Hannahe Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Adili13 said: This whole process makes all our fears run rampant. Today it’s akathisia, tomorrow it’s something else. At least that’s what it’s like for me. I think all we can do is recognize what’s in our control and what isn’t and take one step at a time. We’ll get there . For what it’s worth, you may never get akathisia and might just be adding unneeded fear. But if you do, you’ll get through it. Anthony I sure hope... I’ve had some inner restlessness the past couple nights along with insomnia. It’s like a wave of something that runs through my whole body and makes me have to take deep breaths every few minutes. The few times I did dose off it woke me up. Whatever it is, I hope it goes away. I hope it all does. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Sottana Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It will. Just try not to read into it too much. I’ve had those exact same symptoms. The only thing predictable about all of this is that things WILL change. Nothing stays the same 2008: start Lexapro 10 mg which is quickly upped to 20 mg. 2008:2013 try at least four individual times to get off Lexapro, never get lower than 5mg, settle at 15 mg. 2015: again, attempt to get off Lexapro and get to 5 mg. After 6 months, feel i'm stabilizing but go back on a higher dose because of one stressful event. 2016: go to 20 mg from 15 mg due to work stresses, hit severe tolerance for the first time and become very suicidal. 2016-2017: try viibryd and cymbata in an attempt to feel better. Also add Lamictal 150 at some point. 2017: eventually land on paxil 37.5 and Lamictal 150. January 2018: cut paxil to 25. April-July 2018: reduce Lamictal in 50 mg increments till im off August. 2018: reduce paxil to 20 mg. december 2018: dropped Paxil to 18 mg, SEVERE CRASH. March updosed to 20 mg April 11: dropped to 19.4 mg due to akathsia (still experiencing akathsia symptoms from updose) April 20: 19 mg Paxil May 4: 18.7 Paxil July 5: 18.2 July 12: 17.8 Aug 19: 17.5 Aug 26: 17.3 Oct 20: 17.1 Nov 3: 16.9, 8/17/20: 16.6 after nine month hold, 8/24/20: 16.4, 8/31/20:16.2, 9/14/2020: 16.0, 9/21/20: 15.8, 9/28/20: 15.6, 10/19/20:15.4, 10/26/20: 15.2, 11/2/20: 15.1, 11/7/20: 14.8, 3/6/2-: 14.5, 3/20/20: 14.3, 4/3/20: 13.9, 4/10/2021: 13.7. 4/21/21: 13.5, 5/5/2021: 13.1, 12.2 8/12/2021 (slowly microtapered to this number. I just can’t remember the exact dates), 11.8 9/6/2021, 11.6 9/13/21, 11.2 9/27/21, 11.1 9/30/21.....11/5/21 switched to 10 mg tablet. I am holding to stabilize for the foreseeable future. 3/25/22: 9.4, 5/6/22: 9.0, 5/30/22: 8.25, 6/7/22: 8.1, 7/722: 7.65, 8/16/22: 7.39, 9/22/22: 6.91, 10/1/22: 6.78 Medication signature.docx Link to comment
Hannahe Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Can someone tell me what a good and inexpensive pill scale is? I’m at the point I need it. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted April 18, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hannahe said: Can someone tell me what a good and inexpensive pill scale is? I’m at the point I need it. Many members, myself included, use the Gemini-20 scale from AWS, available on Amazon. Not expensive. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Sottana Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Did you order your Gemini yet? I ordered one but have decided on a liquid mixture. If you want, I’ll sell it to you for half of what I paid and ship it to you. Let me know. Anthony 2008: start Lexapro 10 mg which is quickly upped to 20 mg. 2008:2013 try at least four individual times to get off Lexapro, never get lower than 5mg, settle at 15 mg. 2015: again, attempt to get off Lexapro and get to 5 mg. After 6 months, feel i'm stabilizing but go back on a higher dose because of one stressful event. 2016: go to 20 mg from 15 mg due to work stresses, hit severe tolerance for the first time and become very suicidal. 2016-2017: try viibryd and cymbata in an attempt to feel better. Also add Lamictal 150 at some point. 2017: eventually land on paxil 37.5 and Lamictal 150. January 2018: cut paxil to 25. April-July 2018: reduce Lamictal in 50 mg increments till im off August. 2018: reduce paxil to 20 mg. december 2018: dropped Paxil to 18 mg, SEVERE CRASH. March updosed to 20 mg April 11: dropped to 19.4 mg due to akathsia (still experiencing akathsia symptoms from updose) April 20: 19 mg Paxil May 4: 18.7 Paxil July 5: 18.2 July 12: 17.8 Aug 19: 17.5 Aug 26: 17.3 Oct 20: 17.1 Nov 3: 16.9, 8/17/20: 16.6 after nine month hold, 8/24/20: 16.4, 8/31/20:16.2, 9/14/2020: 16.0, 9/21/20: 15.8, 9/28/20: 15.6, 10/19/20:15.4, 10/26/20: 15.2, 11/2/20: 15.1, 11/7/20: 14.8, 3/6/2-: 14.5, 3/20/20: 14.3, 4/3/20: 13.9, 4/10/2021: 13.7. 4/21/21: 13.5, 5/5/2021: 13.1, 12.2 8/12/2021 (slowly microtapered to this number. I just can’t remember the exact dates), 11.8 9/6/2021, 11.6 9/13/21, 11.2 9/27/21, 11.1 9/30/21.....11/5/21 switched to 10 mg tablet. I am holding to stabilize for the foreseeable future. 3/25/22: 9.4, 5/6/22: 9.0, 5/30/22: 8.25, 6/7/22: 8.1, 7/722: 7.65, 8/16/22: 7.39, 9/22/22: 6.91, 10/1/22: 6.78 Medication signature.docx Link to comment
