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Longroadhome

For my records . 
 

today I had an appointment with an otolaryngologist at ENT hospital .
the appointment  was for my problem with balance floaty boat feeling. 
After a full and thorough examination he said my balance was good!!!  and that he thought my floaty boat feeling was nothing to do with an  inner ear problem but maybe more to do with the brain and signals going to the brain . He said he felt this could very well have something to do with tapering  off my medication as SSRIs mess with receptors.
he then said he thought it was very courageous coming off these drugs after being on them for years and that doctors should not prescribe them for longer than a few months . They should be monitored . 
he went on to ask me if I had support from my doctor  while tapering. 
I congratulated him on his knowledge of AD WD  . 
this  is the first professional I have come across that understands the damage  ADs  do to  the body . 
Thank  you Richard Irving The Priory Birmingham 


October 2004 -  October 2018 Paxil 20mg

October 2018 - November 2018 15mg Paxil 

Nov 2018 -  2x50 mg Pregabalin to help with Paxil WD

December 2018 - January 2019 10mg Paxil  

January 2019 - February 2019  7.5mg Paxil crashed 

February 2019 - 8.5mg Paxil

August 2019 - stopped both meds for 2.5 days meltdown 

August 2019 -  daily: 50mg Pregabalin April 2020 45mg May 40mg June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg

Nov 2019 - 8mg Paxil, March 2020 7.2mg April 6.5mg May 5.9mg June 5.4mg July 4.8mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Altostrata
On 4/17/2020 at 9:52 AM, Altostrata said:

Hello, Longroadhome, how are you doing?

 

The difficulty going off paroxetine isn't because of it's half-life, it's because it is a powerful SSRI that inhibits its own metabolism. The lower you go in dosage, the faster paroxetine is metabolized, augmenting the amount of decrease. In effect, while you are carefully measuring your dosage, the drug is leaking out faster than 10% (or whatever your rate of decrease might be).

 

Paroxetine is so difficult to taper, some doctors routinely switch patients to fluoxetine so they can finally go off. See The Prozac switch or "bridging" with Prozac

 


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ChessieCat
5 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

after chsnge over what will Prozac dose look like . Would it be around half of the dose I’m on now with Paxil this being 4.8mg  so would I be looking at 2.5 maybe?

 

Erell has been doing a Paxil to Prozac bridge.  She is still trying to fine tune her Prozac dose and during the cross taper.

 

Details here:

 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847


REMINDER TO SELF:

I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 17 Oct 2020:  Pristiq 0.56 mg (compounded + liquid)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Longroadhome

Thank you @ChessieCat


October 2004 -  October 2018 Paxil 20mg

October 2018 - November 2018 15mg Paxil 

Nov 2018 -  2x50 mg Pregabalin to help with Paxil WD

December 2018 - January 2019 10mg Paxil  

January 2019 - February 2019  7.5mg Paxil crashed 

February 2019 - 8.5mg Paxil

August 2019 - stopped both meds for 2.5 days meltdown 

August 2019 -  daily: 50mg Pregabalin April 2020 45mg May 40mg June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg

Nov 2019 - 8mg Paxil, March 2020 7.2mg April 6.5mg May 5.9mg June 5.4mg July 4.8mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hanna72

Hi dear @Longroadhome

I was reading your questions about the switch and I thought I should reach out to you and give you my experience with it. First off I have to say that I was guided by my doctor and she was  actually the one who told me about the bridge  and said it was a drug that helped people get rid off Paxil. 
At this time I had not found SA.

We are all different and what might work for one, might not work for another. I was desperate, given so many failures in the past so I took the risk. It was a decision that I am today happy that I took. For me it worked, even with a starting dose of 20 mg Prozac, way too high.
During the bridge I had few days of intense withdrawals symptoms, (especially after I had reached zero Paxil, not a surprise right!! ) then something happened and it was like Prozac became a cotton to fall on. 
I did miss out of work 3 days, but overall I could work and function( the basics in life) 
I also would like to add that tapering Prozac was in my experience a much easier ride. And yes I know way to quickly 😅Do not recommend. 

With all this said, I would way out your options carefully and if you decide to bridge, you need to have faith and go in it with an open mind. 
This bridge helped me become Paxil free.

Enjoy your weekend my friend 🥰

By the way madam Erell is doing the bridge correctly, and I would follow her dosages. 

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2000/ 20mg Paxil  for panic attacks. Many attempts to quit through out the years, without any success.

2019- January started tapering 20 mg Paxil. 
2019-October 10 mg Paxil , getting ready for a bridge with 20mg Prozac Took about 1 month during switch.

At one point my withdrawals were so bad I went up to 40 mg Prozac, but went quickly back down to 20 mg and very soon after that 10 mg Prozac.

Off  Paxil 2019/ November started tapering 10mg Prozac 2019/December 8 mg Prozac 

2020/January 4 mg Prozac 

2020/15/3 .09 mg jumped off

2020 March 16 off Prozac  Quetipine 25 mg used 1 time in 15 months, oxezapam 15 mg used 5 times 

Suppliments: Magnesium, omega 3 fish oil ( epa&dha) D and C vitamin 

“The two most powerful warriors are patience and time” Leo Tolstoy 

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Longroadhome
3 hours ago, Hanna72 said:

Hi dear @Longroadhome

I was reading your questions about the switch and I thought I should reach out to you and give you my experience with it. First off I have to say that I was guided by my doctor and she was  actually the one who told me about the bridge  and said it was a drug that helped people get rid off Paxil. 
At this time I had not found SA.

