BfromNJ: mirtazapine taper

[BfromNJ]

57 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

 

It was said right from the beginning that you could move the partial dose 1 hour per day.  The reason for me suggesting only 1/2 hour was to try to reduce any anxiety you have about it.

I think I may end up doing that.  Otherwise it seems too long. 

[BfromNJ]

1 hour ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Q:  What is your reason for having the MRI?

 

Q:  How long have you had this problem (for which you are having the MRI)?

 

Q:  When did you find out that you would be having the MRI?

 

Personally I think it is more likely that the worsening of symptoms is related to this (the issue and the procedure) and NOT the dose splitting.  It is normal for people to have trouble with their sleep when they have an upcoming procedure.  From what I can recall from your previous posts your PGAD worsens when you are stressed.

 

Please re-read the posts which have been made explaining about the dose splitting.

Its been scheduled for about two weeks i think..  I cant believe how well I did during it.  Lol.  No heart pounding.  I am being checked for triimengal nerve problem (which actually has gotten better) and tremors- yes I know could be med and withdrawal related.  Its been a few months.  But its done and went fine.  Hopefully things calm down now.  

[BfromNJ]

14 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

It was said right from the beginning that you could move the partial dose 1 hour per day.  The reason for me suggesting only 1/2 hour was to try to reduce any anxiety you have about 

 

[BfromNJ]

I'm having a really rough couple of days.  . The PGAD is worse than I have ever had. I even have it at night where normally I did not. So now my sleep is suffering as a result.  And I have a uti that I will be taking an antibiotic.  Maybe the uti is making pgad worse. Not sure if I should wait on the split with having to take the antibiotic ? 

 

[Colonial]

Any illness or infection can cause symptom uptick.

 

That is more likely the reason for feeling worse the past few days, you haven't moved your med schedule all that much since you started.  You went from wanting to hurry up because "it's taking too long" to maybe you should stop. Neither is most likely the correct answer.

 

That being said, continuing a slight forward progress of either half an hour per day or 1 hour every 2-3 days should not be a problem. It's up to you. 

 

Your bigger concern is the right medication.

The Cipro-Levaquin family is very problematic for people in wd.

Please see the thread on anti-biotics for more detail.

 

 

[BfromNJ]

25 minutes ago, Colonial said:

Any illness or infection can cause symptom uptick.

 

That is more likely the reason for feeling worse the past few days, you haven't moved your med schedule all that much since you started.  You went from wanting to hurry up because "it's taking too long" to maybe you should stop. Neither is most likely the correct answer.

 

That being said, continuing a slight forward progress of either half an hour per day or 1 hour every 2-3 days should not be a problem. It's up to you. 

 

Your bigger concern is the right medication.

The Cipro-Levaquin family is very problematic for people in wd.

Please see the thread on anti-biotics for more detail.

 

 

Yes I know about the antibiotics.  I have augmentin.   And when I said I wanted to move things along I didn't know about the infection.     I just thought if I keep going and take the antibiotic I won't know what may cause any symptoms. 

[Colonial]

Again, this is another one of those issues that no one can really say either way.

All you can do is whatever you feel most comfortable.

There's really no way to answer something with 3 variables: illness, antibiotic, med splitting.

As before, go as slow or as fast as you feel secure.

 

[BfromNJ]

8 minutes ago, Colonial said:

Again, this is another one of those issues that no one can really say either way.

All you can do is whatever you feel most comfortable.

There's really no way to answer something with 3 variables: illness, antibiotic, med splitting.

As before, go as slow or as fast as you feel secure.

 

Ugh. So tough.  lol  

[BfromNJ]

So last night i was at 6:30pm/10pm for my split.  Yesterday i noticed an uptick in my tinnitus and some sensitivity to noise along with this weird sensation in the middle of my head.  Not sure if that would be brain zaps or not.  My tinnitus has been pretty consistant for a while now, so I hope this settles down.  It was hard to get to sleep and it makes it hard to concentrate.   Also happening today.   This is another one of those issues that concerns me when its been at a baseline for so long.  Sleep is also kind of poor.   The night before last I did take a urinary analgesic so maybe that has contributed to it.  Ill leave that alone from now on.    I hope it settles down.  Not smart I guess to take anything I dont have to with making a change, but I was in a lot of pain.  

