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Tom37

Thanks everyone....not sure why I posted at 2am but I guess it was just a distraction from how i was feeling for those few moments and when your feeling that bad you will do anything.

 

Actually not at work today so doing a little bit from home and just taking care of myself. Probably the first time in 6 months that I have had to take a day off due to wd. I’m normally able to battle through a work day but at the moment it’s just too much. I’m hoping this monster wave is the end of these symptoms that have be plaguing me for the last 6 weeks.

 

While I know waves do pass a big one like this rams home how bad wd can be and what it potentially can take from you because if I’m like this for another couple of weeks then working could really be over with.

 

Trying to look back at all previous waves and how they passed especially a big wave where I could nt sleep at all for four nights in a row and then when out of it was sleeping normal again. Just hope that this is only at its peak for a few days like that was.

 

Maybe the bigger the wave the bigger the healing.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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mdwstrx

Hi Tom.

First, I'm really sorry to hear that waves continue to persist. It sounds like you've not stabilized fully yet if you've been experiencing waves while holding at the same mg since last year.  Is that accurate? 

Md

 

 

 


2002 Escitalopram 20 mg.

11/18 Tapered to 2.5 mg/Dr. advised stopping 

11/18 Reinstated - up-dosed to 7.5 mg

3/19 Stabilized

4/19 Began BM slide

Current 2.1 mg. 🌼

 

Heal me, LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise. Jer 17:14

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wantrelief
4 minutes ago, Tom37 said:

Maybe the bigger the wave the bigger the healing

I wish I could remember where I've seen this stated but it appears to be true for some folks.  I am hoping it is the case for you!  


-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium glycinate; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg

2020: 1/14/20: 10.89 mg (1.27% drop); 1/22/20: 10.75 mg (1.29% drop); 2/28/20 toe surgery; 4/26/20: 10.62 mg (1.21% drop); 5/3/20: 10.5 mg (1.22% drop); 5/10/20: 10.4 mg (1.24% drop); 5/17/20: 10.2 mg (1.25% drop); 6/7/20: 10.10 mg (1.27% drop); 6/14/20: 9.98 mg (1.19% drop); 6/21/20: 9.85 mg (1.30% drop); 6/28/20: 9.7 mg (1.22% drop); 7/12/20: 9.6 mg (1.23% drop); 7/19/20: 9.5 mg (1.25% drop); 7/26/20: 9.4 mg (1.26% drop); 8/2/20: 9.3 mg (1.28% drop); 8/17/20: 9.14 mg (1.19% drop); 8/31/20: 9.0 mg (1.31% drop); 9/6/20: 8.9 mg (1.22% drop); 9/27/20: 8.8 mg (1.23% drop); 10/4/20: 8.7 mg (1.25% drop); 10/11/20: 8.6 mg (1.27% drop); 10/18/20: 8.5 mg (1.28% drop)

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Tom37

Hi @mdwstrx nope not stabilised as yet. Still holding my dose until I do. All my early  symptoms have gone - and there were heaps of them,  I just can’t get to feeling ‘normal’ consistently yet. Think it shows how bad my crash was as I was an absolute mess in the beginning. Definitely wasn’t expecting to still be in this situation a year later but not much I can do about it. I believe I am healing it’s just taking so long. I’m glad your doing good.

 

 Thanks @wantrelief these type of waves have been quite common all the way through for me but was expecting they  would become less intense further along I went but not to be yet. Who knows why waves can be so intense but I hope your right about the healing afterwards.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Tom37

Half way through the day and it hasn’t gotten any better. Really is a minute by minute day and have spent most of those minutes horizontally on the couch. Can’t even watch tv or anything as just in too much discomfort......every other wave and symptom have gone so have to believe these will too. 


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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mdwstrx

You've had some good and long windows so yes, I think you're healing too.  You're wise not to rush a reduction if you're not stable.  After I first started to taper again, I tried a 10% reduction on the BM slide.  It was too much too soon and put me  back into a bad wave for a month.  Take your time. You're body will tell you when if you listen.  💜


2002 Escitalopram 20 mg.

11/18 Tapered to 2.5 mg/Dr. advised stopping 

11/18 Reinstated - up-dosed to 7.5 mg

3/19 Stabilized

4/19 Began BM slide

Current 2.1 mg. 🌼

 

Heal me, LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise. Jer 17:14

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Tom37

Thanks @mdwstrx I shall be waiting for a good while after I’m stable to start tapering as my nervous system clearly took a hammering. Yes I have had good periods and my partner thinks I’m significantly better compared to when this first happened so I know I have healed but must be still a way to go. It’s these big waves that totally knock your confidence and then they trigger my own anxiety a bit. May even be years before I do taper. Your very brave to keep tapering knowing what serious wd feels like. Hopefully it carries on being a smooth ride for you.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Tom37

Got through the day and probably one of the toughest ones yet and all I did was lie on the couch. Just couldn’t do anything else really and thought why fight it. Plenty of doubts about this ever stopping and being able to resume a normal life.

