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14 hours ago, eymen23 said:

Alanmane

 

Dado el estrés emocional de perder su trabajo (y potencialmente injustamente), y también beber una gran cantidad de alcohol junto con tomar una droga recreativa, puede ser razonable mantener su dosis hasta que las cosas se alivien. 

 

Estoy seguro de que lo sabes, pero cuando tu cuerpo contiene alcohol y cocaína, se produce una sustancia química aún más peligrosa conocida como cocaetileno. Es un químico tóxico y hace que la combinación de drogas sea mucho más peligrosa en términos de riesgo de muerte súbita, etc. El cocaete también tiene una vida media más larga que la cocaína, lo que significa que su cuerpo puede tardar un tiempo en recuperarse.

 

No soy una persona para dar conferencias, pero quiero que seas plenamente consciente de los riesgos. Por favor cuida de ti mismo. 

Thank you for worry.

 

I've been stupid and irresponsible, I just did not think about what I did and fell into impulses, when I'm anxious I usually act in this way, so I'm going to start therapy next month, I think there are many things in me that I do not understand. I feel embarrassed and after what happened with my work I do not feel well although I am doing everything that touches to solve my life.

 

I hope that this night of partying does not cause me great problems, at the moment I have two bad days and I am sure that it has to do with the consumption of alchol and cocaine.

 

Deep down I think I do not value my life or who I am.

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Arturo

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Ánimo, Alanmane. Con respecto a tu noche de fiesta, lo hecho hecho está. No le des más vueltas e intenta no volverlo a repetir. Si ha sido algo puntual seguramente te recuperes pronto.

 

Y sigue peleando que de esto se sale. Un abrazo.

 

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Come on, Alanmane! About your party night, it is done, you cannot change it. Don't think too much about that and try to not doing it again. Since it has been something exceptional, I am sure you will recover soon.

 

Keep fighting and you will leave this. Strong hugs.

 

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ChessieCat

We all make mistakes.  The important thing is to learn from our mistakes and not do it again.

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HI A ,I want to offer my support to you.

You seem to be tuned into why this happened ,this is a good thing .

Keep understanding the anxiety and how it controls you.

Im sober from being a long time binge drinker ,I know how you are feeling .

.nurture your kind soul mate.

Youve no choice but to distance yourself from anyone that is involved in this lifestyle.trust me its the wrong path.

Im with you in spirit my friend.

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Alanmane

After my unfair and ruthless dismissal where I worked, I made the decision to finish my studies becauseI have only five subjects left, this apart from helping me find a better job, it will help me use my mind again and check that it works although now it feels hypoactive and with low energy.

 

I'm sure I can do it and I need to prove it. Also since the party last week in which I consumed alchol and cocaine, I have contracted acute tonsillitis and I am taking antibiotics and nolotil, I have read that in many people it causes a worse depressive state although being sick is in itself not very stimulating.

 

I have thought about whether I will continue with my tapper when I start studying or stay at 37.5mg +34 pearls, I suppose I'll see but I do not want to risk losing the second attempt to finish my course.

 

The first I had to stop for acute WD when taking venlafaxine every three or four days.

 

Life goes on and it is relentless.

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Alanmane
On 13/3/2019 at 9:30, Arturo said:

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Ánimo, Alanmane. Con respecto a tu noche de fiesta, lo hecho hecho está. No le des más vueltas e intenta no volver a repetir. Si ha sido algo puntual para que te recuperes pronto.

 

Y sigue peleando que de esto se vende. Un abrazo.

 

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¡Vamos, Alanmane! Acerca de tu noche de fiesta, está hecho, no puedes cambiarlo. No pienses demasiado en eso y trata de no hacerlo de nuevo. Como ha sido algo excepcional, estoy seguro de que se recuperará pronto.

 

Sigue luchando y dejarás esto. Abrazos fuertes

 

Thanks for your message, it was something punctual, nothing more. I appreciate your heart support

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On 13/3/2019 at 10:43, powerback said:

Hola A, quiero ofrecerte mi apoyo.

Parece que estás atento a por qué sucedió esto, esto es algo bueno.

Sigue entendiendo la ansiedad y cómo te controla.

Estoy sobrio de haber bebido en exceso durante mucho tiempo, sé cómo te sientes.

Nutre a su alma gemela amable.

