pinciukas: Short of breath

[pinciukas]

12 minutes ago, Shep said:

Nothing you can do but ride it out, Pincuikas. Many people accidentally take an extra dose or miss a dose, so it's very common. It may ramp up symptoms for awhile, but you'll be okay. 

Thank you! First I freaked out but now I am calm

[Shep]

How are you doing today, Pinciukas? 

[pinciukas]

1 hour ago, Shep said:

How are you doing today, Pinciukas? 

I am good I only slept not so good but my day is good busy with work. When I am busy then I don't have a time to think what is wrong with me 🙈

[pinciukas]

Before Seroxat I always had premature ejaculation. This was not a problem you can always repeat sex and then you will last longer. On 20 mg Seroxat it changed and for me was difficult to finish ( I always finished but took me 30 minutes maybe) Now when I am on 9 mg I can finish more easily and more than one time during the sex. Before after intensive sex for me was enought 1 time 🙈 This is good sign? I checked about PSSD but I believe this is not my case. 

Other question how long I need to wait for I can tapper down again? Now I am feeling good maybe 1 anxiety attack mild per week. Probably still adjusting to updose. It is good if I wait for few months before I start to tappering?  Can I tapper 5% ? I believe under around 7mg 10% tappering was too fast for me 

[Shep]

This thread can help you decide when it's right to taper:

 

Withdrawal Normal

 

And here is some information on doing a micro-taper: 

 

Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases

 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

 

A lot of people do very well using the Brassmonkey Slide. You make small weekly reductions instead of one large monthly reduction. 

 

21 hours ago, pinciukas said:

I am good I only slept not so good but my day is good busy with work. When I am busy then I don't have a time to think what is wrong with me 🙈

 

Being busy is a good thing during withdrawal. Perhaps find some hobbies or activities you enjoy when you're not at work so you keep yourself from dwelling on withdrawal. 

[pinciukas]

Small update I am doing good. But on the other hand I feel sad at the moment. I was busy almost 2 years with tappering reached 5.5 mg and updosed now I am at almost half of my old dose and I am affraid to tapper offcourse I don't want to do it now first I need to be stable but I am affraid that I will crash again and my updose will not work again. I don't understand why I crashed I don't had typical WD symptoms only this nasty bad anxiety attacks and panic attacks maybe my brains are destroyed by SSRI and I can't go back? I am busy with CBT for anxiety it is good but still I don't know I am confused. Seroxat helping me now but how I can quit this drug again? I am so affraid

[pinciukas]

How I can improve my sleep? Usually I fall a sleep around 12AM and I can sleep until 7AM 7 hours sleep. Sometimes I fall a sleep not easy and sleep is kind of broken maybe once a week. For me is very strange that I can't sleep longer that 7AM. Sometimes i kind of nap from 7 AM until 8AM with very light sleep. It is annoying because in the weekend I would like to sleep longer and I was able to do it few months ago. It is possible that I still adapting to updose? Anxiety is ok I have some but not everyday and only light anxiety. Like example tonight I slept bad can't fall a sleep one hour that I felt a sleep waked up at 4 AM with sweat not so heavy but still then felt a sleep and waked up at 7AM. I don't feel tired usually after so night I sleep better next night. But I would like to improve my sleep probably be is not so good because I am still adjusting to updose I have no idea .

[Shep]

You may want to go to bed earlier, since you aren't able to sleep later than 7 AM. Although 7 hours of sleep, even if broken up, is still really good during withdrawal. 

 

You may find some helpful tips here:

 

Tips to help sleep: so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

[pinciukas]

23 hours ago, Shep said:

You may want to go to bed earlier, since you aren't able to sleep later than 7 AM. Although 7 hours of sleep, even if broken up, is still really good during withdrawal. 

 

You may find some helpful tips here:

 

Tips to help sleep: so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

Thank you very much!

I am happy that I don’t have what we call real insomnia. Anyways 3 or 7 hours is better than nothing

Also I am battling my hypochondria seems she is going up and down. All week was good but yesterday but few days ago i pulled my calf muscle and yesterday i started to Google for stretching techniques and find out that it can be DVT I know i am stupid but i just started to worry and worry caused anxiety in the evening with short of breath and other symptoms. Then i freaked out because i thought i have embolism in my lungs like Jesus Christ I was so stupid just cause anxiety myself from nowhere. Off course i slept not so good and today I feel tired at work and dizzy after those events is very difficult to restore my CNS and i need few days to go back to normal. 

It is annoying those Google events I am trying to change my behavior and I understand that changes can’t be done in one day or a week.

I am very impatient in all things. This is my addiction downside because i wan’t everything now and more.

[Shep]

On 2/14/2020 at 7:38 AM, pinciukas said:

Also I am battling my hypochondria seems she is going up and down.

 

This thread may help:

 

Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms

[Dragon]

Hi @pinciukas, how are you doing now. I see you haven't posted on here in a while. Has the anxiety settled down a bit with your reinstatement ? Hope things are working out for you.💙

[Dragon]

Sorry, pinciukas, I can't work out how to retract the previous post. I couldn't see any posts after middle of January so that was relating to that. I can now see a lot of posts from Shep and you, so the picture looks different. I see you are suffering from hypochondria and bad sleep. I too am having terrible trouble sleeping. It's very common in withdrawal as is worrying about health issues. Not surprising as we feel so awful. I hope you feel better soon.💙

[pinciukas]

3 hours ago, Dragon said:

Hi @pinciukas, how are you doing now. I see you haven't posted on here in a while. Has the anxiety settled down a bit with your reinstatement ? Hope things are working out for you.💙

Hi, I am doing good actually after my reinstatement. But I am afraid to tapper again I am just so afraid to be disable again. I don't have anxiety now and feeling much much better :)

[Dragon]

Why not let a few weeks go by so you can feel some stability before thinking about tapering again. Then when you do feel ready to begin tapering, do it by very small amounts so you have less chance of very severe symptoms.

