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Gridley
15 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

t's stuff like this that makes me wonder if what I'm going through is psychological sometimes.  

 

Things you experience, stress or the lack of it, time of day, distraction and the lack of it, location, and many other factors will certainly have an effect on you in your sensitized state.  That's very natural.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Sept.23, 2020 at 0.05mg

Taper is 99.75% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Priscilla
3 hours ago, Gridley said:

 

Things you experience, stress or the lack of it, time of day, distraction and the lack of it, location, and many other factors will certainly have an effect on you in your sensitized state.  That's very natural.

Thanks, that's good to know. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I'm feeling so-so, could be better. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: For the past few hours, I've been feeling fine. Hope this continues. Unfortunately sometimes it is only temporary. Hopefully not this time. Will update if any changes occur. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I woke up feeling fine, lets hope this continues. Will update again if any changes occur. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: Still feeling fine.....could this be for real this time? or will a wave creep in to ruin things?


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I had a 10 minute wave now I'm feeling fine again. I hope this continues. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: Once again, I'm feeling so-so. It's moments like this that I doubt I will ever heal. It seems so permanent. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: As usual, I woke up feeling fine. I wonder how long this will last? 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Gridley
6 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

Update: As usual, I woke up feeling fine. I wonder how long this will last? 

 

The fact that you're feeling good is a very encouraging sign.  Try to accept that there are going to be some bad spells along the way and that this is a very normal part of healing.  Your brain is working very hard to heal, reconnecting and rearranging things the drugs disturbed.  Sometimes everything is in place and this is when you're feeling good.  Sometimes things are being rearranged, so things aren't as stable, and you feel bad.  It's all part of healing.  


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Sept.23, 2020 at 0.05mg

Taper is 99.75% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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7 hours ago, Gridley said:

 

The fact that you're feeling good is a very encouraging sign.  Try to accept that there are going to be some bad spells along the way and that this is a very normal part of healing.  Your brain is working very hard to heal, reconnecting and rearranging things the drugs disturbed.  Sometimes everything is in place and this is when you're feeling good.  Sometimes things are being rearranged, so things aren't as stable, and you feel bad.  It's all part of healing.  

I sure hope you're right. Thnx. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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Update: I'm feeling okay. I guess I'm in a semi-window. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update/Question: Does it really take years for people to heal? I know that's what it says but sometimes I don't see myself every healing....


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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Update/Question: Does it really take years for people to heal? I know that's what it says but sometimes I don't see myself ever healing....


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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I woke up feeling good so far. Let's see how long this lasts. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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I'm still feeling good, just one or 2 very brief moments of uncomfortability. This may be one for the record books!


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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Update: I guess I'm one of those people who takes longer to heal. I just hope I don't end up like those who haven't healed at all. I'm currently having moments of not feeling the greatest. 

 

Cheers,

 

Priscilla 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I think I'm slowly making progress. That's what everyone said would happen. Slowly. I guess I thought I was the exception to the norm and would be better right away like others such as Laura Delano and others that I read about in antizyprexa support groups. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: Once again I think I'm slowly making progress. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: Today was a so-so day. I have tbh, there were moments where I wondered ( as I do just about every day) if this will be permanent. I guess I should remember that this site does say a realistic time frame for healing is measured in years so I shouldn't feel bad if I still have moments of not feeling so great. I was hospitalized in 2016 and took risperdal and was fine afterwards. What is it about this zyprexa that makes things so different? 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Hey Priscilla.  You do seem to be having a lot more sunny moments lately.

 

I don't know if risperidone is really that much better than olanzapine to withdraw from, it's more likely that it's cumulative exposure to that class of chemical that's making it more difficult for you now.

 

Hopefully you have whatever led you to the hospital by the tail now.  I've had to put in so much effort over such a long time, and carefully find the the right help (family were useless in that regard), to find out what was wrong in my world (turned out I was sexually abused as a small child) but it's so worth it in that once you've found all the pieces you can start putting them back together in the way you know they're supposed to be.

 

It's a long haul, there'll be lots more dips and bumps (and moments in the sun 🙂)  but it sounds like it's all on the up for you.

