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RusTW

Manny do u get itchy skin.im curious if you have histamine intolerance also.

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Just now, RusTW said:

Manny do u get itchy skin.im curious if you have histamine intolerance also.

I do once in blue moon on my shoulder, knuckles or have weird red spots crop up on my arms, abdomen, or small welts crop up. Never had these issues. Though as soon as I started the w/d these symptoms began to crop up. 

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11 minutes ago, manny03 said:

I do once in blue moon on my shoulder, knuckles or have weird red spots crop up on my arms, abdomen, or small welts crop up. Never had these issues. Though as soon as I started the w/d these symptoms began to crop up. 

Im suspecting this is histamine stuff and gut bacteria imbalance prob both in my case

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1 minute ago, RusTW said:

Im suspecting this is histamine stuff and gut bacteria imbalance prob both in my case

Overtime this will heal itself. I hope to get back and eating my spicy foods and random fruits without fear I'm going to have issues later on. 

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Update

 

I'm having the seven to eight hours Windows between that...

 

Minimal g.i. Symptoms 

 

still with the weird skin issues 

 

Yesterday my upper shoulder and arms felt weak 

 

And headaches come and go. 

 

Besides that I feel I'm getting there. Three days ago was my nine months into this process. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, manny03 said:

Update

 

I'm having the seven to eight hours Windows between that...

 

Minimal g.i. Symptoms 

 

still with the weird skin issues 

 

Yesterday my upper shoulder and arms felt weak 

 

And headaches come and go. 

 

Besides that I feel I'm getting there. Three days ago was my nine months into this process. 

 

 

GOOD JOB POWERING THRU 9 MONTHS

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Update

 

I had seven hours of sleep. :)  First time since 2012 I've slept this long. 

 

However, it was the second time in three weeks that I had an anxiety/panic attack. :( 

 

With G.I. symptoms, the sensations came back in the middle of my abdomen. They had shifted to the sides/obliques. though, no issues when drinking water or oatmeal. :) 

 

Besides that, it feels like I'm in the middle of these weird macro (6 to 7hr) windows. 

 

 

 

 

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RusTW

Sounds good Manny good your getting windows and improvement.This gut thing is something else.its good though we both c in=mprovement after gi symptoms change.

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1 minute ago, RusTW said:

Sounds good Manny good your getting windows and improvement.This gut thing is something else.its good though we both c in=mprovement after gi symptoms change.

 

I'm glad I'm seeing these improvements though the brain and gut symptoms are a trip.  

 

My G.I. symptoms right now changed. I have slight cramps on the upper right side or if not shift to the middle of my belly button. If not that, it again switches to headaches. 

 

If not, I get really off balanced or it occurs when I'm eating which is random. Though, today I didn't feel any sensations when eating. :) 

 

However, I noticed what Leo mentioned that if you sleep longer, the symptoms either change or get a bit intense. Since its three days in a row that I'm sleeping 7hrs. 

 

Last thing, as the summer approaches, it's getting warm in SoCal and I'm noticing I'm going to have another fun summer! (Sarcasm) lol! I noticed rash-like spots on my arm. This happened last year within weeks of my withdrawal. I know Shep suffered from these rashes for two summers until it calmed down and faded away. 

 

How you been Rus? Any improvements are you in the same spot?

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Update

 

It's been a parade of symptoms mixed with windows. 

 

Slept five hours. :( 

 

Neck tension. 

 

G.I. symptoms I've already mentioned, so I won't belabor the point. 

 

I had the off-balance sensations, sharp headaches, tension, pressure, ear ache that switches back and forth, and suddenly my hearing went hay-wire. It seems someone lowered the volume on the left ear while it was raised on the right one, then both leveled off. 

 

Last night, I was having weird vision issues. I had my sight, though felt my eyes were doing something. 

 

 

 

 

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Leo1983

Thats the windows and wave pattern my man. 

 

You feel like your out of it and sadly get drawn back into it all. 

 

It will all stop one day mate. 

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manny03
9 minutes ago, Leo1983 said:

Thats the windows and wave pattern my man. 

 

You feel like your out of it and sadly get drawn back into it all. 

 

It will all stop one day mate. 

 

I hope so. 

 

Hope everything is well enough for you to enjoy your new bundle of joy. 