No tiene más remedio que distanciarse de cualquier persona involucrada en este estilo de vida. Confíe en que es el camino equivocado.

Estoy contigo en espíritu mi amigo.

Hi PB, I have read your message now and I thank you from my heart, I congratulate you for being sober for so long, I also took refuge in marijuana to relieve depression and I thought I was doing the right thing. I was so wrong Life is better being awake and attentive even if the damned WD hits (and what is not WD). A fellow hug and keep fighting.

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On 13/3/2019 at 10:18, ChessieCat said:

Todos cometemos errores. Lo importante es aprender de nuestros errores y no volver a hacerlo.

This is it. ❤️

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powerback

You ok AM .

Keep that kind soul of yours safe .

Take care.

 

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Alanmane

An update: since I left my job I feel that my life is going downhill, I feel confused and above all undecided, it is difficult for me to make decisions with security and it is something I hate.

 

When I was unfairly dismissed from my job, my state of anxiety led me to sign up to finish a course that I had to leave a year ago, I can only take an online course because I plan to continue working, the fact is that I do not feel motivated or with concentration to study a year in solitude via online, I think I wanted to force me to do the best but I have no strength, now I can get another job and learn to tattoo, which is something that motivates me.

 

If I stop studying I will feel that I have failed, if I choose to study I will have a bad time because I am not in a good moment (I am almost 37.5mg of effexor from 150mg). Constantly being fragile and without vulnerability, I devalue myself and I do not love myself.

Maybe what's under the mask of antidepressants is chaotic. I can only define my situation as fear to live and to myself.

Luckily I do not suffer from anxiety, I sleep enough hours, as well ...

 

I'm just scared and lost.

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Cnick91

What you are feeling is normal from being unemployed. Unfortunately unemployment leaves a lot of time to think. Ruminating about the past and future is what causes depression/anxiety. You just need to breath and live in the moment. Start meditating if you haven’t already. The racing thoughts wear us down. Because our CNS is so fragile, our stress response is overly active, which takes a toll on our minds. The brain fog, negative emotions, fatigue/burn out, etc. are all related to an overly reactive stress response. Just remember thoughts are just thoughts, nothing more. If you feel that you can’t do the class right now then don’t do it. That’s okay, it doesn’t make you a failure. You’re a young guy, you have time. Opportunities will come your way, it’s only up to you to decide if they are right for you. You still have 40+ years to work, save money for retirement, and do all that. Right now the focus is to calm down and focus on getting better. You want off the Effexor, so that’s the goal right now. If you decide against the schooling and want to become a tattoo artist then do it. Is tattooing something that you can see yourself doing for the rest of your life and will it be able to fund your lifestyle? Or maybe tattooing could be something to fill the void in the interim. Are the perks/benefits of becoming an artist worth it to you? That’s only up to you to decide and I do realize making choices like this are extreamly difficult when your mental faculties are not working correctly. That’s why I stress meditation and breath work. It will rewire your brain and the way you make decisions in a positive manner. It’s an uphill battle and changes won’t happen overnight, but like everything else persistence is the key. You will be alright my friend.

 

Also, I do realize I always repeat the same things over, but what I’m doing is reenforcing the idea that everything is going to be okay. You will feel better someday and hopefully you at least try some of the things I have recommended. Keep in mind healing isn’t linear, but also life isn’t linear. There will always be bumps in the road, but once you overcome your current adversities those bumps will feel like nothing. You are learning a lot about yourself through this difficult time and once you reach the other end you will have mastered every aspect of who you really are. The mind is more powerful then most people can grasp. The people that take control and master their thought processes become the most resilient immune beings on this earth. I promise you Alan, that is the key to life. Believe in yourself, be gentle to yourself, love yourself, nurture yourself, and you will come out on top.