 

Cheers


*** I am not a health professional - your actions are your own ***

 

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

 

10mg olanzapine 2003-06, then 3mg risperidone 2006-2014 to try mitigating weight gain and reduce drowsiness.  Lost a couple of kg but at expense of sleep quality.  3 week test run with aripiprazole Dec 2014, nope.

Round 1:  2015 10->5mg olanzapine (easy enough via 7.5 then 6 2/3).   Hadn't researched, just decided to try it myself.

Round 2:  Feb 2018 straight to 3 1/3mg for 2 weeks - too rapid, reverted to 5mg, read up then commenced finer taper.  5mg-> 2.5mg over five months.  Cuts and holds all done by feel.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2018:  Feb 5.0 | Mar 4.5 | Apr 4.25 | May 3.7 | Jun 3.3 | Jul 3.1 | Aug 2.9 | Sep 2.5 and six month hold

Round 3:  2.5mg and below, looking for zero over a year or two.  EMDR resolved root trauma.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2019:  Jan 2.5 | Feb 2.3 | Mar 2.215 (EMDR) Apr 1.976 | May 1.875 | Jun 1.825 | Jul 1.625 | Aug 1.525 | Sep 1.46 | Oct 1.3 | Nov 1.225 | Dec 1.25

2020:  Jan 1.214 | Feb 1.1 | Mar 1.0 🙂 | Apr 0.88 | May 0.82 | June 0.74 | July 0.69 | Aug 0.61 | Sep 0.59

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Priscilla
On 5/30/2019 at 5:52 AM, hayduke said:

Hey Priscilla.  You do seem to be having a lot more sunny moments lately.

 

I don't know if risperidone is really that much better than olanzapine to withdraw from, it's more likely that it's cumulative exposure to that class of chemical that's making it more difficult for you now.

 

Hopefully you have whatever led you to the hospital by the tail now.  I've had to put in so much effort over such a long time, and carefully find the the right help (family were useless in that regard), to find out what was wrong in my world (turned out I was sexually abused as a small child) but it's so worth it in that once you've found all the pieces you can start putting them back together in the way you know they're supposed to be.

 

It's a long haul, there'll be lots more dips and bumps (and moments in the sun 🙂)  but it sounds like it's all on the up for you.

 

Cheers

Thanks Hayduke, I sure hope so!


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: As far as I remember yesterday was a pretty good day. Today I woke up crying because I didn't go to one of my usual destinations with my family. I currently feel fine I guess. Cheers,

 

 

Priscilla 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I haven't posted in a while because I have been feeling somewhat good. I might have had a slight window today (it passed already) but other than that I'm feeling so-so today. The previous 2 days were good. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I thought that the past few days of feeling good meant that I healed. Today was good but later after I took a nap I woke up in a wave. More precisely, I'm going in and out of wave/window pattern. I long for the day for permanent healing. I hope these windows mean that I'm in the process of healing. I wish I has a more positive outlook but it is really difficult to when your mood shifts so often. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: I woke up feeling good, maybe it's the water I drank yesterday night. I don't usually drink water as I've been too depressed to care about my health. Is water helpful for withdrawals? I just hope this continues. There's been plenty of days that I woke up felt good for a day, sometimes two, and then boom, I'm in a wave again. It's hard to adapt to such changes in mood. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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hayduke

For sure.  Staying hydrated is really important for everyone.  I like the inexpensive filter jugs you can get at the shops that take a bunch of crap out of the tap water, just keep it in the fridge.  Carrying a refillable water bottle round with you is a good as well, you never know when you'll be held up for a while away from comforts.  Good to have a snack with you as well, mixed nuts or trail mix are really good to have to give you a boost when you're getting around.

 

As for me I'm not looking for any one day when I'm suddenly symptom-free, that's not my sense of how it works - it's just a question of learning to ride the waves and they'll gradually tend to settle down over months and years.

 

Life will always still have its ups and downs quite aside from the chemical challenges those of us on this site have to manage as well.

 

But again you seem to be feeling a lot better a lot more of the times you post on here, so take heart from that.

 

I think someone earlier in your thread here posted a link to the windows-and-waves pattern where it says something like when you're in the waves it feels like you've always been there and/or it'll always be like that....if you can remember that bit when you're in the bad bits it should help see you through till you're feeling better.