 

Just wish I knew what my body was actually trying to adjust or heal making me feel like this. 

 

Hopefully I get some sleep tonight if my body allows it.....waves always come to an end!


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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sunnysideup69

Yes they do. I've also been very up and down over the last two weeks....just after saying I was stabilising....it's going to level out for you again. I agree, horrible when symptoms seem to come back, or new ones occur. I think you're wise to take the day off and just hit the sofa. I do a lot of that also. Rest is good. I'm hoping to be stable by next August, a year after swapping, but we just never know.

My brain seems to need peace and quiet, are you the same?

This wave will come to an end, Tom. Trust your brain and nervous system. They know what to do and are doing it for you. 


January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

 

 

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Tom37

Thanks @sunnysideup69.

 

I think not doing much was the best thing to do. Why push yourself when feeling so bad as can’t be doing you any good. 

 

I’m naturally an introvert so definitely need my piece and quiet, even before withdrawal I needed it. 

 

Try not to put a timeline on stabilising as only setting yourself up for failure as the brain will get there when it gets there. In the beginning I thought I would just have to endure this for max 12 months as that was the longer end of the time it took for a lot of people but here I am. Maybe I was naive in thinking that because I was in such a bad state when I crashed but it was all new to me and it gave me hope and a target to get to. Maybe healing will speed up in the next 6 months for me but somehow I think it’s going to be a long slow slog to get there although apparently everyone gets there eventually.

 

Have a good day.

 


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Tom37

Got 6 to 7 hours sleep so thankful for that. Was shattered last night and symptoms  had calmed down enough to allow sleep. Feeling better than yesterday but still not well but at least should be up and about. Hopefully it’s a good sign but until these current symptoms go then think there is going to be alot of ups and downs.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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sunnysideup69
1 hour ago, Tom37 said:

Got 6 to 7 hours sleep so thankful for that. Was shattered last night and symptoms  had calmed down enough to allow sleep. Feeling better than yesterday but still not well but at least should be up and about. Hopefully it’s a good sign but until these current symptoms go then think there is going to be alot of ups and downs.

Hooray for the sleep! 


January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

 

 

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rola

@Tom37

Hi, Tom. Hi. 
I too was struck by insomnia, but I reassure you it doesn't last long. 
I who liked to take naps, I couldn't do any more but now everything is back to normal and I do it almost every day.
glad you could get some sleep. 😉


Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Tom37

Thanks @rola and @sunnysideup69. Was definitely a better night so hopefully tonight is the same. 

 

Definitely felt better today and current wave symptoms at about a 5 or 6 compared to 9 or 10 yesterday. Hopefully it means it’s easing but have a feeling I haven’t yet seen the last of this cycle with more bumps to come. 

 

Managed to go into office for couple of hours to get stuff out of the way then a small walk and generally taking it easy has been today. Hoping tomorrow is better even if just a little.

 


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Tom37

But of a restless nights sleep but still got around 5 plus hours. Was wide awake when to bed probably as had 7.5 hours the night before which is unusual for me. A few vivid dreams that woke me but at least not bad ones.

 

Still feeling the same symptoms this morning and similar to yesterday in intensity so should be a doable day although was hoping for better.

 

Have had the thoughts this morning that this will never end and will never be free from symptoms etc so dealing with that. Im sure a period of feeling better will change that but like always it is so hard to believe that it will ever happen.

 

Still breathing so while there is life there should be hope.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Tom37

Definitely a tough day mentally today. Horrible thoughts keep coming up such as ‘’I’m going to die’’ or ‘’ that’s it I will have to resign from work tomorrow, I’m finished’’ and have a low level horrible restless/agitated physical feeling in me which is out of nowhere as haven’t had something like this for a long time. Also at times when I get these thoughts in my mind I kind of have a reaction like if I was spread up against the wall in fear of my life...like a gun being pointed at me....then I question if it’s me or wd which makes it even worse yet never in all my anxiety/panic days have I ever had thoughts like that or physical feelings like it....hopefully it’s only very temporary.....really need a window to come to give me back some positivity as feels like I’m stuck big time especially after feeling a lot better.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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RuuRee

@Tom37 so sorry you are dealing with this. The way you described what you are feeling is exactly how it feels, like someone is holding a gun at your head. I know it’s hard, but try and remind yourself that it’s just the withdrawal, and it’s only temporary. Heck, you should try laughing at it and say wow this is stupid I feel like this, this isn’t me (this is something my therapist suggested). Don’t know if that’ll work for you but I’ll suggest anything to help. I hope you feel better soon! 