We are all different and what might work for one, might not work for another. I was desperate, given so many failures in the past so I took the risk. It was a decision that I am today happy that I took. For me it worked, even with a starting dose of 20 mg Prozac, way too high.
During the bridge I had few days of intense withdrawals symptoms, (especially after I had reached zero Paxil, not a surprise right!! ) then something happened and it was like Prozac became a cotton to fall on. 
I did miss out of work 3 days, but overall I could work and function( the basics in life) 
I also would like to add that tapering Prozac was in my experience a much easier ride. And yes I know way to quickly 😅Do not recommend. 

With all this said, I would way out your options carefully and if you decide to bridge, you need to have faith and go in it with an open mind. 
This bridge helped me become Paxil free.

Enjoy your weekend my friend 🥰

By the way madam Erell is doing the bridge correctly, and I would follow her dosages. 

Hi Hanna 

thank you for your thoughts I’m at a crossroad and not sure what I want to do at the moment . Weighing up all my options . 
I value your opinion but I know we are all individuals and what works for one may not work for another But I’m so glad it worked out for  you !!! 
 

 


October 2004 -  October 2018 Paxil 20mg

October 2018 - November 2018 15mg Paxil 

Nov 2018 -  2x50 mg Pregabalin to help with Paxil WD

December 2018 - January 2019 10mg Paxil  

January 2019 - February 2019  7.5mg Paxil crashed 

February 2019 - 8.5mg Paxil

August 2019 - stopped both meds for 2.5 days meltdown 

August 2019 -  daily: 50mg Pregabalin April 2020 45mg May 40mg June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg

Nov 2019 - 8mg Paxil, March 2020 7.2mg April 6.5mg May 5.9mg June 5.4mg July 4.8mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Longroadhome

@Altostrata

Thank you for your reply . Would you kindly be able to answer my other questions as this does not cover All

of them. 
 

Thank you so much for your support . I truly don’t know what would have happened to me if I hadn’t of found SA . 
 

I completely agree with what you are sayIng  regarding pregabalin not doing anything and Paxil kicking in during the afternoon. 
 

Questions I have ;

 

if I change  over to  Prozac will I have to remain on pregabalin until I taper Prozac? 
 

after chsnge over what will Prozac dose look like . Would it be around half of the dose I’m on now with Paxil this being 4.8mg  so would I be looking at 2.5 maybe? 

if I remain on Paxil will I eventually stabilise And then be able to continue my taper ? 
 

lastly if I did swap over and Prozac didn’t work what would be my options ? Hanna72 tapered off Prozac after the bridge very quickly and managed it but I’m guessing that’s not what you would advise . 

 

 
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October 2004 -  October 2018 Paxil 20mg

October 2018 - November 2018 15mg Paxil 

Nov 2018 -  2x50 mg Pregabalin to help with Paxil WD

December 2018 - January 2019 10mg Paxil  

January 2019 - February 2019  7.5mg Paxil crashed 

February 2019 - 8.5mg Paxil

August 2019 - stopped both meds for 2.5 days meltdown 

August 2019 -  daily: 50mg Pregabalin April 2020 45mg May 40mg June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg

Nov 2019 - 8mg Paxil, March 2020 7.2mg April 6.5mg May 5.9mg June 5.4mg July 4.8mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Altostrata

Did you read The Prozac switch or "bridging" with Prozac? Have we discussed changing only one drug at a time? What do you think the process would be?

 

I would very much appreciate your catching up on your reading instead of asking me questions every day.


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Longroadhome

@Altostrata

 

Yes I have read the Prozac bridge but it’s not specific to amounts Of Prozac during bridge which ever way you do it . But I’m guessing I have to make that choice  looking at how the bridge has panned out for others who have all done it so different  
 

Regarding pregabalin I was wondering If I bridged could I taper this drug first before tapering Prozac because as you say it isn’t doing anything . 
 

and my last two questions are valid points for me. 
 

I don’t see it as wrong to seek reassurance through asking questions that are to the point and relevant to someone going through WD. My apologise if you do . 
You  have been a great help to me. 
 

 
 

 


October 2004 -  October 2018 Paxil 20mg

October 2018 - November 2018 15mg Paxil 

Nov 2018 -  2x50 mg Pregabalin to help with Paxil WD

December 2018 - January 2019 10mg Paxil  

January 2019 - February 2019  7.5mg Paxil crashed 

February 2019 - 8.5mg Paxil

August 2019 - stopped both meds for 2.5 days meltdown 

August 2019 -  daily: 50mg Pregabalin April 2020 45mg May 40mg June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg

Nov 2019 - 8mg Paxil, March 2020 7.2mg April 6.5mg May 5.9mg June 5.4mg July 4.8mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Altostrata

All your questions are answered in the Prozac switch topic. What do you think your plan should be?

 

Please look at it from my point of view: You decided you would not follow advice. Your plan went wrong. You are demanding my attention every single day to be rescued from it.

 

Does it really matter if I recommend you do the switch first? I would like to have a life, too. Do whatever you think is best.

 

I will ask the other moderators to help you. Do not tag me again. I hope you understand.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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