 

Cheers


*** I am not a health professional - your actions are your own ***

 

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

 

10mg olanzapine 2003-06, then 3mg risperidone 2006-2014 to try mitigating weight gain and reduce drowsiness.  Lost a couple of kg but at expense of sleep quality.  3 week test run with aripiprazole Dec 2014, nope.

Round 1:  2015 10->5mg olanzapine (easy enough via 7.5 then 6 2/3).   Hadn't researched, just decided to try it myself.

Round 2:  Feb 2018 straight to 3 1/3mg for 2 weeks - too rapid, reverted to 5mg, read up then commenced finer taper.  5mg-> 2.5mg over five months.  Cuts and holds all done by feel.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2018:  Feb 5.0 | Mar 4.5 | Apr 4.25 | May 3.7 | Jun 3.3 | Jul 3.1 | Aug 2.9 | Sep 2.5 and six month hold

Round 3:  2.5mg and below, looking for zero over a year or two.  EMDR resolved root trauma.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2019:  Jan 2.5 | Feb 2.3 | Mar 2.215 (EMDR) Apr 1.976 | May 1.875 | Jun 1.825 | Jul 1.625 | Aug 1.525 | Sep 1.46 | Oct 1.3 | Nov 1.225 | Dec 1.25

2020:  Jan 1.214 | Feb 1.1 | Mar 1.0 🙂 | Apr 0.88 | May 0.82 | June 0.74 | July 0.69 | Aug 0.61 | Sep 0.59

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On 6/8/2019 at 3:19 AM, hayduke said:

For sure.  Staying hydrated is really important for everyone.  I like the inexpensive filter jugs you can get at the shops that take a bunch of crap out of the tap water, just keep it in the fridge.  Carrying a refillable water bottle round with you is a good as well, you never know when you'll be held up for a while away from comforts.  Good to have a snack with you as well, mixed nuts or trail mix are really good to have to give you a boost when you're getting around.

 

As for me I'm not looking for any one day when I'm suddenly symptom-free, that's not my sense of how it works - it's just a question of learning to ride the waves and they'll gradually tend to settle down over months and years.

 

Life will always still have its ups and downs quite aside from the chemical challenges those of us on this site have to manage as well.

 

But again you seem to be feeling a lot better a lot more of the times you post on here, so take heart from that.

 

I think someone earlier in your thread here posted a link to the windows-and-waves pattern where it says something like when you're in the waves it feels like you've always been there and/or it'll always be like that....if you can remember that bit when you're in the bad bits it should help see you through till you're feeling better.

 

Cheers

Cheers


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

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Update: I'd like to think I'm doing better, I thought I'd be like a Laura Delano and others and heal right away. It's hard to believe that it may take years to feel well again. I long for the day when I can confidently write my recovery story...


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

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While I am still having many challenging days myself I think overall it gets better as I go.  I'm looking forward to being all clear of the drugs and as much of their aftermath as my body can recover from too.  The time it will take is moderately frustrating, though going slow is better for quality of life in the meantime (like holding down a job), and it's nice to see progress - I'm closing in on 2/3 of the dosage I started the year on now.  And less than 1/5th of the initial script.

 

Don't know if Ms Delano has had such an easy time of it!  A friend sent me this lately, was an interesting read that she features in

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-challenge-of-going-off-psychiatric-drugs

 

I think the inner compass withdrawal site she's worked on that they mention in that article there is pretty good too.

 

Cheers

 

 


*** I am not a health professional - your actions are your own ***

 

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

 

10mg olanzapine 2003-06, then 3mg risperidone 2006-2014 to try mitigating weight gain and reduce drowsiness.  Lost a couple of kg but at expense of sleep quality.  3 week test run with aripiprazole Dec 2014, nope.

Round 1:  2015 10->5mg olanzapine (easy enough via 7.5 then 6 2/3).   Hadn't researched, just decided to try it myself.