Lexapro: 2013 - mid August 2019 (20mgs, to 10 mgs for 1 week then 0mgs)

Zoloft: March 2018 - ? (200mgs - unsure of duration, around 2-4 weeks maybe; down to 100 mgs for 1 month, 50 mgs for 1 month; reinstated 20 mgs Lexapro shortly after)

Wellbutrin: mid August 2019 - mid September 2019 (150 mgs then CT)

Xanax: 2015 - December 9th 2019 (.25 to .5 mgs), as needed

 

Prozac: early October 2019 - present (20 mgs for 6 weeks, to 40 mgs on 11/24/2019)

Klonopin: December 10th 2019 - present (.25 to .5 mgs), as needed 

Magnesium Glycinate: 200 mgs, daily

Vitamin D3: 5000 IUs/125 mcgs, daily 

Levothyroxine: 88 mcgs, daily

Multivitamindaily 

Loratadine (antihistamine): 10 mgs, daily  

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Tom37

Thanks @RuuRee.

 

Anyway got through the day. Bit of a gentle walk this morning  then went for a drive this afternoon for a few hours with my partner. Good to distract myself if I can otherwise just sit and dwell on symptoms.

 

Still feeling not great but it’s better than Friday that’s for sure. Same set of physical symptoms just lesser intensity but mental ones worse. Definitely the wave causing the mental stuff today but always makes you second guess yourself.

 

Partner thinks once I get through this difficult period there will be good improvement as seen it happen before when I have gone into slumps like this which has waves within the wave. 

 

Sometimes though days are just plain hard. I could read or watch success stories all day today but soon as I stop my stupid brain will still think this wave will never end and will never ever get over this.

 

Also finding acceptance hard at the moment and think that is because I was feeling so much better.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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Tom37

Saw this on us on one of the pages on here and it is so true....feel like I’m on that boat trying to get to the other side to climb back up. Wish I was further along but doubt it.

 

 

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20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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rola
1 hour ago, Tom37 said:

Vu cela sur nous sur l'une des pages ici et c'est tellement vrai ... j'ai l'impression d'être sur ce bateau essayant de passer de l'autre côté pour remonter. J'aimerais être plus avancé mais j'en doute.

 

 

2017-06-06-PHOTO-00000315.jpg

@Tom37

hello ,this pattern is so true... it made me smile this morning.
it represents well what we are living that is why we must keep hope 
have a good day 


Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Tom37

Definitely is @rola....just impossible to know where your at.

 

So another 5 or 6 hours sleep last night. Took a while to fall asleep as head was feeling weird. Wasn’t painful but yeah just weird wd feeling. Thought this wave may have been starting to ease as felt better this morning but no such luck as same symptoms came on again on drive in to work. Still at medium intensity so able to function and work but definitely not easy and not performing at my best but doing enough to get by. 

 

At least it’s another day down which is another day less I’ll have to go through this unless of course it’s never ending....yip my stupid wd brain can’t help but think that.

 

Just so bizarre that still getting new symptoms a year out when in waves. Body must have been totally out of sorts at the start to need all this healing. Try to be positive in that all other symptoms have come and gone but they just seem to get replaced by something else so have given up for now to think I’ll be symptom free anytime in the next 6 months.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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thelegend

@Tom37 - I think you may be closer than you think, but if not, I will be here for you as I don’t think I am anywhere close. Still having crazy anxiety every day. Hope this week brings a break from the wave!


April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs).

April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to...

June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs

August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety

November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly.

New Doctor reinstated:

May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa 

 

 

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sunnysideup69
5 hours ago, Tom37 said:

Definitely is @rola

 

At least it’s another day down which is another day less I’ll have to go through this unless of course it’s never ending....yip my stupid wd brain can’t help but think that.

 

Yes, when my brain isn't telling me that this is a relapse, it's also telling me that this will never end.

Your poor WD brain is pedalling as fast as it can. Mine too. Another day closer to stability. Gosh, it's hard work, but just gotta keep on keeping on.

