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Tanha
On 12/19/2018 at 7:52 PM, Aquarius said:

Well the good feeling lasted until about 4.00 then the tell tale signs came on the ear ringing first then the head pressure and stiff neck and thoughts so negative if i need any more proof this is withdrawal today has been it the difference in how i felt physically and mentally in one day is extreme i have a sore throat and body aches the usuall flu like symptons extremely tired as well though there is a difference rather than overreacting to this as i normally do i feel more at peace with it a sort of acceptance where before i would go into a downward spiral 

You also have These fluelike Symptoms? 

For how long?

i have them everyday for two months now. 

Yes, medication induced depression and anxiety are worse than natural depression or anxiety.

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Tanha
On 12/20/2018 at 11:02 AM, Aquarius said:

Well honeymoon well and truly over woke with the usual worries overthinking and working myself into a panic pacing and wanting to be sick stomach feels delicate added stress of worrying about christmas its so exhausting having a ginger tea that usually helps witb the nausea .The hardest bit if this is that people say sit down and rest or just relax i just look at them and smile ...if only they knew ...

Do you have akathisia like i do?

pacing all day and never being able to calm down.

gingertea works for nausea?

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manny03
2 minutes ago, Tanha said:

You also have These fluelike Symptoms? 

For how long?

i have them everyday for two months now. 

Yes, medication induced depression and anxiety are worse than natural depression or anxiety.

Tanha, 

 

I'm coming off Trintellix, and was like you with the flu like symptoms, akathesia from July to Mid November, when it finally went away. Though, I just came through the flu and sadly these symptoms with new G.I. symptoms (weird aches, nausea, constipation) came crashing back in. So, your not the only one with these horrible symptoms. . 

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Tanha
Just now, manny03 said:

Tanha, 

 

I'm coming off Trintellix, and was like you with the flu like symptoms, akathesia from July to Mid November, when it finally went away. Though, I just came through the flu and sadly these symptoms with new G.I. symptoms (weird aches, nausea, constipation) came crashing back in. So, your not the only one with these horrible symptoms. . 

Thank you so much. 

 

Did the akathisia go away during tapering or after?

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manny03
7 minutes ago, Tanha said:

Thank you so much. 

 

Did the akathisia go away during tapering or after?

I had Akathesia from August to late October.

 

I didn't taper, I went C/T in mid July since my medication was making me aggressive and had to stop it before I did something dangerous to my family. 

 

It had gone away. Though, with the flu, the symptoms came back. What had helped back then was me constantly working out or walking, eating normally, and drinking a lot of water to push through these symptoms. 

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ChessieCat
34 minutes ago, Aquarius said:

Hi leo1983 i feel for you its a horrible time ...i was getting stressed about Christmas and having to put on a show ..now thats where we go wrong trying to be something were not ...i let all family members know how i was feeling i even joked about being a miserable person aroumd the table lile im the one thats not smiling or the one that cant hold a knife and fork because mt hands are shaking we all made jokes about it and it made me feel less stressed you are going through withdrawal it can't be helped its not forever just be who you are and not what you think you should be ...hopefully your family are as loving and understanding as mine 

 

I'm pleased that you managed okay.  It sounds like your family are being very supportive.  I hope you did manage to experience some moments of joy and pleasure even though you were feeling miserable.

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Aquarius

Prevail yes its a tough journey witb many ups and downs and like you i have been worse these last few weeks my symptons at the start were quite stable now they are extreme it had a pattern bad morning good by evening now its bad night bad morning and evening real bad stonach issues constant restlessness and crying after a few days of this i woke this morning usual anxietyand panic then for some reason a calm came over me and i feel normal and cant stop eating comfirms the chemical imbalance 

 

Tahna

I seem to get the flu like symptoms after i have felt good its a sign for me of going back down .if you mean the jittery restlessness feeling yes ive had this for a couple of days and its just stopped i hate this sympton the most its so debilitating...yes i take ginger tea for sickness ginger has lots of good properties 

 

Chessie cat ..

Thank you and yes i did knowing i didnt have to put on a show helped 

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Aquarius

Sorry still cant do quote sections i end up copying the whole  post 😊 and dont know how to do the blue @ and name haha as i typed it in peoples names came up  😋

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Tanha
46 minutes ago, Aquarius said:

Prevail yes its a tough journey witb many ups and downs and like you i have been worse these last few weeks my symptons at the start were quite stable now they are extreme it had a pattern bad morning good by evening now its bad night bad morning and evening real bad stonach issues constant restlessness and crying after a few days of this i woke this morning usual anxietyand panic then for some reason a calm came over me and i feel normal and cant stop eating comfirms the chemical imbalance 

 

Tahna

I seem to get the flu like symptoms after i have felt good its a sign for me of going back down .if you mean the jittery restlessness feeling yes ive had this for a couple of days and its just stopped i hate this sympton the most its so debilitating...yes i take ginger tea for sickness ginger has lots of good properties 

 

Chessie cat ..

