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1 hour ago, ChessieCat said:

 

I noticed this in your post.

Yes i have deficiencies but id imagine a lot of people on here do, im certain its from gut malfunction from my neurology not from parasites, also im fairly certain parasites or sibo etc dont lead to the type of rage i experiences 

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9 hours ago, Ryguy said:

Theres no way those gut issues can lead to what im feeling...theres just no way . I got tested for a parasite, not sure what the other thing is but no way it can lead do the type of madness ive gone through

 

Yes, there is a way that gut infection and nutritional deficiencies can make people feel terrible. Please put effort into seeing if there's a medical basis for some of your symptoms.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

 

Yes, there is a way that gut infection and nutritional deficiencies can make people feel terrible. Please put effort into seeing if there's a medical basis for some of your symptoms.

If there is no identifiable medical basis then im left with accepting this is a severe form of withdrawal...

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

 

Yes, there is a way that gut infection and nutritional deficiencies can make people feel terrible. Please put effort into seeing if there's a medical basis for some of your symptoms.

Why are you guys asking i put an emphasis on medical condition when everything this site has taught me is that this is most certainly withdrawal? Now youre giving me doubts, ive done everything i can regarding searching for other medical issues, ive looked at this for years....from all angles. 

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Because sometimes people have medical conditions as well as withdrawal syndrome, and sometimes people mistake symptoms from medical conditions for withdrawal syndrome symptoms. You have to use common sense and whatever tests are available to distinguish medical symptoms.

 

1 hour ago, Ryguy said:

If there is no identifiable medical basis then im left with accepting this is a severe form of withdrawal...

 

And if there is an identifiable medical condition, you may feel somewhat better if it is treated.

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On 11/18/2020 at 8:18 AM, Ryguy said:

 

Can u quickly let me know if your experiences with cyproheptadine were negative overall or positive ? Will the body recognize it as an antidepressant ? I took some and i felt it set me back a lot, like i just took an ssri....after 10 years in withdrawal this is scaring me quite a lot 

 

 

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

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On 11/17/2020 at 3:54 PM, Ryguy said:

If there is no identifiable medical basis then im left with accepting this is a severe form of withdrawal...

 

On 11/22/2020 at 6:34 PM, ChessieCat said:
  On 11/17/2020 at 4:18 PM, Ryguy said:

 

Can u quickly let me know if your experiences with cyproheptadine were negative overall or positive ? Will the body recognize it as an antidepressant ? I took some and i felt it set me back a lot, like i just took an ssri....after 10 years in withdrawal this is scaring me quite a lot 

 

I looked up the side effects and possible adverse reaction for cyproheptadine, they can be pretty disturbing. 

As Alto said their are sometimes more obvious reasons to feeling poorly than everything having to be withdrawal.

There are only so many ways our bodies can register distress.

We sometimes wrongly assume a returning symptom must be for the same reason as why we had it last time.

Add that med on top of nutritional deficiencies and it's easy to see why emphasis is being placed on working out other medical issues.

Obviously you had an underlining condition to begin with or you would not be taking it.

Please review the thread on possible reactions to other medications complicating your withdrawal experience.

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 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs 8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg,(syringe change issue date?) 4/22/19 0.60 mg, 5/24/19 0.60 mg, 7/7/19 0.52 mgs, 8/4/19 0.44mgs, 11/4/19 0.36mgs, 2/1/20 0.28mgs, 3/1/20 0.24mgs (crash April 6) Compound started 6/28/21: 0.24mgs, 8/29/21: 0.22mgs, 10/31/21: 0.20mgs, 1/03/22: 0.18mgs, 3/5/22: 0.16mgs, 5/5/22: 0.14mgs.

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

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9 hours ago, Colonial said:

 

 

I looked up the side effects and possible adverse reaction for cyproheptadine, they can be pretty disturbing. 

As Alto said their are sometimes more obvious reasons to feeling poorly than everything having to be withdrawal.

There are only so many ways our bodies can register distress.

We sometimes wrongly assume a returning symptom must be for the same reason as why we had it last time.

Add that med on top of nutritional deficiencies and it's easy to see why emphasis is being placed on working out other medical issues.

Obviously you had an underlining condition to begin with or you would not be taking it.

Please review the thread on possible reactions to other medications complicating your withdrawal experience.

there's no way the fainting, seizures, hallucinations, skin issues, temperature issues, numbness, mood swings like you wouldn't believe, severe anger beyond imagination is from gut infection, I've been tested for parasites, ive been tested for lyme , all negative....i have stomach issues like crazy but they are mainly spams and sharp shooting pains, its related to my withdrawal I'm convinced of this, the past ten years ive done NOTHING but look for other causes and they have been only negative. yes cyproheptadine has adverse effects but it also antagonizes major receptors that have been down regulated by SSRIS and i had a really good reaction at first from it then the next two days my mood went haywire and then it rebounded and i feel fine again, better then before i took it, im assuming its significant, its also known as the only drug with a chemical profile that can reverse PSSD. i know this site condemns drugs, but sometimes i feel if a drug did something bad, the only way to reverse it would be through another drug, it makes sense to me. also cypro can't lead to any permanent issues as far as im concerned. it set me back but i had a rebound. 