One foot in front of the other. Hope you have/ are having/ have had a better day.....good that you were able to function at work. I know it's hard when feeling crap, there are certain people I absolutely have to avoid as they just grate on my nerves.


January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

 

 

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Tom37

So the last two days have gotten quite a bit better so I may be transitioning back to baseline from this 6 week wave that I have been going through. Still feeling some of the same symptoms that I have been having but a lot less and sometimes almost not there at all.i

 

Will just wait and see I guess over the next week to see where I end up as after a nasty wave does take me some time to come out of it.....but it’s wd and could be back in hell tomorrow.

 

Thanks 


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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@Tom37, this is good news, hopefully you are coming out the other side now 😊 


January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

 

 

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rola

@Tom37Hi, Tom. 
That's good news. Don't drop anything. 😉


Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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sunnysideup69

Hi @Tom37, how are you doing? 


January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

 

 

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getofflex

Hey Tom just wanted to say your doing a great job of getting off this very powerful Lexapro.  I myself have been on Lexapro for years, and am struggling to get off of it.  I also had a harder time as I got to the lower doses.  Lots of emotions, partly my own emotions and neuroemotions as well.  I'm going to hang in there and keep tapering off.  I am choosing to have faith that my nervous system will gradually heal itself, and I'll become more stable as time goes on.  So, hang in there, and don't give up.  


Lexapro   April02 - Aug17: 10 mg,  ***  Aug17 - Sept17: 5 mg ***  Sept17 - Nov17:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov17: 0 mg, ***   Dec17 - Aug18: 5 mg  ***    Aug/1/18 - Aug/30/18: 2.5 mg     *** Sep/1/18 - Sep/27/18:  1.25 mg. ***   Sep/28/18 - Oct/31/18:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov/1/18 - Nov/15/18: 1.25 mg  ***   Nov/16/18 - Nov/30/18: 2.5 mg  ***   Dec/1/18 - Dec/27/18: 2.0 mg (switched to liquid)  ***    Dec/27/18 - Jan/31/19: 1.5 mg ***    Feb/1/19 - Feb/20/19: 1.0 mg  ***  Feb/21/19 - Mar/7/19: 0.5 mg  ***  Mar/8/19 - May/03/19: 0.8 mg ***   May/04/19 - May/13/19 0.7 mg ***  May/14/19 - May/24/19 0.6 mg *** May/25/19 - June/05/19. 0.5 mg *** June/06/19 - July/19/19 0.4 mg. ***  July/20/19 - Sep 14 2019 0.3 mg.  ***  Sep 15 2019 - Oct 21 2019 0.27 mg. *** Oct 22 2019 - Jan 18 2020 - 0.23 mg. *** Jan 19 2020 - April 1 2020 0.2 mg  ***  April 2 2020 - July 15 2020 0.18 mg *** July 16 2020 - August 22 0.17 mg, August 23 -- Oct 6 0.16 mg, Oct 7 - present 0.15 mg

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19 

When I cannot go to sleep, I take Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mag. in AM 1/2 hour before breakfast with 24 ounces water

supplements AM: omega 3 fish oil, flax seed oil, natural multivitamin, vitamin C, vitamin E

supplements PM: Natural Calm magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, 5-HTP 50 mg. Estroven Sleep Cool and Calm (contains black cohosh 40 mg, soy isoflavones 56 mg) melatonin 3 mg

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Thanks guys....so out of that wave that I was in and I guess at current baseline at the moment. Still have symptoms and it’s just how I currently ‘feel’ as in not feeling bad but not normal just somewhere in between. Mentally I’m generally myself it’s just how I feel physically. 

 

Sometimes i I think I feel better after that last big wave and sometimes I don’t as feeling different. It just seems to move from one thing to another. I guess it’s hard to know as improvement is so slow and subtle but looking back 6 months ago then yes I’m definitely doing better.

 

Been working fine as functional but not doing too much more than that and walking mainly as busy with work and try to rest as well. Sleep has been 5.5 to 6 hours with usually no wakings. 

 

Just so frustrating as sometimes I feel so close to being ‘normal’ yet in reality I’m so far away. Plenty more waves to come I’m sure. Grateful im not suffering like a lot of us are or like I have done but still do at times struggle with accepting this situation and believing that I will recover.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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sunnysideup69

Hey @Tom37, it is frustrating, but you are getting there. It's an irritatingly slow process at times. 


