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David Foster Wallace was a brilliant American writer who took his own life in 2008 after 1.5 years of Nardil withdrawal syndrome.

 

This April 5, 2011 article by Maria Bustillos in The Awl describes his efforts to understand himself, as found among his books and papers in a public collection.

 

Inside David Foster Wallace's Private Self-Help Library

 

http://www.theawl.com/2011/04/inside-david-foster-wallaces-private-self-help-library/

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David Foster Wallace was a brilliant American writer who took his own life in 2008 after 1.5 years of Nardil withdrawal syndrome.

 

This April 5, 2011 article by Maria Bustillos in The Awl describes his efforts to understand himself, as found among his books and papers in a public collection.

 

Inside David Foster Wallace's Private Self-Help Library

 

http://www.theawl.com/2011/04/inside-david-foster-wallaces-private-self-help-library/

 

Just a few days ago I learned an interesting fact about David Foster Wallace. His papers were bought and archived by the University of Texas at Austin where they are available for public perusal at the Harry Ransom Center (HRC). I have walked by the HRC 500 times in my career as a student and Austinite generally but have never been inside. We (it's my alma matter) also keep a Gutenberg Bible at HRC.

 

I spoke with someone recently who traveled to Austin specifically to look through these documents. I talked to him after the trip, and he told me it was a treasure for him to get access to all that stuff. He, like many, is a huge David Foster Wallace fan.

 

I haven't read any of his fiction. I only know of Infinite Jest, as it is the favorite book of a very close friend. I do recall reading a DFW Rolling Stone piece about the 2000 R primary between McCain and Bush and thinking highly of it. It was in a book that compiled the best magazine feature writing from that year. I think there was a Malcolm Gladwell essay about Ron Popeil the infomercial guy as well.

 

So if anyone is ever in Austin, I can show you to the HRC, and we can both walk through the doors for the first time.

 

Alex.I

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Yes, this article is about the books and papers in the Harry Ransom Center.

 

I'll take you up on that offer next time I'm in Austin, alex.

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Yes, this article is about the books and papers in the Harry Ransom Center.

 

I'll take you up on that offer next time I'm in Austin, alex.

 

That would be lovely. I hope I am well enough by that time to be a good tour guide. :-)

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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I don't know his timeline -- when he started experiencing depression, when he used which street drugs and alcohol, when he first started meds, when he had the ECT. So, I don't know what to attribute to meds, and what not. Certainly, being in MAOI w/d and *not knowing it* pushed him over the edge into suicide.

 

I skimmed bits of the article, and I see he closely read Alice Miller's "Drama of the Gifted Child," which is a favorite of mine. That book helped me a lot. I wish it could have helped him more. Had he already been exposed to meds at that point? ECT? These would have made learning difficult.

 

This website, survivingantidepressants, will make this kind of tragedy less likely to occur. If a person is in extreme distress and they discover that it is due to psych med w/d, then they can hold out. Wait for healing. There is something to look forward to. And, just as important, *things begin to make sense*.

1996-97 - Paxil x 9 months, tapered, suffered 8 months withdrawal but didn't know it was withdrawal, so...

1998-2001 - Zoloft, tapered, again unwittingly went into withdrawal, so...

2002-03 - Paxil x 20 months, developed severe headaches, so...

Sep 03 - May 05 - Paxil taper took 20 months, severe physical, moderate psychological symptoms

Sep 03 - Jun 05 - took Prozac to help with Paxil taper - not recommended

Jul 05 to date - post-taper, severe psychological, moderate physical symptoms, improving very slowly

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He struggled with depression all his life, and attempted suicide several times before Nardil withdrawal.

 

In the March 9, 2009 New Yorker, D. T. Max recounted David Foster Wallace's last days. Max gives enough detail that it's clear Wallace had withdrawal syndrome from Nardil and desperately sought treatment for 1.5 years from various psychiatrists who prescribed various drugs to which he had various adverse reactions, all of which are quite familiar to us.

