Gracee Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 @Carmie and @Rachellynn Thank you both for visiting and for your encouragement. You are both teaching me that support and friendship from others sharing similar ups-and-downs is so important. We are not unique and we are not alone. HUGS! G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Distractions are so important, I am finding out myself. anything to take the focus off of symptoms! 14 hours ago, Gracee said: I won't take another sleep aid for at least a week as I refuse to become dependent. this seems wise; the last two days I came home from work and had wine to relax. it was such a relief from the constant feeling of anxiety but I should probably do the same thing - not do it again for a week. Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 hours ago, JackieDecides said: this seems wise; the last two days I came home from work and had wine to relax. it was such a relief from the constant feeling of anxiety but I should probably do the same thing - not do it again for a week. Coincidentally, it was wine that brought me to Paxil. To cope and relax, I sipped wine daily after work, as well as on weekends ......starting earlier in the day. It didn't take long to develop an addiction to alcohol. When I quit alcohol, my doctor prescribed Paxil for horrible alcohol withdrawal anxiety, plus two week's of Xanax to take while Paxil was kicking in. I was sternly warned not to mix Paxil with alcohol. I've stayed sober for 16 years, with a brief relapse on one vacation, but still think about drinking. With this taper, I find myself craving wine and imagine myself ordering it at a restaurant. I pray I don't give in to these cravings. Some people are predisposed to addiction, it seems I am one of them. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just my daily status report: Nearly 2 a.m. before falling asleep. Up at 7 a.m. feeling OK. Did some light chores and a little yard cleanup. Lounged around in afternoon because of busy day tomorrow. A quick 1/2 mile walk. No napping. Epson salts bath. Resumed magnesium citrate. Only slight tinnitus. All-and-all nice window. G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Daily report: Took a Benadryl before bed last night. Slept pretty good. Felt good all day and was busy with Friday stuff. Only WD symptom is the ever-present tinnitus. I can live with that. If this stability continues for another week, I'll try a small dose reduction. Taking it a day at a time. I know I cannot change my circumstances, but I can control my attitude and behavior. I believe acceptance, distractions and maintaining a positive outlook help ease the discomfort of withdrawal. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted February 16, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Gracee said: Daily report: Took a Benadryl before bed last night. Slept pretty good. Felt good all day and was busy with Friday stuff. Only WD symptom is the ever-present tinnitus. I can live with that. If this stability continues for another week, I'll try a small dose reduction. Taking it a day at a time. I believe acceptance, distractions and maintaining a positive outlook help ease the discomfort of withdrawal. Dear Gracee, That is a wonderful attitude. You are going to be fine. : ) It seems that tinnitus, like all withdrawal symptoms, does heal. In any case you have a great attitude and I really want to congratulate and encourage you for all you've accomplished so far. I've read just a bit of your thread, and I can certainly relate to having multiple attempts to trying to get off Paxil over the years (before finding this site). You're doing great. One day we will be free, and celebrate! ❤️ 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 hours ago, SkyBlue said: Dear Gracee, That is a wonderful attitude. You are going to be fine. : ) It seems that tinnitus, like all withdrawal symptoms, does heal. In any case you have a great attitude and I really want to congratulate and encourage you for all you've accomplished so far. I've read just a bit of your thread, and I can certainly relate to having multiple attempts to trying to get off Paxil over the years (before finding this site). You're doing great. One day we will be free, and celebrate! ❤️ @SkyBlue, Just can't thank you enough for your kind words and encouragement. It means a lot. I have read your signature and think I will be a fan of the BrassMonkey Slide too. Best wishes. G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 2:03 PM, Gracee said: Some people are predisposed to addiction, it seems I am one of them. me, too. when I was young and had boyfriends every single one of them was an alcoholic and I assumed I was at risk of it, too. then I had weight loss surgery and learned my risk went up because of it. so I am watching things closely. but after a couple weeks of non-stop anxiety the day I came home early (because of the terrible weather) I had wine and it was SUCH a relief just not to feel anxious for a few hours. I know wine should be occasional and to celebrate or be social, not to have at home alone for stress relief. I know this. Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Hi @JackieDecides Of course, I agree you need to do what works for you and I try to do what works for me. I only speak from my own experiences, never offering suggestions to others unless they ask. Hope you are feeling WD Normal. I think I'm OK. Got a taste of adrenaline rush early this morning when I woke up. Didn't like it one bit. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Status Feeling Good. Got to sleep OK past few nights. No sleep aids. Woke up a lot, but that's my normal. Felt groggy when I woke up at 6 a.m. like I wanted to sleep more, but the cortisol troll came knocking so I got the heck out of bed. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Rachellynn Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Rachel - 1998-2012 Prozac 20mg 2012-2014 Prozac 40mg Sept 17 Remeron 15mg, March ‘18 7.5mg Jan 31 - Feb 13 1/4 - 1mg Ativan Jan 31 - feb 5 - 2mg Prozac, 4mg feb 7 feb 10 - 10mg rem, Feb 27 - 7.5mg rem Feb 27 - March 6th - 5mg Baclofen March 12th - Keppra 250mg March 24 - 30mg phenobarbital Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Gracee said: I only speak from my own experiences, never offering suggestions to others unless they ask. I am very glad to hear about your experiences, Gracee. 34 minutes ago, Gracee said: Got to sleep OK past few nights excellent! Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Update: Dropped dose today from 33.75 to 33. Have some concerns about accuracy of digital scale so will take that in consideration re upcoming WD symptoms. Planning liquid taper after next drop, but don't want to think too far ahead. One day at a time. G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 19, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 19, 2019 Hi Gracee, I’m just wondering why you dropped so soon? It’s best to hold for at least a month. You’ve only held for just over a fortnight. It’s too soon. I know you like going quickly, when you first came here you said you had three unsuccessful attempts at trying to taper. If you go quick again the same thing will happen. Take care💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, Carmie said: Hi Gracee, I’m just wondering why you dropped so soon? It’s best to hold for at least a month. 💚 OK, Carmie, Good point and thank you for keeping me in line. I'll go back up to my previous dose and stay there. See, this is exactly why I need you, my friend. 💖 Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Gracee said: I'll go back up to my previous dose and stay there. I'm glad, you need to hold a bit and take care of yourself. no rush!! Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, JackieDecides said: I'm glad, you need to hold a bit and take care of yourself. no rush!! You are right. I've been feeling so good, my sneaky brain was telling me I could taper again. Sometimes I think what I really need is a brain transplant. Thanks for checking up on me. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
shawny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 @Gracee : I m glad u had windows and ur feelling gud ❤️ with respect to tinnitus , let it fade into the background dont gv it much thought and let it be there ❤️ ur gonna be fine soon Sept 28 : nov 10 amitriptyline 10 mg no history of drugs in past symptoms mild grainy vision , visual snow tinnitus dizziness floters difficult in focusin muscle pain Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 20, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Gracee said: OK, Carmie, Good point and thank you for keeping me in line. I'll go back up to my previous dose and stay there. See, this is exactly why I need you, my friend. 💖 Glad to see you will be going slower Gracee, You can get off these meds this time if you go slow and have long holds. You failed the last three times because you always went too quick. Slow and steady does it. We can win this battle.💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Rachellynn Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Sending love @Gracee ❤️❤️❤️ Rachel - 1998-2012 Prozac 20mg 2012-2014 Prozac 40mg Sept 17 Remeron 15mg, March ‘18 7.5mg Jan 31 - Feb 13 1/4 - 1mg Ativan Jan 31 - feb 5 - 2mg Prozac, 4mg feb 7 feb 10 - 10mg rem, Feb 27 - 7.5mg rem Feb 27 - March 6th - 5mg Baclofen March 12th - Keppra 250mg March 24 - 30mg phenobarbital Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 @Rachellynn, @Carmie, @shawny Thank you for the support, my Friends. You are all right, of course. Fast taper is just plain dumb. So, I've marked my taper calendar and will Stay Small. Stay Slow. Stay Steady. When I am in my head, I am in enemy territory. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Rachellynn Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Wish i was smart like you friend❤️ Rachel - 1998-2012 Prozac 20mg 2012-2014 Prozac 40mg Sept 17 Remeron 15mg, March ‘18 7.5mg Jan 31 - Feb 13 1/4 - 1mg Ativan Jan 31 - feb 5 - 2mg Prozac, 4mg feb 7 feb 10 - 10mg rem, Feb 27 - 7.5mg rem Feb 27 - March 6th - 5mg Baclofen March 12th - Keppra 250mg March 24 - 30mg phenobarbital Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted February 20, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 2:13 PM, Gracee said: Planning liquid taper after next drop, but don't want to think too far ahead. One day at a time. If you switch to liquid, be sure to do a crossover switch to minimize effects on your system from the change: 1/4 liquid, 3/4 pill for 3 to 7 days 1/2, 1/2 for 3 to 7 days 3/4 liquid, 1/4 pill for 3 to 7 days all liquid thereafter Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 20, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 20, 2019 Hi Gracee, Definitely do a crossover when you eventually go to liquid, as Gridley mentioned. When you change to different formulations you can go into waves. When I changed from my tablets to compounding capsules