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If it helps you to post the daily notes, please do so. We will be asking you if the trazodone reduction has caused any problems, it's best to have daily notes to answer that. We need to be able to trace your symptom pattern after any dosage changes.

 

It's very likely trazodone is not necessary for your sleeping or you could do with a lot less than 56mg, you're taking so much in the way of benzos.

 

Trazodone may be contributing to some of your side effects. Minimizing the drug burden is desirable for general health.

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2 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Minimizing the drug burden is desirable for general health

I agree, I just dont know which one to taper at this point.  I'm very nervous about what is the right path.  If this taper goes well with Trazadone I was thinking of trying taper every 3 weeks.  Or hold and start benzo taper. I'm unsure which path to take. I appreciate your help and suggestions.  I will continue to post daily symptoms and I guess revisit this in a few weeks?

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Yes, let's see what happens with this change.

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Today's update.  It was an ok day. Less brain dysfunction and nausea as day went on.  Still tired all day.

 

 

2:30 a.m. woke up,  slept on and off until 7:00  Got about 6 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious, brain dysfunction

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

9:00 ate breakfast, still some brain dysfunction, mild nausea

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  Less brain dysfunction.

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan still slight brain dysfunction but not as bad as in the morning

5:15 went out to supper, moderate anxiety, crying spell

6:15 Anxiety better once I got home.

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:45 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Woke up feeling groggy, tired. As soon as I got out of bed mild nausea and brain dysfunction started. Very tired all day.  More so than a few weeks ago.

 

 

Woke up around 5:30 then slept on and off until 7:00  Got about 7 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious brain dysfunction

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

9:00 ate breakfast, still some brain dysfunction, nausea

11:00 brain dysfunction getting less,very little nausea but feeling very emotional 

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  Still  Less nausea and brain dysfunction.

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

5:30 mild headache starting 

6:00 ate supper.  Slight increase in anxiety

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:30 update SA page still have slight headache

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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You're feeling tired all day is probably because of the benzos.

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5 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

You're feeling tired all day is probably because of the benzos

I figured, but I seem to be more tired than before.  I know we said we'd give it more time to see what I should taper next.  I think the Trazadone gives me the hungover feeling in the morning.  If i taper benzo next I'd like to be at 50 mg trazadone which would be my next cut because I dont have to have that amount compounded and the Ativan I would have to have made into a liquid.

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Yes, I'd continue to taper trazodone.

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Today's update.  Overall not a great day.  Lot of brain dysfunction. Not as tired all day as yesterday.  Throat issues. I have had throat issues for months, but past few days seem worse.   Brain dysfunction wasnt as bad last week, not sure if this is from Trazadone reduction or in a wave unrelated.

 

 

3:30 a.m. woke up dell asleep on and off until 6:30  Got about 6 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious, brain dysfunction, nausea

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium, ate breakfast, still lots of brain dysfunction and nausea

10:00 went to church. Very anxious 

11:30 less nausea and brain dysfunction 

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

1:30 took 15 min nap

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  Less nausea and brain dysfunction.

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

6:00 ate supper.  Still some brain dysfunction and nausea

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:30 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Today was a little better than yesterday. Less brain dysfunction and mild nausea.  Still have throat issues, they haven't gotten worse.

 

 

3:30 a.m. woke up slept on and off until 7:30  Got about 7 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious brain dysfunction

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

9:00 ate breakfast, still some brain dysfunction, nausea but lessening

11:00  very little brain dysfunction and nausea.  Some anxiety.

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

1:00 mild headache starting

2:15 therapy appt.  Headache increasing.  Brain dysfunction too. 

3:30 took 400 mg advice for headache

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

5:30 ate supper.  No headache almost no brain dysfunction, very mild nausea

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:30 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Overall not a good day.  Lots of crying, brain fog and headache most of the day. 

 

I know it is not recommended to taper more than one drug at the same time but I have seen that some people have done it.  I was thinking of tapering Ativan using brass monkey slide method while tapering Trazadone.  Would like to hear your thoughts and advice on doing this.

 

 

3:30 a.m. woke up, fell backnasleep until about 7:30  Got about 6.5 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious brain dysfunction, nausea

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

9:00 ate breakfast, still some brain dysfunction, nausea headache started

11:00 went to store

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  Less nausea still brain dysfunction and headache 

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

4:30 headache starting to ease up

5:30 ate supper.  Still brain dysfunction 

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:30 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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19 minutes ago, Rezten said:

I was thinking of tapering Ativan using brass monkey slide method while tapering Trazadone.