Thank you and yes i did knowing i didnt have to put on a show helped 

Thank you Aquarius.

 

i am in such agony all day since March (no window yet), that it is one of my very few possible distractions to read on SA how fellow fighters like you are doing. It helps me a lot if I read things I can relate to. I am almost bedridden since May and in psychiatry since feb. no tv, no music possible. I can go for a walk though from time to time.

 

hope you feel better and get longer windows. Seems that this might happen, Soon or is happening already. 

All the best to you.

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Aquarius

Thank you Tanha it must be so difficult for you not having too many distractions i hope you start getting some relief soon just keep believing you can do this and your body is amazing and will heal it may seem like forever now but when we look back its probably a very short time stay strong and whatever you go through there are people on here going through the same so you are never alone chin up you will get there ...i felt great this morning anx hungry i ate quite a bit now i have a tight neck pressure in head and feel tired so i think food plays a part in my symptons ..wishing you all the best 

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Aquarius

Does anyone have the same problem or am i putting two and two together and making five after eating i developed a pressure on the bridge of my nose and my head feels like its being squeezed and have a really bad neck and shoulder tension and feel down ..i have recently been having stomach issues with burni g sensations maybe whatever part of the brain is being fixed it has to do with the stomach  😊i tend to think that when i get different symptons its a different part of my brain being fixed like the WTC analogy 

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manny03
39 minutes ago, Aquarius said:

Does anyone have the same problem or am i putting two and two together and making five after eating i developed a pressure on the bridge of my nose and my head feels like its being squeezed and have a really bad neck and shoulder tension and feel down ..i have recently been having stomach issues with burni g sensations maybe whatever part of the brain is being fixed it has to do with the stomach  😊i tend to think that when i get different symptons its a different part of my brain being fixed like the WTC analogy 

 

When I C/T the first symptoms that began to happen to me were the constant headaches, numbing of my right check, pressure on the back of my head, and muscle tension around my neck to the extent I had issues when swallowing or I was cognizant of my muscles when I was swallowing my food. 

 

This symptom faded away in September, then just recently came back in mid November with my G.I. issues I've mentioned before. So for me, these throat sensations shifted from top of my throat now to the bottom on my esophagus were it connects to my stomach and G.I. system. 

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RachelSusan

My symptoms were similar but not identical to Manny03.  I had headaches, tingling (pins and needles) on of certain areas of my face as well as my legs.  I also had pressure at the back of my head, behind  my nose and behind my eyes.  It was very painful pressure.  I had some G.I. problems when I was at my worst.  My symptoms however was not triggered by eating, although there were some times I had difficulty with eating but I don't recall exactly what that difficulty was there.  The pressure was there all the time, the tingling most of the time and the G.I. problems were thankfully only occasionally.

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Aquarius

Last two days have been bad anyone had a feeling of constant state of panic but not on outside just inside pressure in head buzzing all over body and tight chest really tiring and upsetting as it doesn't seem to be stopping done all the calming down methods but nothing is touching it wouldnt know anything was wrong looking at me buzzing and pressure in forearms now and again my thighs start to shake its not quite a panic attack its just staying the same intensity its like a continuous adreneline rush ..anyone had this

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RachelSusan

Yes, I have had it. I know it is bad.  Sometimes all the calming techniques in the world don't help. You can try hot baths or showers, that helped me a little, but not a lot.  You just have to live with it until it goes away.  It will eventually go away.  I'm so sorry, I know how awful it is.  But, it will go away.

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Aquarius

Thank you RachelSusan your reply is like a beacon of hope i could cry this is so tiring when there is no letup sometimes i think its settling them the tiniest thing can set it off even a thought i know its just buzzing and tight chest when i rationalise it but it so overwhelming when it wont stop ..i used to have a pattern of bad morning good rest of day how i wish to be back there...

Can i just wish everyone on here a Merry Christmas and a peaceful New Year xx

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Rosetta
On December 23, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Aquarius said:

Does anyone have the same problem or am i putting two and two together and making five after eating i developed a pressure on the bridge of my nose and my head feels like its being squeezed and have a really bad neck and shoulder tension and feel down ..i have recently been having stomach issues with burni g sensations maybe whatever part of the brain is being fixed it has to do with the stomach  😊i tend to think that when i get different symptons its a different part of my brain being fixed like the WTC analogy 

 

Yes, this is what I believe.  It may seem that something we ate has caused problems, and that's certainly possible, but it's also very likely that a part of the brain is being repaired, and there is some chaos to be expected.  As RachelSusan said, it will stop.  You have to get through it.  That said an elimination diet isn't a bad idea if you have the ability to get the food, follow it, etc.  Not eating because we are afraid of food is a real problem because low blood sugar is miserable, too,  I gave up trying to avoids foods because I was suffering too much from not eating.  Eating very simply and only "clean" foods isn't a bad idea either.