Hannahe Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I ordered it. Thank you though. I don’t think I’m using it right.. I’ve just been eyeing to see if stuff is the same size. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 This is so tough. It’s been four months and I’m still in hell. I’m still trying to get off the morning buspar. I want to be done with this med. I don’t even know if I will ever get off Zoloft. This is a nightmare. I just want to die. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Okay so once I stabilize from this cold turkey and rapid taper... I can start tapering again. How long in reality is it going to take for 10% reductions. I think I calculated it right, but it seems like that’s way too long... 2.5 mg of buspar at night only 50mg Zoloft Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 25, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 25, 2019 It will depend on how low you need to go before you jump. I realise that it seems like a long time, however, when reducing it is better to think in terms of how much we have reduced the drug, not how much longer it is going to take. I have been tapering off 100g Pristiq for 3 years 5 months. I am now down to 3.25mg and I've still got at least another 2 years to go. But I'd rather get off my drug with minimal discomfort than to risk reducing too quickly and end up suffering unnecessarily. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 12 hours ago, ChessieCat said: It will depend on how low you need to go before you jump. I realise that it seems like a long time, however, when reducing it is better to think in terms of how much we have reduced the drug, not how much longer it is going to take. I have been tapering off 100g Pristiq for 3 years 5 months. I am now down to 3.25mg and I've still got at least another 2 years to go. But I'd rather get off my drug with minimal discomfort than to risk reducing too quickly and end up suffering unnecessarily. I calculated about ten years for both, but that seems like a long time? After I stabilize of course... which could take another few years in itself. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 25, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Hannahe said: How long in reality is it going to take for 10% reductions. Using the 10% reduction every four weeks, you will go down by half of your current dose every six months. Taking your 50mg Zoloft as an example, once you start tapering you would be down to 25mg in six months, 12.5mg in another six months, etc. Of course, when you get down to the very small doses, the half become less and will seem very slow. ChessieCat has given good advice about how to think about the taper and the time it takes. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 11:27 AM, Gridley said: Using the 10% reduction every four weeks, you will go down by half of your current dose every six months. Taking your 50mg Zoloft as an example, once you start tapering you would be down to 25mg in six months, 12.5mg in another six months, etc. Of course, when you get down to the very small doses, the half become less and will seem very slow. ChessieCat has given good advice about how to think about the taper and the time it takes. That makes sense! Should I do a more aggressive taper with my buspar since I’ve been on it such a short time? I started tapering after 2 1/2 weeks of use and it’s been 3 months. Now at 2.5 mg at night only Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 26, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, Hannahe said: Should I do a more aggressive taper with my buspar since I’ve been on it such a short time? I wouldn't recommend a more aggressive taper. Though you've only been on the Buspar three months, that's enough for your body to react to a too-rapid decrease. If you go too fast and become destabilized, you could end up having to updose and as a result the taper will take a lot longer than if you'd stayed at the 10% rate. Two other arguments against speeding up the Buspar taper: (1) you're still reeling from the Wellbutrin CT and (2) it's at the lower doses that we have to be especially careful. How are your symptoms now? Could you put the dates, doses and taper rates for your Buspar taper in your signature? Here's the link: Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. Here's