 

Wallace had quit Nardil (under the supervision of a psychiatrist, of course) because he at last felt his life was stable, his marriage was working, and he was tired of the side effects of this very nasty MAOI.

 

Like you, Healing, I believe that had he known he was suffering from withdrawal syndrome rather than some exotic, impossible-to-treat new mental illness, he might not have killed himself.

 

I wrote to D.T. Max at the time of the New Yorker article but never heard back.

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Seems we have reading choices in common.. when drugged for years and in therapy as long I read many of the same books... Alice Miller Bradshaw...ect ect ect... all the self help section at a couple of major libraries. I was in a group a serious healing group all of us were on or had been on Ads and other psych drugs none of use knew any of the side effects fallout or how the drugs were affecting us ... we all sought help.  I was the queen of the books of intellectualizing everything of seeking understanding.  One may look back and see that as a huge waste of time where if we had all just tapered off our drugs most answer would have been found there... no matter how smart David Wallace was he did all this seeking reading and writing while drugged and as I look at this I can see the same patterns I am those in my groups enacted....

 

 

 

"A highlighted passage in Bradshaw On: The Family:

Thought Disorders:
You are always reading about your problems, learning why you are the way you are.
You are numb
You control your emotions and feel shame when you can’t
You gauge your behavior by how it looks–by the image you believe you’re making.

Wallace’s notes in Bradshaw On: The Family and especially in Alice Miller’s The Drama of the Gifted Child reveal a person who felt himself to be messed up totally and permanently. He felt particularly nailed and revealed to himself by the latter book, one in which he blames his mother for quite a lot of his suffering.

To say that Wallace took The Drama of the Gifted Child to heart is to put it very mildly indeed. He returned to it over and over again; his notes were made at many different times, in wildly differing sizes and styles of penmanship, states of mind.

 

I could produces boxes of writings and shelves of books ... 

that appear the same 

sadly he did not live to find the real answers... 

 

Now my thoughts turn to all those in all the groups of my past and I wonder if they ever learned their drug may be their problem. 

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Yes, I wonder all the "depression help groups I've been in..did they ever realise..peace

2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare!

 

On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect.

 

Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan.

 

 

Nightmare that could have been avoided!

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Love DFW. Glad to see him mentioned here on SA.

*I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience
**Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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Since learning about my own wd, I've often suspected that's why DFW eventually took his life. And Robin Williams. The pharmaceutical industry has blood on its hands from both these artists. Period.

*I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience
**Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not
-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014

-All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness.  It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage.  All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors 

-Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine

-Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey)

-Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011
-Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less)

-Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week

-Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs 

-First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened

-Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD.  Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed.  NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it.

-Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned
-Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia
-Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat
-Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged
-7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia

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  • 1 year later...

I was reading the last psychiatrist today and Altos posts again seems they are all over the net 

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/04/how_dangerous_is_academic_psyc_1.html#more

 

Then I came here to see what SA had to say about him and find my own post on the topic I also noticed he died 1.5 years into wd... that would be 17  months off close to the point I and some others hit a bad spot... I called it the 18 months it may have taken me awhile to get my sea legs and post about it... 

 

for me it was a time where things went bad following consistent improvement .. yes there were windows and waves but I could see I was headed out.. out of wd till the about the 18 month mark where things went bad and a deep negativity hit me along with many symptoms ...it stayed long and hard a good while maybe a few months without relenting but it did relent and thing became better... 

 

Before this 18 month mark I had a time where I was sure I would be healed completely in a few more months a year tops and Mean healed working having sex enjoying my life HEALED.. as I had been good I felt happy I was much more functional... before the 18 month hit... 

 

and we should talk about it cause...

 

if this is going to be a bad spot for some  people I think it would be a decent thing to tell them it can happen and that it does relent... it seems to me it does happen to enough people to at deserve a mention

 

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I started a thread called 18 months off and just searched SA for it both here and on Google it is not showing up was it deleted?  

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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