 

I am going at an hour a day now.    

 

 

[BfromNJ]

@ChessieCat

@Colonial

 

I am probably once again overthinking it, but the tinnitus is concerning me that maybe i am going too fast.  Yes, I know it may not be from the split.   

 

I was doing 30 minutes a day, but last night i did an hour and I wanted to procede this way, but not sure if thats too fast for me. 

 

So a few questions -

 

 Is changing it up like that detrimental? If I feel i need to  go slower can i change it up or do I need to stay hard and fast on one set pattern? 

 

 Is dragging it out longer bad as you have said you don't want to have two dips in brain chemistry too close together for too long? 

 

Is a little bit each day better (1/2 hour)  or more (an hour) every few days better?  What do most do?

 

I know this is my decision and I have decided to do it.  I think its a good idea.  Im just still confused on whether i need to get there as quick as I can or if super slow is okay.  i want to do the right thing.  

 

 

[Colonial]

At this point like @ChessieCat I am going to have to be blunt.

Every question you just asked has been answered numerous times already.

You have all the information you need to decide your speed, we cannot guide you on this further.

Please reread your thread.

 

Please do not tag me again about issues of split dosing.

We are peer support.

We can't hold your hand emotionally every day as you re ask yourself the same questions over and over.

 

If you have any other questions or issues feel free to tag Me.

 

 

 

[BfromNJ]

21 minutes ago, Colonial said:

At this point like @ChessieCat I am going to have to be blunt.

Every question you just asked has been answered numerous times already.

You have all the information you need to decide your speed, we cannot guide you on this further.

Please reread your thread.

 

Please do not tag me again about issues of split dosing.

We are peer support.

We can't hold your hand emotionally every day as you re ask yourself the same questions over and over.

 

If you have any other questions or issues feel free to tag Me.

 

 

 

Im sorry.  I do read through and i just ask to clarify because the timings suggested have varied.     I just wanted to see which method may cause the least bumps in the road and what is mostly done by others who have had success.  such as yourself.  Like how is was concluded what works best.  

 

[Colonial]

26 minutes ago, BfromNJ said:

you don't want to have two dips in brain chemistry too close together for too long? 

 

That, read in context, was in reference to the 19 hour medication example.

 

Yours is only 12.

You will continue to have a gap until your spread out 12 hours each.

 

 

19 minutes ago, BfromNJ said:

 I just wanted to see which method may cause the least bumps in the road

 

You have been given suggestions from 15 minutes a day to 1 hour a day every 2-4 days.

Anything along the spectrum will give probably the same results.

They all pretty much work out the same at the end of the day.

 

 

[BfromNJ]

6 minutes ago, Colonial said:

 

That, read in context, was in reference to the 19 hour medication example.

 

Yours is only 12.

You will continue to have a gap until your spread out 12 hours each.

 

 

 

You have been given suggestions from 15 minutes a day to 1 hour a day every 2-4 days.

Anything along the spectrum will give probably the same results.

They all pretty much work out the same at the end of the day.

 

 

okay i thought what you meant about the dips was it was bad to prolong it because you have two dips too close together for too long when you go so slow.  The whole splitting thing and the chemistry really confuses me.  My brain assumes its best to just go right to twelve hours because slow would confuse the brain.  thanks again.  

[Colonial]

3 minutes ago, BfromNJ said:

okay i thought what you meant about the dips was it was bad to prolong it because you have two dips too close together for too long when you go so slow.  

 

For the individual on the 19 hour medication, yes.

Since each half dose taken every 12 hours is in their system for 19 hours, causing the double dip.

 

You don't have this issue.

You will continue to have one extended length of time when your dosages over lap, which will continue to decrease the further you spread them out. Until then, you will have 1 dip with nothing in your system that will continue to get smaller as your med times get further apart. 

