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indigo

Before I went on Prozac I used pot to ease stress from PTSD. It worked well but I wasn't getting much done so I stopped using it.

Prozac felt great for awhile. I became super functional. No PTSD.  But after a number of years I realized it was blunting my creativity.

(I'm a painter) so I started to taper off it.Tapering  withdrawal was manageable until I got to very low dose then all hell broke loose.

I now have a Medical Marujuana verification card for legal use of cannabis to treat severe withdrawal symptoms from Prozac. Kind of ironic.

I haven't actually used it yet because I feel as if I should  be keeping track of my withdrawal symptoms to judge the rate of my tapering.

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antidepressantsNoMore

Pot may help those going through chemotherapy, degenerative dieases, neurological dieases but it has a lot of downsides. Now, not everyone who smokes pot experiences the negative side-effects but I did. Pot CAN most def. cause paranoia and anxiety especially for those who suffer from anxiety disorders. You couldn't pay me to touch that crap ever again.

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InvisibleUnless

weed helps me with withdrawal sometimes (and i was on benzos, ADs, AAPs, etc).  my body is not always able to handle it, and ive partaken of much smaller portions at much fewer intervals the past many years.  ive used it with different levels of success for intractable muscle dystonia, neurological upset, and other often incapacitating elements.

 

here is a short 'factoid' response list from academic research papers (i wrote for college back in the day), independent research, and personal experience:

 

-RE-legalization is about money, just like the initial, belated illegalization was about money.  industry, taxation, and control of assets (like guns and contributions to gang coffers that could go elsewhere), and everything involved in political campaigning and officiating are the push behind drug proscription and permission.  im sure this sounds familiar to people facing severe pharmaceutical withdrawal.

 

-weed has properties that both help alleviate psych disorders AND can agitate them.  cannabis is a natural antipsychotic, anxiolytic, and antidepressant, however weedflower is a highly varied collection of chemicals and achieving appropriate and effective doses for particular problems is a matter of professional breeding and studied discussion rather than grabbing a dimebag on your local streetcorner.  there have been no proven causal effects between adult marijuana use and the development of mental illness, however many users report weed kicking up a storm for their bipolar/schizo-whateveritmaybe, or other issues, and data suggests that smoking may provoke earlier incidents of already developing or to-be-developing mental illness diagnoses.  i have had a prescription for several years now for depression and anxiety, and have known many individuals that find it to help with such psych conditions, but there is no panacea in medicine, and no treatment that works or is safe for everyone.  and, of course, marijuana can be dangerous or growth-inhibiting in pre-mature individuals, just like any other psychotropic compounds (psych meds, some painkillers, etc), and regular use would most likely be irresponsible at best.

 

its much like how weed has cancer fighting abilities, but many methods of dosing can entail carcinogenic risks---burning plant or rolling paper/blunt wraps, for instance (which generally does not precipitate the same degree of damage or danger as cigarette or tobacco smoking because active compounds from the cannabis are contained within the smoke and are administered directly to the lungs for local as well as systemic affect).  marijuana is a potent herb and should be treated with the respect and careful specificity of other medicative psychoactive compounds.

 

-the positive benefits are not limited to the CBD, and oftentimes the THC, CBD, and other compounds work together in your body to create the most helpful constellation of beneficial effects.  however, a general principle is that CBD is often the most effective primary ingredient for many pain and inflammation issues, and THC (especially high-THC, low-CBD strains) is often the riskier ingredient when it comes to agitating pre-extant conditions that are sensitive to psychotropic stimulation (including alcohol, meds, etc).

 

-mixing weed with alcohol, and especially mixing weed with psych meds, can be dangerous!  weed can combine with medications like antidepressants to set off serotonin storm, and, like any of these medications, even taking it on its own does not guarantee safety.  everyone has different physiology and drug-reactiveness, and there are risks and benefits just like any other food, herb, or medication.  its not for everyone, and should not be treated as if it can be.