Glad you're feeling better.xx

[pinciukas]

I am more that one month benzo free I am so happy. I am struggling sometimes if i have anxiety and my mind telling me to take a benzo but still i can go without it. And i see that I am learning to manage my anxiety without benzos. 🤗

[pinciukas]

Today for the first time i have drived my car to washing company cleaned everything and came back home. I had bad palpilations and some anxiety in the washing room when i can't get out but i managed to go thru. I had idea to take benzo but i didn't. I am now at home and so happy that i did it! Without benzo. This is sign that i can revire my brain and i have hope!

[Shep]

19 hours ago, pinciukas said:

This is sign that i can revire my brain and i have hope!

 

Excellent update, pincuikas. 

[pinciukas]

I have a question.

Two years ago I was on 20 mg Seroxat. 

Now I am on 9mg and I feel the same like on 20 just without side effects like night sweats and delayed orgasm. 

So this means that my brain somehow healed? It is strange that this dose have same effect like 20 mg 2 years ago. I am curious.

[Shep]

This is good news, pinciukas. The goal of a slow taper is to allow your brain and body to adapt to the gradual removal of the drug with as few symptoms as possible as you make these reductions. And to possibly feel even better because the lower doses mean fewer side effects, as you've noticed. And from what you've written, you've learned other ways of managing your anxiety beyond taking a drug. 

 

It sounds like your updose is going really well. You may want to hold for a bit longer and then opt for a micro-taper going forward. 

[Cocopuffz17]

Great news to hear! You are doing well! Keep going!! 
 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed 🙂

[pinciukas]

Small update I am doing good. I can drive my car all week without any anxiety. If i have some bad anxious feeling i try to concentrate on music. My sleep is ok. Mosly i sleep 6-7 hours per night i dont know why but I am waking up at 7AM always and going sleep at 12AM sometimes takes time to fall a sleep but I am happy it is better than insomnia or 2 hours sleep. I don't feel tired after my night. Sometimes i can fall a sleep for one extra hour is the morning. I am trying to stay on current dose for some months hope i can be stable and then i will try micro tappering.

[Shep]

21 hours ago, pinciukas said:

I am trying to stay on current dose for some months hope i can be stable and then i will try micro tappering.

 

Excellent update, pinciukas. This sounds like a very wise plan. 

[pinciukas]

Look like I am stabilizing on my dose. I have only night sweats not every night bus most of my nights. Mostly only legs but sometimes also full body sweats. I had this on 20mg during my using period but there sweats were bad full body few time a night. Now only once at night. Can it be related with anxiety or lower dose or WD? I am happy that they are not so bad when was before. But still my anxious mind telling me that it can be some serious illness 🙄

[sunnysideup69]

Glad you are stabilizing at your dose. Keep it steady

[pinciukas]

I read an article that if WD still persists after 6 months this is not WD anymore but iatrogenic brain damage. It is true? I am so scared that my brain is damaged and i can’t heal. I am kind of stable now I still have anxiety but anxiety is my problem not WD because i had anxiety before SSRI. I don’t know what to do. I don’t have depression only episodes once a week for a hour. But i have light anxiety, sleep sometimes is good sometimes is broken. Often i have dizziness but i believe everything here is going with anxiety. If I am calm and busy i don’t have any symptoms. So I don’t know what should do? When i can start tapering again? Can anyone advise me?

I know i need to stay positive, because now i can go out, work, eat, sleep in the end of december until mid of January i was bedridden with 24/7 anxiety and panic attacks. But no I am afraid to tapper again. How to beat this tapering anxiety? And when start to tapper? I am afraid if I will stay longer on my updose it will make more harm to me. Any moderators can please give me advise? First I planned to stay until summer on updose and tapper down with 5 % but now i am afraid to stay for so long.

[Cocopuffz17]

Stay with the tested system of holding and stabilizing. I came off Paxil as a fast taper. You can heal. Stabilization is key though. I went through almost a year of very challenging times. I am way better now than I was and my health conditions are reversing. You will heal.... but tapering fast will make it harder. 

[sunnysideup69]

I agree with @Cocopuffz17, hold and stabilise. There is no rush, and by the way, no, I don't think you have brain damage. Just look at the testimonials of people who were having long protracted WD....they eventually healed.

 

I strongly advise to not read scare stories  

[pinciukas]

Anyone knows how i can rise my dopamine level? I need so bad higher dopamine at the moment. I am trying more socializing with the people its helpful also exercise was helpful yesterday only today i have pain in my muscles because i am not in the best shape  I am addicted to gambling and now i am free of it. During my gambling i had a lot of dopamine and when he is Low then i feel bored, kind of sad and also i have craving to gambling.

[Cocopuffz17]

8 hours ago, pinciukas said:

Anyone knows how i can rise my dopamine level? I need so bad higher dopamine at the moment. I am trying more socializing with the people its helpful also exercise was helpful yesterday only today i have pain in my muscles because i am not in the best shape  I am addicted to gambling and now i am free of it. During my gambling i had a lot of dopamine and when he is Low then i feel bored, kind of sad and also i have craving to gambling.

 

These sound very familiar to me when I was on my 20 mg of paroxetine. I was addicted to gambling for the rush that it gave me. I know longer get that rush  after being off the drug. Which is a good thing. I still do get muscle pains/twitches off the medication. I would say they will get better as you stabilize!

[pinciukas]

Please close my topic I don’t want to post here anymore. This website is a joke. Bye

[Shep]

1 hour ago, pinciukas said:

Please close my topic I don’t want to post here anymore. This website is a joke. Bye

 

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