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Hi, I am new here and recently finished a Valium taper.  I was also on a low dose of Remeron which I started a little less than a year ago.

 

Last week we went camping and I forgot to take my Remeron for two nights.  I thought because I felt ok maybe I didn’t need it anymore...fast forward to the last week and it’s horrible!  I am soooo sick.  Headaches, dizziness, nausea, stomach issues, hot flashes.

 

I am willing to reinstate to not feel sick and try a taper once stabilized.  I am confused on how to do that as I take 1.875 mgs and the pill already falls apart.

 

Also, how do I reinstate and could it help?

 

Im not sure I did everything right on my intro and signature page???

 

Thank you— Rach

 

 

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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  • ChessieCat changed the title to Rhernan:Cold turkeyed low dose Remeron ... reinstate??

Hi, I am new here and just finished a 2-1/2 year Valium taper about a month ago.  During my V taper I was also prescribed Remeron to help with severe weight loss, nausea, and insomnia.

 

I have been taking 1.875 mg’s of Remeron nightly for a little less than a year.  About a week ago we went out of town and I forgot to take my Remeron.  I felt good and mistakenly decided maybe I didn’t need it.

 

Approx. 4-5 day later I became ill again (withdrawal symptoms) and have been sick since.  I tried taking the Remeron again 3 nights ago at the same dose but had a bad reaction.  I’m not sure if I should cut it even more and try again or just discontinue and hope I feel better.

 

Im pretty miserable and have two young kids to take care of so reinstatement isn’t a problem, just don’t know if I should try again.

 

thanks!

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.
 

 

When you CT'd the Remeron, your system became destabilized.  This is why, when you tried to reinstate 4-5 days later at the same 1.875mg, you had a bad reaction.  We recommend reinstating at a much lower dose than your last dose.  Please read:

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms. -- at least the first page of the topic

 

You could try to tough it out, but there's no telling how long it would take for you to regain homeostasis.  Reinstatement doesn't always work but it is the only method to reduce withdrawal symptoms.  Your situation is complicated by your just having finished your Valium taper.  We recommend waiting several months after tapering one drug before tapering another.

 

You should consider reinstating perhaps .5mg of Remeron and see how that helps.  

 
It takes about 4 days for a dose change to get to full state in the blood and a bit longer for it to register in the brain.  Please Keep Notes on Paper so that we can tell updosing is working.
 
The following link explains how to get microdoses of Remeron.
 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current Valium dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of May 17: 10.5mg 

Taper is 86% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Gridley, thank you so much for responding...I accidentally told my story twice and was a bit confused how this site worked.

 

I edited my profile to show my taper and prescription history and I had previously read the reinstating and stabilizing section as well.

 

I also have a written journal that I have kept from the beginning of my whole benzo journey so that won’t be a problem.

 

I will now read the section about how to get micrograms of Remeron and get back to you.  I’m really scared to try Remeron again due to the reaction I had, but reading about reinstating it makes sense that I had it.  

 

Again, thank you for responding and I’ll keep you posted.

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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Please don't forget to do your drug signature.


 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current Valium dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of May 17: 10.5mg 

Taper is 86% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Ok, updated my signature...also am trying to get a compound made to reinstate at .5 mg’s, but might try half of 1.875 tonight.  I’m pretty sick and desperate.

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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Hang in there : ) i know exactly what your going through, its really tough 

3.5 years ago started on 45 mg efixor for 6 months then 

went onto Lexipro 10mg then up to 45mg

then mertazipine 15mg up to 30mg then 45mg, have dropped to 30mg and thats what im on now. 

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So I tried a small amount of Remeron last night as I was soooo sick.  I don’t have any tools other than my pill cutter and the prescription to I tried to half my 1.875 mg cut.  It fell apart so I just took what I thought equaled half.

 

It did help alleviate the intensity of wds so I will stick to taking it for awhile.

 

My doctor also got back to me and is willing to order smaller dosage pills and a compound to help me taper when I’m ready.

 

How soon should I notice stabilization or some type of homeostasis.  I know we are all so different, but is 4-5 days a good general guideline?

