Aquarius

[RachelSusan]

On 2/6/2019 at 1:20 PM, Altostrata said:

If mirtazapine helps you sleep, why do you want to taper it now? Do you have side effects?

 

Sleep is good, it helps your nervous system heal from withdrawal.

Hi Aquarius,

I feel more comfortable leaving most of that type of drug guidance up to mods but it appears to me that on the 6th of February Altostrata addressed that with you.  See above. Ultimately the choice is up to you but she did offer up her thoughts. I wish you the best of luck in making your decision, but whatever you decide I do think you should stick with that choice rather than making all these little changes to an already destabilized CNS.

 

You might also want to consider updating your signature with the changes so the moderators can see with a glance what have been taking and when.  This will help them to better advise you without having to read through your thread every time. I know it's hard to do when you aren't feeling well and can't find your password, but if you can find a way it really will help them to help you.

 

I am thinking warm thoughts and good wishes for your recovery.

 

Rachel

[Aquarius]

Thank you Rs i know i am my own worst enemy ...ive decided to stick with the 15mg Mirtazapine and not mess around until i wamt to come off then do it with the help of this site ..today has been awful very negative thougjts about future and constant crying and anxiety ....thank you for popping by will sort my signature somehow and wish you well ...

[RachelSusan]

Aquarius,

 

Your choice sounds very sensible. You will eventually have to taper the Mirt but the key here is to stabilize and feel better now. If you stick with the Mirt you should start to feel a little better. Give yourself a week or two and I bet things will start too look up for you. Like I said previously, don't beat yourself up over this, just feel better. I know it is very difficult now but it will get better. It's hard to believe, but it will. Take good care of yourself my friend.

[Aquarius]

Having a bit of a mare updating signature have clicked on edit profile and the only profile box comes up is called about me .....thank you Rs you are so kind

[Aquarius]

Found a link hopefully all ok 

[RachelSusan]

I don't know if this will work for you but you can try the following. It all depends on if you are already signed in with your signature though.  That would be the first step, to get signed in. If the below doesn't work then ask a mod if they can help you. Again, take care of yourself and don't be too hard on yourself. Be very kind to yourself. I can't tell you the amount of things I couldn't do while in withdrawal and I always said to myself, "you tried but you are in WD, just try again later when you are feeling a bit better."

 

1. Click on your name which is on the upper right hand corner of your screen.  You should get a new drop down menu. Of the items listed select ACCOUNT SETTINGS.

 

2.  A new page will come up. Look at the far left and select SIGNATURE. See picture below.  That should do it.

[RachelSusan]

Sorry, Just posted the above before I saw your reply.

RS

[Aquarius]

Thank you Rs for your kind words I did manage to find a previous link ....thank you for getting back to me 

[Altostrata]

On 2/6/2019 at 1:29 PM, Aquarius said:

The Mirtazapine has helped with sleeping and appetite....i suppose its because i had gone 9 months with nothing from Sertraline and feel i should if carried on ...its just that usual feeling that you don't really want to be on anything ..i still feel extremely emotional and have anxiety upon waking and still get shakes and cry and obsessional thoughts...

 

Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern?  Please keep daily notes on paper with times of day for when you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms. You can post them in this topic with a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Post your notes here in your Intro topic.

 

14 hours ago, Aquarius said:

Was doing ok on Mirtazapine so in my wisdom as i dont want to be on any medication the last three nigjts i have taken a piece off not acurately ...this morning i have gone back to square one with severe anxiety hopelessness and crying ....would this have happened anyway or is it my butchering of the tablet ....10 months off sertraline....3 weeks on Mirtazapine...

 

Not sure why you're insisting on going off mirtazapine. I wouldn't, if I were you.

 

Think carefully, are you trying to make yourself more miserable? Because if you are, we're not going to be able to help you, your ability to make yourself miserable exceeds anything anyone can do.

 

If I were you, I'd go back on 15mg mirtazapine and stop worrying about it. It is not a high dose. You can taper it later.

 

Because you've dosed it irregularly, it may take some time for your nervous system to settle down.

