Sottana: Paxil withdrawal - questions and concerns

[Sottana]

@Colonialinteresting, I didn’t consider the dye. 
 

I was also wondering if these are effects due to the fact that I’m getting a more accurate dose now and my body actually needs to register that change. So confusing. 

[Colonial]

Red 40, Yellow 5 and Yellow 6 are among the most commonly consumed dyes.

They are the three most likely to cause an allergic response which leads one to wonder why they would continue to use them.

Yellow 5  has been shown to cause hives and asthma symptoms and people who have an allergy to aspirin seem to be more likely to also be allergic to Yellow 5.

I was highly allergic to yellow 5 and 6 when I was younger. I seem to have grown out of it, thank God.

 

If it continues and you think it likely to be an allergy you can switch back to the old pills.

Pain in the neck but it is what it is.

[Colonial]

Add Blue 1 to that allergy list.

 

[Longroadhome]

Hi @Sottana

im with Colonial here. It could just be new symptoms from tapering . 
it’s so hard sometimes and it’s all guess work we question ourselves constantly don’t we. 
thinking of you x

[Sottana]

@Colonial @Longroadhome  

 

thanks guys, I appreciate you both! I hope it’s just start-up effects and WD and nothing serious. Trying not to panic but having a tough time with everything so bad. 

[Longroadhome]

19 minutes ago, Adili13 said:

@Colonial @Longroadhome  

 

thanks guys, I appreciate you both! I hope it’s just start-up effects and WD and nothing serious. Trying not to panic but having a tough time with everything so bad. 

Hold for a little until things settle x

[Sottana]

@Longroadhome thank you 

[Sottana]

Will be going back to old 20 mg pills to make my 14.7 mg mixture as head pain, severe waves, and other issues haven’t let up. I’m pretty bummed as I wanted to just hold at a solid pill for a while, but it is what it is. Not sure what caused this as it’s supposed to be the same drug (maybe that I weighed the half of a ten and shaved a bit) but back to the 20’s I go. 

[Colonial]

If after you feel stable for a period, you can always "test" them again to see if the same reaction occurs.  Then you will know one way or another if it's just a wave from all the societal stress and or just the normal patterns of healing, or actually the different pill formulation. Feel better soon.

 

 

 

 

[Sottana]

Good idea @Colonial.very true!! 

[Longroadhome]

8 hours ago, Adili13 said:

Will be going back to old 20 mg pills to make my 14.7 mg mixture as head pain, severe waves, and other issues haven’t let up. I’m pretty bummed as I wanted to just hold at a solid pill for a while, but it is what it is. Not sure what caused this as it’s supposed to be the same drug (maybe that I weighed the half of a ten and shaved a bit) but back to the 20’s I go. 

Are you still continuing with your taper ? 

[Sottana]

@Longroadhome taking a break for a while now. Not sure how long.

[Longroadhome]

1 hour ago, Adili13 said:

@Longroadhome taking a break for a while now. Not sure how 

[Longroadhome]

You’ve done well @Sottana I’m proud of you x

[Sottana]

Can I leave my pill in water and let it dissolve overnight? 

[Colonial]

@brassmonkey.  That's a good question do "We" have an idea about this?

 

[brassmonkey]

That would be fine. It varies from medication to medication and is dependent on a lot of factors such as temperature and the like. In general you should soak it for at least four hours, more is better. I usually recommend over night or 24 hours. Keep it in a cool dark place while soaking and store the finished liquid in the refrigerator.

[Sottana]

@brassmonkey Thanks so much. I’m going to start doing this every night. 

[sunnysideup69]

Hope this solves your problem, @Sottana. God, it's so odd, this latest issue...I'm possibly with you on the 'body getting used to an accurate dose', or perhaps it's catch up symptoms and you need to hold. Hoping it all evens out sooner rather than later xxx

[Sottana]

@sunnysideup69 back on my old pills and liquid. Just couldn’t take the uptick. Hopefully it settles soon 

[Sottana]

I feel like I was doing much better while tapering and now I feel like total garbage. I wonder if this is the effect of cumulative drops or the effect of the drug itself. This stuff is so frustrating. 

[Colonial]

Some people just don't do well with the constant dose tampering every week regardless of how small it seems to be. Some do better making bigger drops but longer holds.

If your still having symptoms but dropping again 5 days later, you will probably just get worse.

The Brass monkey scale presupposes your symptom stable with LONGER HOLDS when necessary.

10 drops in 80 days may have been too much, even if the percentage drops were ok.