[BfromNJ]

6 minutes ago, Colonial said:

 

For the individual on the 19 hour medication, yes.

Since each half dose taken every 12 hours is in their system for 19 hours, causing the double dip.

 

You don't have this issue.

You will continue to have one extended length of time when your dosages over lap, which will continue to decrease the further you spread them out. Until then, you will have 1 dip with nothing in your system that will continue to get smaller as your med times get further apart. 

Thank you again.   sorry to have upset you.  I am committed to this and I just want to feel better the quickest way but with the least upset.   I tend to want to rush and then I get confused on things I read as well.  And here I assumed i needed to get there quicker and that going slow was  detriment.  And its hard to get it out of my head that I am still taking the same amount a day.  I am on taper mode.  lol.  

[Colonial]

Current Dosing: 6 pm and 10 pm:

 

6pm-10 pm: 5mgs in system   4 hours

10pm-6am: 10 mgs in system  8 hours

6am- 10am: 5 mgs in system   4 hours

10am--6pm: 0 mgs in system  8 hours

 

The sooner you spread them out, symptom permitting,

the less the difference will be for each category until you hit 5mgs even all the time.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by Colonial

[Colonial]

I'm not upset, but I'm sure you realize there is only so many ways to explain the same thing from different angles. You also tend to ask a lot of questions that really don't have definite answers. All we can give you is basic frameworks and tell you to go at your own pace, we can't decipher for you what every symptom change means.

 

If also means less time for other people when you continue to ask the same questions and we have to refer you back to answers already given. It means less time over all for everyone else. Hope you understand. we simply can't re-evaluate the same issue day after day, the hours add up.

[BfromNJ]

17 hours ago, Colonial said:

Current Dosing: 6 pm and 10 pm:

 

6pm-10 pm: 5mgs in system   4 hours

10pm-6am: 10 mgs in system  8 hours

6am- 10am: 5 mgs in system   4 hours

10am--6pm: 0 mgs in system  8 hours

 

The sooner you spread them out, symptom permitting,

the less the difference will be for each category until you hit 5mgs even all the time.

 

 

Do you mean 10 mg in system if that's my dose?  Because after 12 hours I have 50 % left and then i take my next dose.  I see what you are saying .  My tinnitus is awful and i feel really weird.  if this is from the split im not sure if im better off ripping off the bandaid or slow down?  Since the goal is to get there as soon as reasonably possible. 

[BfromNJ]

Symptoms now-

-Tinnitus increase with sensitivity to noise.  Noises sound "tinny".  Can't watch TV.  Seems to worsen as day goes on.  Unbearable at night.   

- zap type feeling in back of throat/middle of head when swallowing. 

-anxiety when going to bed,  probably due to tinnitus.  

-pgad here and there . Been better  

- no appetite . 

-dizzy or feeling "off".  Maybe due to tinnitus.  

 

Anxiety is bad in am (cortisol).  And levels out a bit but then increases late morning  and  spikes throughout day .  May come  on when pgad flares  .

 

This change in the tinnitus is extremely difficult.   

 

 

[BfromNJ]

@ChessieCat

If I've done one night at an hour split and one at a half hour, is that bad?  Do I need to stick to a definite same amount of time each night?  Did I mess myself up doing this?   I dont think this question was answered that's why I'm asking again. I know you've answered questions on the timing but what about changing up the timing.  I did check the thread.  Feeling really bad with symptoms and im suffering.   And i know i will have to get down to 10 am before i see relief, because of my pattern. I"d love to just split and be done at once like you did! I'm jealous.  Lol   

[ChessieCat]

Both Colonial and I have explained extensively about dose splitting.

 

Personally I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill regarding the dose splitting.  You seem to be hyper-focussed on it which makes you think that any change in your symptoms is related to the dose splitting when there are many other factors which are playing it your situation, including or possibly due to your OCD which you have mentioned many times in your topic.