 

Why are you taking 2.5mg felopidine?

[ChessieCat]

6 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Please keep daily notes on paper with times of day for when you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms. You can post them in this topic with a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Post your notes here in your Intro topic.

 

Example:

 

6 a.m. Woke with anxiety
8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
10 a.m. Stomach is upset
10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast
11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour
12:35 p.m. Ate lunch
4 p.m. Feel a bit better
5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
6 p.m. Ate dinner
9:20 p.m. Headache
10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel
10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy
10:30 p.m. Fell asleep
2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien")
2:45 a.m. Fell asleep
4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep

[Aquarius]

Thank you Alto and Chessie...unfortunately sometimes i think i know better a massive fault of mine and when i feel stronger i tell myself i can do this without tablets ....negative thoughts are my biggesr trigger around aging and dying...i went back to full 15mg dose last night after 3 days cutting down it was only yeaterday i was really bad ...crying shaking ...i got about 9 hours sleep last night and have woke up fine ...this is my pattern regardless of what i take ..if i have a really bad day the next day is great i was kindof on this pattern before mirt hence me tthinking about if i need it ...i will stick with it and keep daily notes ..i was prescribed felopudine for high blood pressure which was caused by anxiety and also started my phobia over taking pills ...i have a tendency ti to work myself up which is worse since being postmenopausal 

[Aquarius]

Really can't get my head around this bad day as in crying most of day feeling hopeless to a fantastic day yesterday then back to crying and anxiousness ...i know about waves and windows but each day ....

[RachelSusan]

One day at a time.  Your body has gone through a lot.  Give it a little time. I know it is horrible.

RS

[Carmie]

Hi Aquarius, 

 

Just wanted to pop around and give you a hug. I’m sorry you’ve been in tears a lot. I was just saying today that all the tears people are shedding on this site might make up a lake, take care 💚

[Aquarius]

Thank you Carmie i hope you are well ....actually feel pretty good today feel like i have turned a corner on these tablets if it keeps like this i have no regrets going on these tablets 

[Carmie]

Hi Aquarius, 

 

I’m glad you’re feeling a bit better. Holding is always a good idea, it’s just as important as slow tapering. We all wish we could get off these meds quicker, but if we do that we could pay for it in the long run. Some people who have cold turkeyed or tapered way 

quickly are still suffering from withdrawals many years later. Slow and steady is the only way to go, lots of long holds too. 

 

Take care, sending hugs 🤗 

[Aquarius]

Bit of advice has been five weeks on Mirtazapine 15mg after 10months ct sertraline...not doing great i think honeymoon is over and the withdrawal is poking through ...anxiety getting bad as well as crying spells ....last few days have been taking 40mg propranalol in the morning makes me feel out of it and also wishing i hadnt gone down rhis route and listened to the knowledgeable people on here who advised trying a small dose of Sertraline ...am i making more trouble for myself by taking the Mirtazapine as it definitely is not helping now...i will update my signature with the propranalol...

[Aquarius]

Just an add on bit of a surprise 😊doc wamts me to go to 30mg Mirtazapine...

[Altostrata]

What effect does 15mg mirtazapine have on you? How often are you taking propanolol, and when?

 

Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern?  Please keep daily notes on paper with times of day for when you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms. You can post them in this topic with a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Post your notes here in your Intro topic.

[Aquarius]

Thank you will do ...silly question but am i still suffering the waves and windows from withdrawal of Sertraline as the pattern hasnt changed much so thats why i wonder if Mirtazapine is doing anything i think maybe i was in a window at the beginning and now in a wave ...

[ChessieCat]

10 hours ago, Altostrata said:

What effect does 15mg mirtazapine have on you? How often are you taking propanolol, and when?

 

Please answer Alto's questions.

[Aquarius]

To be honest not a lot though i have been crying a lot more and i feel flatter on them definitely feel more depressed since taking them whereas before i would have pockets of feeling great like a switch but i dont get that now ...i was told to take the propranalol 40mg upon waking as that is my worst anxiety so its usually about 6 or 7 but it doesn't seem to calm me down ...

