Longroadhome: think I may be tapering Seroxat / Paxil too fast

[Hanna72]

Thank you, I am good. Just started my summer vacation😃

How are you? 
 

[Longroadhome]

So good to hear you’re recovering well!! 
I am continuing my taper and all as expected 

can’t wait to end this nightmare 
happy vacation Hanna 😊 !! 

[Longroadhome]

@Altostrata

 

hi Alto 

hope you are well 

I have made an error when calculating the reduced amount of Paxil I should be taking 

this morning not concentrating Instead of taking 5.1mg Paxil liquid form I’ve taken 8mg 

will It be ok as a one off ? 
 

[ChessieCat]

Just take your usual dose at the regular time.  It takes about 4 days for a dose change to get to full level in the blood and a bit longer for it to register in the brain.

 

You might feel some discomfort over the next few days to a week but hopefully it won't be too bad and thing will settle quickly.

 

Try not to worry about it because you will just add stress into the mix.

 

It's easy to make a mistake.  Other members have done it and  I've done it myself a few times during my taper.  Use your non drug coping techniques to get through any rough days.

 

Even though it is only one dose, it is classed as a "event".  You might consider holding for longer this time before making your next reduction.

[ChessieCat]

It's a good idea to try to put a protocol in place so that it doesn't again.  Which will also help to stop you becoming paranoid about your measuring.

 

Edited July 15, 2020 by ChessieCat

[Longroadhome]

Thank you for your reply @ChessieCat

much appreciated  

[Longroadhome]

Today I am in a window despite inadvertently doubling my dose of Paxil. Done because I was rushing out to work and it was the day to decrease so instead of taking just 2ml (equivalent to 4ml) into the syringe I had 4 in my head so that’s what I did! 
oh dear fingers crossed it doesn’t come back to bite me ..

 

today symptoms have been very low with little to no anxiety. Got lots done at work and have felt mostly fine  A window maybe ? 

 

then why is it I go looking and testing myself for symptoms does anyone else do this ? 
why does it feel weird to feel normal ?

the past few days prior to today all symptoms ramped up . No reason I could think of just a wave . 

[Hanna72]

34 minutes ago, Longroadhome said:

today symptoms have been very low with little to no anxiety. Got lots done at work and have felt mostly fine  A window maybe ? 

Wow that’s great news, Yes that’s a window for sure😀 And imagine you get that feeling with just 2 ml 💪It will only get better👍
 

 

36 minutes ago, Longroadhome said:

then why is it I go looking and testing myself for symptoms does anyone else do this ? 

Yes I have been consumed in symptoms, I think it’s normal because this is a hard journey.

39 minutes ago, Longroadhome said:

why does it feel weird to feel normal ?

Cause we are used to being on drugs, and in withdrawals 

 

This post is such a great read, embrace the feeling and keep it close to you when you need it

Enjoy your windows 🙏

[Longroadhome]

Thank you Hanna 😊

[Erell]

Yay to this window ! ☀️

So happy to read you had calmer time !

[Longroadhome]

Thank you Erell 😊
 

[Longroadhome]

Another better day today with symptoms laying low. They don’t go away but are manageable and I can work around them. 
 

[Longroadhome]

@brassmonkey

 

hi Brass hope all ok with you and you are enjoying good health.  
I have a problem . Last week when decreasing my liquid Paxil dose I inadvertently in a rush double dosed  taking 8mg Instead of 4.9mg. 
that was last Wednesday morning. 
On Friday I turned over in bed and severe vertigo came on. 
this has been happening whenever I lay on my back and turn to my side in bed since Friday.   
I also have Unsteady coordination that came on yesterday . 
my question is have I sent myself into a wave or destabilised myself ?
before this happened I was withdrawal normal no big swings in symptoms. 
 

if it is a wave How long will it take to subside And can I do anything to help the process  ? 
 

thank you Brass 😊 

[brassmonkey]

Hi LRH-- mistakes happen, I think almost every member here has accidentally doubled up a dose. All it does it throw things off for a while, it's hard to say how long, a few days to several weeks.  If everything was fine before it happened things should return to the way they were fairly quickly. It may be uncomfortable, but things will settle down, so please don't add secondary panic to the mix. The best thing to do is take things easier than usual, pay attention to your balance to keep from falling when you move around and let it run it's course.

[Longroadhome]

18 minutes ago, brassmonkey said:

Hi LRH-- mistakes happen, I think almost every member here has accidentally doubled up a dose. All it does it throw things off for a while, it's hard to say how long, a few days to several weeks.  If everything was fine before it happened things should return to the way they were fairly quickly. It may be uncomfortable, but things will settle down, so please don't add secondary panic to the mix. The best thing to do is take things easier than usual, pay attention to your balance to keep from falling when you move around and let it run it's course.

Thank you for quick reply 

I’ll take it easy 

your a star ! 

[sunnysideup69]

Hey @Longroadhome, I'm sure it will settle for you soon  How you feeling today??

[Longroadhome]

11 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hey @Longroadhome, I'm sure it will settle for you soon  How you feeling today??

Hi sunny 

its thrown me into a big wave  

vertigo and unsteady on my feet 

will have to wait it out 

how are you ? 

[sunnysideup69]

Just now, Longroadhome said:

Hi sunny 

its thrown me into a big wave  

vertigo and unsteady on my feet 

will have to wait it out 

how are you ? 

Oh, what a pain! It will pass again though.....remember. It's an easily made mistake, just hang on in there and you'll be right again.

 

I'm doing okay, had a good long window. Been quite productive over the last ten days or so and now, maybe as a result, am absolutely knackered today. I've just had a two hour nap. Some vague sense of not quite knowing what to do with myself, a bit restless, but nothing major. It's easy to forget when feeling good that the nervous system is still quite fragile. So, am just indulging in being really lazy. Although, I did do a 6k walk this morning.