 

This is the last response that I will make with regards to your dose splitting.  Your question about timing has already been answered.  Not specifically in response to you asking the question, however it has been stated that you can hold if you feel that you need to which is tantamount to saying that changing the amount of time that you move the dose is okay.

 

So because you want to the dose splitting done as quickly as possible it might be better if you move by 1 hour each day.

 

As stated previously only you can make the decision about what and how to do the dose splitting.  You have the information already.  Colonial and I have covered dose splitting in immense detail and we have nothing else that we can add.

 

You might find it helpful to link up with another/other member/s with OCD so that you can support each other.  SA has a lot of members needing assistance.  The staff are all volunteers giving freely of their time.  The mods/mentors can only support a member to a certain point.  If too much time is spent by the staff with a member who keeps going in circles about the same issue then it wears the staff out which means they have to take time away from the site as part of their self care (remember the staff are peers going through their own WD issues) and therefor are not able to assist other members who need their assistance. 

 

Please do not tag me again for any reason.  Thank you.

[BfromNJ]

I'd like to apologize to anyone who has helped me on this journey with my recent dose splitting .  I am sorry if I took up too much of your valuable time .   I will not tag  you on this, but if you choose to read it so be.   When we are all suffering I think its sometimes hard to not feel indecisive in making a change for fear of feeling worse. Or we decide to do something that may not be the best idea because we so desperately want to feel better.  And having a few different suggestions on how to do things is confusing .  But I decided to do it.  I am having a really hard time these last few days. Worse than I've had in a while.  And pray I've made the right decision or my symptoms will settle down.  I honestly did not expect to feel so poorly .   And im plugging along splitting 1/2 hour a day.   I kind of wish I waited but I made this decision and must keep going I suppose.  I dont know what going back will do since I can't really ask anyone.   I have not had tinnitus this terrible in a long time if ever.    I am feeling hopeless and hope its just a bump on this current change.   Not sure what to do if anything .  God help us all on here.  

 

Thank you all again for your time.   And I hope you all do well in your journey  .   🙏

[ChessieCat]

3 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

 I have not had tinnitus this terrible in a long time if ever. 

 

I'm only responding this time because I forgot to log out last night and because I I have noticed an increase in my tinnitus, especially when lying in bed at night, which happened after I had my first AstraZeneca vaccine.  Thankfully it seems to be easing a bit.  It took me a little while before I put 2 and 2 together and realised what I am fairly sure caused it.  The other thing that it might be is my blood pressure medication which was doubled about 2 months ago.  This is why we need to look at everything that has changed.

 

You have recently had an MRI.  I am not saying that this caused the worsening of tinnitus.  It may be the additional stress that has caused it.  Or something else.  Sometimes it can be hard to pin point a cause.  This is why it is good to learn acceptance and just go with the flow to keep the stress and anxiety to a minimum.

 

My last word to you is to remind you that it is a fact that you are taking a drug which does not cover a 24 hour period when taken once a day.  Dose splitting by moving a portion of the dose by 1/2 or 1 hour each day is a very low risk.  Splitting your dose will most likely help with the interdose withdrawal.

 

If you move 1 hour each day it will take 12 days to have the two doses 12 hours apart.  At least you know that it is only for a set and short amount of time.

 

I suggest that you use your non drug techniques and try to reduce your anxiety.

 

Hoping that you start noticing a lessening of the interdose withdrawal soon.

[BfromNJ]

1 hour ago, ChessieCat said:

 

I'm only responding this time because I forgot to log out last night and because I I have noticed an increase in my tinnitus, especially when lying in bed at night, which happened after I had my first AstraZeneca vaccine.  Thankfully it seems to be easing a bit.  It took me a little while before I put 2 and 2 together and realised what I am fairly sure caused it.  The other thing that it might be is my blood pressure medication which was doubled about 2 months ago.  This is why we need to look at everything that has changed.

 

You have recently had an MRI.  I am not saying that this caused the worsening of tinnitus.  It may be the additional stress that has caused it.  Or something else.  Sometimes it can be hard to pin point a cause.  This is why it is good to learn acceptance and just go with the flow to keep the stress and anxiety to a minimum.