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Alanmane
17 hours ago, Cnick91 said:

Lo que sientes es normal por estar desempleado. Desafortunadamente el desempleo deja mucho tiempo para pensar. Reflexionar sobre el pasado y el futuro es lo que causa la depresión / ansiedad. Solo necesitas respirar y vivir el momento. Empieza a meditar si aún no lo has hecho. Los pensamientos de carrera nos agotan. Debido a que nuestro sistema nervioso central es tan frágil, nuestra respuesta al estrés es demasiado activa, lo que hace mella en nuestras mentes. La niebla cerebral, las emociones negativas, la fatiga / agotamiento, etc. están relacionadas con una respuesta de estrés excesivamente reactiva. Solo recuerda que los pensamientos son solo pensamientos, nada más. Si sientes que no puedes hacer la clase en este momento, entonces no lo hagas. Eso está bien, no te hace un fracaso. Eres un chico joven, tienes tiempo. Las oportunidades vendrán en tu camino, solo tú decides si son adecuadas para ti. Aún tienes más de 40 años para trabajar, Ahorra dinero para la jubilación, y haz todo eso. En este momento, el enfoque es calmarse y concentrarse en mejorar. Quieres quitarte el Effexor, así que esa es la meta ahora mismo. Si decides no ir a la escuela y quieres convertirte en un artista del tatuaje, hazlo. ¿Es el tatuaje algo que puede verse hacer por el resto de su vida y podrá financiar su estilo de vida? O tal vez el tatuaje podría ser algo para llenar el vacío en el ínterin. ¿Las ventajas / beneficios de convertirse en un artista valen la pena para ti? Depende de usted decidirlo y me doy cuenta de que tomar decisiones como esta es extremadamente difícil cuando sus facultades mentales no funcionan correctamente. Por eso hago hincapié en la meditación y el trabajo de respiración. Volverá a cablear tu cerebro y la forma en que tomas decisiones de manera positiva. Es una batalla cuesta arriba y los cambios no sucederán de la noche a la mañana. Pero como todo lo demás, la clave es la persistencia. Estarás bien mi amigo.

 

Además, me doy cuenta de que siempre repito lo mismo, pero lo que estoy haciendo es reforzar la idea de que todo va a estar bien. Te sentirás mejor algún día y, con suerte, al menos intentarás algunas de las cosas que te he recomendado. Tenga en cuenta que la curación no es lineal, pero también la vida no es lineal. Siempre habrá baches en el camino, pero una vez que superen sus adversidades actuales, esos baches se sentirán como si nada. Estás aprendiendo mucho sobre ti mismo en este momento difícil y una vez que llegues al otro extremo, habrás dominado todos los aspectos de quién eres realmente. La mente es más poderosa de lo que la mayoría de las personas pueden captar. Las personas que toman el control y dominan sus procesos de pensamiento se convierten en los seres inmunitarios más resistentes de esta tierra. Te lo prometo Alan, esa es la clave de la vida. Cree en ti mismo, sé amable contigo mismo, ámate a ti mismo,

I am extremely grateful for your message, you are great.

 

I do not know how to respond to your comment, but I will try. I am sure that much of the anguish comes from the non-acceptance of reality, it is difficult to live with low life energy and I tend to believe that it will not go better or that the damage is already done, this is pure anxiety and fear and I understand that the most realistic thing is that I end up healing.

 

It is also a fear of failure, of not getting out of this, a lot has to do with my character and personality influenced by AD in my early youth, I lack tools and therefore I will start doing psychotherapy or at least try to find a good therapist. About the course, it is true that I wanted to be demanding and that is not good, right now I do not feel comfortable doing it and yes with the tattoo, I love to draw and create and I am sure that taking advantage of my talent in tattooing is a good option , that's why yesterday I bought all the material and I feel a new motivation for it, I just need to believe in myself and love me more, these two points are key and I find it hard to put them into practice, even though I'm working on it.

 

I have seen many times a strong and strong character and I can return to it although now I feel very far away, I would like to decipher the keys to achieve it and I hope that going to therapy helps me, there is so much that one can not see ... , about mastering my thoughts, is something that right now is difficult because with the brain fog I hardly realize what I think, I do not think much really, maybe it is a defense mechanism but I have few thoughts and unclear, unclear, when lack of cognitive energy is like this, maybe this is better than having many negative and intrusive thoughts, you will reach the point of thinking clearly.

 

By the way, I've seen your thread and you have the icon here comes the sun, I'm glad that you're coming out of this, I'm sure you must be very motivated, it's hard to believe that the healing does not come? Many congratulations and a big hug.

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Alanmane

Next week I'm going to start therapy (try my luck to see if I can find a good therapist), I have some mistrust since helping me understand WD meanwhile I see it as impossible.

