Suze5 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hi, I think I've read through the relevant tapering topics. Here's what happened. I've been tapering Lexapro since 8/2017. I got down to .35ml and it seemed to stop working. Eventually ( I called the pharmaceutical company about shelf life and I realized in December I had exposed the liquid to below freezing temps for 24 hours. I had taken the "less potent" Lexapro for 5 weeks. I had withdrawal symptoms ( not as bad as when I tapered off more quickly in 2011) I got a new bottle of Lexapro and am still at .35ml for 2 weeks. I am having anxiety and maybe a total of 4 hours sleep in multiple blocks.per night It was a little worse on the old bottle but I dont understand what's going on? Last night I took .45 ml and will try that for a while. After reading all the tapering topics I'm afraid that even if I went back up (eventually) it wouldn't work. I've been using various otc supplements to try to sleep but the adrenaline at night can't be overcome. I didnt take the Lexapro for anxiety (depression). My counselor says maybe I have anxiety now. I dont want to hear that. Also not in my favor I've been on this drug for 12 years (20 mg since 2011). Thanks for the help and just being there. Lexapro started approximately 2012 Weaned off 10mg Lexapro mid July 2011, completed early September, 2011 Prozac mid- October 2011- January 2012 Escitalopram 20mg January 2012 Escitalopram wean August,1 2017- 20mg July,31,2017,20ml August1,January/28/2018 3 ml, 2/5. 2.3 ml,2/23. 1.175 ml ,2/26. 1 ml, 3/13. .8 ml, 3/21. .75ml,3/22. .6 ml,4/14. .5ml,4/28. .4 ml, 5/5..35ml, 5/10. .25ml ( unintentional),5/11 .35ml, 6/12 .38 ml, 6/26 .45 ml Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted June 27, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) On 6/26/2018 at 1:04 PM, Suze5 said: Hi Suze and welcome to SA. Yes, definitely sounds like withdrawal. Can you create a "signature" that will tell your drug history, for the past 2 years especially, and include the most recent changes? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/12364-please-put-your-withdrawal-history-in-your-signature/ I'm glad you've done some reading around the site. Have you taken a look at: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/53-tips-to-help-sleep-so-many-of-us-have-that-awful-withdrawal-insomnia/ Can you say more about the Lexapro "stopping working" at 3.5ml? Maybe that's when withdrawal really started to kick in. What symptoms did you have at that time? Going back up in dosage is called up-dosing. We usually tell people to hold after going up a tiny amount in dose. Having tapered recently, your system is likely going to be very sensitive to changes. Please read at least the first page of this topic: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/ I don't want to overwhelm you with too much information, so I'll leave it at that for now. Even if you've been on 12 years, there is definitely hope for coming off and healing. I would say the anxiety (tell us more about that too) is directly related to the Lexapro withdrawal--especially if you didn't have strong anxiety before. Edited June 27, 2018 by SkyBlue format 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
Suze5 Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thank you so much Sky Blue! I updated my signature. I accidentally when from .35 to .25 after 5 days. The next night I went back up to .35ml. That seemed to be when it started. It got progressively worse over the course of weeks ( maintaining .35). I had brain zaps, severe anxiety, insomnia, gastrointestinal problems,dizziness,headache , memory problems, and concentration problems. It seemed to be barely working and I feel like the bottle exposed to below freezing (in my car on a road trip) started a downward spiral. Lexapro started approximately 2012 Weaned off 10mg Lexapro mid July 2011, completed early September, 2011 Prozac mid- October 2011- January 2012 Escitalopram 20mg January 2012 Escitalopram wean August,1 2017- 20mg July,31,2017,20ml August1,January/28/2018 3 ml, 2/5. 2.3 ml,2/23. 1.175 ml ,2/26. 1 ml, 3/13. .8 ml, 3/21. .75ml,3/22. .6 ml,4/14. .5ml,4/28. .4 ml, 5/5..35ml, 5/10. .25ml ( unintentional),5/11 .35ml, 6/12 .38 ml, 6/26 .45 ml Link to comment
Suze5 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 I hope someone replies. I am only getting 2 hours sleep per night. I also have severe anxiety now, but the sleep dep is unbearable. It's been 5 days since I raised the Escitalopram to .45ml from .35 ml. I dont know what to do? I'm desperate enough in thinking on going all the way back up. You guys are it for me. I dont have a support system and am lost on what to do and where to turn. No pity party just need some advice and hope, thanks. Lexapro started approximately 2012 Weaned off 10mg Lexapro mid July 2011, completed early September, 2011 Prozac mid- October 2011- January 2012 Escitalopram 20mg January 2012 Escitalopram wean August,1 2017- 20mg July,31,2017,20ml August1,January/28/2018 3 ml, 2/5. 2.3 ml,2/23. 1.175 ml ,2/26. 1 ml, 3/13. .8 ml, 3/21. .75ml,3/22. .6 ml,4/14. .5ml,4/28. .4 ml, 5/5..35ml, 5/10. .25ml ( unintentional),5/11 .35ml, 6/12 .38 ml, 6/26 .45 ml Link to comment
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