 

 

as for people cautious about literature mentioning receptor binding behavior...i think its good youve learned from your negative experiences with the medical establishment and know enough about terminology to see something potentially dangerous.  however, receptor binding is how our brain works, and everything we eat, breathe, and interact with changes what chemicals are available and how our brain chooses to handle those resources.  im not trying to say eating a piece of ham is the same as toking a joint, but the point is that our existence as humans is predicated on marinating our brains in chemicals, and trying to find the most productive balances through proper diet, activity, and ritual.  one hugely important factor here is internal perception---you can get better from mere meditation when people who take ADs or smoke weed or go through psychotherapy may or may not succeed, and the variable mental environment shapes how studies of compounds are reported on, run, and carried out in interpretation.

 

so, i feel we can agree that studies cant make a drug or decision safe or unsafe, and we ourselves are the most knowledgeable of our workings and responsible for our own wellbeing, even when corporations and governments try to get us to relinquish increasing amounts of that control.  weed is not good for everyone, and anyone with bad medication history or withdrawal should be especially skeptical and cautious.  fearing receptor binding action as an independent phenomenon is not, ultimately, a coherent response, but the degree of action, particularity of targeting, preferential operation, etc are all meaningful things to consider when wondering if a food or supplement or physical experience could potentially be dangerous.

 

please consult professional and learned sources (hopefully interactive ones) before deciding if weed could be helpful for your own set of issues.  someone being a doctor (even a MMJ-prescribing doctor) or working at a high end dispensary does not necessarily make them qualified or helpful!  some of them can be, and some are most decidedly not.  the internet is a good ground-level research platform, but sometimes nuances or specifics of recommendation need to come from someone who can know your personal history and particularities.  given the power and steep learning curve for medical administration of weed, i personally think it should be low on the list of things to try for people who are adequately managing their withdrawal already or are not so desperate that they need immediate and significant assistance.

 

 

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a few interesting tidbits off the top of my head, not particularly relevant to overall issues herein discussed, but good context:

 

-there are still patients receiving federal weed in america

-initial studies into the legalization in colorado reflect a decline in both relative and gross mortality when viewing statistics of public behavior like traffic accidents

-government efforts to poison and otherwise compromise drug cash crops abroad, including marijuana, are resulting in serious health problems for individuals---quite arguably more disease and death than the free use of marijuana

-countries legalizing or decriminalizing weed (and other far more potent drugs, even) generally see a correlating decline in non-drug criminal behavior, incarcerations, and social costs

-criminalization of drug activity in america is one of the primary causal factors behind the current continuing spread of several deadly and/or debilitating diseases like AIDS, and is the #1 factor in some metropolitan areas

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Lexy

I told my doctor I use medical marijuana to ease wds. He said as long as I didn't have any negative effects coming from it then it's ok.

The cannabis is the only things that helps me get out of dark intrusive thoughts. It also helps with body aches and anxiety wds.

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sky68

Guess MJ works for some, and does not so for others.

I used to blow one a day, also in my depressive period, which eased my stress and found it beneficial.

 

But then all of a sudden this totally changed over to severe anxiety and panic attacks. And I am sure it was because of the MJ. So I quit totally (about half way in my tapering period).

 

What does make me feel quite a bit more relaxing, and taking the tension away, is using CBD oil. It has almost no THC in it, and is not psychoactive by itself. Just a few drops under my tongue when I go to bed, I feel quite an improvement of my anxiety levels that had built up during the day.

 

Don't underestimate the power of MJ, in both positive and negative way!

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sky68

I'd like to add that I do not advocate the use of MJ, CBD or whatever. Please don't take the above as a suggestion or advice.

These are only my experiences, that's all.

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oskcajga

I had a HORRIFIC reaction to marijuana about a year ago that set me back over a year.  I wouldn't recommend anyone try marijuana unless you can ensure a SMALL dose and work your way up carefully.  Recreational smoking with friends can be EXTREMELY dangerous for hypersensitive withdrawal sufferers.  Seriously folks, this topic is nice and all, but my life was destroyed by smoking pot during withdrawals.  The DP/DR just got like 5X worse and it destroyed my nervous system.  Four hits.

