Asi1309 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 hours ago, manymoretodays said: Hi Asi1309, Updates? How have you been doing since late August? Improvements? Any non-drug coping that has worked for you well? Oh so hoping to hear of good relief or progress in your healing. L, P, H, and G, mmt Unfortunately no change in the akathisia Thanks for asking btw, it's nice of you CIPRALEX 10MG(M) TAB (Escitalopram): 29/01/2014-08/05/2016 VIEPAX 37.5MG TAB (Venlafaxine): 08/05/2016-26/06/2016 PRIZMA TAB (Fluoxetine Hydrochloride): 26/06/2016-18/08/2016 ELATROL 25MG TAB (Amitriptyline Hydrochloride): 18/08/2016-05/01/2017 WELLBUTRIN XR 150MG (M) TAB (Bupropion-Wellbutrin): 05/01/2017-16/01/2017 WELLBUTRIN XR 300MG (M) TAB (Bupropion-Wellbutrin): 16/01/2017-05/2018 SERTRALINE TEVA 50MG TAB (Sertraline): 29/05/2017- SERENADA 50 MG TAB (Sertraline): 03/07/2017-16/07/2018 ARIPLY 5MG<><>(28) TAB (Aripiprazole): 17/06/2018-24/06/2018 BRINTELLIX (M) 10MG TAB 28 (Vortioxetine): 24/06/2018-16/07/2018 CLONEX 0.5 MG TAB (Clonazepam): 29/05/2017-16/07/2018 when needed not constant May 2018 cold turkey: SERENADA 50 MG TAB, WELLBUTRIN XR 300MG TAB, SERTRALINE TEVA 100 MG TAB. June 2018 - partial reinstatement: ARIPLY 5 MG TAB, BRINTELLIX 10 MG TAB, SERENADA 50 MG TAB. July 16 2018 - cold turkey again. October 4 2018 - reinstatement: SERTRALINE TEVA ~ 0-25 MG TAB Overall: 29/01/14 - 16/07/18 + 27 days >>>> 4 years, 6 months, 1 week, 6 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted December 30, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hi Asi1309, Oh man, sorry to hear that. I am. Sending some healing and improvements for you, as much as I can......hopes. L, P, H, and G, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Nivsch Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 @Asi1309how much % from fat do you consume every day? I realized I have to increase much the fat intake and it resloved my physical restlessness. 2010-2015 Cipramil 20-40mg. half-year break in the middle which was tough. 2015-2020 Venlafaxine 150-225 mg. Venlafaxine duloxetine cross taper details 150 for half-year then 225 for a period than stabilized in ~187.5 (1.25 pills) for 2 years than reduced to ~168.5 (1.125 pills). 3.2020 - Duloxetine 60mg. 19.05.2020 - started to taper - 59! 20.5 - 58.5. June 2020: 57. end of June - 55.5 Summer 2020: 5.7 - 54, 9.7 - 52, 12.7 - updose to 53+, 19.7 - 52.3, 26.7 - 51.8, 4.8 - 51.3, 11.8 - 50.8, 15.8 - updose to 51.0, 17.8 - 50.5, 19.8 - 50.3, 19.9 - 49.3 Autumn-winter: 7.10 - 46.8, 1.12 - 45.8, 17.12 - 44.4, 30.12 - 42.4, 21.1 - 40.8. 17.2 - 40.1, end of feb - 38.6, spring: mid march updose to 40.1, 28.3 - 38.6, 15.4 - 37.5, 14.5 - 36.8, end of may 37.5+ and after a week 39 Summer 2021: mid of june again to 36.7, end of july 39.5. 11.10.2021 - 40.7 📌 Link to comment
Asi1309 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Nivsch said: @Asi1309how much % from fat do you consume every day? I realized I have to increase much the fat intake and it resloved my physical restlessness. A lot Unfortunately akathisia wise it's not much of an help... CIPRALEX 10MG(M) TAB (Escitalopram): 29/01/2014-08/05/2016 VIEPAX 37.5MG TAB (Venlafaxine): 08/05/2016-26/06/2016 PRIZMA TAB (Fluoxetine Hydrochloride): 26/06/2016-18/08/2016 ELATROL 25MG TAB (Amitriptyline Hydrochloride): 18/08/2016-05/01/2017 WELLBUTRIN XR 150MG (M) TAB (Bupropion-Wellbutrin): 05/01/2017-16/01/2017 WELLBUTRIN XR 300MG (M) TAB (Bupropion-Wellbutrin): 16/01/2017-05/2018 SERTRALINE TEVA 50MG TAB (Sertraline): 29/05/2017- SERENADA 50 MG TAB (Sertraline): 03/07/2017-16/07/2018 ARIPLY 5MG<><>(28) TAB (Aripiprazole): 17/06/2018-24/06/2018 BRINTELLIX (M) 10MG TAB 28 (Vortioxetine): 24/06/2018-16/07/2018 CLONEX 0.5 MG TAB (Clonazepam): 29/05/2017-16/07/2018 when needed not constant May 2018 cold turkey: SERENADA 50 MG TAB, WELLBUTRIN XR 300MG TAB, SERTRALINE TEVA 100 MG TAB. June 2018 - partial reinstatement: ARIPLY 5 MG TAB, BRINTELLIX 10 MG TAB, SERENADA 50 MG TAB. July 16 2018 - cold turkey again. October 4 2018 - reinstatement: SERTRALINE TEVA ~ 0-25 MG TAB Overall: 29/01/14 - 16/07/18 + 27 days >>>> 4 years, 6 months, 1 week, 6 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes. Link to comment