 

My last word to you is to remind you that it is a fact that you are taking a drug which does not cover a 24 hour period when taken once a day.  Dose splitting by moving a portion of the dose by 1/2 or 1 hour each day is a very low risk.  Splitting your dose will most likely help with the interdose withdrawal.

 

If you move 1 hour each day it will take 12 days to have the two doses 12 hours apart.  At least you know that it is only for a set and short amount of time.

 

I suggest that you use your non drug techniques and try to reduce your anxiety.

 

Hoping that you start noticing a lessening of the interdose withdrawal soon.

Thank you.  I feel so ill .  Noise sensitivity too.  Dizzy.  Aggitated and exhausted at same time but sleep is difficult.  I hope this all passes.    Is melatonin a bad idea right now for me?   Glad to hear yours lessened.  

[BfromNJ]

5 hours into my dose split.  Almost half way  Chugging along and hoping for positive change. 1/2 hour a day for now. I dont think I will see a change till I'm almost done . 

 

Feeling worse but hope it passes.   I dont want to think its from dose splitting.  Because I need this to work.

 

Severe tinnitus 

Aggitated and exhausted. Cant stop moving

Severe depression 

I think brain zaps

Sleep trouble 

 

Other variables -  mri of brain

Augmentin antibiotic - 1 dose 8/26 and 1 8/27.  Took no more.  (Tinnitus started to flare before this) 

[BfromNJ]

Sleep is declining.   Wondering if  fluvoximine was maybe helping with sleep.   Ugh .  Feel like im going crazy without adequate sleep. 

[BfromNJ]

I am halfway through splitting my dose.  Instead of half hour I moved it back an hour yesterday down to 4 pm. 

 

  Sleep is declining.  3 hours one night, 1 last night.  I'm exhausted.   Pgad flaring really bad after getting a break from it.  

 

Last two nights I did take melatonin not sure if it can work the opposite.  Will avoid it tonight.  

 

[BfromNJ]

If anyone is still able or willing to answer a question for me I'd appreciate it.   

 

I'm in process of splitting my dose of fluvoximine to once at night to twice a day going backwards.   I'll be at 12 hours apart by Sunday.  Not seeing any improvement yet if anything right now I'm worse.  My sleep is awful and I can't even explain how weird my head feels along with tinnitus raging.  I'm wondering if its because right now I'm at a really weird spot timing wise, being at about half way?  Dose is at 10 pm and 3 pm.     If I get there and find that this has not improved things or may have worsened them if it wasn't in fact interdose  then what?   I didnt expect to feel this bad since it was a mild change.  I haven't felt this bad in a long time.   I would sincerely appreciate any advice.    

[Colonial]

3 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

My sleep is awful and I can't even explain how weird my head feels along with tinnitus raging. 

 

On 8/29/2021 at 8:51 PM, BfromNJ said:

Other variables -  mri of brain  

Augmentin antibiotic - 1 dose 8/26 and 1 8/27.

 

13 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

Last two nights I did take melatonin not sure if it can work the opposite. 

 

 

That's 3 separate things in close proximity that could cause issues with symptoms.

 

Dose splitting might cause an issue with sleep if the drug causes sedation but fluvoxamine DOES NOT cause sedation. 

 

There could be some upset if someone changed their dosage time all at once but you've only moved 7 hours in 2 weeks which equals half an hour a day average which is a very modest change since your only moving half of your dose.

 

3 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

I didnt expect to feel this bad since it was a mild change. 

 

I don't think Your feeling bad from this mild change.

 

I think For some reason your OCD has fixated on this particular issue even though we've  pointed out these other issues and you split dosage has been very slow.  Melatonin and anti-biotics are notorious.  I had 2 dosages of an anti biotic and was in a spell for 10 days.

 

Also, if your taking an antibiotic for something, YOUR SICK. 

Illness is a symptom spiker for many.

 

You'll get through it, almost done, 5 more hours and the dose will be split which will be for the best since the process will then stop provoking the obsession on the change being the problem.