 

So if you're thinking about smoking pot, maybe you can read my horror story on the subject (http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8788-oskcajga-partial-recovery-ssrisnri-withdrawal-and-adverse-reaction/)

 

Here's my prediction:  1)  It might work for you, 2) it might not do anything, or 3) it might ruin your life.   In my case, I tried marijuana 2X during withdrawal, I got the #1 response the first time and the #3 response the second time.  Whoops.  

 

I couldn't possibly recommend anything LESS than marijuana for withdrawal (unless you can do VERY small doses and see how it works).  I would never recommend bong hits or high doses of the stuff.  Even small doses combined with other medications you may be taking can mess up your central nervous system very well.

 

"legalize marijuana" is a nice theme, and it's popular these days, but for folks with hypersensitivity marijuana can spell absolute disaster unless very carefully taken.

 

Note, if you insist in smoking, I'd have someone who knows you that can cut you off once you stop.  The DP/DR effects of marijuana can make it hard to guage how much you are smoking or ingesting, making it VERY easy to overdose accidentally.  That's basically how I destroyed my life with marijuana.

 

If you would like to know what happened, basically I got too high too quickly on some strong stuff that a close friend of mine was smoking in a group.  I got high on like 1 hit, but didn't realize it, and then proceeded to take bigger and bigger hits without even realizing it.  I then had like a 12 hour panic attack, and then recurrent panic attacks for the next 6-9 MONTHS.  MONTHS folks, thats 9 months straight of heart palpitations, night sweats, difficulty sleeping, numbness tingling, HORRIBLE DP/DR, psycotic thoughts and ideas, the list just goes on and on and on.  It's now been about 1 year since I smoked the pot, and I'm like 50-75% recovered from my already fucked up withdrawal state before I smoked the pot (so maybe like 10-20% recovered overall).  So I lost a LOT of progress.  Very ******* tragic, really.

 

Just my 2C, hopefully someone here who's on the fence will be dissuaded by my story and save themselves 9-18 months of hell because of it. 

 

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to stay on topic - I'm not so sure if something as powerful as marijuana should be purchased at the local supermarket or pot shop by ANYONE over the age of 18.  there are a LOT of people that end up with depersonalization and derealization, psycosis, etc, just after smoking pot once.  Usually, folks smoke too much at once, but without a doctor telling you how much to smoke, how are you supposed to figure it out?  Sometimes you get a little carried away, and then BAM you're screwed for years.  Go to http://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/, lots of those folks got DP/DR after smoking pot just once.  After my experiences with pot, I'm not sure if it should be legal or not.  There's a shitload of unnecessary imprisonment that occurs, and I totally disagree with the legal system - for that reason, I'd say yes to legalization.  However, there are substantial risks people take by smoking pot, it should be labelled as extremely dangerous and provided instructions for use (i.e., start a small dose and increase as tolerance improves).

 

Idk, my 2C again.

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indigo

I have tapered down to a very small dose of Prozac but even with minute drops still experience dark, anxious days after dropping.

I was prescribed medical marujuana a couple of months ago to help with these withdrawal symptoms. I felt a bit nervous about it,

but yesterday had one inhale late afternoon. Have to say it totally lifted my anxiety and dread for the rest of the day. Everyone is different.

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freespirit

Indigo,

 

Do you know anything about the amount of THC in the medical marijuana you're using? I've been considering some for treatment of pain, but very much doubt my doc would prescribe. I'm thinking I might grow my own, if I could find seeds low in THC.

 

I've used some pot a number of times through withdrawal, mostly micro-dosing to treat symptoms. I make crackers, so it's easier for me to control the amount I'm taking in. I found it helped with nausea and also with mood. But now, seems to not be doing much of anything for mood..and I might be having a reaction a few days later..though it's hard to tell for sure.

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indigo

My mm came from the original medical marijuana collective in California. They grow their own organically.

(something to consider if you buy from other dispensaries)

The mm I got is  60% indica, 40% sativa. Didn't get the THC content,

but one toke lifted  dark thoughts and dread, without getting me really stoned.

