Leo1983 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hi as far as i am aware everybody who has been through withdrawal and got better had all those symptoms. There common. I also have/had them. May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Mirtazapine is something different I think. Every week there is something new. I cant keep my eyes open anymore because I now got this strange fatigue drugged feeling. Its like im still sleeping. Look at this and tell me mirtazapine doesnt cause brain damage. Everytime when people got this symptoms this happens. Im not a negative guy but I think this drug is something else, everyone who got this symptoms from it was in a very bad way. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
A14n Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 You're just scaring yourself and feeding the fear. 1996 prozac 20mg I 1998 Seroxat 2011 - 2016 citalopram 20mg 2016 fluoxetine upto 40mg for approx 10 weeks 2016 16th June - until 2018 7th March sertraline 50mg propranolol 10mg to take when needed) 2018 13th March - started mirtazapine 15mg, stopped 03/04/18 2018 2nd July reinstated sertraline 50mg. Started tapering October 2018. Straight swap from 25mg sertraline to 10mg citalopram 18/5/19 stopped 21/6/19 Link to comment
Mentor RichT Posted May 7, 2019 Mentor Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hi Gth, you're getting into a spiral of negative thinking. I’m very familiar with that pattern! Sometimes we shouldn’t believe our thoughts as they are excessively negative. Try framing some more positive thoughts. To help you: New symptoms appear at various times for many people including me. I have also also felt feelings of fatigue and sleepiness during the day, they are very common. Everything you have felt, many others have felt during withdrawal, and many people have recovered. best wishes Rich ✅ = medication taken now 2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg 2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅ 2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅2018 March Abilify 5mg 2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off 2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out 2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅ 2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg 2022 October began taper of Abilify Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 Its 24/7 now I cant function anymore. Im 5 months off and things keep getting worse. No windows. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
rupa Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 On 8 May 2019 at 5:49 PM, Gth27 said: Its 24/7 now I cant function anymore. Im 5 months off and things keep getting worse. No windows. Try reinstating low dose and taper slow.Atleast you will get some sooth.Read bhaaski, me etc. Being with patience is the key.Eat curds, rice, milk, turmeric. If I recovered at the age of 47,It's possible to you . Cold turkeyed risperidone (1m.g)and trihexyphenidyl combination drug out of ignorance,In August 2016 after one month use. Withdrawal symptoms settled at dreamful,disturbing sleep. Thus introduced to olanzapine for sleep.Started using olanzapine out of ignorance. Tapering olanzapine 10 m.g from February 2017. May 2018 :Still suffering dreams,Still tapering olanzapine at 0.625.100ml water+2.5 mg olanzapine. June 2018 22.5ml=0.57mg.July 2018 20ml,August 2018-17.5ml,September 2018-15ml,October 2018 10 ml,December 2018 7 ml, BrassMonkey slide method so far at lower doses.2 nd December cold turkeyed , only to reach minure doses as reinstatement to cutshort endless tapering process.4rth December started 1ml. Almost no symptoms and sleep is better,So started 0.5 ml from 17-12-2018. "0"from31-12-18.Re birth happened from 10- 2020,as rejuvenation took whole2019.Completely recovered now. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 I think reinstating is dangerous for me I never tolerated it. I think I got a toxic reaction. Normaal people dont get pailinopsia and delayed vision. Its something in the brain. I think many in withdrawal Will heal but there are some who got all the same symptoms and never get Windows. People with MS and Lyme also have palinopsia,memory problems. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Mirthazard Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Gth27 did you ever tested for Lyme? It could be that the first insomnia you ever had before even starting mirtazapine was and is being caused by borrelia or other co-infection. May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day. October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation. May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 I thought about it. They got the a lot of the same symptoms. But it would be very strange and coincidence because the severe symptoms started every time I tapered. And all the other people that have the same symptoms after ssri I dont think they have Lyme. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
