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Well the depression and weepiness have been around for awhile but have been intensifying. Oh I forgot to included I'm hot and then I'm cold - back and forth a lot.  I never though about the lowering of Venlafaxine causing the Diazepam to be more sedating. I guess sedation can cause depression? I think  because I did big drops in the beginning of my taper I am more concerned about crashing even though I weaned from 112.5 to 75 slower than the 10%. I see my signature isn't quite right 2/8/19 hmmm. That should be 2/19 so it's been more like 3 weeks. I can keep holding if you think that's best - just didn't want to miss the chance to updose if needed. 

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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8 hours ago, Altostrata said:

It's possible that since you reduced venlafaxine, the diazepam is affecting you more. Venlafaxine can be stimulating, while diazepam is sedating.

 

This is an excellent point. 

 

8 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

I see my signature isn't quite right 2/8/19 hmmm. That should be 2/19 so it's been more like 3 weeks. I can keep holding if you think that's best - just didn't want to miss the chance to updose if needed. 

 

Did you feel better at 77 MG venlafaxine (where you were 3 weeks ago)? 

 

This is where it can get tricky.  I don't want to interfere with Alto and the mods more familiar with Venlafaxine who are guiding your antidepressant taper, but after you stabilize the AD, you may want to make a small reduction of one of your day-time benzo doses if the sedation is causing an unbearable amount of depression. Valium can be quite sedating and as Alto posted, as you lower your stimulating drug, the sedating drug is affecting you more. 

 

 

 

 

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I would stick with 75mg venlafaxine for another few weeks. If it's a withdrawal symptom, it may dissipate. Since you're sleeping, I wouldn't updose.

 

(The sedation indicates too much diazepam.)

 

Please keep daily notes, they may better indicate if you're having a reaction to one of your drugs.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Thanks for reply. I am still using diphendramine at night, too, to sleep. But I have been taking that for years.  I'm so scared about crashing @Alto because I didn't wean slowly in the beginning. I don't want to become a pain in the butt person bugging you all the time either. If I decided to updose and I'm not at the moment how much would you recommend I go up?

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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Okay @Alto, @Shep - I have been on 75mg Venlafaxine for over a month now and my depression and crying is getting worse. I think I should updose the Venlafaxine. In the past whenever an AD pooped out I became depressed and weepy. I saw my counsellor last week and he was very upset with me because he said I was very depressed and needed more of my AD which of course we know they will say that but I am so miserable. IDK - how much could I try, Alto. I was thinking 5mg? I can tell you how every day goes

9:00 to 9:30 - drag myself out of bed

9:30 to 10:00 - take 2.5 mg diazepam, fish oil and chelated magnesium

11:30 to noon - anxiety and weepiness starts up

Noon - eat lunch, 2.5 mg. diazepam, Vitamin D, C, B and Turmeric

Afternoon - feel weepy - oftentimes cry; unmotivated; feel hot and then cold

6:00pm - supper, 75 mg. Venlafaxine, fish oil, chelated magnesium

7:00pm - 2.5 mg Diazepam

8:00 - 50 mg diphendramine

Usually feel somewhat better and go to bed 11:30

 

I know I am taking two morning doses of Diazepam close together but that seems to help a little more than when I try to hold out.

 

Thanks for you input.

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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It looks to me like you are experiencing an adverse effect of diazepam. Depression is a common side effect of benzos.

 

As I noted above, the excessive sedation indicates you're taking too much diazepam.

 

It's very possible that since the 1980s, your "mood disorder" has been caused by the benzos you've been taking continuously. You are physiologically and psychologically dependent on benzos.

 

I'm sorry, I cannot recommend increasing an antidepressant to treat a benzo adverse effect. For that, you'll have to consult a doctor.

 

We would advise tapering the benzo instead. @Shep

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Okay, thanks for replying. I thought the site recommended weaning off ADs and Benzos second but maybe what you are saying is wean down some on the benzo and then go back to AD. Or I can just wait and see what Shep says. There's no way I can discuss this with my doctor. He's the one who put me on 225 mg. of Venlafaxine and 30 mg. of Vallium daily 3 years ago when my Sertaline had pooped out. Then when I told him I wanted to trying weaning off Venlafaxine he said "okay" drop by 75mg. and I said why not 37.5mg. Anyway you know how the psyche doctors are. I'll see what Shep says. Thanks again.