In this town you can buy MM seedlings of different kinds on Craigslist.

You could check it out in your area but no way of knowing what you're buying is what they say it is.

 Definitely wouldn't risk buying seeds this way.

Growing your own is the way to go.

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freespirit

CA is miles ahead of where we are here in terms of mm. I found a farm on the island that grows organically. My next problem would be in finding a doc to prescribe. Health Canada has made it a complicated process, so I suspect many people end up buying on the street instead..where you have no idea at all of what you're getting. I buy mine from a friend of a friend. He grows a very small operation, only for himself and a few friends. I've been told he doesn't use chemicals, but who knows if that's true or not. The main problem for me is that he is always changing up what he grows...so in that respect, I don't know what I'm getting..and I suspect the goal for most people is getting high, which is not mine. One of my friends in CA is growing his own this year. He bought seeds through a Canadian company, which I've looked at. He has a prescription for psych issues. He believes it has saved his life.

 

I really prefer taking it in through food, rather than smoking it. I find it gentler and also, easier on my lungs. I need to make my crackers gluten free though, which I haven't done yet...will have to adjust the recipe.

 

I'm glad it proved helpful for you and that it continues to do so.

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indigo

Wishing you the best with this. 

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InvisibleUnless

there are reliable mail-order sites for seeds (though i dont know of any current ones offhand).  also remember to try to regulate your day/night cycles and have extra goodies for the plants like guana/fertilizer and even more experimental (but proven) techniques like sub-aural sonic stimulation if you can manage.  each breed has different sets of preferences, but there are some plants that are much easier to take care of while still meeting your CBD/THC ratio needs.  many dispensaries or shops have treelings you can get and then grow to maturity on your own, as well.

 

i dont know if i buy that CBD is 'not psychoactive', but its classification is kind of arbitrary because what counts is the experience as an individual---does it meet your needs or does it muck stuff up.  CBD is not the only thing to pay attention to when shopping for the ideal blend---THC has a synergistic effect with CBD, which means sometimes your benefits come from having both, even if they are regarded to be in the CBD spectrum of positive effects, and there are many other special chemicals appearing in different amounts in each strain that have an influence on the effect.  its more like buying a painting than choosing a material type for making pants.

 

i would write to a knowledgeable/experienced weed pharmacist about picking out strains that are best for your respective conditions/experiences and also liable to be grown more accommodatingly in private settings.  if you cant reach someone good, there are many websites dedicated to documenting the medical and experiential effects of particular stains---but be advised that many people either do not know or knowingly mislabel their strains, some strains have multiple names (or some names have competing identities), and that not all official strains or crossbreeds have the exact same ratios and effects.

 

microdosing and non-inhalation administration seem like great ideas to me, so i hope others are encouraged by the success of people here with that.  (which is, of course, not to suggest its right for some people, or that anyone should make a change based on the experiences or opinions in these posts.)  im afraid of eating my doses right now because it seems harder for me to regulate amount and effect that way (and the consequences in terms of duration can be more dire), but it is definitely easier on some peoples systems.  partly depends on how your internal organs are doing, i would think.

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freespirit

Thanks for your input invisible. Seems like you have a lot of knowledge on this subject. I'm only at the beginning of learning.

 

Home growing might be more than I'm willing/able to take on right now...a big part of wanting to do it is simply knowing what has gone into it and not the use of chemicals..which seems to be a source of a lot of my problems these days.

 

I'm also using it very infrequently right now. I am generally going several months between uses. I try using every other healing tool I have, before resorting to pot. There is always the risk it could make things worse, even in small doses..

 

For awhile, I wasn't able to take the crackers. When my digestion was bad, nothing would happen for about 6 hours after taking it..then it would hit me like a ton of bricks, about the time I was ready to go to bed. That's when I stopped using any of it, as smoking was very irritating to my lungs at that point, even 1 tiny hit.