VincentV Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I was on mirtazapine for about 6 weeks, I had anhedonia before then but if i recall correctly (and it is hard) my ability to connect emotion with memories seemed to disappear then. I can also relate to the depersonalisation, its a different kind of dissociative feeling (or non feeling). Very stange. I always liken taking mirtazapine to entering into a terrible blank white cloud. Those months after it, together with the sertraline withdrawal, were the worst ever. Since then I' still quite badly effected, but no where near as bad as that firsr hell. Hang in there. I'm still hoping for slow improvements. Citalopram. Briefly early twenties, no ill effects seemingly. Don't remember dose. Sertraline on and off for ten years. I was ignorant and started and stopped frequently. Doses of 50, 75 and 100. I can not recall/did not record dates prior to 2018. JANUARY 2018: Last period of use was was 150mg of sertraline on 14/01/18 (which triggered extreme depression and anxiety that never settled, amongst other symptoms). I then tapered to 100mg in March (15/03/18), then down to 75mg in April(01/04/18) , 50mg later (11/04/18) 25mg in May (16/05/18), and was at 0mg in June (02/06/18). Mirtazapine 15mg: 01/08/18- 02/10/18, 15mg (6 weeks at 15mg the two week taper). - caused deeply unpleasant waves of extreme anxiety, depression, zombie state and mania. Still on 40mg of Propranolol twice a day since April 2018. Supplements: Fish oil, Magnesium, Vit B6 Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 Thanks for your messages. @VincentV are your symptoms better in the evening? December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
VincentV Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Yes my symptoms are worse during the day and much improved by the evening. I wouldn't read too mch into that though, its an extremely common pattern for many people apparently. Not just in withdrawal but in non drug related depression and GAD too as far as I understand. Citalopram. Briefly early twenties, no ill effects seemingly. Don't remember dose. Sertraline on and off for ten years. I was ignorant and started and stopped frequently. Doses of 50, 75 and 100. I can not recall/did not record dates prior to 2018. JANUARY 2018: Last period of use was was 150mg of sertraline on 14/01/18 (which triggered extreme depression and anxiety that never settled, amongst other symptoms). I then tapered to 100mg in March (15/03/18), then down to 75mg in April(01/04/18) , 50mg later (11/04/18) 25mg in May (16/05/18), and was at 0mg in June (02/06/18). Mirtazapine 15mg: 01/08/18- 02/10/18, 15mg (6 weeks at 15mg the two week taper). - caused deeply unpleasant waves of extreme anxiety, depression, zombie state and mania. Still on 40mg of Propranolol twice a day since April 2018. Supplements: Fish oil, Magnesium, Vit B6 Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Its keeps getting worse day after day. I lost everything because I took mirtazapine for sleep. You cant get any help from anyone because they think you are crazy. I never had any troubles in 27 years and now I am crazy? I never saw anyone with depression who cant see good anymore,or hear good anymore, got pressure like your brains want to come out.Im so fatigued I cant even move and my eyes are heavy all the time. Like I took a lot of sleeping pills. I got no idea of which day it is or what time is. I cant get scared of excited or happy anymore.I forget things I did an hour ago. My children want to play with me but I cant even watch tv. They are everything to me and now I cant do nothing with them. I always was a good father but now I got to say no everytime they ask me something. No vacation,no days out. Its ******* hard they are so little and they dont understand. If something happens to me people think I was depressed or something, they will never know and believe I was poisoned. I cant hold it anymore and on top of that everybody is angry at me because they think I should man up and its all inside my head. We all know how this gonna ends. I know a lot of the people heal eventually but there are some cases with severe reactions and symptoms like me who didnt got any windows. I dont now what happens if I try any other ssri of try TMS or something but something need to happen right now because this is no live. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Are there any people out there who got severe withdrawal symptoms for months and reinstated a other ssri and got any better? I got to try something now because im about to lose everything. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted May 30, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 4:38 AM, Gth27 said: I think reinstating is dangerous for me I never tolerated it. I think I got a toxic reaction. Normaal people dont get pailinopsia and delayed vision. Its something in the brain. I think many in withdrawal Will heal but there are some who got all the same symptoms and never get Windows. People with MS and Lyme also have palinopsia,memory problems. Hi Gth27, And I'm sorry it is still so intense. Are you completely off the mirtazapine now, or on the 4.5 mg dose listed last in your signature? Any improvements in any of your WD symptoms? Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 No im off since december. Everything is a blurr since then. Everything is keep getting worse I am totally disconnected to the world. I dont know what to do anymore. Im in the same situation like a lot off other people but most with my symptoms are dead or they still have severe symptoms after a few years. I cant wait anymore. Reinstating mirtazapine isnt a option I think because I never functioned on it. I think I got a toxic reaction. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Hi Gth27 Can i reassure you when i stopped Escitalopram CT i experienced the exact same feelings. I could not be alone, as i felt like i had dementia. My memory was so bad when i answered the phone within seconds i forgot who i was talking too. I would walk outside of my house and feel as if the world was huge and i was just sat observing from a distance. I had the worst DP/DR. I know its scary and i know you feel that you are destroyed. Please be assured it has calmed down alot since then. I would say for several month i lived every day like a broken man. My life was so difficult. Im almost 1 year off and i feel alot better. Still not great but better. Keep the faith, learn about your illness and trust in the information provided. Fill yourself with positive stories!!!. I have personally spoken to a few of the people in the success stories. They are real and have walked this path before you! Lee. May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Yeah but im almost 6 months off and everyday im getting worse. I got this pressure in my head its hurts so much. My eyes are a big mess with al the afterimages,floaters cant track fast moving objects. My mind is blank and racing at the same time. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 im 12 month and still have head pressure and when in waves a blank mind. Its part of the process. I read very few success stories before 2 years. May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Can you still work? Its 24/7 for me now. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I have worked everday of my withdrawal apart from 1 week sickness. It has been beyond hard. My work has been very understanding. May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 I cant work anymore I am so fatigued I dont understand first I couldnt get tired. Now im feeling drugged all the time cant keep my eyes open. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 That happened to me too. insomnia for months. Then fatigue. only now at month 11 can i take a nap during the day and sleep all night. May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted May 30, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gth27 said: Are there any people out there who got severe withdrawal symptoms for months and reinstated a other ssri and got any better? I got to try something now because im about to lose everything. Hi Gth27, I moved your question entitled "Anybody who got very bad withdrawal and reinstated with another ssri?" back here to your introduction. Your mirtazapine is in a bit different class from the other ssri's. I don't know if you knew that. I imagine that there are many who go on and on with the merry go round of various AD's and other psychoactives. Most of them probably don't post much here anymore. We are more targeted for those who wish to taper and learn more about WD and then for support of course. We've got this discussion going: In finding meaning. Has anyone decided that it was best for them to stay on meds. indefinitely? If you want a lot of support around re-medication then there are other forums for that. The Nami National site for one. Patients like me. And other forums. They might not give any credibility to your WD, but if that's your choice, then that's okay. It does sound like you have been pretty darn sensitized now and were never told much about your drugs and the dependencies caused, and WD from. Many of us in the same boat, of lack of information from the get go. AND.....so many of the drugs are barely, if even, doing better than a placebo......when they finally get passed through the FDA(in the US anyway) for usage. And yah.....then the side effects or adverse reactions. It's awful. What do you mean.....you're going to lose everything. What are your natural supports on the ground? And maybe......just maybe a teeny tiny reinstatement might even work like a placebo. It's also kind of a catch 22 now too.......that if you go for re-medication expecting resolution, you may not tolerate other medications too well. 6 hours ago, manymoretodays said: Normaal people dont get pailinopsia and delayed vision What's pailinopsia and delayed vision? Do