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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The fact that you're feeling better is a good sign.  As I wrote earlier, it takes 4 doses for a dose change to get to full state in the blood and a bit longer for it to register in the brain.

This is not the same thing as homeostasis or stabilization, where you're feeling pretty much the same every day (not great but okay) without large swings in symptoms.  Unfortunately, there's no way to predict when this will happen.  Everyone is different.

 

It's very good that you're doctor is cooperative about giving you the smaller doses.  

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current Valium dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of May 17: 10.5mg 

Taper is 86% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Great, I assumed it would take a few days (or more) to even out.  Feel pretty sedated today but a prescription for a lower dose is already waiting for me and I’m hoping it will be easier to get a more consistent dose as I’ll be able to cut the pills more evenly.

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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Hi, I have been tapering very slowly over the last 2 years. I recently got down to .35 mg’s and have been slammed with withdrawal!  No sleep in a week, horrible nausea, dizziness, shaking, heart palps.  I updosed last night to .56 mg’s…still no sleep, very shaky and still very sick.  Do you think I’m having a bad reaction or should I wait this out?  Feels like it literally did nothing but make me sick.

 

anyone please help.

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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I know I’ve posted already, but I’m not sure where I’m supposed to be.  Lol

 

i was one here about a year ago, or more, and have been doing a super slow taper off Mirtazepine.  I was on around .40 and tapered to a little below .35.  Then out of no where withdrawals hit and hit hard!  I’m not sleeping at ALL, like literally zero sleep.  I have nausea, headaches, head pressure, and shakiness in my body.  I updosed last night to .56 mg’s but don’t know if this is okay.

 

I really need some advice and help with sleep!  It’s slowly making me crazy!

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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Please help!  I think I’m now having an adverse reaction to mirt.  I’ve been only needed .40 mg’s and went down to .30 too quickly.  I updosed 2 night ago and seem to be experiencing adverse reactions all nigh long.

 

can I take 1/2 my dose earlier in the evening and the other 1/2 before bed and see if that helps, and maybe drop down fo .35 mg’s.

 

I feel like all this up and down isn’t good but I’m at a loss on what to do?

 

Pleasehelp.

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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Hello, @Rhernan, I merged all your new posts with your Introductions topic.

 

9 hours ago, Rhernan said:

I updosed 2 night ago and seem to be experiencing adverse reactions all nigh long.

 

What is this adverse reaction? At what time o'clock does it start? What times o'clock do you take your drugs, with their dosages?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Okay, so I updosed 2 nights ago from .35 to .54 mgs as withdrawal hit hard.  I was, and am not sleeping at all.  
 

I take .25 mgs in capsule form that is compounded and then the rest in liquid compounded form.  I take them before bed and about 30min to an 2 hours later I can feel the drug go through my body, me heart beats fast, I get jolted awake, dizzy, nauseated, diarrhea, shaking & RLS type symptoms.  This lasts all night.

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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So I take it between 8:30 and 9:30pm

 

and usually have a reaction around 10:30/11:00 pm

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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I’m also experiencing akesthesis

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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Hello, anyone here to help!  I need help!  What should I do?

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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My doctor said to go to .5 (1/2 mg) and stabilize on that dose? Does this sound good?

- Prescribed Xanax for 2 weeks after knee surgery in 2016 (reaction to anesthesia)

- cold turkeyed Xanax and was in hospital then bedridden

-  Found Ashton Manuel and crossed over to 15 mg’s Valium

- Tapering off Valium with pills and compound 2016-2018

-  Prescribed Remeron nightly in July 2017 for nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss and mood (1.875 mg’s)

-  Finished Valium taper July 2018

- on mirt from 2017-2021 slowly tapering

- got down to .25 and got very ill

-doctor upsets me to .50 and I’m having an adverse reaction, complexity destabilized

 

 

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@RhernanThat looks like an adverse reaction from the drug. Did this start when you introduced the liquid? When did you introduce the liquid?

 

I would not increase your dose! You might want to go back to the 0.25 mgs in capsule form that is compounded.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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