Nivsch Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Eliminate completely for 1.5-2 months: 1. Wheat 2. Soy 3. All Legumes 4. All Grains 5. Nightshade vegetables 6. Nut 7. Seeds 8. Dairy and processed foods as much as you can. After 1.5 months - eat back only one at a time in a small quantity and wait 5 days to see what happens. During the elimination period compensate with healthy fats (avocado, salmon, olive oil, coconut oil etc) and caloric dense fruits like fresh dates, (very) ripe bananas with black dots on it, canistal, dried plums soaked 8 hours on water. 2010-2015 Cipramil 20-40mg. half-year break in the middle which was tough. 2015-2020 Venlafaxine 150-225 mg. Venlafaxine duloxetine cross taper details 150 for half-year then 225 for a period than stabilized in ~187.5 (1.25 pills) for 2 years than reduced to ~168.5 (1.125 pills). 3.2020 - Duloxetine 60mg. 19.05.2020 - started to taper - 59! 20.5 - 58.5. June 2020: 57. end of June - 55.5 Summer 2020: 5.7 - 54, 9.7 - 52, 12.7 - updose to 53+, 19.7 - 52.3, 26.7 - 51.8, 4.8 - 51.3, 11.8 - 50.8, 15.8 - updose to 51.0, 17.8 - 50.5, 19.8 - 50.3, 19.9 - 49.3 Autumn-winter: 7.10 - 46.8, 1.12 - 45.8, 17.12 - 44.4, 30.12 - 42.4, 21.1 - 40.8. 17.2 - 40.1, end of feb - 38.6, spring: mid march updose to 40.1, 28.3 - 38.6, 15.4 - 37.5, 14.5 - 36.8, end of may 37.5+ and after a week 39 Summer 2021: mid of june again to 36.7, end of july 39.5. 11.10.2021 - 40.7 📌 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 4, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 4, 2021 @Nivsch, it may be more helpful for you to post in the exclusion diet topic in Symptoms and Self-Care. The diet you propose may not be appropriate for Asi. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Asi1309 Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Nivsch said: Eliminate completely for 1.5-2 months: 1. Wheat 2. Soy 3. All Legumes 4. All Grains 5. Nightshade vegetables 6. Nut 7. Seeds 8. Dairy and processed foods as much as you can. After 1.5 months - eat back only one at a time in a small quantity and wait 5 days to see what happens. During the elimination period compensate with healthy fats (avocado, salmon, olive oil, coconut oil etc) and caloric dense fruits like fresh dates, (very) ripe bananas with black dots on it, canistal, dried plums soaked 8 hours on water. I've been on the best diet of my life for the past 2.5 years... Although it did helped a bit with the withdrawal, it does little to nothing to akathisia. We must not forget that withdrawal and akathisia aren't just nutritional deficiencies, they are chemical toxins and body disturbances. We don't need to be scientists to see that our bodies and mind are *****. I think it's dishonest to call it just withdrawal, normal withdrawal from substances doesn't feel like that, this feels like if your body was a motherboard and someone would change the transistors recklessly, and pour vegetable oil while it's running, and then smash it with a hammer. I can't even describe it with words, it's like someone entered the operation system of my body and soul my brain, and just sinnly just did this Frankenstein experiment and twisted everything, If there is something that deeply echoed the message in every inch of my bones and soul, about the limit and insanity of men This is it. I'm an experiment gone wrong The lab rat is my brain and self This is just a sin Feel like something the nazis would've experimented with. The mind itself. CIPRALEX 10MG(M) TAB (Escitalopram): 29/01/2014-08/05/2016 VIEPAX 37.5MG TAB (Venlafaxine): 08/05/2016-26/06/2016 PRIZMA TAB (Fluoxetine Hydrochloride): 26/06/2016-18/08/2016 ELATROL 25MG TAB (Amitriptyline