the user's manual for the Gemini-20 scale. It's better to use the scale than eyeball it. AWS GEMINI-20 USER MANUAL Pdf Download. - ManualsLib Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I have that scale. I just started using it. Is it okay that I’m only taking it at night time? I weaned off the morning dose. it will take about 2 years to wean off the rest of this with 10% reductions. I don't really know my taper rate. I guess I just did it when I felt like I could? And I wasn’t using a scale until now, but I don’t know how to convert properly from mg into g or whatever. I will look at the manual though. I have been really good the fast few days. Almost normal, but that terrifies me. I know it can always get worse again. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 27, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 27, 2019 using-a-digital-scale-to-measure-doses * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/26/2019 at 9:22 PM, ChessieCat said: using-a-digital-scale-to-measure-doses I tapered down to nothing on my morning buspar dose and gonna do the 10% reductions once I feel like I can on my night time dose, like you guys have said. Considering buspar is supposed to be taken 2-3 times a day, do you think I will have an issue? Its like im withdrawing from not having it in my system throughout the day and then putting it back into my system at night. I don’t want to reinstate the morning dose, but I want this to be as smooth as possible from hear on out. What are are your thoughts? Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 28, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 28, 2019 Please provide 3 days of daily symptom notes which will help to work out if you are experiencing interdose withdrawal. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: Please provide 3 days of daily symptom notes which will help to work out if you are experiencing interdose withdrawal. Well I am already experiencing withdrawal from my cold turkey. I have been feeling a bit better the past few days, but I will write those down and get them to you. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 28, 2019 Administrator Share Posted May 28, 2019 Did you cold turkey the morning Buspar? What are your symptoms? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Altostrata said: Did you cold turkey the morning Buspar? What are your symptoms? No the Wellbutrin was cold turkeyed. I tapered the morning buspar. Symptoms have been very light the past few days. Think I’m in a window. But regular symptoms are crying spells blurry vision, brain fog, dp/dr, fatigue sometimes dizzy and nerve burning. im just worried that since buspar is supposed to be taken 2-3 times a day, that I screwed up dropping the morning dose and stayed at 2.5 mg at night. Im gonna do 10% reductions on the night time does as chessie cat suggested. Take about 1 1/2 years to get off. I just hope it doesn’t cause issues being on one dose, since it’s not constantly in my system. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 29, 2019 Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hannah, when did you go off Wellbutrin? Was in in March? Since you went off Wellbutin, have your symptoms been getting better? Or the same? Don't worry about the night-time Buspar, lots of people take it only once a day. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Altostrata said: Hannah, when did you go off Wellbutrin? Was in in March? Since you went off Wellbutin, have your symptoms been getting better? Or the same? Don't worry about the night-time Buspar, lots of people take it only once a day. I got off in January and the reinstated and had a terrible adverse reaction and went into the hospital and they cold turkeyed me again feb 19th. Im not as dizzy as I was and I haven’t been nauseous or vomiting. No more light sensitivity and a few other symptoms left like the terror and stuff. Still have the other ones though. Since it’s only been 3 months off, I know it could always get worse, which I’m afraid of.... also so nervous about being able to stabilize. I was on 100mg of Zoloft for ten years and a year ago I abruptly cut it in half. How does someone stabilize on half the dose they’re accustomed too? If I do stabilize, I want to be able to stay there for a while without poop out or tolerance withdrawal (couple years possibly) before I taper again. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 29, 2019 Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2019 Please don't worry, you're doing well at 3 months. You are stabilizing. Recovery from a rough withdrawal is very slow, I know it can be very frustrating. Now that you're not taking Buspar in the morning, how do you feel in the first part of the day? After you take Zoloft in the morning, do you have any funny feelings that might be from the drug? How about the Buspar at night? The drugs are very strong, it could very well be that 50mg Zoloft is plenty now. Don't worry about poop-out, it may never happen. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: Please don't worry, you're doing well at 3 months. You are stabilizing. Recovery from a rough withdrawal is very slow, I know it can be very frustrating. Now that you're not taking Buspar in the morning, how do you feel in the first part of the day? After you take Zoloft in the morning, do you have any funny feelings that might be from the drug? How about the Buspar at night? The drugs are very strong, it could very well be that 50mg Zoloft is plenty now. Don't worry about poop-out, it may never happen. I don’t really have anything going on in the am. I get up the same time everyday. Umm sometimes I feel like my vision is off in the am, but it could just be me? The weather is affecting me a lot more now than it used too. I feel like my mornings are getting better? At night I get a mild headache after taking the 2.5 of buspar, but that’s all I really notice. After I take it I’m in bed, so I wouldn’t notice too much anyway I don’t think. Also I forgot to mention that when the bupropion was reinstated the doctor put me on Xanax. I used it for about 6 weeks and started tapering after 2 weeks of use and got down to a small amount and stopped it when they cold turkeyed me off the bupropion again. I was in the hospital when this happened. I should probably stabilize before I taper anymore, right? Im just worried that the buspar messes with the D2 receptor and I don’t want a movement disorder, so it makes me nervous being on it. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 29, 2019 Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2019 Please don't worry about your D2 receptors. I'm more concerned with the headache you get after taking Buspar. When did this start? Did it always cause this side effect? You seem to be doing very well, Hannah! This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
puthappinessfirst Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hey Hannahe, Just stopping by to say hi! You've been through a lot but you're actually doing quite well, it seems. You will definitely make it through this, just don't let your fears run rampant! Easier said than done, I KNOW. ❤️ Celexa 10mg: 2007 to June 2018, stopped CT No meds: June 2018 to December 2018 PROTRACTED WD-- major depressive episode for 2+ weeks Lexapro 10mg: December 12, 2018 to January 19, 2019, severe adverse reaction Celexa 10mg: January 20, 2019 June 24, 2019: 9mg July 22, 2019: 8.5mg Jan 8, 2020: 8mg Aug 25, 2020: 7.2mg Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Please don't worry about your D2 receptors. I'm more concerned with the headache you get after taking Buspar. When did this start? Did it always cause this side effect? You seem to be doing very well, Hannah! I feel like it has been there the entire time and since other symptoms have not as severe the past couple weeks, it’s just more noticeable. Im getting around a little better, but as you know it’s not always as easy. /: also had another question. I got the genesight test done and it says I don’t mix well with ssri’s. However it said that if I was gonna take an ssri Zoloft would be my best choice (which I’m already on) but I would need a higher dose in order for it to work. I just don’t want those genes to contribute to making this more difficult getting off/ or more painful. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, puthappinessfirst said: Hey Hannahe, Just stopping by to say hi! You've been through a lot but you're actually doing quite well, it seems. You will definitely make it through this, just don't let your fears run rampant! Easier said than done, I KNOW. ❤️ Thank you for stopping in! Yes, it is hard to put a leash around this chaotic thing (my brain) and try and control the worries/fears. I appreciate your words. I believe I will make it through too. It’s easier to believe that when you are in a window, I think. Haha! Just hoping once stabilization happens, tapering the rest of these meds won’t be as Difficult as this has been. I know this was a cold turkey case, but I’ve heard that after a cold turkey, if you withdrawal again it would be worse. I guess everyone is different though. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