 

Rest as best you can and stay hydrated with plenty of water to help the infection-illness, you'll be better soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Colonial

[BfromNJ]

12 hours ago, Colonial said:

 

On 8/29/2021 at 8:51 PM, BfromNJ said:

Other variables -  mri of brain  

Augmentin antibiotic - 1 dose 8/26 and 1 8/27.

 

 

 

That's 3 separate things in close proximity that could cause issues with symptoms.

 

Dose splitting might cause an issue with sleep if the drug causes sedation but fluvoxamine DOES NOT cause sedation. 

 

There could be some upset if someone changed their dosage time all at once but you've only moved 7 hours in 2 weeks which equals half an hour a day average which is a very modest change since your only moving half of your dose.

 

 

I don't think Your feeling bad from this mild change.

 

I think For some reason your OCD has fixated on this particular issue even though we've  pointed out these other issues and you split dosage has been very slow.  Melatonin and anti-biotics are notorious.  I had 2 dosages of an anti biotic and was in a spell for 10 days.

 

Also, if your taking an antibiotic for something, YOUR SICK. 

Illness is a symptom spiker for many.

 

You'll get through it, almost done, 5 more hours and the dose will be split which will be for the best since the process will then stop provoking the obsession on the change being the problem.

 

Rest as best you can and stay hydrated with plenty of water to help the infection-illness, you'll be better soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you responding.  I'm trying to push through.   Doing an hour a day and will be done by Sunday.   I haven't even been able to go to work.     I didnt even have an infection so antibiotic was not even necessary.  🙄   its the tinnitus and strange feeling in my head and ears  that is getting to me.  I cant even hear well over it.  Its taken on a whole new level.  In the past this type of symptoms has resulted from med changes and of course that's why I think its that.      Seven hours of sleep total in 3 days.  😭  I had thought fluvoximine was sedating because it seemed to make me sleepy when I took it at night.  Maybe just a coincidence.  I dont know how to get some sleep with taking something,  because it will just make things worse if I don't sleep.    so melatonin is bad?  What do you mean by notorious?  Hope you are improving.  

[BfromNJ]

I think im starting to go into psychosis from lack of sleep.  7 hours in three days and my tinnitus is insane. I feel like im going crazy.    My doctor wants me to up my seroquel and take vistiril.   She is very concerned.    And if I don't do something she will label me as non compliant and I may lose her as a doctor. Which I will need if I need to be out of work.     She just wants me to sleep and is concerned im going into crisis.    I know we don't wanna go the drug route but im beside myself.   Anything else I can tell her i can try with the least harm? 

 

Bad timing with being in the middle of a dose split.   

[Colonial]

31 minutes ago, BfromNJ said:

Anything else I can tell her i can try with the least harm? 

 

You can tell your doctor I went for 5 weeks straight on only 2 hours sleep a night from anti depressant wd. Many member have gone significant periods like that.

It happens.

 

So yes I couldn't work either, that's a given.

Many people in your position can't but rarely are more drugs the solution.

 

It's not necessarily a sign of mania, psychosis or a "crash" per se.

It's not necessarily an indication of a "psychiatric" illness,

It's the consequences of their already failed medical treatment.

 

 

Melatonin can be problematic in the since it is known to go paradoxical for people as with any other herbal, med, or substance issues.  Then, sick or not, you took 2 dosages of anti biotic. Both of these can cause disruption in sleep.

 

4 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

In the past this type of symptoms has resulted from med changes and of course that's why I think its that. 

 

Yes, I do think you think that, and that's why we keep going around on this. If it is related or not all I can finally say is that like everything in life, sometimes you know things have to get worse before they get better.

 

I'm not saying it is the problem, but even if you thought  it was, sometimes you have to push through.

 

You said you read my last post in my thread. I KNEW I was going to get worse before I stabilized when I changed from the liquid to the crushed pills when I was already unstable from not being able to get exact dosages of the liquid. But I knew I had to do it before I would finally begin to stabilize, which I finally am. 