 

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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If you are having an adverse effect from a benzo, it doesn't make any sense to add to your problems by increasing or decreasing the antidepressant.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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On 12/21/2018 at 8:48 PM, WantoffVen said:

9:00pm - 25 mg diphenydramine

 

17 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

8:00 - 50 mg diphendramine

 

You have 25 - 50 MG diphenhydramine listed in your signature, but you were taking 25 MG most consistently when you were here in December and posting in your benzo thread. 

 

Are you now taking 50 MG consistently? This could be too high a dose and causing the depression type symptoms during the day. 

 

On 12/11/2018 at 10:45 AM, WantoffVen said:

I drink frequently but only one drink.

 

This is another issue we were discussing back then. Is alcohol still a factor? 

 

I hate to keep harping on this, but you've never answered this question. You are taking a lot of drugs that dampen down the nervous system - diphenhydramine, alcohol, and valium. These are all depressants and can cause the weepiness, as well as upticks in anxiety from rebound symptoms. 

 

17 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

I know I am taking two morning doses of Diazepam close together but that seems to help a little more than when I try to hold out.

 

What do you mean by "helping"? 

 

18 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

9:30 to 10:00 - take 2.5 mg diazepam, fish oil and chelated magnesium

11:30 to noon - anxiety and weepiness starts up

Noon - eat lunch, 2.5 mg. diazepam, Vitamin D, C, B and Turmeric

Afternoon - feel weepy - oftentimes cry; unmotivated; feel hot and then cold

 

It looks like the diazepam is making you worse, not helping.

 

Please give us more information about what you mean by "helping". I ordinarily would suggest reducing the daytime benzo for anyone suffering from fatigue and weepiness, but if the diazepam is truly helping, then it may be best to work on reducing the diphenhydramine. 

 

 

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Thank you, @Shep. I wake up a little anxious and then after I'm up the depression comes on. I take the first 2.5mg Diazepam around 9:30. Then normally more weepiness and anxiety kicks in a couple hours later. If I take a Diazepam then I feel less weepy and anxious. I will go back to 25mg  diphenhydramine. I have curtailed drinking to only occasionally. Do you want me to post on the benzo side now?

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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Well I may have spoken too soon. I think the second Diazepam isn't working like it was. Today I am so full of anxiety and I'm shakey. How do you know some of this isn't antidepressant discontinuance? I guess your years of experience. It's just I feel like I always did when an AD pooped out on me. I think I have changed ADs 4 times over the years so I've not been on tons of them like so many folks have. Oh well, I did NOT want to become a pest. Sorry.

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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19 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

I have curtailed drinking to only occasionally.

 

I would stop completely until you are 100% healed from this. Alcohol can cause waves that get conflated with withdrawal symptoms. We have so little control over what happens to our mind/body during withdrawal, but this is one area where we do have control.

 

We do have members dealing with both the craving and the dependency form of addiction, so if you're battling an alcohol problem, please focus on getting help with that.

 

18 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

Well I may have spoken too soon. I think the second Diazepam isn't working like it was. Today I am so full of anxiety and I'm shakey. How do you know some of this isn't antidepressant discontinuance? I guess your years of experience. It's just I feel like I always did when an AD pooped out on me.

 

Please read this section of Brassmonkey's thread Are We There Yet?

 

Tachyphylaxis or As It’s Lovingly Known “Poopout”

 

If the drug has pooped out, then it's likely you are feeling even more sedation from the benzo and the increased diphenhydramine. So regardless if it's poopout or if it's from your last AD reduction, making a reduction of the sedating drugs may help with the feelings of depression and weepiness. 

 

This is a waves and windows process, which makes the drugs seem to work at times and to ramp up symptoms at times. 

 

But the more you can stay consistent with your doses, avoid alcohol, eat clean and healthy, and avoid stressful situations, the better you'll feel in the long run. 

 

Let us know how you do over the coming days with the decreased diphenhydramine. It may take a number of days for your nervous system to settle down. If you've been at 50 MG for a long time, you may want to taper down instead of abruptly reducing back to 25 MG. 

 

 

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The tapering calculator I have used in the past is messed up. All the cells have #Ref in them. Can anyone fix the calculator and let me know? The title just says Taper and you can put in the date, dosage, number of days and % of reduction. Thank you.

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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Wantoff, you had made a new thread over in the Tapering section with your last post, so I moved it to here in your thread. Please continue to ask questions here.

 

You likely accidentally removed or changed one of the formulas. That's what creates the #Ref sign.

 

Please link us to the spreadsheet you are using so we can fix the formula. 