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Update

 

Happy Easter to those who celebrate it. 

 

Just wanted to add a new symptom that has cropped up with what I wrote yesterday. 

 

Sharp pains on my right thigh and calf.  They come and go. They're not constant, just like my G.I. symptoms. 

 

Lovely. (Sarcasm) 

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Came across The Guardian write up of how most people should come off anti-depressants. Though, If you go to Facebook's post regarding the article,  some are offended by saying the newspaper is stigmatizing people taking medications when it's not. The article is just bringing to the attention of many that the medical community has no idea how to deal with W/D symptoms. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/apr/22/antidepressants-is-there-a-better-way-to-quit-them?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0I3ciIkhxcZlEV9pYaxbalHylLDhqY8dzTrZn2e34-OBAUQSvaP9gKJ7w#Echobox=1555941769

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RusTW

Hi Manny hope your still getting those windows.

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manny03
1 hour ago, RusTW said:

Hi Manny hope your still getting those windows.

 

I"m having my micro-windows and waves.

 

At the moment, my symptoms are between head, emotional,  and G.I. 

 

Vivid dreams. Then, interrupted sleep. 

 

Band pressure around my head.

Weird eye sensations...I'm conscious of what it's doing. 

Off balance 

Sudden fits of rage. Throwing stuff or hitting myself. 

 

G.I. 

Cramp/ache sensation before pooping. 

 

Mixture

 

Off balance when eating or about to poop. 

 

Besides that which sounds scary...its calm like nothing is happening. It seems some major rewiring is occurring with the mixture of symptoms then suddenly calming down. Then, suddenly going back and forth with symptoms.

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6 hours ago, manny03 said:

 

I"m having my micro-windows and waves.

 

At the moment, my symptoms are between head, emotional,  and G.I. 

 

Vivid dreams. Then, interrupted sleep. 

 

Band pressure around my head.

Weird eye sensations...I'm conscious of what it's doing. 

Off balance 

Sudden fits of rage. Throwing stuff or hitting myself. 

 

G.I. 

Cramp/ache sensation before pooping. 

 

Mixture

 

Off balance when eating or about to poop. 

 

Besides that which sounds scary...its calm like nothing is happening. It seems some major rewiring is occurring with the mixture of symptoms then suddenly calming down. Then, suddenly going back and forth with symptoms.

Yes that's what's happening to me too

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3 hours ago, RusTW said:

Yes that's what's happening to me too

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RusTW

Manny how are u

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13 minutes ago, RusTW said:

Manny how are u

 

Mostly the same as yesterday. 

 

Off balance - Just how it was when I began my W/D

Headaches/pressure

Sensation when eating, or about to poop

Intrusive thoughts

Constantly wanting to go to the restroom 

 

Then, it stops like nothing is wrong. So its windows and waves. Though, at least it's not as intense as before. 

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RusTW
Just now, manny03 said:

 

Mostly the same as yesterday. 

 

Off balance - Just how it was when I began my W/D

Headaches/pressure

Sensation when eating, or about to poop

Intrusive thoughts

Constantly wanting to go to the restroom 

 

Then, it stops like nothing is wrong. So its windows and waves. Though, at least it's not as intense as before. 

Same here.im back to the fatigue after a nice window.lots of gut stuffsore tongue and itchy skin.im still convinced its the gut microbe causing all this misery.

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26 minutes ago, RusTW said:

Same here.im back to the fatigue after a nice window.lots of gut stuffsore tongue and itchy skin.im still convinced its the gut microbe causing all this misery.

 

In my case, I don't know if it's having bad bacteria in my gut. Though, I know my symptoms that I'm having began after entering withdrawals. 

 

I forgot to add with this wave my hyper sex drive has made a come back. So, something screwy happened since it had resolved itself. 

 

I saw that you posted in JC's thread. I know she posted yesterday that she might still be having IBS issues though from what I read, it seems the symptoms have improved. Though, let see what she says. 

 

 

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RusTW
3 hours ago, manny03 said:

 

In my case, I don't know if it's having bad bacteria in my gut. Though, I know my symptoms that I'm having began after entering withdrawals. 

 

I forgot to add with this wave my hyper sex drive has made a come back. So, something screwy happened since it had resolved itself. 