you wear corrective lenses? Have you seen an opthamologist? Yes, I had some subtle vision changes too. Under good control now. I don't think that, as Leo says, it always takes 2 years for all of us to improve.......each of us are really individual. I certainly felt and did better by 6 months or so........once I understood the whys of my state. Many of the symptoms of withdrawal syndrome arise from autonomic nervous system dysfunction. The distressed nervous system itself can generate intense uncomfortable feelings -- see Neuro emotions Non-drug coping can do miracles sometimes too. Kids Love non-drug, out of the box coping. Maybe you can find some skills to practice with your kids now. I mean I know it would be nice to just take a retreat, on your own, and get away from stress and all that seems so very overstimulating right now........and I'll give you a virtual retreat right now.......Ahhh, welcome to the spa.......retreat time. Also......sometimes.......it's best to limit time here if all you are seeing are negative outcomes........I mean just check in and read the good stuff.......what's helping others, etc............, as well as at other sites where folks may be focused on the damages, and toxicities and all. I think there is a mirtazapine/Remeron support type WD group on FB too. I wonder if that's supportive too? Have you been there yet? Okay. Hoping tomorrow you find one positive anything and some natural supports. Love, peace, healing, and growth, mmt Edited May 30, 2019 by manymoretodays Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
MMMM Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 @Gth27 how are you doing lately? - 2003 to 2015: celexa, 20 mg, ~12 years - 2015: easy switch off celexa and onto cymbalta, 30mg (over a decade of fantastic years in here, with one anxiety/depressive episode brought on by a breakup, which I got through with therapy, tools, etc) - 2017: Nov/December: tapered off cymbalta, 20mg --> 0, over 1.5 mo. in conjunction with my (former) psychiatrist. Zero date: 12/15/17 (I was just sort of curious to try being off meds after so many (great) years. I wondered the degree to which meds may have been affecting my sex drive/orgasm/access to deeper emotions. After going off was ok for about 3 mo... then: horrible anxiety, panic attacks (first time in 14 years and way stronger than I ever had before), agitation, suicidal depression, crushing physical sensation, anhedonia, dp/dr, emotional numbness. Horrible.) - 2018, July 21: Tried going back on celexa, 5mg (HORRIBLE adverse reaction, discontinued after 10 days, stopped 7/31/18, thought I would need to be hospitalized) - 2018, Aug 3: Tried remeron, got up to 15mg for 14 days, then tapered back down to 3.5 mg/d (super sedating, couldn't think and could feel even less) - 2018, Sept 7 - Oct: Restarted Cymbalta, ~4mg (sept 9, stopped the 3.5 mg of remeron). Went up to 13 mg Cymbalta, then right back down to 4.5mg. (Now see it as withdrawal and am wanting to get off and heal.) Link to comment
India Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 6:37 PM, Gth27 said: I cant work anymore I am so fatigued I dont understand first I couldnt get tired. Now im feeling drugged all the time cant keep my eyes open. @Gth27 Any update on your condition? Please see: Also, I reinstated 3.5 months into a CT withdrawal at a low dose. 1999: Paroxetine (20mg). Age 16. 2007-2008: Fluoxetine (Prozac) for 1.5 years (age 25) Citalopram 20mg 2002-2005, 2009: Escitalopram (20mg), 2 weeks, (age 26) (adverse reaction)/*Valium 5mg/Temazepam 10mg 2010: Mirtazipine (Remeron)( do not remember dosage) 2010, 5 months. 2010-2017: Citalopram (20mg) (age 27 to 34) 2016: i.1st Sept- 31st Oct Citalopram 10mg , ii.1st November 2017-30th November 2017, Citalopram 5mg iii.1st December 2017- 4th February 2018, Citalopram 0mg, iv.5th February 2018- March 2018 Citalopram 5mg (10mg every other day) 28th February- tried titration of 5mg ( some adverse effects) 2018: 1st March 2018- 1st June Citalopram 10 mg (tablet form) /started titration 8mg , then 7 mg.2018: June 15th- 10th July Citalopram 10 mg pill every other day 2018: 10th July - 13th Sept Citalopram- 0mg (CBD oil first month of 0mg, passiflora on and off) 2018 13th Sept Citalopram 2mg , approx 16th Sept 4mg , approx 25th Sept 6mg held. 2019: 11 Feb 19: 7mg (instant bad rxn) 12 Feb 19 6mg held 1 May 19 5.4mg held 5 Oct 19 5.36mg 22 Oct 19 5.29mg 30 Oct 19 5.23mg 4/NOV/19 5.18mg 12 Nov 19 5.08mg 20 Nov 19 4.77mg 7 May 22 2.31mg 17/09/2023 0.8mg (Herbal/Supplements since 1st September: Omega Fish Oil 1200mg, 663mg of EPA- 2 tablets a day, magnesium and magnesium bath salts) I did not die, and yet I lost life’s breath - Dante Link to comment
Guest Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Hello Leo, Hope you are feeling better. Trying to recover from Mirtz after being off 4 months. Hope you can offer some encouragement. Thanks! Link to comment