puthappinessfirst Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hannahe said: Just hoping once stabilization happens, tapering the rest of these meds won’t be as Difficult as this has been. I know this was a cold turkey case, but I’ve heard that after a cold turkey, if you withdrawal again it would be worse. I guess everyone is different though. It won't be. You have gained a lot of knowledge to prepare you for your taper. Many people don't have this knowledge and insight and crash because they are using methods from their doctors, who are moving them along way too fast. If you just listen to your body, you'll be alright. I have a CT under my belt too, but I know my taper will be ok as long as I don't try to rush it. Celexa 10mg: 2007 to June 2018, stopped CT No meds: June 2018 to December 2018 PROTRACTED WD-- major depressive episode for 2+ weeks Lexapro 10mg: December 12, 2018 to January 19, 2019, severe adverse reaction Celexa 10mg: January 20, 2019 June 24, 2019: 9mg July 22, 2019: 8.5mg Jan 8, 2020: 8mg Aug 25, 2020: 7.2mg Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 29, 2019 Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2019 Don't worry about genesight, its results don't have any bearing on tapering. Buspar has always given you a headache? In a bit, we should talk about reducing the remaining Buspar dose. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, puthappinessfirst said: It won't be. You have gained a lot of knowledge to prepare you for your taper. Many people don't have this knowledge and insight and crash because they are using methods from their doctors, who are moving them along way too fast. If you just listen to your body, you'll be alright. I have a CT under my belt too, but I know my taper will be ok as long as I don't try to rush it. Thank you. And yes. A LOT of new knowledge! Unfortunately, I am in this big mess because of doctors, and I will never listen to them again when it comes to this... or probably anything else honestly. This just did it for me. Going holistic after I free myself of these drugs. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Don't worry about genesight, its results don't have any bearing on tapering. Buspar has always given you a headache? In a bit, we should talk about reducing the remaining Buspar dose. I know you said not to worry about poop out, but you don’t think that since genesight says I need more Zoloft in order for it to work, that I have a higher chance of it? Yeah I would love to be off buspar. That’s for sure... I calculated about 18 months to get off at 2.5mg at 10% reductions. Hopefully I’m doing the calculations right. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Just found out there is another buspar shortage! My pharmacy said teva says about mid June to July for restock, but who knows! If that’s the case, I will have enough, but if it’s not Idk how I’m gonna swing it. If I can get tomorrow’s script I will have about enough for 5-6 months. That would be a quick taper, but what choice do I have? Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 31, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 31, 2019 From my life experience (I'm 61 years old) I have learned that it is silly worrying about something that may never happen. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hannahe Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: From my life experience (I'm 61 years old) I have learned that it is silly worrying about something that may never happen. Yes, you are right, but I just want to have some sort of game plan if it does. I know it’s been an on going issue with the buspar. Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
Hannahe Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) I woke up yesterday and instantly started crying and rocking back and forth. Then I started shaking my legs to the point they were vibrating. I went to lay down and just felt like total crap. Then time for bed came around and hell broke loose. I had this terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach and I had to keep taking deep breaths in order to endure it. Every time I dosed off, That terrible feeling woke me back up. I got out of bed to cry a few times and rock back and forth. I got no sleep. It stopped, but I still have a sick feeling in my stomach from it. is this akathisia? I was told it was a mild case. What do I do? How long can this last? Edited June 12, 2019 by ChessieCat reduced font Originally at 100 mg Zoloft and 150 mg xl Wellbutrin for ten years. Abruptly dropped 50 mg of Zoloft April 2018. Cut Wellbutrin in half (75 mg) for a month in December 2018. Cold turkeyed Wellbutrin January 2019. Reinstated Wellbutrin half of 150 xl (75 mg) in January 2019 and added Xanax. ER visit iv of 5 mg Haloperidol. Finished Xanax taper, cold turkeyed Wellbutrin February 2019 and added 10 mg buspar twice daily. Tapering buspar 50 mg Zoloft at 10:00 am 2.5 mg buspar at 9:00 pm Link to comment
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