 

SA recommends tapering only one drug at a time.  If you experience issues you won't know what is causing the problem.  You won't know if you need to updose a drug and you wouldn't know which one to updose.  It can actually end up taking longer than if you had tapered them separately.

 

You might want to consider tapering one drug for a while and then tapering the other drug for a while.

 

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8 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

 

You might want to consider tapering one drug for a while and then tapering the other drug for a while.

Thank you.  Maybe I will do that when I get a little further down on the Trazadone.  I guess I just want off everything as soon as possible. 

 

I updated my signature, but did not copy it into a post before editing.  I forgot to do it.  

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Lots of brain dysfunction and nausea this morning.  Crying spells throughout the day

 

 

3:30 a.m. Woke up slept on and off until about 7 a.m.   Got about 6 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious lots of brain dysfunction and nausea. Headache.

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

9:00 ate breakfast, still some brain dysfunction, nausea, headache. Anxious

11:00 took 400 mg ibuprofen 

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch. Headache subsided

1:30 no headache, less brain dysfunction.  Less nausea still anxious

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan still Less brain dysfunction and nausea

6:00 ate supper.  

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:30 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Lots of brain dysfunction and nausea today.  Not sure if I'm in a bad wave or if this is from Trazadone cut but I haven't had this bad of brain dysfunction in several months.  I think maybe November.  It is about 10 months since withdrawal started so is it possible this is the 10 month wave I have seen people mention.

 

 

4:00 a.m. woke up,then slept on and off until 7:00  Got about 6 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious brain dysfunction, nausea

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium ate breakfast

 still brain dysfunction, nausea

10:00 bible study

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

1:00 wave  of intense nausea and brain dysfunction.

2:00 133 mg magnesium. 

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

5:30 ate supper. Still lots of brain dysfunction, mild nausea

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:45 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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How has the quality of your sleep changed as you've reduced trazodone?

 

Your "brain dysfunction" still looks like benzo side effects.

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10 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

How has the quality of your sleep changed as you've reduced trazodone?

My sleep is the same.

 

10 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Your "brain dysfunction" still looks like benzo side effects

It is?  I thought brain dysfunction  was part of withdrawal symptoms.  I think maybe I should start tapering Benzos soon then?  How come it comes and goes?

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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On 1/24/2019 at 5:27 PM, Altostrata said:

 

Please take a good look at what happens when these drugs interact.

 

https://www.drugs.com/article/benzodiazepines.html

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Common side effects of benzodiazepines

Drowsiness, sleepiness, or dizziness are the most commonly reported side effects with this drug class. Driving or operating machinery or perform other hazardous tasks can be dangerous while using these drugs. Drinking alcohol in combination with benzodiazepines may heighten these effects.

 

Unusual sleep behaviors and anterograde amnesia may occur with traditional benzodiazepines. Anterograde amnesia is the loss of the ability to create new memories, leading to a partial or complete inability to recall the recent past. Several benzodiazepines are known to have this powerful amnesic effect; triazolam (Halcion) is notorious.

 

Next day drowsiness and "hangover effect" is a concern with benzodiazepines that have long duration, for example, with diazepam or flurazepam. The sedative side effects can carry into the next day and impair driving and other daily activities; this is a particularly concerning risk in the elderly.

....

Intravenous (IV) benzodiazepines can be associated with cardiac and/or respiratory arrest if they are given too rapidly. Other reactions due to IV administration may include:

  • hypotension (low blood pressure)
  • cardiac arrhythmias (abnormal heart rates)
  • slow heart rate
  • apnea (temporarily stopping breathing, especially during sleep)
  • respiratory depression (slowed breathing)
  • nausea/vomiting
  • blurred vision or double vision
  • skin rash
  • injection site reactions

 

 

The most obvious source of "brain dysfunction" is the benzos, not withdrawal.

 

Most likely, if the trazodone caused withdrawal symptoms, your sleep pattern would also change.

 

Are you ready to reduce trazodone by 2mg?

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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32 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Are you ready to reduce trazodone by 2mg?

Why 2 mg? I'm currently at 54 mg and was going to reduce it to 50 so I can start benzo taper, but since i just made the cut i was going to wait another week or so but if u think i can do it sooner i will.

 

Some of my brain dysfunction includes burning sensation in my head, feeling of pressure different parts of my brain, vertigo.  I am willing to do whatever I need to get some relief.  