 

I saw that you posted in JC's thread. I know she posted yesterday that she might still be having IBS issues though from what I read, it seems the symptoms have improved. Though, let see what she says. 

 

 

Manny I think it might b bad bacteria. I've researched and all these symptoms come up.JC had candida also.

I've reacted to probiotics and natural antifungal so I'm pretty sure on my end.i had this 8n the past.it was horrible. From taking cipro.

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1 hour ago, RusTW said:

Manny I think it might b bad bacteria. I've researched and all these symptoms come up.JC had candida also.

I've reacted to probiotics and natural antifungal so I'm pretty sure on my end.i had this 8n the past.it was horrible. From taking cipro.

 

I'll see what happens in my case. 

 

I had a breath test (H. plyori) done to see if I had bad bacteria causing my G.I. symptoms last December and that came out negative 

 

 I have noticed the cramps and aches have lessened with my G.I. So there's been an improvement from late December. Though, the lingering symptoms are still bothersome. 

 

However, the most bothersome symptom I'm having at the moment is the off-balance feeling just like I did at the beginning of my withdrawal in July. It had resolved itself in December though that's when the morphing of symptoms occurred. The off-balance sensation came back three weeks ago, and like I mentioned my hyper sex drive came back which won't knock it, though I know its not normal. 

 

These W/Ds just make everything so confusing. :( 

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37 minutes ago, manny03 said:

 

I'll see what happens in my case. 

 

I had a breath test (H. plyori) done to see if I had bad bacteria causing my G.I. symptoms last December and that came out negative 

 

 I have noticed the cramps and aches have lessened with my G.I. So there's been an improvement from late December. Though, the lingering symptoms are still bothersome. 

 

However, the most bothersome symptom I'm having at the moment is the off-balance feeling just like I did at the beginning of my withdrawal in July. It had resolved itself in December though that's when the morphing of symptoms occurred. The off-balance sensation came back three weeks ago, and like I mentioned my hyper sex drive came back which won't knock it, though I know its not normal. 

 

These W/Ds just make everything so confusing. :( 

I passed the h pylori breath test too recently.Im thinking other gut bacteria.We have Wd symptoms but also symptoms of gut bacteria gone ari. The moving from diarrhea and constipation  reflux fog dizzy skin issues anxiety  depression can happen with dysbiosis .dysbiosis also causes food intolerances .Have to say since addressing this I'm seeing improvement already.

Just food for thought lol

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Update

 

I still have the other symptoms that I've previously mentioned, though today is the first day that I didn't have any abdominal sensations/aches when eating breakfast and lunch today. The last time I was this well it was in late November 2018. :) 

 

Though, I know the reality on how I came off the medication the sensations will come back, though at least for today I didn't have any of those sensations. 

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Chatted earlier with a person in Trintellix page in Facebook. She went through similar situation as me with the G.I. symptoms. It seems the coating on the dose I was taking triggers G.I. symptoms. I never had any until I entered withdrawals. She went to her Dr and saw that her G.I. was also inflammed. They gave her presidone and went away. 

 

Glad to know its at least a side effect of the dose I was taking and not making up some crazy end of the world theories.  Going with the Dr., for the moment, I won't since the last time I went, they laughed me off. Plus, I don't' want to add anything that triggers my nervous system even more.  I'm just going to let my system correct itself. 

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Update

 

G.I. symptoms come and go. 

 

Skin bruising still occurs though takes far less time to heal. 

 

Still having off-balance sensation and slight head pressure. 

 

Then, suddenly, I'm having moments (windows) were I feel myself like I used to in 2011 (the year before I entered USC) no head, g.i. or emotional symptoms. I felt strange and scared to feel normal realizing these fleeting moments will go away. Though, the waves come back.  So, in a way, this is good news. 

 

Though in a bittersweet note, I went to the mall with ma, we used to bring my pawpaw with us. He passed on in 2014. I mentioned to my mom my pawpaw would love to see the remodel done to the mall, thinking he was still alive. Then, I realized he was gone. This has made me realized how intense my W/Ds have been if I'm having moments where I think I'm in 2010/2011/2012. 