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Aquarius

Thank you for coming back to me Rosetta yes i am falling into the trap of not eating due to being scared it might upset my system ...Merry Christmas to you and your family x

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Carmie

Hi Aquarius, 

 

Just popping by to say hope you’re coping okay today. Find yourself some good distractions, and make sure to get some rest as well.  Yesterday I watched Sing on Netflix. I’ve seen it before, it’s a cartoon and it’s so funny. Gave me lots of laughs. Maybe find something to watch that makes you smile. 

 

Sending hugs🤗

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Aquarius

Hi Carmie hope you had a good Christmas....i have been struggling am having symptons all day it feels like my cns is so hypersensitive even a thought is sending me into a panic and for some reason everytime i eat something  also get burning after eating it is so tiring and upsetting...thank you for popping in and the advice much appreciated 

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manny03
1 hour ago, Aquarius said:

Hi Carmie hope you had a good Christmas....i have been struggling am having symptons all day it feels like my cns is so hypersensitive even a thought is sending me into a panic and for some reason everytime i eat something  also get burning after eating it is so tiring and upsetting...thank you for popping in and the advice much appreciated 

That's what I experienced a few days ago which freaked me out. I ate something that wasn't even spicy and began to feel a burning like sensation though it didn't have classic symptomlogy of heartburn, though I quickly caught on that it was my nervous system since I would begin to focus in the moment, breath in and breath out, and the symptom would go away. It also occurs when I'm about to pass a bowel movement which is so weird. Right now, I only have odd or off sensations on my abdominal muscles while I eat though the aches and pains I had a few weeks back is waning down. I just hope it doesn't flare up. 

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Aquarius

Thank you for replying i have had a rough few days no let up in symptons trying to hold it together really considering taking some tablet not sure how much i or my body can take could deal with it when it gave me a break but now its relentless  as if my body wont shut down symptons at moment feeling in stomach shaking internal buzzing head pressure tight neck and dark depressive thoughts about not wanting to get old and die just writimg that has set my stomack off and going into panic feels like someone has just told me i got a week to live so scared..is it normal to have constant panic for days !!

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ChessieCat

Many members notice an increase in their symptoms over the Christmas holiday period.

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Aquarius

Thank you Chessie Cat 

Yes i think it has a lot to do with it ..the build up to it was stressful as i was anticipating how i would feel now its over i feel like its all coming out just hope my body calms down before it kills me 😊 keep thinking of the damage it may be doing and thinking of ulcers because of the constant stress ...i have diazepam 5mg if things got too much would i be able to take a small amount of it or is it better to keep going through as i said i worry what the stress iz doing to me ..thank you 

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ChessieCat

It's generally best to steer clear of benzos.  They can cause rebound anxiety which makes you want to take another and it doesn't take very long to be dependent on them. 

 

I suggest you pull out some non drug techniques:

 

LINKS:

 

The labelled diagram in this link explains how anxiety affects different parts of the body:

 

https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/docs/AnxietySelfHelp.pdf

 

Audio:  First Aid for Panic (4 minutes)

 

Dr Claire Weekes suffered from anxiety and learned and taught ways of coping.  There are videos available on YouTube.

 

Claire Weekes' Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System

 

 

On 4/28/2017 at 4:03 AM, brassmonkey said:

 

AAF: Acknowledge, Accept, Float.  It's what you have to do when nothing else works, and can be a very powerful tool in coping with anxiety. The neuroemotional anxiety many of us feel during WD is directly caused by the drugs and their chemical reactions in the brain.  Making it so there is nothing we can do about them.  They won't respond to other drugs, relaxation techniques and the like.  They do, however, react very well to being ignored.  That's the concept behind AAF.  Acknowledge, get to know the feeling involved, explore them.  Accept, These feelings are a part of you and they aren't going anywhere fast. Float, let the feeling float off as you get on with your life as best as you can.  It's a well documented fact that the more you feed in to anxiety the worse it gets.  What starts as generalized neuroemotinal anxiety can be easily blown into a full fledged panic attack just by thinking about it.

 

I often liken it to an unwanted house guest.  At first you talk to them, have conversations, communicate with them.  After a while you figure out that they aren't leaving and there is nothing you can do to get rid of them.  So you go on about your day, working around them until they get bored and leave.

 

It can take some practice, but AAF really does work.  I hope you give it a try.

 

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Aquarius

Thank you 😊

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manny03
7 hours ago, Aquarius said:

Thank you Chessie Cat 

Yes i think it has a lot to do with it ..the build up to it was stressful as i was anticipating how i would feel now its over i feel like its all coming out just hope my body calms down before it kills me 😊 keep thinking of the damage it may be doing and thinking of ulcers because of the constant stress ...