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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If I go to 50 mg I wont have to have that compounded.  Right now I don't have a way of reducing by 2 mg

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Overall less brain dysfunction and nausea

 

 

4:00 a.m. woke up,  slept on and off until 70  Got about 6 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious, less brain dysfunction than yesterday 

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

9:00 ate breakfast, still some brain dysfunction, nausea

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

1:00 brain dysfunction increasing 

2:00 133 mg magnesium 

2:30 less brain dysfunction, emotional still slight nausea

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

6:00 ate supper.  Still brain dysfunction, slight nausea

6:30 133 mg magnesium 

6:45 update SA page

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Overall an ok day mild to moderate brain dysfunction and nausea all day, but low anxiety.

 

 

4:30 a.m. woke up, slept on and off until 7:00  Got about 6 hours sleep. Woke up tired and groggy.  Anxious brain dysfunction

7:30 ate breakfast

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

11:00 went to store

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch.

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  Less nausea and brain dysfunction.

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

5:30 ate supper.  Still brain issues and mild nausea

6:00 update SA page

7:00 133 mg magnesium 

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

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Hmmm, you're doing a little better, seems like less trazodone is a good direction.

 

On 1/31/2019 at 7:44 PM, Rezten said:

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Some of my brain dysfunction includes burning sensation in my head, feeling of pressure different parts of my brain, vertigo.  I am willing to do whatever I need to get some relief.  

 

I'm glad you clarified that because your use of the term "brain dysfunction" drives me a little crazy. I would prefer you more closely explain the sensations.

 

The nausea is a side effect of the benzos:
 

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Benzodiazepines can cause side effects, such as:

  • Drowsiness
  • Dizziness
  • Nausea
  • Dry mouth
  • Constipation
  • Weight gain
  • Confusion
  • Trembling
  • Headache
  • Depression
  • Changes in vision
  • Worsening breathing problems
  • Birth defects if taken during pregnancy


 

 

 

On 2/1/2019 at 11:37 AM, Rezten said:

If I go to 50 mg I wont have to have that compounded.  Right now I don't have a way of reducing by 2 mg

 

Yes, you can reduce to 50mg, but let's let the last cut settle for a week or so. If you continue to see a little improvement, that would be a good sign.

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7 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

 

Yes, you can reduce to 50mg, but let's let the last cut settle for a week or so. If you continue to see a little improvement, that would be a good sign.

Should I start tonight even though it hasn't been quite 2 weeks.  I just re read this and you want me to hold at 54 mg another week and then cut?  

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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3 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

I would prefer you more closely explain the sensations.

Ok. I will be clearer with the sensations.

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Don't change the trazodone dosage tonight, you just started to see improvement. This means the change has impressed your nervous system and it's stabilizing.

 

Let it adjust a bit more and get more stable, every drug change rocks it and can make it wobble.

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8 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Don't change the trazodone dosage tonight, you just started to see improvement. This means the change has impressed your nervous system and it's stabilizing.

 

Let it adjust a bit more and get more stable, every drug change rocks it and can make it wobble.

Ok, I'll wait another week.

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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19 hours ago, Altostrata said:

The nausea is a side effect of the benzos:

I know Trazadone can cause nausea too.  So I dont know which is causing it or both.  I think it might be a good idea to start tapering benzo once I'm at 50 mg Trazadone.  I'm nervous about all this and not sure which direction to go but I think that might be the best route.  

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Last night I noticed the burning/numb sensation in brain seemed to increase as night went on.  Went to bed with a headache and woke up at 2:30 with headache.  Had burning/numb feeling in brain all day and mild to moderate nausea

 

 

2:30 a.m. woke upb with headache, 3:30 a.m. too 400 mg Ibuprofen.  Slept on and off until 7. About 5.5 hours of sleep 

7:30 ate breakfast mild brain sensations burning/numbness and mild nausea

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium

10:00 went to church, mild to moderate brain sensations mild to moderate nausea

12:00 1mg Valium

1:30 ate lunch still brain sensations/nausea

2:00 133 mg magnesium.  

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

5:30 ate supper.  Still brain issues and mild nausea

6:30 update SA page, brain sensations seem to be increasing

7:00 133 mg magnesium 

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Last night I noticed the burning/numb sensation in brain seemed to increase as night went on after around 7:00.  Had burning/numb sensation in head all day, it was worse in morning, lessened as day went on.  Less anxiety today.  Trying fish oil.  I'm cautious because I have histimine intolerance and have read conflicting statements if it is high histimine, but I'm going to try it.