 

Even I, who am living it, can not understand it, literally my mind is not sharp nor my thoughts, beliefs, ideas are clear, so right now it seems almost absurd. Perhaps in a while the emotions are enlightened and with them the clear thoughts, for the moment I live in the plain of the anhedonia and the absurd. If I can not find meaning and think, there is no motivation.

 

I find this experience strange, I feel like relevant information escapes my conscience, the basic things I can do but those complex tasks that define my being and my true self are not there. Even with this hell, I'm handling it and holding on, since almost a year ago I reduced effexor from 150mg and now to 20 pearls of 37.5mg.

 

There are clear improvements, not everything is a drama, but I miss my capacity for concentration and memory, my mental acuity and confidence in my ability to think. I will continue fighting, no matter when time is hard, or I find recovery or I will spend the rest of my days as a slave of what the sick social system has done in my being.

 

I hope it is the first situation.

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Alanmane

Update:

I'm still struggling with what I imagine is WD and my being unaccustomed to living with low doses of effexor, I've started a new job in a nursing home and work 12 hours, it's really hard in itself and if I add brain fog , stress and everything that I think is the result of abstinence, the result is living a complicated situation.

 

Lately I feel that I have little conscience and I am blocked, I feel disconnected from myself and the world, I simply exist and this causes me anguish and fear because I do not know how long it will last, if it will improve or if it will always be that way. It is terrifying.

 

Yes, it may be soft and I lack character, I do not come to this place to cry and to seek consolation, I want to leave a record all the way in order to mark the world with one more experience coming out of this drug crap. I stay with what many say, time is the best ally, I just can not solve complex problems if I do not have mental energy, I am not able to reason complexly and it is curious that when I smoked marijuana and took 150mg I could do it, it seems ironic .

 

I know this will end in any way, but it will end.

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Cnick91

Your feelings are normal. You’re not going crazy and there is nothing wrong with you. You have anxiety, depression, and an unstable nervous system. It’s an uphill battle, but if you create the right conditions neuro-plasticity will change your brain functioning for the better. It also takes a long time for this to happen but it will as long as the conditions are right. Start taking those cold showers and breathing like I told you. It will help resolve a lot of your issues. Hang in there my friend.

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Alanmane
18 hours ago, Cnick91 said:

Tus sentimientos son normales. No te estás volviendo loco y no hay nada de malo en ti. Tienes ansiedad, depresión y un sistema nervioso inestable. Es una batalla cuesta arriba, pero si creas las condiciones adecuadas, la neuro-plasticidad cambiará el funcionamiento de tu cerebro para mejor. También toma mucho tiempo para que esto suceda, pero siempre que las condiciones sean las adecuadas. Comienza a tomar esas duchas frías y respira como te dije. Te ayudará a resolver muchos de tus problemas. Aguanta ahí amigo mío.

Thank you for your support friend, I trust that over time everything will improve, there are things that go better but depression is present and I fear that it is because of lowering the dose. About cold showers and breathing, it is something positive and sometimes I do it if I remember, I feel scattered and forgetful. Let's keep working on this. A hug

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Alanmane

Update:

 

I'm close to reaching 37.5mg, only 13 pearls and I'll have arrived. I still have doubts without an answer, maybe I'll end up giving them time but it's going to take a long time to reach conclusions

 

. At the moment although I am stable and better than ever I have been taking higher doses, I also do not feel well, I feel insecure because of brain fog (poor concentration, short-term memory, slow thinking, blank mind, few ideas, difficulty to remember what I learned ..), emotionally it is not very good either, although I do not get to be in crisis, I just feel scared, worthless and scared of myself, I can not appreciate the positive thing that is in me, I think deep down I think I'm worth nothing and nobody deserves to love me. I know that not everything is WD, I can not accept that all this experience is only due to having less effexor in my body. I know that if I manage to overcome this and recover my lucidity I will be incredibly strong, I just hope that this arrives

 

. About my working life, I have been working for a month in a new job where I work 12 hours a day in a nursing home. It is exhausting but seeing that I can do it well even in my situation encourages me. I will also start psychotherapy next week, I have spoken with the psychologist and he has told me that he is specialized in traumas and EMDR. I distrust this method out of ignorance and if I do not see it clearly, I will dispense.

 

I hope you are well and continue going to light.. 