 

Paxil just stinks all the way around. 😔

 

[Sottana]

@Colonialall true, but I wasn’t stable after holding 9 months at a steady dose. Like I was worse than ever so just started tapering. I was doing pretty good for most of the taper until I decided to hold again. I kind of had a reaction to switching back to pills and now I’m really thrown off. It’s so weird. 

[sunnysideup69]

On 11/22/2020 at 7:24 PM, Adili13 said:

@sunnysideup69 back on my old pills and liquid. Just couldn’t take the uptick. Hopefully it settles soon 

 

I hope it settles for you, too. It's a total pain to be so reactive to different forms of the same medication. Wonder if the short half life of Paxil plays into that, at all?

 

1 hour ago, Adili13 said:

I feel like I was doing much better while tapering and now I feel like total garbage. I wonder if this is the effect of cumulative drops or the effect of the drug itself. This stuff is so frustrating. 

 

God, that's the frustrating thing. We just don't know. All we can do is ride out the wobbles. Sending good wishes, pal. 

[sunnysideup69]

PS Really like Colonial's idea. It's a great way to test it out.....

On 11/20/2020 at 10:55 PM, Colonial said:

If after you feel stable for a period, you can always "test" them again to see if the same reaction occurs.  Then you will know one way or another if it's just a wave from all the societal stress and or just the normal patterns of healing, or actually the different pill formulation. Feel better soon.

 

 

 

 

 

[Longroadhome]

@Sottana

You  know lots of times there’s just no rhyme or reason behind why we feel like we do and trying to connect it to something we’ve done or haven’t done. Our bodies are reacting to being on this drug and the changes it is having to make to compensate because we have decreased or made some other kind of change. Sometimes the body doesn’t react straight away . There can be a delay and so we associate  it with something else. It’s a mine field. 
a positive is you have been ABLE to decrease.
 

you are doing better than you think Adili . I have no doubt if you keep notes you will see this. 
Don’t  think of yourself as feeling worse think of it as the body fine tuning. 
 

Here is an affirmation courtesy of Baylissa Frederick

 

“I choose to accept and allow any symptoms, knowing that they are present only because my loyal and resilient body is healing” 

 

Repeat the statement 10 times and at least 10 times throughout the day. 

Thinking of you x
 

[Sottana]

@sunnysideup69 thanks sunny! I hope it settles soon. I haven’t been this bad in quite some time.

 

@Longroadhomethank you for that thoughtful message. I’m in bad shape and so afraid again. Just counting down the minutes and praying it ends somehow. Idk what happened, I was totally fine on my taper, then I switched it a different pill strength (but same dose) and everything went to hell. Thanks again for your words of wisdom. 

[Longroadhome]

@Sottana

maybe the drops have just caught up with you and you need to let it settle down . 
Paxil is a powerful drug. 
 

Keep occupied and try not to worry. Don’t over analysis ”why” because it could just be it would have happened anyway. 
you may have given your body a little jolt but you haven’t made big cuts and it will settle.

 

[Sottana]

@Longroadhome I’m definitely trying! You’re right though. It really could just be the drops. 
 

I have a new issue. I’m obsessing many tiny bubbles in my suspension every day. Is there anyone else using Ora plus to make a suspension that finds they have little bubbles that they can’t tap out? It’s very frustrating and adds to my obsession about accuracy in dosing which has plagued me all through this taper. 

[Longroadhome]

2 hours ago, Adili13 said:

@Longroadhome I’m definitely trying! You’re right though. It really could just be the drops. 
 

I have a new issue. I’m obsessing many tiny bubbles in my suspension every day. Is there anyone else using Ora plus to make a suspension that finds they have little bubbles that they can’t tap out? It’s very frustrating and adds to my obsession about accuracy in dosing which has plagued me all through this taper. 

My liquid suspension is full of bubbles Adili 

don't worry there’s no way round it the contents need shaking before taking .

[Sottana]

@Longroadhomei guess so, huh? It’s viscous so you can’t tap them out. Guess all we can do is accept. Thanks long. 

[Longroadhome]

11 hours ago, Adili13 said:

@Longroadhomei guess so, huh? It’s viscous so you can’t tap them out. Guess all we can do is accept. Thanks long. 

You won’t think about it after a while. It’s the WD brain 🧠 doing the thinking for you . Ignore. 

[sunnysideup69]

Hey @Sottana,

How are you doing? Sending a wave from London, bud. xx

[Sottana]

@sunnysideup69been struggling, my friend. Thanks for checking in xxx. How are you? 

[ChessieCat]

16 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Sending a wave

 

Adili would probably prefer that you sent a window, not a wave 🤣

[sunnysideup69]

9 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Adili would probably prefer that you sent a window, not a wave 🤣

@ChessieCat🤣🤣 - yes....taking that wave back and windowing at you, Adili