 

 

4:30 a.m. woke up slept on and off until 7:00 about 6.5 hours of sleep 

7:30 moderste brain sensations burning/numbness and moderatebnausea

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium .

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium ate breakfast.

10:00 brain sensations are less, very mild nausea, went to store

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch still mild brain sensations almost no nausea.

2:00 133 mg magnesium and 1400 mg fish oil.

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan

6:15 ate supper.  Still brain issues and mild nausea.

6:30 update SA page

7:00 133 mg magnesium 

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Today's update.  Overall good day today.  Woke up with burning/numb sensation in head but it lessened as day went on, but didn't totally go away.  No nausea and emotions were pretty stable. Almost felt like myself.

 

 

4:30 a.m. woke up slept on and off until 7:00 about 6.5 hours of sleep. Woke up very tired, like I barely slept, but that's how I feel every morning and moderste brain sensations burning/numbness 

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium, ate breakfast 

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium and 1400 mg fish oil, ate breakfast.

10:00 less brain issues

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch still mild brain sensations 

1:00 went for a 30 minute walk

2:00 133 mg magnesium 

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan, still mild brain sensations

5:45 ate supper

6:30 update SA page, feels like brain sensations are increasing a little, maybe a mild headache coming on.

7:00 133 mg magnesium 

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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@Altostrata I was hoping to do another cut of Trazadone next week. That will be three weeks from my last cut.  My question is do you think I should continue with the Trazadone taper or hold at 50 mg then start Ativan taper.  I'm not sure what's causing the brain sensations I am having.  Today it felt more like pressure or tightness than burning sensation and very little nausea yesterday and so far today.  Not sure if symptoms are from Traz, Benzo or both and which direction would be best.

 

I feel these are my choices, please let me know what you think.

 

1. Cut Trazadone to 50 mg (doesn't need to be compounded) hold, and a few weeks after that start Ativan taper.

2. Cut Trazadone to 48.6 mg (10% of current dose) and continue 10% to taper every 3 or 4 weeks.  

 

Thank you

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Yes, I would reduce trazodone to 50mg and keep notes.

 

I had histamine intolerance and could not take fish oil made from calamari, but I could take the kind made from cold-water fish.

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5 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Yes, I would reduce trazodone to 50mg and keep notes.

Ok.  I will do that next week and give it some time and then we can decide if I go further with Traz or start Ativan taper.

 

7 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

I had histamine intolerance and could not take fish oil made from calamari, but I could take the kind made from cold-water fish.

Mine says made from Anchovy, herring, mackeral, sardines.

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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Those are cold-water fish.

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Today's update.  Overall good day today.  Woke up with burning/numb sensation in head but it lessened as day went on, but didn't totally go away.  No nausea and emotions were pretty stable.

 

 

4:30 a.m. woke up slept on and off until 7:00 about 6.hours of sleep. Woke up very tired, like I barely slept, but that's how I feel every morning and moderste brain sensations burning/numbness. Woke up with a mild headache 

8:00 took 1.5 mg Valium, ate breakfast 

8:30 took 133 mg magnesium and 1400 mg fish oil, ate breakfast. still moderate head issues. Headache gone

9:30 very tired took a 15 min nap.

10:00 less head issues

12:00 1mg Valium, ate lunch still mild brain sensations 

1:00 went out to store

2:00 133 mg magnesium 

4:00 took .5 mg Ativan, still moderqte brain sensations

5:00 head issues decreased a little

5:45 ate supper

6:30 update SA page, 

7:00 133 mg magnesium 

8:00 .5 mg Ativan

9:30 54 mg of Trazadone and .5 mg Melatonin 

 

Effexor 2008 - 2017 37.5 Mg . Upped to 150 mg on 2017.  November of 2017 to March 2018 went from 150 mg to 0.

Ativan May 2018 started 1 - 2 mg daily stayed at 1mg Sept 2018. 03/9/19 .975mg, 03/16 .950mg, 04/13 .94, 04/20 .93, 04/27 .916 slowly tapered from April to  August 2019 at .77mg,  December 2020 .10mg, Jan 2021 0.0 MG 

Valium June 2018 started 10 mg currently 2.5 mg daily, September 2021 0.0 mg

Trazadone started March 2018 100 mg at night to sleep Oct 16, 2018 went to 75 mg , November 13, 2018 67.5 mg, Dec 11 60.75 mg, January 21, 2019  54 mg, 02/09 50 mg, March 2022 0.0 mg

Six Ketamine treatments September 2018.  2 treatments a week for 3 weeks

Completely drug free as of March 2022

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