Sending good wishes from London. It's a lovely sunny day here today.

[Longroadhome]

1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Oh, what a pain! It will pass again though.....remember. It's an easily made mistake, just hang on in there and you'll be right again.

 

I'm doing okay, had a good long window. Been quite productive over the last ten days or so and now, maybe as a result, am absolutely knackered today. I've just had a two hour nap. Some vague sense of not quite knowing what to do with myself, a bit restless, but nothing major. It's easy to forget when feeling good that the nervous system is still quite fragile. So, am just indulging in being really lazy. Although, I did do a 6k walk this morning.

Sending good wishes from London. It's a lovely sunny day here today.

Sounds like you’re making great strides forward Sunny 

thats so good to hear 
I’m  so pleased  for you 
Great day  here too just walked Georgie my dog in the woods 

shes loving life ...!!! Oh well at least one of us is 

take care 😊

 

[sunnysideup69]

Yep @Longroadhome, recovery certainly takes its own sweet time, doesn't it? Thinking of you. I'm a bit more flat these last couple of days. That's what waves seem to be for me now....feeling flat and a bit disconnected. Ugh. It'll pass again, but I get impatient with myself.

[Longroadhome]

@Altostrata

 And @brassmonkeyhi Alto and Brass  hope all ok with you Both 

I’m having difficulty 

by accident while calculating my taper I double dosed on my Paxil instead of 4.8mg I took 8mg this was Wednesday 17th July 

two days later Friday 29th July had severe vertigo And from then extremely high anxiety and dizzy spells along with muscle spasms specially in my neck making my dizziness worse. 
have I gone into a wave or destabilised. Do I just wait it out with no changes ? 
Or have I give myself serotonin tox problem by taking too much ? 

[Altostrata]

I hope you went back to 4.8mg Paxil. You'll probably get over this mistake within a couple of weeks.

[Longroadhome]

19 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

I hope you went back to 4.8mg Paxil. You'll probably get over this mistake within a couple of weeks.

Thanks Alto

yes it was a one off accident. I’m on 4.8mg. 
do you think it is a bad wave ? 

[brassmonkey]

The oversized dose probably triggered a small wave but now that you are back on the correct dose things should settle down and return to WDnormal,  but it could take several weeks.

[Longroadhome]

Thank you Brass as always 😊

[Longroadhome]

@brassmonkey

 

whats the CERT occupancy for 4.8mg Paxil ?

thank you 

[brassmonkey]

The charts we currently have available are not calibrated in that fine of increments but it looks to be about 50%.

[Hanna72]

@Longestroadhome

4.8mg 💪

What a great accomplishment 

Hugs to you 💖

[sunnysideup69]

Hugs @Longroadhome. Xxx

[Longroadhome]

11 hours ago, brassmonkey said:

The charts we currently have available are not calibrated in that fine of increments but it looks to be about 50%.

Thank you 

[Longroadhome]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:50 PM, brassmonkey said:

The oversized dose probably triggered a small wave but now that you are back on the correct dose things should settle down and return to WDnormal,  but it could take several weeks.

@brassmonkey and @Altostrata

 

Hi there 

I’m getting really worried I have kindled myself . 
reason being My symptoms are very bad from accidentally double dosing Paxil from 4.8mg to 8mg. Feels like more than a wave. Only did this for one dose . However as I am tapering and have been since February could the instability to my system have caused kindling After decreasing then a massive updose even though It was a one off ? 
I have never been symptom free and started this journey in poop out. 
 

new symptoms are as if I have MS

acute anxiety
Floaty feeling and very unsteady 24/7 When lying down or standing 
pins and needles and numbness in hands and left arm 
severe muscle spasms in body especially head and neck making unsteadiness worse 

burning skin lower arms etc 

 

what’s the best thing to do if I have kindled myself? 
will it settle ? 
I have remained consistent  and stable with my meds since this happened three weeks ago. 

these symptoms started to appear two days after updose and each day gradually getting worse. 

thank you 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Altostrata]

Any other drugs or alcohol in those 3 weeks?

 

How do you feel before and after taking Paxil each day?

[Longroadhome]

26 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Any other drugs or alcohol in those 3 weeks?

 

How do you feel before and after taking Paxil each day?

The only other drug is pregabalin 25mg per day. 
no alcohol. 
I take Paxil at 8:30am each morning because I have slept and usually get up around 7am walk dog then home I never notice any difference regarding  symptoms in the mornings however late afternoons I can sometimes feel very light brain zaps. 
think it’s also worth mentioning I have symptoms around decreasing my medication but usually wd normal,  same each time. I do the brass monkey taper. 
Inbetween tapering Paxil whilst holding Fir the two weeks  I have decreased pregabalin a little each time . Once every 5 weeks since Feb. 

[Altostrata]

2 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

late afternoons I can sometimes feel very light brain zaps

 

2 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

I have decreased pregabalin a little each time . Once every 5 weeks since Feb.

 

Not a good idea to change 2 drugs at once, especially since one of them is Paxil. I can't tell if the brain zaps are from Paxil or the pregabalin reduction.

 

Please stop tapering both drugs for the time being.

 

What is your daily drug schedule?

[Longroadhome]

8:30am Paxil 4.8mg

10am 12.5mg pregabalin 

4pm 12.5mg pregabalin 

[Hanna72]

Dear @Longroadhome

Sorry to hear about your new arising symptoms. 
This caught my eye

21 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

new symptoms are as if I have MS

I actually at one point when on Paxil few years ago, thought I had MS too. Even went to the doctor to have it checked out. One of the reasons I knew this drug was not good and I knew I had to get off of it.

 

My thoughts are with you. Hang in there💖