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InvisibleUnless

growing can be a serious chore, and i wouldnt really recommend a first time grower tackle it while going through withdrawal.  most measures are just about boosting your quality and purity, as opposed to being absolutely vital to produce medication at all, but taking care of extra people, animals, or plants is a lot of work.

 

im a tad researched (and ive known a few growers)...mostly i just live in california (the amsterdam of america, despite colorado and washington having broader legalization policies), and have read some agricultural articles and weed politics magazines.  im glad you are highly suspicious of random origins...ive been lucky enough to largely account for my products via direct lineage, due to my location.  all sorts of chemicals, bad methods, and middleman contaminants can complicate or compromise your medication, and its a real shame.

 

ive had to ditch item after item due to increasing sensitivity to chemical contents...deodorant, most ice creams, tap water, etc.  i hope you can find some sort of legitimate source for the time being.  i dont really know the current cannabis situation in canada (or bc specifically, either, if each province has a say), but if you can get government vouched weed, id hope that would be at least a bit more reliable.  and if medical cannabis is legal there, perhaps there are collectives that would allow you to join (where you help them grow the community garden and then everyone gets a share---if you are disabled beyond the point of most work, i bet theyd understand and try to find a way for you to contribute).

 

if its a long process to get a script, i dont think i can really advise you specifically on it, but if theres waiting periods and tons of paperwork, id do as much as i could online/beforehand, and seek a recommendation to a doctor that knows about cannabis as a treatment tool and can give you a prescription that is direct and informed.  its really easy to get a weed prescription here, but there are a lot of shady docs/clinics/non-doctor prescribers that dont hold up to scrutiny as well, so finding someone aboveboard is important.

 

i imagine your options are somewhat limited there, but there are easier non-inhalation ways of taking your doses relatively precisely available some places.  less healthy things, like sodas, but also less recreational themed stuff, like CBD pills or suspension droppers (liquid, like homeopathic stuff or whatnot).  and, depending on the application you are requiring, some conditions are helped through topical medications---salves, lotions, 'skin butters', etc.  i dont know the laws there about shipping that stuff through the mail (perhaps authorized providers can drop ship from their location?), but hopefully working out a prescription and getting mail order could work if local options are too unreliable.

 

if you are in doubt about the safety of your available stock, i could try researching ways to try to reduce potential contaminants in samples.  its often hard to part plants from grown-in chemicals, but sometimes there are ways (usually involving state-changes).

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freespirit

You've provided a lot of great information here invisible. I'll probably come back and read again. I really appreciate your knowledge and input.

 

I think right now, growing my own is probably too much. I live on 1/4 acre lot which keeps me more than busy through this time of year. I even opted to plant the majority of my veggies in pots this year..to try and make things easier on myself. So, adding something I'm totally unfamiliar with on top of all of this is not a great idea at the moment.

 

I'd have to get the support of my own doctor, even if I can also find someone else who would prescribe. He'd have to submit information on what I've already tried for pain, and other stuff from my medical history. He is terrible at completing forms. It was a huge problem when I was going through legal stuff regarding a car accident. He just kept ignoring letters from the lawyers on both sides of the issue. It held things up. Also, he has been largely unsupportive of me choosing alternatives over western medicine. So, I have limited hopes of him doing anything for me on this count.

 

I currently live in a very small community. There are no sanctioned growers nearby and no community-type situations here. I found a place on the mainland that will prescribe, but it costs almost $400 to do it..not something I feel I can afford right now.

 

For the moment, I'm so rarely using that perhaps I need to just set this aside for a time. When I had a bit of cracker a few weeks ago, it was the first time in about 5 months. I do miss the relief that it used to bring me..but maybe it makes me more dedicated to other practices.

 

I'm sorry to hear about your chemical sensitivities. Tap water? Wow, that's intense if you can't even drink regular water. I tried to eliminate as many toxins as I could when I developed histamine problems. I use unscented, gentle, and natural produces as much as possible. But I can't afford to eat organic, except what comes from my own garden...I suspect that all plays a role in my health..but we each do what we can.

 

Thanks again for your help.