 

 

 

 

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Came across this and it sounds just exactly to what's happening to me with the present G.I. symptoms. Seems due to the W/D the muscle instead of relaxing, they've tightened up.  It's called 'pelvic floor dyssnergia'

 

Also, remarked about something I was ashamed to mentioned, though it seems its also side effect of this...'semen leakage'. 

 

https://rxisk.org/bladder-and-bowel-problems-after-antidepressants/

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RusTW

Manny glad to hear your getting windowz.

Russ 

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2 minutes ago, RusTW said:

Manny glad to hear your getting windowz.

Russ 

 

I am. I've noticed my symptoms are morphing again.  I'm having back aches and ear pain. 

 

What about you? 

 

 

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Update

 

Symptoms

 

Intrusive Thoughts

 

Tuesday, I had the odd hearing loss on my left ear while the right one went pretty high for a millisecond. 

 

Joint, back and side aches. 

 

That warmish/chill sensations made a comeback. 

 

Abdominal tension, cramps/electrical sensations though not as frequent as before....at the moment, my stomach is almost back to normal and the symptoms shifted onto my bowels since I was able to eat some of my ma's spicy and acidic dishes without having stomach burning sensations or heartburn.  

 

Off balance before passing a movement and still passing constipated movements

 

I've noticed I'm constantly using the restroom...like my bowels are hyperactive though not passing diarrhea, and instead having really small movements between the large ones in morning and night. 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/9/2019 at 10:50 PM, manny03 said:

Well, I went to the restroom again, no blood on my movement though I did feel a seering hot sensation which correlates to anal fissure. Sorry for the TMI from the early post. I've let my HA and withdrawals take over me, and over blew this. 

If youre dealing with fissures please try having 0.5-1 tablespoon of cold pressed rapeseed oil every morning together with your breakfast. 

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Update

 

Seems my symptoms morphed once again. 

 

My stomach issues have resolved at the moment...able to eat dairy (yogurt), spices etc. Though switched to my lower G.I. tract now. Suffer from Constipation, urge to pass a movement when nothing occurs, sensation in my lower g.i. tract when eating. 

 

The off-balance sensation is almost gone. 

 

However, my intrusive thought have become somewhat intense since suddenly I break to micro-windows. 

 

I have noticed when I have a severe tremors episode is when my symptoms begin to morph to something new since I was almost a month out without any tremors until two days ago when they came back. 

 

@RusTW How's your W/D journey going? 

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17 minutes ago, manny03 said:

Update

 

Seems my symptoms morphed once again. 

 

My stomach issues have resolved at the moment...able to eat dairy (yogurt), spices etc. Though switched to my lower G.I. tract now. Suffer from Constipation, urge to pass a movement when nothing occurs, sensation in my lower g.i. tract when eating. 

 

The off-balance sensation is almost gone. 

 

However, my intrusive thought have become somewhat intense since suddenly I break to micro-windows. 

 

I have noticed when I have a severe tremors episode is when my symptoms begin to morph to something new since I was almost a month out without any tremors until two days ago when they came back. 

 

@RusTW How's your W/D journey going? 

Lol Man I'm struggling with this detox. I have been expelling candida and parasites. My gut issues flared after last year's Christmas party I ate a bunch of sushi and thought it was wd or the flu.I was very wrong. This is a whole new level of fun.

I'm using natural foods and juices to detox.about 80% healthy eating now.i don't crave the carbs as bad.

 

What are your tremors like?

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7 minutes ago, RusTW said:

Lol Man I'm struggling with this detox. I have been expelling candida and parasites. My gut issues flared after last year's Christmas party I ate a bunch of sushi and thought it was wd or the flu.I was very wrong. This is a whole new level of fun.

I'm using natural foods and juices to detox.about 80% healthy eating now.i don't crave the carbs as bad.

 

What are your tremors like?

 

They usually occur on my head and shoulders. 

 

It's weird that you mention about not craving carbs since it also happened to me. After my last response of last week, my constant desire to eat carbs, sweets went away which is a plus.

 

Ever since my W/D I've gained 26lbs. Now, I have to lose them and get me back to where I was before (178). It's going to be daunting since I don't want to push myself doing extensive workouts since I'll have another w/d flare up. 

 

The good thing is that at least this confirms I don't have some crazy cancer, since like my GP told me I'd be losing weight not gaining. lol! So it's being a crap show. 

 

 

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