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Yes, a gut problem and consequent malnutrition can cause many of those symptoms.

 

You could have post-acute withdrawal syndrome AND a gut condition that might be treatable or you may be able to manage it. It's your responsibility to look into possible medical conditions. We can't wave any wands to relieve your symptoms.

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On 11/25/2020 at 11:10 PM, Ryguy said:

but sometimes i feel if a drug did something bad, the only way to reverse it would be through another drug, it makes sense to me. also cypro can't lead to any permanent issues as far as im concerned. it set me back but i had a rebound. 

 

Well, that's wonderful news if by rebound You mean your starting to feel better.  As for feeling if a drug did something the only way to reverse it would be another drug, that is the established prejudice that all of us as a society have been brought to believe. It is so ingrained in us all from very young that medicine has all the answers when it comes to having a quick fix to a distressing problem. The sad fact for many in WD is that meds that they once could have or did take before WD now make their WD worse as they interact with a compromised part of our system that's overloaded with too much stimuli and needs time to heal. 

 

So without dismissing protracted WD, how we and our body reacts to that over time came lead to other issues, especially if our nutrition tanks over time due to not feeling well. Hope your feeling better soon.

 

 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs 8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg,(syringe change issue date?) 4/22/19 0.60 mg, 5/24/19 0.60 mg, 7/7/19 0.52 mgs, 8/4/19 0.44mgs, 11/4/19 0.36mgs, 2/1/20 0.28mgs, 3/1/20 0.24mgs (crash April 6) Compound started 6/28/21: 0.24mgs, 8/29/21: 0.22mgs, 10/31/21: 0.20mgs, 1/03/22: 0.18mgs, 3/5/22: 0.16mgs, 5/5/22: 0.14mgs.

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

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22 hours ago, Ryguy said:

Nothing helps the acne, if i have a flare up my whole body goes insane including my skin, scars get deeper every single day...this withdrawal has ruined the best years of my life and when i do recover, if i ever do, im left with it stealing from me even when its gone. Ive lost hope basically now, im hanging on just cause i dont know anything else at this point. Yea ive told the website admins whats going on, theyve suggested i look into other health issues, which i have done for ten years, ive tested everything u can imagine...i just cant believe how badly it effected me physically, i didnt know such a thing was even possible, no supplement works, nothings treated anything. 

 

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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18 hours ago, Colonial said:

 

Well, that's wonderful news if by rebound You mean your starting to feel better.  As for feeling if a drug did something the only way to reverse it would be another drug, that is the established prejudice that all of us as a society have been brought to believe. It is so ingrained in us all from very young that medicine has all the answers when it comes to having a quick fix to a distressing problem. The sad fact for many in WD is that meds that they once could have or did take before WD now make their WD worse as they interact with a compromised part of our system that's overloaded with too much stimuli and needs time to heal. 

 

So without dismissing protracted WD, how we and our body reacts to that over time came lead to other issues, especially if our nutrition tanks over time due to not feeling well. Hope your feeling better soon.

 

I believe in the future there will be a drug protocol for protracted. I dont believe its prejudice because for me it makes sense that something powerful enough to damage the brain must be solved with something powerful enough to heal it...its not “drugs” that im interested in, its chemical compounds that could potentially help. Theres no the way the natural way is right all the time...its gotta be more nuanced...for pssd cyproheptadine apparently offers a lot of promise for people, lets see what happens in future 

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On 11/28/2020 at 9:04 AM, Ryguy said:

believe in the future there will be a drug protocol for protracted. I dont believe its prejudice because for me it makes sense that something powerful enough to damage the brain must be solved with something powerful enough to heal it.

 

I think the subconscious prejudice we have all been taught is seen in that very reply. One would hope that they would just "solve" the issue by fixing what's wrong with the drug that provokes the response to begin with, instead of formulating a new protocol to deal with the secondary or tertiary problem due to the drug. Instead of reducing  the harm of the drug, we make a new drug to compensate for the damage it does. It's the same underlining thought process.

 

But many of us have long had our suspicions they could have already done what your advocating by now but refuse to do so, since to keep people believing the WD symptoms is proof of a supposed "mental illness" is big profit for big pharma.  To "fix" the issue would mean they would have to admit it exists and that they have been criminally negligent for so long in being deceptive to doctors and in their journal reporting. To do so would by necessity would need them to admit it is their fault and not the supposed mental illness. 

 

 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs 8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg,(syringe change issue date?) 4/22/19 0.60 mg, 5/24/19 0.60 mg, 7/7/19 0.52 mgs, 8/4/19 0.44mgs, 11/4/19 0.36mgs, 2/1/20 0.28mgs, 3/1/20 0.24mgs (crash April 6) Compound started 6/28/21: 0.24mgs, 8/29/21: 0.22mgs, 10/31/21: 0.20mgs, 1/03/22: 0.18mgs, 3/5/22: 0.16mgs, 5/5/22: 0.14mgs.