 

That's being my worry. That's why I did breath test to see if something was off in my stomach, though nothing came out. So, I just need to brunt through it. 

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Aquarius
4 hours ago, manny03 said:
4 hours ago, manny03 said:
11 hours ago, Aquarius said:

 

 

That's being my worry. That's why I did breath test to see if something was off in my stomach, though nothing came out. So, I just need to brunt through it. 

 

I will get the hang of this quote thing  😊 yes i know its all very well going through this and have people say keep going carry on ..no disrespect to anyone....but it makes you wonder how much suffering the body can take apologises for sounding negative but it does go through my mind 

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Junglechicken
On 12/21/2018 at 3:06 PM, Aquarius said:

Was doing ok i know i like to make connections but after eating something midday i have got my stomach issues back it feels like all my muscles in that area are cramping up and all around rib area at back and sides and like a burning sensation can anyone relate ? 

 

Hi,

 

Yes I can relate.

 

Thank you for visiting my thread.

 

JC

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manny03
50 minutes ago, Aquarius said:

I will get the hang of this quote thing  😊 yes i know its all very well going through this and have people say keep going carry on ..no disrespect to anyone....but it makes you wonder how much suffering the body can take apologises for sounding negative but it does go through my mind 

 

I know. Trust me, I'm also negative. I don't know how I'm going to carry on with these symptoms that are scary, making me think that I have some crazy cancer. Though, I need force myself remember, I got blood workup done, tests and ultrasounds and I was given the clear bill of health and this is just a wave since the other symptoms are fading away, and new ones are copping up. Right now. My odd sensations when eating or the heartburn like sensations finally faded away, and now I'm having abdominal cramps on the sides, gas, and constipation. I hope with time this fades away. My three month headache faded away and led to this, so I know I'll be ok even though the road is going to be hellish. 

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Carmie

Hi Aquarius, 

 

I’m sorry you’re struggling so much. I spent a lot time crocheting blanket after blanket when waves have been bad. I find because we can’t actually get rid of the symptoms the one thing that has helped me is to continue to distract myself. I didn’t have to think about it, I just did the same stitch over n over. 

 

At the moment I’m doing diamond paintings, they’re another good distraction and you can do them without too much brain power either. You stick tiny little resin beads on canvases. It’s like paint by numbers, but it’s stick by numbers. It’s given me many hours of distraction. I get them off eBay. I’m doing one at the moment. I love the nature ones. 

 

I have a “happy wall” in my bedroom where I stick them on, I also have positive sayings, fairy lights, balloons etc on my happy wall.  No matter how terrible I feel in the mornings I have my happy wall to greet me😄. When I’m stuck in bed for the day at least I have a cheery bedroom. 

 

Take care, sending hugs 🤗

 

 

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Aquarius

Thank you Carmie love your happy wall 😊 last night i felt normal slept 7 hours and woke up with no panic after it being constant for days !!! Though it has been replaced by fear and negative thoughts of thinking my life is over nothing to life for fear of getting old and dying and being alone...i know we all get this from time to time but this feels very intense and real makes me scared ..hope it passes soon ...sometimes i laugh as when we suffer in a wave and a new sympton comes along i always wish i had the old sympton back 😊🤗🤗🤗wishing you healing 😚

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Rosetta

That was a window!! Good for you.  You can get through a lot if you can remember the Windows.  I'm glad you wrote it down.

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Aquarius

Thank you Rosetta i hope you had an enjoyable Christmas unfortunately dark thoughts still with me and my pulse is high usually 74 now 94 ....yes the window was so nice ot started im the evening and lasted until mid morning until the thoughts started but i am grateful for it 

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Carmie
On 12/28/2018 at 7:17 PM, Aquarius said:

Thank you Carmie love your happy wall 😊 last night i felt normal slept 7 hours and woke up with no panic after it being constant for days !!! Though it has been replaced by fear and negative thoughts of thinking my life is over nothing to life for fear of getting old and dying and being alone...i know we all get this from time to time but this feels very intense and real makes me scared ..hope it passes soon ...sometimes i laugh as when we suffer in a wave and a new sympton comes along i always wish i had the old sympton back 😊🤗🤗🤗wishing you healing 😚

 

Hi Aquarius, 

 

Yes, it’s amazing how our symptoms chop n change. A lot of the thoughts we get we wouldn’t be getting if we weren’t in withdrawals. It’s amazing how these meds affect our brains. We can become a lot more OCD as well with things. Things that would never have bothered us can become big deals, even small things. 

 

All we can do is take each day as it comes, sometimes each minute as it comes. We will get there in the end though, even if it doesn’t feel like it. 

 

Wishing you recovery n healing as well💚

 

 

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Aquarius

Thank you Carmie...😊

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