 

 

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I don't know how to link it. I go to the schedule which I have in my Favorites and click copy on the url but when I bring it here nothing happens when I click paste @Chessie. help

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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Wantoff, are you trying to link to Google Sheets or are you trying to attach a spreadsheet?

 

Also, what kind of device are you working on? 

 

 

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Says google.doc/spreadsheets and I am using a laptop.

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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23 hours ago, WantoffVen said:

Says google.doc/spreadsheets and I am using a laptop.

 

Looks like you're using Google Sheets. 

 

You won't be able to post the URL for this - you will need to "share" the spreadsheet. To do this: 

 

1. Go to your spreadsheet and click on the Share button located in the upper right of your computer screen.

2. In the popup box, click on "get sharable link".

3. If you want us to fix it for you, in the drop down list, click on "anyone with a link can edit". 

4. Click on the Copy Link button.

5. Come back to your thread and paste the link here. 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Share button on the spreadsheet is gray and says "anyone with a link can edit" but there is no copy click button. If someone asked you how to figure their taper, which spreadsheet would you suggest to them? That's all I need is a spreadsheet to use. This one was sent to me by someone on here to begin with. Maybe you'll find it that way or can send me another one? I'm very sorry. I am a little bit better since dropping my diphendramine to 25mg at night but I'm still feeling some anxiety. 

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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Okay I figured out I had to sign into Google - duh. I clicked anyone with a link can edit, clicked on copy click and when I come here and left click and click on paste nothing happens.

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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And it even says it has been copied to the clipboard. I don't remember what to do with a clipboard?

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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2 minutes ago, WantoffVen said:

And it even says it has been copied to the clipboard. I don't remember what to do with a clipboard?

 

That just means you've copied it. No need to worry about the clipboard. Once it's copied, simply paste the link here in your thread. 

 

If you are on a PC:

 

  • To paste, press and hold down Control and then press V.

 

If you are on a Mac:

 

  • To paste, press and hold down Command and then press V.

 

 

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When I click paste nothing happens. Ctrl-V nothing happens. I am so sorry. I know how to copy and paste. I thought there was a trick here. But I have also noticed that I constantly have to sign in when I come to this site now. Maybe it's me. Anyway as I said before just send me a link to a taper spreadsheet you would recommend to use and maybe I can go from there or otherwise thanks for you help.

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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Okay if you click on the link for spreadsheets the very first one it pulls up is the one that's messed up. Did you click on the link?

Early 1980s 2 mg. vallium prn; Mid-1990s Paxil and 2mg. vallium prn; Somewhere in there Buspar

Early 2000s Sertaline 50 mg. and .25mg Xanax prn 

2008 Sertaline 50 mg but Xanax was increased to .5mg 6 times a day 

2015 Sertaline increased to 100mg. 2 mg. vallium prn and Wellburtrin (only on a few days)

April 2016 Venlafaxine XR 225mg with 50 mg. Zolft  and 10 mg. Vallium 3 times a day as needed

Fall 2017 Venlafaxine upped to 300 mg - 5 mg. Vallium 3 times a day prn; Jan. 2018 Venlafaxine 225mg w/Vallium

April 2018 weaned  to 187.50mg, 150mg, 112.5 mg at 4 to 5 week intervals vallium 3 times a day prn

July 2018 112.5 mg ; July 2018 started SA's 10% guideline w/ 2.5 vallium prn; lost notes  dropped to 89 mg by 10/22; 89 mg 10/29; 10/6 86 mg, 10/13 83 mg; 10/20 - 11/2 updosed to 89mg; 11/3 86 mg; 11/17 80 mg. 11/24 77mg - 12/20 80mg 1/ 20 77 mg venlafaxine; 2/19 75 mg Ven  still taking vallium 2.5 mg morning, after and evening

Simvastatin 40mg. daily with supplements: Magnesium, Omega Fatty Oils, Vitamin D3, Turmeric, Magnesium, 25 mg. to 50 mg. diphendramine for sleep

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I see what you're referring to - someone has altered the formula in that first tab. I tried to correct it, but it says I don't have permission to edit it. I'll report it and see if we can get that fixed.

 

There's a copy of it in another tab. Look down at the bottom of your screen and you'll see Copy of Standard 2. Click on that tab and see if that spreadsheet will work for you. 
 

 

 

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Hi, @WantoffVen,

long time passed since You last update, how are You doing?

 

Wishing You a lifelong window!

V.

Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD.

Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR

Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg)

Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off

Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg

Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash,

Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg

01Jan24-7,5mg

MAR24

Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg 

Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse.

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