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

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Gwen Olsen was a pharmaceutical representative for 15 years.

 

I think the titles of the last two say a lot!

 

Interview:  Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher (51 minutes Gwen Olsen - ex pharmaceutical representative)
 

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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6 hours ago, Colonial said:

 

I think the subconscious prejudice we have all been taught is seen in that very reply. One would hope that they would just "solve" the issue by fixing what's wrong with the drug that provokes the response to begin with, instead of formulating a new protocol to deal with the secondary or tertiary problem due to the drug. Instead of reducing  the harm of the drug, we make a new drug to compensate for the damage it does. It's the same underlining thought process.

 

But many of us have long had our suspicions they could have already done what your advocating by now but refuse to do so, since to keep people believing the WD symptoms is proof of a supposed "mental illness" is big profit for big pharma.  To "fix" the issue would mean they would have to admit it exists and that they have been criminally negligent for so long in being deceptive to doctors and in their journal reporting. To do so would by necessity would need them to admit it is their fault and not the supposed mental illness. 

 

I agree with you on all of this, however i believe there is an answer to absolutely everything out there in thr world, perhaps its very very complicated and nuanced, but eventually it has to the be case that what caused withdrawal will be understood and a remedy will be found...in the mean time im not so sure experimenting is a bad idea, might help in finding the solution, as long as one is careful in their approach.. but to me most unnatural issues have unnatural remedies, like someone kicking my leg, if it breaks ill wear a cast and perhaps take a pain reliever (responsibly)....so for me this just makes sense. Im sure eventually what happened in withdrawal will be identified, even if we have to look at each individual differently, some underlying similarities will be found. Im not indoctrinated, this is just my logic based on everything else in the world, im far from being duped by big pharma

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On 11/30/2020 at 8:50 PM, Ryguy said:

im not so sure experimenting is a bad idea, might help in finding the solution, as long as one is careful in their approach

 

We all have to make our own decisions.

 

However, SA is a site for tapering/reducing psychiatric drugs.

 

It will be up to you to take responsibility for any experiments that you choose to do on yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

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 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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On 2/10/2019 at 9:48 AM, Ryguy said:

has anyone experienced protracted for more then 5 years? I'm on my 7th, has anyone gotten severe acne from this? im afraid it will never end, but I've heard a few stories like mine, and also have seen even 10 years....please if anyone can respond just let me know if this will end 

This post needs to be edited and changed, last year i was 9 years into w  it withdrawal, not 7...if someone can change this id appreciate it, i only realized the exact number of years recently. Please change for consistency

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Ive had a frozen shoulder and a pinched nerve for over two years now its just not getting better and now i cant raise my right hand

 

has anyone experienced anything like this and did it improve eventually? 

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These guys seem to be very good:

 

Bob & Brad on YouTube

 

This is the link to the results for frozen shoulder:

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bob+and+brad+frozen+shoulder

 

The following is the link to their Shoulder Pain playlist:

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8l32k1r15l5uoREcEYXkg2Igf5AArD1h

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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I started having issues with my shoulders after I had been doing some light weights for triceps.  Because I was favouring my left tricep my left shoulder became sore and then my right shoulder started hurting too.  I have been doing what is called "polishing your halo" exercise from a book that I have and they both seem to be improving.  You put both hands above your head, palms down, and interlink your fingers then move them in small circles over your head, x amount one way and then the same number the other direction.

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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We have been urging you to seek medical care for your gut for a long time. I hope you do this.

 

If you need to, please do go to the emergency room.

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Has anyone experienced neuro rage for years and years after you came off drug? Ive had withdrawal for ten years now and the rage is out of control still

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@ryguy I'm deeply sorry for what you have been through with this nasty drug.  This is my own personal experience:  I've had lots of emotions for the past 1.5 years, since getting to a low dose of the Lexapro.  I believe that they are a blend of true emotions, but that they are amplified by withdrawal.  For 18 years, I've been in a chemical straightjacket, and my emotions have been numbed.  So it stands to reason that now that I'm almost off, they are all coming to the surface.  I go through periods where I have a lot of anger and rage, and then periods with a lot of sadness.  Here is how I see it:  the emotions have been held back by a dam, and now the dam is lifted, and so water is just pouring out, because there is such a backlog.  I was never taught how to deal with my emotions in a healthy and productive manner, and I'm learning how to do that now.  For example, when someone crosses my boundary, instead of doing nothing and seething, I speak to the person about the boundary violation.

 

Managing Anger  

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Please do not private message me.  Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you.  

 

***Please note this is not medical advice.  Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one.

 

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg;  started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005,  Jul 8, 0.00.  Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!!  Woohoo!!!

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc

suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg

 

Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 

Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 

Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly 

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