 

If your convinced it is, than you really don't need to look further. Do what you can for the Non Drug coping techniques and acceptance of symptoms. Going through Your thread you do seem to have a history of expecting "quick fixes" for things and I'm afraid that is part of why your symptoms are so bad, you have a hard time accept things take time and the constant thinking about them and looking for a solution keeps your anxiety raised which gives more power to your symptoms.

 

If I thought you were in some sort of danger I would tell you.

Your reporting  very typical reactions to psychiatric drugs and their wd process.

 

So I'm not sure what you mean by "going into psychosis" if the only thing that's happening is low sleep.

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Colonial

[BfromNJ]

1 hour ago, Colonial said:

 

You can tell your doctor I went for 5 weeks straight on only 2 hours sleep a night from anti depressant wd. Many member have gone significant periods like that.

It happens.

 

So yes I couldn't work either, that's a given.

Many people in your position can't but rarely are more drugs the solution.

 

It's not necessarily a sign of mania, psychosis or a "crash" per se.

It's not necessarily an indication of a "psychiatric" illness,

It's the consequences of their already failed medical treatment.

 

 

Melatonin can be problematic in the since it is known to go paradoxical for people as with any other herbal, med, or substance issues.  Then, sick or not, you took 2 dosages of anti biotic. Both of these can cause disruption in sleep.

 

 

Yes, I do think you think that, and that's why we keep going around on this. If it is related or not all I can finally say is that like everything in life, sometimes you know things have to get worse before they get better.

 

I'm not saying it is the problem, but even if you thought  it was, sometimes you have to push through.

 

You said you read my last post in my thread. I KNEW I was going to get worse before I stabilized when I changed from the liquid to the crushed pills when I was already unstable from not being able to get exact dosages of the liquid. But I knew I had to do it before I would finally begin to stabilize, which I finally am. 

 

If your convinced it is, than you really don't need to look further. Do what you can for the Non Drug coping techniques and acceptance of symptoms. Going through Your thread you do seem to have a history of expecting "quick fixes" for things and I'm afraid that is part of why your symptoms are so bad, you have a hard time accept things take time and the constant thinking about them and looking for a solution keeps your anxiety raised which gives more power to your symptoms.

 

If I thought you were in some sort of danger I would tell you.

Your reporting  very typical reactions to psychiatric drugs and their wd process.

 

So I'm not sure what you mean by "going into psychosis" if the only thing that's happening is low sleep.

 

 

 

I meant i feel like im going crazy.  Losing my mind and im suicidal because of the tinnitus.    I cant even think. 

[Colonial]

6 minutes ago, BfromNJ said:

I meant i feel like im going crazy.  Losing my mind and im suicidal because of the tinnitus.    I cant even think. 

 

Well, the good news is "Crazy" doesn't have a "feeling".

Feelings aren't a  diagnostic variable.

Your assigning your own personal conclusions to symptoms

 

I've been having a lot of trouble thinking my self for 36 hours.

Have to take extra time to concentrate, but I get through.

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Colonial

[BfromNJ]

15 minutes ago, Colonial said:

 

Well, the good news is "Crazy" doesn't have a "feeling".

Feelings aren't a  diagnostic variable.

Your assigning your own personal conclusions to symptoms

 

I've been having a lot of trouble thinking my self for 36 hours.

Have to take extra time to concentrate, but I get through.

 

 

 

You are so strong.   Its the tinnitus that is doing me in.  I've never had it this bad.  I could deal with the lack of sleep its the tinnitus .   Lack of sleep does not help it.  Makes it worse.   I just want to sleep to get a damn break from it.  I dont think doctor or others understand how hard these kind of things are to deal with.  No one can if they haven't had it.  I did take a vistiril I just wanted to calm myself.  Probably stupid. Seems worse now but maybe just a coincidence.    Its hard to even meditate with the noise.   😭  I'll be taking my fluvoximine does soon maybe that will calm it down.    Acceptance is hard for me at least.  

 

If I don't have a doctor and need to go out on leave I won't be able to.   I need paperwork signed.       Which I'm hoping to do.