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manymoretodays

Oh Leo1983,

 

I'm sorry for your struggling now.  Ugh. 

 

The windows and waves pattern of stabilization

 

Waves and Windows in SSRI withdrawal

 

These ^ might help a bit.  Are you getting through the work day and family time okay?  And go have a look see at some of the non-drug coping..........or do your music therapy.   Just listen to some of those guided meditations.  Distract somewhat as you are able.   Whatever you can hone up on now will be well worth it for the duration.

 

Sending my best.  Think of it in terms of healing if you can.......that some major reconstruction is going on right now, in terms of healing.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

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Leo1983

Does this go away Many im sick as a chip now. Av been told this can take a year minimum. Bwah!

 

I have read all that and understand im just getting frustrated.

 

Thanks Many

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Leo1983

Helloooo......

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Leo1983

Struggling. Poor sleep and work again today. Just feel rubbish. Im getting depressed with it.

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Asta

We gotta find the optimism and strength, although very difficult, though, and it looks like it will never end. We recovered from a dreadful abstinence. Only I do not understand how this can be legally torture people.

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Asta

Just would like more success stories, wilt is not for people who are recovering more quickly?

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Leo1983

Is there a moderator with advice please?

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Leo1983

Alostrata any advice would be good.

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manymoretodays
On 9/11/2018 at 12:29 PM, Leo1983 said:

Does this go away Many im sick as a chip now. Av been told this can take a year minimum. Bwah!

 

I have read all that and understand im just getting frustrated.

 

Thanks Many

 

I'm sorry it's so tough right now Leo.  You'll get a window soon I hope.  Meantime, the best thing you can do now is work hard on finding coping skills for your situation.

 

This will link you to the first post in non-drug coping, just look at the explanation of what is going on now, and then go down the list and hopefully you can find something in the indexed list to help:  non-drug coping with emotional symptoms, post #1

Even though it says emotional symptoms, many of them are related to your CNS and especially ANS(autonomic nervous system) being off right now

 

And then some more on sleep:  Tips to help sleep, that awful W/D insomnia

Sleep is a good and so important for you to try and get some good sleep now.

 

You could also try something out of the basic supplement toolkit.  The 2 supplements that we recommend are:

King of Supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids(fish oil)

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

Best to just try one at a time and go slowly.

Often in W/D sensitivities can be higher to different substances.......... so go slow and keep some kind of records or notes for yourself so you can identify what might be causing what.

 

I hope that helps somewhat.  Keep us all updated Leo. 

And oh........success stories, recovery from withdrawal

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

 

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Asta

Very few success stories, just as little recovery from the W/D? Or just people not returning here?

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Leo1983

Hi guys.

 

Im 13 weeks off all drugs after 2 years of on and off all SSRIs.

 

Are these all normal still?

 

1. Morning anxiety.

2. Clouded thinking.

3. Detached.

4. Afraid to see people you once would have just walked up and chatted too? Its even my own parents and my friends. Is it just the anxiety?.

5. Headaches.

 

Thanks

 

Lee

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manny03
On 9/16/2018 at 2:20 AM, Leo1983 said:

Hi guys.

 

Im 13 weeks off all drugs after 2 years of on and off all SSRIs.

 

Are these all normal still?

 

1. Morning anxiety.

2. Clouded thinking.

3. Detached.

4. Afraid to see people you once would have just walked up and chatted too? Its even my own parents and my friends. Is it just the anxiety?.

5. Headaches.

 

Thanks

 

Lee

Lee, 

 

Look back at our chats, besides #4, these were the same symptoms I was experiencing a few weeks back, still am to be honest though with less frequency since its swapping to other symptoms. Just hold on, man. 

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SkyBlue
On 9/16/2018 at 4:20 AM, Leo1983 said:

Im 13 weeks off all drugs after 2 years of on and off all SSRIs.

 

Are these all normal still?

 

1. Morning anxiety.

2. Clouded thinking.

3. Detached.

4. Afraid to see people you once would have just walked up and chatted too? Its even my own parents and my friends. Is it just the anxiety?.

5. Headaches.

 

Hi L,

Yes, those are still very, very normal. These should all improve with time.

 

Have you seen the thread on morning cortisol spikes? That is helpful in explaining that awful morning anxiety, and some things to try: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17471-waking-with-panic-or-anxiety-managing-cortisol-spikes/

 

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Leo1983

@skyblue.

 

Hi.

 

Hope your well.

 

Dont get me wrong the morning anxiety is not good, but i manage it. I just ping out of bed and im away. I normally take the dogs out, but i just feel so strange like im in my own bubble, Lee's world. Its pretty crap.

 

The other stuff i can manage no problem. Headaches etc.

 

What makes me anxious when i see people and when i visit family is the simple fact that im aware im not myself. I know im in a bubble and that im not myself. So it makes me anxious during interactions.

 

Just wish it would hurry up and go away.

I still in a way feel like i did on the tablets, just not as bad.

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@SkyBlue

 

Hi

 

Is my last post normal stuff also?

 

Do you know a timeline that MOST people start to turn a corner? As in start to talk about symptoms less.

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ChessieCat

 

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Leo1983

Thanks.

 

Its a disgrace.