[Aquarius]

I don't suppose i will know if this depression and crying is from tablets or withdrawal though as i said i definitely had some brigjter moments before them and feel like crying is worse especially after propranalol which i have only taken for about 6 days 

[ChessieCat]

12 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please keep daily notes on paper with times of day for when you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms. You can post them in this topic with a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. Post your notes here in your Intro topic. 

 

Example:

 

6 a.m. Woke with anxiety
8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
10 a.m. Stomach is upset
10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast
11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour
12:35 p.m. Ate lunch
4 p.m. Feel a bit better
5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
6 p.m. Ate dinner
9:20 p.m. Headache
10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel
10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy
10:30 p.m. Fell asleep
2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien")
2:45 a.m. Fell asleep
4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep

[Aquarius]

Thank you Chessie Cat have started to do that...

[Aquarius]

Anyone know if propranalol can be upped and reduced without any harm im assuming it doesn't have to be tapered??

[Aquarius]

Will my body become dependant on it like ad s 

[Carmie]

On 2/26/2019 at 12:23 AM, Aquarius said:

Anyone know if propranalol can be upped and reduced without any harm im assuming it doesn't have to be tapered??

 

On 2/26/2019 at 1:03 AM, Aquarius said:

Will my body become dependant on it like ad s 

 

Hi Aquarius, 

 

Yes, you can get withdrawals from propranalol. If you come off it too fast it can actually affect your heart. 

 

How have you been doing?💚

Edited March 1, 2019 by Carmie
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[Aquarius]

I was hoping to not have to post here anymore but due to circumstances i feel i am in a worst state .......i kindof know the reaction i will get considering the advice that i had been given on this site but i will take it on the chin....the last time i posted i had just started Mirtazapine due to protracted withdrawal from Sertraline previous year ctd ....it was going ok then the weight gain swollen ankles bloated stomach and stomach issues came plus i had a death as well ...about six weeks ago the doctor stopped my 7.5mg Mirtazapine one day and started me on 20mg Citalopram the next day due to my state and pressure from family i relented ...thats when all hell broke loose for the next four weeks i was nauseous constant daily panic attacks and lack of sleep couldnt relax after four weeks of suffering the doctor said my reaction was severe so thought it better to be off quicker than later she cut me down to 10mg for four days then told me to alternate for four days i knew this was virtually cold turkey but could not tolerate symptons anymore...have been off two weeks the severity of symptons have subsided a bit but still very much on edge very anxious mornings  and panic attacks feelings of not being able to cope anymore ...ok i got myself in this mess and wonder how much more i can put up with i am functional to a degree i sleep eat and go out but i know the doctors will throw another tablet at me ...if i tried to reinstate one to maybe get some stability out of the sertraline Mirtazapine or citalopram would you suggest ....was on Mirtazapine for tbree months from jan 19 and citalopram for nearly 4 weeks ...thank you ...

[Aquarius]

Have also been advised to take ashwagandha for morning cortisol ?? I only take omega 3 as i know this site on revommends two and the magnesium doesnt seem to work for me but does as an epsom salt bath...just need my cns to come down from defcom 5 to a place where i am not being constantly triggered from the tiniest thing ...

[ChessieCat]

Please update your drug signature.

 

Please post 3 days of symptoms notes so that they can be assessed.

[ChessieCat]

1 hour ago, Aquarius said:

Have also been advised to take ashwagandha for morning cortisol

 

Adding anything new at this stage is only going to confuse things.

[Aquarius]

Thank you Chessie Cat i will do as ypu ask thank you for your response

[Aquarius]

Have been prescribed Diazepam 2mg 3 times a day ....i usually end up taking 2mg un the morning as i am bad feel totally overwhelmed....is this just adding fuel to the fire ? 

[Altostrata]

How long have you been taking diazepam? To answer any questions about your symptoms, we need to see those daily notes with your drug schedule and symptom pattern.

[Aquarius]

On and off since starting citalopram about six weeks ago ...but since being off completely for the last two weeks virtually everyday in the morning....i will change my drug signature and starr journaling my symptoms for the next few days and then post them ...thank you