I went through waves for about three months. I knew nothing about crossovers then. When I went back to my original tablet I did a crossover and it went really well. Wishing you all the best with your tapering 💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Gridley said: If you switch to liquid, be sure to do a crossover switch to minimize effects on your system from the change: 1/4 liquid, 3/4 pill for 3 to 7 days 1/2, 1/2 for 3 to 7 days 3/4 liquid, 1/4 pill for 3 to 7 days all liquid thereafter Thanks @Gridley. Sure do appreciate your reminder and made note of the above fractions. For me, I think the liquid dosing will be more accurate. My scale is a bit wonky, so now I'm constantly weighing and reweighing. Already have the liquid dosing equipment and did a couple of trial runs to become comfortable with the measuring. I'll continue pill cutting until after I'm comfortable at 30 mg.....a ways off. Best wishes on your continued journey. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Rachellynn said: Sending love @Gracee ❤️❤️❤️ I regret making that "dumb" remark; that was just stupid of me. Too late to edit. My typing fingers work faster than my brain which I fear is lacking way too many cells due to long-term AD use. Anyway, tell me about Holy Basil. I am not familiar with it. G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Carmie said: Hi Gracee, Definitely do a crossover when you eventually go to liquid, as Gridley mentioned. When you change to different formulations you can go into waves. When I changed from my tablets to compounding capsules I went through waves for about three months. I knew nothing about crossovers then. When I went back to my original tablet I did a crossover and it went really well. Wishing you all the best with your tapering 💚 Yup, will do. I've been following your thread since I joined SA and your crossover was the first time I'd heard about crossovers. Love reading about your taper experience and your day-to-day journey in general. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Status update: Still feeling very good. Didn't notice any WD symptoms today. Tinnitus, even in evening, has let up, but not totally gone. I wasn't really aware of my tinnitus until typing here. Sleep past three nights somewhat improved. Enjoying this window. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Gracee said: Sleep past three nights somewhat improved. Enjoying this window. ❤️ we will never take sleep for granted again, will we? I hope not. so glad you are doing well. Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, JackieDecides said: ❤️ we will never take sleep for granted again, will we? I hope not. so glad you are doing well. Thanks @JackieDecides, You are so right. A somewhat decent night's sleep is precious these days. Today, while reading, I dozed off for awhile, something I try not to do. Fingers crossed that doesn't mess up my sleep tonight. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Another good day in terms of WD. I'm going to try Melatonin 3mg tonight. I tried this supplement years ago with no results so we'll see. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted February 24, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 24, 2019 Hi Gracee, I’m happy you had a good day, and I’m very glad you’re still holding. Just continue with the slow and steady method and make sure you hold at least a month between tapers and you will get there. When you go to liquid a crossover will certainly be the best way to do it, as you already know. If you continue in a window and in withdrawal normal a month after the last taper you did you should be okay to do the next reduction. Hope you’re enjoying your weekend💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 Status report: Still having good days. Occasional fuzzy head comes and goes which is WDNormal along with manageable tinnitus. Three nights ago, introduced Melatonin 3mg and it may be helping with sleep a bit. Nothing new to report except I'm thrilled we are back in the 70's with sunshine. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 27, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hi, Gracee. If you started at 3mg melatonin, you might find less works better. Melatonin is funny that way. Effective doses start at 0.25mg. You might want to try half a 3mg tablet, see what happens. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Gracee Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Altostrata said: Hi, Gracee. If you started at 3mg melatonin, you might find less works better. Melatonin is funny that way. Effective doses start at 0.25mg. You might want to try half a 3mg tablet, see what happens. Thanks @Altostrata. I will do that and report results in a few days. Your input is priceless. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment
JackieDecides Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Does anyone know what is a good brand? I know a lot of supplements out there don't necessarily have what they're supposed to have in them, and I think I remember reading that melatonin was especially bad that way, does anyone know? Gracee I hope yours helps you! Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut) Famotidine once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes) magnesium 200 mg at night as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000" off Lexapro as of 5/2018 - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. Link to comment
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