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Caratacos

Hi All, I just want to ask if anyone ever tried using medical cannabis as an alternative meds? I have read many articles about medical marijuana and how it can help you in terms of chronic pain, glaucoma, eating disorder/anorexia, anxiety disorders and panic attacks, inflammation, even cancer and a lot more. Like this article about a marijuana strain:Sour Jack from:http://www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/sour-jack/ . Cbd and thc are also new to me and I don't even smoke. If this is true I cant find any solid conclusive evidence that speaks to its efficacy. Any personal experience or testimonial would be highly appreciated. Thanks

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TedDykle

Though I am not able to partake, has anyone found marijuana helpful?

 

I ask because as this becomes legal in more and more places, someone must have some experience with it and how it applies to and effects depression/withdrawal?  How many people would never have been exposed to the wonderful world of antidepressants in the first place?

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nz11

Don’t go there.

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Centime

I self-medicated with pot for many years, though I recently quit as part of withdrawal from ALL drugs. Does anyone have any info about the interaction of marijuana and SSRIs?

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Altostrata

Merged similar topics.

 

Marijuana's effects are complex. Nobody understands its action. For our members, the effects are unpredictable. Some have benefitted and others have not.

 

If withdrawal syndrome has made you very sensitive to drugs, I would avoid marijuana.

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Centime

I'm definitely avoiding pot for the indefinite future. Although it worked wonders on the language problems I was having due to the Paxil (I'm a writer), I grew dependent on it. Now that I'm tapering off Paxil, I want to know exactly what's going on with nothing confusing the issue. My main concern is how long-term use might have affected my brain chemistry as far as withdrawal is concerned. I'm being very cautious and don't want to throw any wild cards into the mix. Thanks for linking me to this thread.

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Altostrata

We know that long-term pot users will experience withdrawal if they suddenly quit. That suggests that, while marijuana affects many kinds of receptors, it must cause some adaptation.

 

You can assume recovery from chronic marijuana use will be like other withdrawal syndrome recoveries: Very gradual.

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Blandell
On 1/28/2015 at 7:42 PM, WiggleIt said:

I hate to burst y'all's bubbles, but weed damages people also. It just takes longer.

 

Although, honestly, these psych meds are the WORST thing I've ever seen, ever. So, weed probably would have been better for everyone here for anxiety.

 

Have I mentioned I hate this world?

I’m using cannabis with THC for anxiety...very moderate. 

Im using CBD oil everyday to help me with withdrawal

 

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WiggleIt
On 6/26/2018 at 1:34 PM, Blandell said:

I’m using cannabis with THC for anxiety...very moderate. 

Im using CBD oil everyday to help me with withdrawal

 


Hello Blandell, 

Wow, I wrote that anti-weed comment three years ago.  My feelings on weed have changed.  In 2015, I was only one year off psych meds, and at that point in time I grew to hate EVERYTHING that was any kind of drug at all.  Nowadays, I'm much more mellow in my perspective.  I still don't think weed is anything to sneeze at or to take its usage lightly (bc it really can mess with people), but I do recognize that it can have very helpful value for some people.  

Just be careful and listen to your body.

I wish you healing and peace.

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Blandell

Yes I’m paying attention to how substances are affecting me. I’m settling on my current dose of 10mg Paxil and having less anxiety. I’ve increased my magnesium and salmon oil. Cbd really helps and I take that daily. I’ll be dropping again in less than a week. Barb 

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August 22  2018:  Mod. note  Sorry for any inconvenience to contributors to the previous edition of this topic.  Hoping to restore it soon.  I attempted to merge a newer topic to this one and ran into a computer glitch.

 

Discussions around this topic go here.  B)

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Posted (edited)

Here's one view on the topic from esteemed moderator brassmonkey:

With CBD becoming such a popular topic here I've started doing some research on it.  There is a huge amount of conflicting information out there on the subject and because it's today's "wonder drug" it's hard to find anything that is objective. What I have found though boils down to the fact that CBD is just another in a long line of natural SSRI/SDRI supplements. In many ways similar to SAMe, 5HTP and SJW but with some additional areas of effect that make it stronger acting. For a healthy person CBD, like the others, could be of some short term use.  But because of the way it alters serotonin and dopamine production prolonged use will probably lead to the same WD problems that we are familiar with.  I find the claims that there "are no side effects" to be very understated, misleading and as usually overly expressed by the people selling the products.  There actually are studies showing the benefits of CBD, but they were preformed on  small samples and in many cases were looking specifically for a certain positive effect.