January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

 

 

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Hello Tom37.  I'm in about the same situation you are except I've been in a wave since the 3 day visit from my son.  Any upheaval in my schedule seems to bring on a wave for me.  At any rate, I'm glad you are doing better now that you were 6 months ago.  I'm praying for your healing.  Jennifer


Lexapro   April02 - Aug17: 10 mg,  ***  Aug17 - Sept17: 5 mg ***  Sept17 - Nov17:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov17: 0 mg, ***   Dec17 - Aug18: 5 mg  ***    Aug/1/18 - Aug/30/18: 2.5 mg     *** Sep/1/18 - Sep/27/18:  1.25 mg. ***   Sep/28/18 - Oct/31/18:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov/1/18 - Nov/15/18: 1.25 mg  ***   Nov/16/18 - Nov/30/18: 2.5 mg  ***   Dec/1/18 - Dec/27/18: 2.0 mg (switched to liquid)  ***    Dec/27/18 - Jan/31/19: 1.5 mg ***    Feb/1/19 - Feb/20/19: 1.0 mg  ***  Feb/21/19 - Mar/7/19: 0.5 mg  ***  Mar/8/19 - May/03/19: 0.8 mg ***   May/04/19 - May/13/19 0.7 mg ***  May/14/19 - May/24/19 0.6 mg *** May/25/19 - June/05/19. 0.5 mg *** June/06/19 - July/19/19 0.4 mg. ***  July/20/19 - Sep 14 2019 0.3 mg.  ***  Sep 15 2019 - Oct 21 2019 0.27 mg. *** Oct 22 2019 - Jan 18 2020 - 0.23 mg. *** Jan 19 2020 - April 1 2020 0.2 mg  ***  April 2 2020 - July 15 2020 0.18 mg *** July 16 2020 - August 22 0.17 mg, August 23 -- Oct 6 0.16 mg, Oct 7 - present 0.15 mg

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19 

When I cannot go to sleep, I take Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mag. in AM 1/2 hour before breakfast with 24 ounces water

supplements AM: omega 3 fish oil, flax seed oil, natural multivitamin, vitamin C, vitamin E

supplements PM: Natural Calm magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, 5-HTP 50 mg. Estroven Sleep Cool and Calm (contains black cohosh 40 mg, soy isoflavones 56 mg) melatonin 3 mg

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thelegend

Good to hear you are pulling out of the wave, and better than 6 months ago is still better, even if the difference isn’t what you were hoping for!


April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs).

April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to...

June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs

August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety

November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly.

New Doctor reinstated:

May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa 

 

 

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Tom37

And back into a wave I go....wonderful.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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jozeff

Top bad Tom,

 

Die you deel the wave creeping up on you or did it slowly Enter your body?

 

How much lexapro are you taking these days? Still on 4 mg?

 

Keep your head up and hopefully your wave isn't too bad!

 

 

Jozeff


- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

- Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

- April 2018 -  June 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

- June 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 weeks, felt absolutely awful.

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). Try to stabilize.-

START TAPER 29 apr 2019 @ 18 mg,    29th Jun 16.4 mg / 19th aug 15.4 mg / 25th Aug 15.2 mg / 30th sep 14.0 mg / 4th dec 13.1 mg2020 citalopram taper approx 1 % per week: 03rd Jan 12.75 mg / 28 Jan 12.29 mg / 18th Feb 11.83 mg, 25th Feb 11.68 mg hold../7th May 11.33 mg hold, 4th Aug 10.98 mg. Holding because of not feeling well.

 

 

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Sorry for my misspelling..... Keyboard problems..

 

 


- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

- Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

- April 2018 -  June 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

- June 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 weeks, felt absolutely awful.

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). Try to stabilize.-

START TAPER 29 apr 2019 @ 18 mg,    29th Jun 16.4 mg / 19th aug 15.4 mg / 25th Aug 15.2 mg / 30th sep 14.0 mg / 4th dec 13.1 mg2020 citalopram taper approx 1 % per week: 03rd Jan 12.75 mg / 28 Jan 12.29 mg / 18th Feb 11.83 mg, 25th Feb 11.68 mg hold../7th May 11.33 mg hold, 4th Aug 10.98 mg. Holding because of not feeling well.

 

 

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Tom37

Felt ok last night but woke at 12.30am after a nightmare and current symptoms were ramped up and couldn’t go back to sleep with annoying thoughts that wouldn’t stop. Had some stress at work yesterday so that may have triggered it.

 

Just seem to be going a period of windows and waves quite close to each other....with similar but slightly different symptoms each time. My stomach seems to always be affected at the moment as the weird nausea is back with terrible taste in mouth along with the other symptoms.

 

Hopefully passes soon.


20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November.

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