Gth27 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I dont know whats happening. After a few good months its like Im back in acute withdrawal. I keep throwing up I cant eat, I got severe fatigue and cant do anything. Also tinnitus and hyperacusis is back like the first time I stopped. Even metallic taste in my mouth is back. I only get this when I first stopped cold turkey. Im off almost a year how is it possible I get acute withdrawal symptoms. Im very scared because last time I had this I didnt make it and went back on the mirtazapine. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Gth27 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 I dont believe this. Every symptom which I had when I quit cold turkey is back. Last time it was about 3 weeks that those symptoms appears. This time it appears after one year off. It started with very hard tinnitus then I got nausea and severe fatigue and metallic taste in the mouth I couldnt even watch television that time so I know whats coming now. Even in the same order like the first cold turkey but now after a year. Only this time I cant reinstate anymore im one year off now. How the **** is that possible? Withdrawal was very hard this time but I was able to do most things. Another thing which was the same this time is that I really felt good the last few weeks and then crashed really hard. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Gem92 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hello. How are you doing now? I too have had a bad experience with Mirtazapine and I'm still on it. But I have also been on the other worst drugs possible. Lexapro, Ativan and Zyprexa. You were only on one drug so please do not lose hope! You will be okay! Gemma92's signature(now Gem92) (added in by mod mmt 4/23/22) 90s and 2008:Prozac for a year 2016:ADHD drug for a few months CT 2017:Right thyroid removed. May-June 2018: Lexapro 10-20mg. July 4th 2018 Lex CT and took Penicillin, Z-pack. August 2018: 3rd antibiotic and Effexor for 5 days CT. September 2018: Lexapro 5mg (CT after month) Ativan 1-.5mg(CT after 2 weeks) and Hydroxyine 50mg (2 weeks) SEVERE REACTIONS AND SEVERE WITHDRAWAL October 2018: Ashwahganda 2 weeks, Probiotics 2 weeks. Mirt 15mg 6 days CT Oct- Nov 2018: gaba gummies, cbd oil, magnesium. December 2018: Mirt 7.5mg, 15mg, 30mg, Zyprexa 2.5mg, 5mg for 1 week back to 2.5mg. 4th antibiotic used. Hydroxyine. Jan 2019: Mirtazapine 26.5mg. Different brands used when hospitalized. Hydroxyine. Feb 2019: Mirtazapine 22.5mg, 15mg. Zyprexa 2.5mg CT. Prozac 1 pill, Trazadone 4 pills, Hydroxyine few pills, INJECTED with steroids, antibiotics and pain killers for 2 days. Took high doses of benadryl a few times, few more pain killers June 2019: Mirt 14.5mg-13.5mg Sept 2019: 13mg, 12mg, sep 25th 11 mg. 4/22/22- 6.3mg (Tapering between 2 and 3% every 2 weeks). 11/27/2022- 5.4mg 1/8/23- 5.25mg 1/30/23-5.2mg 2/22/23-5.15mg 3/10/23-5.1mg 4/4/23-5.05mg 4/16/23-5mg Link to comment
Gth27 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Its like im back in acute withdrawal just when I stopped the first time and reinstated. I cant think I keep throwing up and terrible insomnia. Songs looping in my head all the time. I was able to go out all this time but since last few weeks its like I been in acute, I cant take this again. I want to do things with my family like a normal father would. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 you still on the drug? May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 you are 12 month drug free? May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 waves and windows May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 Im one year off the drug I never get any windows but now its like im back in acute withdrawal. Cant move,cant think,cant eat,songs in my head 24/7. So its gonna be a nice Christmas. Cant live like this anymore,thinking about starting something like prozac or something else. I must be able to function or else I Will lose my family. This mirtazapine is a very nice drug. Everybody who’s getting trouble with this drug dies or are disabled. I never even was depressed. The doctor told me this drug was safe and not addictive. Very nice. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
A14n Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I am the same getting worse for 19 months was on mirtazapine 3 week's. Ct then went back on original antidepressant sertraline after 3 months on nothing. I can't think, music looping random thoughts. Hardly move... Just been put on venlafaxine which isn't helping I don't know what to do anymore 1996 prozac 20mg I 1998 Seroxat 2011 - 2016 citalopram 20mg 2016 fluoxetine upto 40mg for approx 10 weeks 2016 16th June - until 2018 7th March sertraline 50mg propranolol 10mg to take when needed) 2018 13th March - started mirtazapine 15mg, stopped 03/04/18 2018 2nd July reinstated sertraline 50mg. Started tapering October 2018. Straight swap from 25mg sertraline to 10mg citalopram 18/5/19 stopped 21/6/19 Link to comment
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