 

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Posted (edited)

And a bit more from another esteemed moderator Skeeter,

 

I do not  personally yet suggest CBD for WD, as I have no experience with it in that capacity, but I think it is worth a try!  I do personally suggest it for neuropathy, pain does not wake me nearly as much, and I can wear sleeves for short periods, something that usually causes much pain, plus I can handle a breeze on my arms, first time in at least a decade.  I know it is the CBD, as I have stopped taking several times, and every time, the hypersensitivity, and awful sleep return to haunt me. I do not know if it would be good for WD.  It really has not had bad side effects to me, but when the brain and body are in an uproar, I do not know if it would be good or bad. 

 

I did 6 months total of research on CBD before deciding how to take it or how much. I do not believe in taking  CBD from the hemp plant, as it is the same price for hemp vs sativa (have not found any indica made into CBD) harvested early, to be legal with less than .03% THC. 

 

Hemp in the US is a legal term, any cannabis plant with .03% or less of THC is called "hemp"- cannot say you did not learn something today!

 

Good luck!

Skeeter

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jeremy1069

In moderation, I've found it to be extremely useful for a lot of different things, especially racing "what if" thoughts and depression as well as pain. There's so many different strains, they all work slightly different. 

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Blandell

I’m taking cbd daily ...no psychoactive impact at all. Is that what you’re talking about??

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jeremy1069
21 minutes ago, Blandell said:

I’m taking cbd daily ...no psychoactive impact at all. Is that what you’re talking about??

 

I think they're referring more to the actual thing. I've found the actual thing to be a quick fix at my lowest points. Not something I'd do everyday, but if I need a vacation for a few hours or a day, the actual thing (the one you smoke) has been very helpful for me over the years. But again, only in moderation. It's not something I'd do everyday unless I was in an area where it was 100% tolerated, and even there I wouldn't do it every day. Almost always special occasions. It shouldn't even be compared to alcohol. It's more of a relaxation thing and in some cases a pain relief thing. It's different for different people, so it's not something I believe to be for everybody in every situation.  

 

CBD is different. It's legal enough that I can walk into a grocery store or health food location and buy it regardless of where you are. There's no psychoactive effects at all. The relief is subtle. I've been using that mostly because of it's legality and ease of access.  Like marijuana, there are different strains of it, some have higher content. A bottle of the oil with 1mg per dose will not be as effective as a bottle of gel caps with 5mg, or higher. And yes, it is expensive. 

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Jeremy1069 and Blandell,

I just moved your posts and the entire topic, out of "off topic" to this topic in symptoms and self care. 

I'm still working on reconstructing some more of this topic, after a computer glitch I made(see my first post on Aug 22).

 

 

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Anyone on here currently using this?  I am wondering how it works for anxiety. I have read that there is no “high”. I figure I might try it....but looking for any other member experiences.   I know that the last time I smoked marijuana was very calming, I wasn’t “high”, my mind was just only thinking about one thing at a time.  But I’m not really interested in the high feeling.  From what I read the CBD doesn’t interact the same as actual THC. 

Thoughts and comments appreciated. 

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Here's the initial video that started this thread back in 2011.

It was posted by Shanti. 

This is the second edition(I could not find the first), it was made in 2014.  It may help answer some questions.

I'll get some of the earlier comments moved over ASAP.

It's about an hour long and I'm just listening now.

 

Keep in mind that....... it's a bit "sensational", mainly addressing the subject's personal experience with marijuana/hemp and his cancer diagnoses.  A bit of science is in there though.

 

Ladies and gentlemen:

Run from the Cure:

 

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review after watching

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