Hydrochloride): 18/08/2016-05/01/2017 WELLBUTRIN XR 150MG (M) TAB (Bupropion-Wellbutrin): 05/01/2017-16/01/2017 WELLBUTRIN XR 300MG (M) TAB (Bupropion-Wellbutrin): 16/01/2017-05/2018 SERTRALINE TEVA 50MG TAB (Sertraline): 29/05/2017- SERENADA 50 MG TAB (Sertraline): 03/07/2017-16/07/2018 ARIPLY 5MG<><>(28) TAB (Aripiprazole): 17/06/2018-24/06/2018 BRINTELLIX (M) 10MG TAB 28 (Vortioxetine): 24/06/2018-16/07/2018 CLONEX 0.5 MG TAB (Clonazepam): 29/05/2017-16/07/2018 when needed not constant May 2018 cold turkey: SERENADA 50 MG TAB, WELLBUTRIN XR 300MG TAB, SERTRALINE TEVA 100 MG TAB. June 2018 - partial reinstatement: ARIPLY 5 MG TAB, BRINTELLIX 10 MG TAB, SERENADA 50 MG TAB. July 16 2018 - cold turkey again. October 4 2018 - reinstatement: SERTRALINE TEVA ~ 0-25 MG TAB Overall: 29/01/14 - 16/07/18 + 27 days >>>> 4 years, 6 months, 1 week, 6 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes. Link to comment
Nivsch Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 How do you feel?? 🧡 Improving? 2010-2015 Cipramil 20-40mg. half-year break in the middle which was tough. 2015-2020 Venlafaxine 150-225 mg. Venlafaxine duloxetine cross taper details 150 for half-year then 225 for a period than stabilized in ~187.5 (1.25 pills) for 2 years than reduced to ~168.5 (1.125 pills). 3.2020 - Duloxetine 60mg. 19.05.2020 - started to taper - 59! 20.5 - 58.5. June 2020: 57. end of June - 55.5 Summer 2020: 5.7 - 54, 9.7 - 52, 12.7 - updose to 53+, 19.7 - 52.3, 26.7 - 51.8, 4.8 - 51.3, 11.8 - 50.8, 15.8 - updose to 51.0, 17.8 - 50.5, 19.8 - 50.3, 19.9 - 49.3 Autumn-winter: 7.10 - 46.8, 1.12 - 45.8, 17.12 - 44.4, 30.12 - 42.4, 21.1 - 40.8. 17.2 - 40.1, end of feb - 38.6, spring: mid march updose to 40.1, 28.3 - 38.6, 15.4 - 37.5, 14.5 - 36.8, end of may 37.5+ and after a week 39 Summer 2021: mid of june again to 36.7, end of july 39.5. 11.10.2021 - 40.7 📌 Link to comment
Ebee12058 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 6:43 AM, Nivsch said: Eliminate completely for 1.5-2 months: 1. Wheat 2. Soy 3. All Legumes 4. All Grains 5. Nightshade vegetables 6. Nut 7. Seeds 8. Dairy and processed foods as much as you can. After 1.5 months - eat back only one at a time in a small quantity and wait 5 days to see what happens. During the elimination period compensate with healthy fats (avocado, salmon, olive oil, coconut oil etc) and caloric dense fruits like fresh dates, (very) ripe bananas with black dots on it, canistal, dried plums soaked 8 hours on water. @Nivsch How would you recommend doing an elimination diet if you are intolerant of all oils (Omega 3 oils make me anxious, Omega 6, like vegetable, make me instantly depressed), & I'm a vegetarian? I'm struggling with a lot of food sensativity issues that cause anxiety & depression, but I find I'm starving ALL THE TIME if I eat only vegetables, fruit, & plain quinoa. And I don't feel I'm getting enough protein without soy & protein shakes, although I do think I'm having a reaction to soy. It's so bad I'm thinking of seeing a dietician. Thanks for your help. 2004-2012 Lexipro 15 mg (CT'd 4 times during this period. Not sure exact dates). Dec 2014-June 2017 Lexipro 15 mg CT WD agitation, Anhedonia from kindling while taking Feb 2018-Oct 2019 Lexipro 15mg, more severe Anhedonia while taking, CT WD depression May 2020- Sept 2020 Wellbutrin 300mg, OCD, anxiety, while taking, CT, WD anxiety, depression Dec 2020 Wellbutrin 150mg 3 days stop CT WD anxiety, depression, suicidal durations (seemed to stop once drug out system) Dec 2020 Buspirone 10mg 2.5 weeks, extreme severe Anhedonia while taking, Anhedonia stopped once stopped buspirone, WD cycling anxiety, depression, suicidal ideations Jan 2021 Reinstated Buspirone 5mg 1 month, tapered from 5mg to 1.25mg, experienced severe Anhedonia while taking, WD anxiety, depression, hyperarousal, photophobia, headaches, hyperacusis, early waking. Link to comment
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