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TheWayBack

Leo

 

Seeing what you have been through and the severity of what I perceive you are experiencing, I reckon you will be much better in a few months.

 

If you go check most facebook groups that are full of people withdrawing from escitalopram, you will see that the timeline is for most 1-4 months. We, the ones that are here for a long time in this forum, are a minority. We suffer much longer. You could be very well doing much better in a few weeks from now.

 

But whatever timeframe you are looking at -  read 'Claire Weekes' - 'Hope and Help for your nerves' to learn to cope with anxiety. It will be of tremendous importance now and later in life. Accept the state you are in for now, and try to learn as much as possible from it. Let this rocky patch in life learn you something about yourself. (except the obvious, don't blindly trust doctors). Start meditation (Headspace App on your phone) and keep yourself busy with mundane tasks as much as possible.

 

You will be stronger when this is over, I promise you that. Occupy yourself for the remainder with the excellent information in the Coping methods threads.

 

Coping methods (repost from ChessieCat, because of its importance)

Don't feel sorry for yourself and accept the state you are in for now. This is no easy feat, but it's crucial. See the links in ChessieCat's post.

 

THIS SHALL PASS TOO. In the meantime, make yourself stronger.

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Leo1983

@TheWayBack

 

Wow. What great advice. Are you a mod?

 

I do try my bloody best daily, but sometimes my mind plays tricks due to the way i feel. Its daily torture at times.

 

I just remember the old me and actually i was better then than before these sh*tty meds.

 

Your advice was great

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TheWayBack

I don't know if your reply was sarcastic, difficult to say sometimes. Of course you felt better before meds! I don't doubt that for a second. And I don't think for a second that it isn't extremely hard.

 

But the tricks your mind plays on yourself is a excellent learning opportunity. There won't be a more difficult time in your life than this most likely. If you learn to cope with this the right way, you will be virtually indestructible in the future for everything that will cross your path.

 

Don't think too much about the good past, what's done is done. Only look in the now and how you will manage these days, weeks or months. It will get better.

 

Oh, and I'm no mod. My opinions are my own and are based on my own experience.

 

You will have the power each day to make it to the night. You don't have the power today to make it tomorrow and the day after. But tomorrow you will have the power to make it through tomorrow.

 

Again, learn as much coping tools as possible. And buy the ebook from Claire Weekes on your phone and start reading my friend. You will be so strong after this.

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Altostrata

TheWayBack is most certainly not a mod. The opinions he states are his own and not endorsed by the staff.

 

We don't know how long your symptoms will last, Leo. All we can do is tell you to expect improvement that is very gradual and very frustrating.

 

I hope you do recover sooner rather than later. An expectation of recovery within a few months may be unrealistic and cause you undue distress should it not come about.

 

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Leo1983

No i think your advice was great. Thanks.

 

 

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@Altostrata

 

Thanks. I guess its just a day at a time. Its by far the worst experience.

 

At what point do you say this anxiety is ME? This mood is ME? This is ME?

 

I was not this bad before meds.

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Leo1983

Also when does the lethergy go. I had thia on tablets big time, it has got better.

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I can manage on my days off work. There still not great but i manage at my own pace and comfort.

 

I start work today again for 3 days and just feel panicked. Only because i dont feel my self and dont want ppl to think whats up with him.

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@ChessieCat

 

Thanks. That answers that. I never had these symptoms prior to meds. So i guess thats it.

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@Altostrata

 

Can i ask if i started meds for anxiety at work ONLY. Then became more and more unwell over a year and a half of on and off drugging which i think now was because of withdrawal, instead of me been loopy.

 

Then now that i have eventually stopped drugs that never helped anyways but feel all these symptoms i never ever had is it sounding more withdrawal?

 

Dizzy

Anxiety at all times

Balance

Nausea

Frozen brain feeling.

Headaches.

 

The drugs never helped so i cant see the point going back to them i just wish this feeling would pass.

 

Its even harder on work days as i feel more pressure to put a front on.

 

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Leo1983

Also depression. I never had depression ever until i started Lexapro. Once i stopped Lexapro the low mood persisits.

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ChessieCat
1 hour ago, Leo1983 said:

Can i ask if i started meds for anxiety at work ONLY.

 

Please clarify this comment.  It doesn't make any sense, so it is difficult to respond to.  Thank you.

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I only was ever anxious when inwas at work doing meeting etc. My personal life was fine.

 

I took tablets to hopefully make me perform better at work. Then i turned to a zombie. Then i came off felt awful. Then back on summit else and this carried on for a year and a half. Until i found out abt withdrawal.

 

Im asking do my symptoms sound like withdrawal.

 

As i was only ever anxious at work and NEVER depressed to the level i am now.

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Leo1983

I feel all the symptoms now daily and thats when i am at work and on my days off.

 

The symptoms i mention i never had before Lexapro mainly.

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ChessieCat

Have you read the links we have given you?  If not, please go back to the beginning of your topic and work your way through them.

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Leo1983

Yeh the links dont answer my question as such they are generic. I have asked about a specific situation.

 

It sounds to me like withdrawal from what a read.

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ChessieCat

What do you mean by generic?

 

What is your specific question/s?

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