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2 hours ago, Alanmane said:

I know that if I manage to overcome this and recover my lucidity I will be incredibly strong, I just hope that this arrives

 

Hola, Alan,

 

Yes, when you overcome this and regain yourself, you will be so, so incredibly strong. You are worthy of love and good things--your withdrawal-impaired brain is telling awful lies. Please hang in there. 

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18 hours ago, SkyBlue said:

 

Hola Alan

 

Sí, cuando superes esto y te recuperes, serás increíblemente fuerte. Eres digno de amor y cosas buenas: tu cerebro con problemas de abstinencia está diciendo horribles mentiras. Por favor aguanta ahí. 

Hi! 

 

I hope yes.. This is amazing, super confusing. I'm working everyday for me. Thanks. 

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Today I do 27 years, today a year ago I started to reduce Effexor.

 

I have gone from 150mg to 37.5mg now, the road is not easy although I can tolerate it, I have been in hell several times and this does not seem anywhere near it.

 

I know that we should not be in a hurry but my desire is to get to the next year free of this drug, I want to forget everything related to depression, antidepressants, fear, insecurity, pain, absurdism ... I also want to congratulate all the people who are fighting for your life, you are all warriors.

 

 

One Love.

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Asta

Happy Birthday! 🌹

I wish you all your dreams come true.

Patience, strength.

One day all the windows will open to us!   

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On 2/5/2019 at 17:19, Asta said:

¡Feliz cumpleaños! 🌹

Te deseo todos tus sueños hechos realidad.

Paciencia, fuerza.

¡Un día nos abrirán todas las ventanas!   

Thank you!!! I hope yes.. 

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On ‎5‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 2:02 PM, Alanmane said:

Today I do 27 years, today a year ago I started to reduce Effexor.

 

I have gone from 150mg to 37.5mg now, the road is not easy although I can tolerate it, I have been in hell several times and this does not seem anywhere near it.

 

I know that we should not be in a hurry but my desire is to get to the next year free of this drug, I want to forget everything related to depression, antidepressants, fear, insecurity, pain, absurdism ... I also want to congratulate all the people who are fighting for your life, you are all warriors.

 

 

One Love.

Happy birthday Am .

Yep don't be in a hurry with this evil drug.please don't take chances and keep it slow .

The fact your working 12 hours a day ,total kudos to you .

Take care.

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9 hours ago, powerback said:

Feliz cumpleaños am

Sí, no tengas prisa con esta droga malvada. Por favor, no te arriesgues y mantente lento.

El hecho de que estés trabajando 12 horas al día, te felicita.

Cuídate.

Thanks PB, I'm keep going in this hard step, with patience and perseverance...a huge. 

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I'm at 37.5mg + 7 pearls, from here I'll reach 37.5mg shortly and I plan to wait for a while and see that my WD improves, I have a year of constant WD and although much milder than if I had gone fast, it is exhausting .

 

At this point I work 12 hours a day in a job that requires physical effort and mental speed, in many moments I feel blank and forget things but still keep the job and I think I do it well (work in a nursing home).

 

I realize that I have a lot of insecurity and I confuse the effects of abstinence with who I really am, as I perceive myself forgetful, not very concentrated etc ... My mind believes that I am that way. I will start to try EMDR therapy with a psychologist, I am willing to experiment if it can be useful, I focus on memory and right now I have a cloudy mind, I do not have access to many forgotten processes of my past, even so I will try.

 

I only hope to destroy the fear I have for myself, fear is the killer of the mind.

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Hello friends of S. A. I want to thank you greatly that you keep this forum active, it is perhaps the best tool that a person who wants to leave these drugs can have, there are no words to define the good that is done here.

I am infinitely grateful to have found S. A, I am sure that without you I would not be where I am now. I take and record my current situation, I want a time from here, when I read my thread and is cured I can see all the mistakes and potholes I went through: I admit that for months I have drunk alchol occasionally, sometimes too much without ever reaching states serious, this I did yesterday already by habit as pleasure by the disinhibition. I know it's not good and I have to stop although somehow I do not see that it's important once a week to have a couple of beers. Lately I feel worse and hours after drinking I feel bad. I still work 12 hours and it's really hard, I'm looking for a kinder job with my current situation.

I can comply although I feel that it takes away a lot of energy. About my sexuality, after years under the effects of antidepressants, I feel that I have a lot of sexual energy and sometimes it is difficult to control, there are also days after reducing that is the opposite.

 

In my next dose reduction I will reach 37.5mg and I hope to keep that dose for a few months to check that I stabilized and my life improves, lately I feel more myself although dazed and with brain fog, feels the energy low.

 

The fighting continues.

A hug.

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Altostrata

Good to hear you're doing better, Alan. Please keep in touch!

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I have decided to leave my job for 12 hours, it is too hard and it does not compensate me right now, I can find better jobs for me. I also feel more clearly than ever that the hours before taking my dose of effexor I feel much better than after taking the drug, after using the dose I feel lethargic and with less energy, more sleep and a thicker mind. A part of me tells me to go faster by reducing and another tells me it's a mistake. I'm just tired of feeling bad every time I take the pill and I clearly get better when it's been hours since I took it, it's clear that it does not help me and only makes my health worse. I know that I should not reduce faster especially after a year of constant WD, but I am very fed up with this, I hate how I feel under the effects and I hate abstinence although it ends up disappearing, the effects of effexor when ingesting the pill every day repeat.

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Altostrata

Hello, Alan, what time of day are you taking venlafaxine?

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Alanmane
10 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Hola, Alan, ¿a qué hora del día estás tomando venlafaxina?

Hello Alto, I take it at midmorning, maybe I could keep delaying the dose until I take it at night so during the day I would be more free from the effects. It's a good idea?

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Yes, very good idea. Don't make a sudden change in schedule, take it an hour later each day until you are taking it in late evening. You should feel better in the daytime, you may be able to go back to work, which will help you feel more normal.

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On ‎5‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 10:12 PM, Alanmane said:

Hello friends of S. A. I want to thank you greatly that you keep this forum active, it is perhaps the best tool that a person who wants to leave these drugs can have, there are no words to define the good that is done here.

I am infinitely grateful to have found S. A, I am sure that without you I would not be where I am now. I take and record my current situation, I want a time from here, when I read my thread and is cured I can see all the mistakes and potholes I went through: I admit that for months I have drunk alchol occasionally, sometimes too much without ever reaching states serious, this I did yesterday already by habit as pleasure by the disinhibition. I know it's not good and I have to stop although somehow I do not see that it's important once a week to have a couple of beers. Lately I feel worse and hours after drinking I feel bad. I still work 12 hours and it's really hard, I'm looking for a kinder job with my current situation.

I can comply although I feel that it takes away a lot of energy. About my sexuality, after years under the effects of antidepressants, I feel that I have a lot of sexual energy and sometimes it is difficult to control, there are also days after reducing that is the opposite.

 

In my next dose reduction I will reach 37.5mg and I hope to keep that dose for a few months to check that I stabilized and my life improves, lately I feel more myself although dazed and with brain fog, feels the energy low.

 

The fighting continues.

A hug.

Keep an eye on the drinking over the next year or 2 when you reduce further ,you could fall into a trap of self medicating with drink .

You can tell your a kind soul by how you explain your life and journey .nourish this part of you in your future .

Be very conscious when your libido is high and drinking Alcohol ,this could be a toxic mix for trouble .

Be safe AM 🤝 

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Alanmane
2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Sí, muy buena idea. No haga un cambio repentino en el horario, tómelo una hora más tarde cada día hasta que lo tome por la noche. Debería sentirse mejor durante el día, puede volver al trabajo, lo que lo ayudará a sentirse más normal.

Thank you, Alto, I'm going to do that. About my work I will find a better one for me, maybe tomorrow's job interview is the answer. I will tell my experience when taking effexor at night, it sure goes well.

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Hace 1 hora, powerback dijo:

Hi PB, thanks for your words. Sometimes it is easy to give in to the momentary satisfaction of a couple of drinks or easy sex but in the long run only causes dissatisfaction, I have the determination not to touch the alchol for a long time, I have been a few months drinking occasionally, sometimes little alcohol and others quite, always the descent of the effect makes me feel bad and now with two beers it happens to me the same, after the euphoria comes the depression. Not worth it. I hope you are better PB, you are a good virtual support :)

 

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Alanmane
El 15/5/2019 a las 21:20, Alanmane dijo:

 

I have reached 37.5mg, now I plan to wait a long time to stabilize and give me time to recover after months of constant WD. I tried to delay my time of taking effexor but it did not feel good, too stimulating at bedtime so I will continue taking it in the mornings.

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