Round 2:  Feb 2018 straight to 3 1/3mg for 2 weeks - too rapid, reverted to 5mg, read up then commenced finer taper.  5mg-> 2.5mg over five months.  Cuts and holds all done by feel.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2018:  Feb 5.0 | Mar 4.5 | Apr 4.25 | May 3.7 | Jun 3.3 | Jul 3.1 | Aug 2.9 | Sep 2.5 and six month hold

Round 3:  2.5mg and below, looking for zero over a year or two.  EMDR resolved root trauma.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2019:  Jan 2.5 | Feb 2.3 | Mar 2.215 (EMDR) Apr 1.976 | May 1.875 | Jun 1.825 | Jul 1.625 | Aug 1.525 | Sep 1.46 | Oct 1.3 | Nov 1.225 | Dec 1.25

2020:  Jan 1.214 | Feb 1.1 | Mar 1.0 🙂 | Apr 0.88 | May 0.82 | June 0.74 | July 0.69 | Aug 0.61 | Sep 0.59

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10 hours ago, hayduke said:

While I am still having many challenging days myself I think overall it gets better as I go.  I'm looking forward to being all clear of the drugs and as much of their aftermath as my body can recover from too.  The time it will take is moderately frustrating, though going slow is better for quality of life in the meantime (like holding down a job), and it's nice to see progress - I'm closing in on 2/3 of the dosage I started the year on now.  And less than 1/5th of the initial script.

 

Don't know if Ms Delano has had such an easy time of it!  A friend sent me this lately, was an interesting read that she features in

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-challenge-of-going-off-psychiatric-drugs

 

I think the inner compass withdrawal site she's worked on that they mention in that article there is pretty good too.

 

Cheers

 

 

Thanks


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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Update: Yesterday evening was rough for me. Today (so far) is better. I hope that I continue to get better because I would like to be able to take care of myself. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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Update:  It's hard to believe that I will heal especially when the symptoms that I have don't seem like what others have experienced. My symptoms are more of mental anguish and not so much physical pains like light headedness, nausea, etc. Sometimes I also get discouraged because this is an antidepressant site and I have taken mainly antipsychotics. I think I read somewhere that the healing for both antipsychotics and antidepressants are similar. I sure hope that is true as it would give me more confidence that I too can heal just like those who have taken antidepressants have healed. On a positive note, I have not had withdrawal symptoms for more than an hour today. They may last a minute or two here and there. Although that may seem like a little, like I read somewhere, when you are in a wave it seems like you have always been in and will always be in a wave that's why those 1-2 minutes here and there are so frustrating. I try to see the glass as half full as opposed to half empty however. That mechanism of coping works sometimes...


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

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Mental anguish doesn't sound pleasant at all.  Certainly withdrawals can cause it.  Serotonin and dopamine are huge players in mood, motivation etc, and they are disrupted during withdrawal, esp with CT.  Not to mention a host of other effects.  Walking (in nature if possible) and yoga are two things I've found that help your body and mind find its more natural comfortable state, at least for the day.

 

It might be worth finding a sympathetic clinical psychologist to help you with that anguish, especially if you recall experiencing it before taking these drugs as well.  That support has been pivotal to my healing.

 

Hope you're feeling better soon


*** I am not a health professional - your actions are your own ***

 

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

 

10mg olanzapine 2003-06, then 3mg risperidone 2006-2014 to try mitigating weight gain and reduce drowsiness.  Lost a couple of kg but at expense of sleep quality.  3 week test run with aripiprazole Dec 2014, nope.

Round 1:  2015 10->5mg olanzapine (easy enough via 7.5 then 6 2/3).   Hadn't researched, just decided to try it myself.

Round 2:  Feb 2018 straight to 3 1/3mg for 2 weeks - too rapid, reverted to 5mg, read up then commenced finer taper.  5mg-> 2.5mg over five months.  Cuts and holds all done by feel.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2018:  Feb 5.0 | Mar 4.5 | Apr 4.25 | May 3.7 | Jun 3.3 | Jul 3.1 | Aug 2.9 | Sep 2.5 and six month hold

Round 3:  2.5mg and below, looking for zero over a year or two.  EMDR resolved root trauma.  Samples at start of month in mg:

2019:  Jan 2.5 | Feb 2.3 | Mar 2.215 (EMDR) Apr 1.976 | May 1.875 | Jun 1.825 | Jul 1.625 | Aug 1.525 | Sep 1.46 | Oct 1.3 | Nov 1.225 | Dec 1.25

2020:  Jan 1.214 | Feb 1.1 | Mar 1.0 🙂 | Apr 0.88 | May 0.82 | June 0.74 | July 0.69 | Aug 0.61 | Sep 0.59

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Update: It's hard for me to accept windows and waves, whenever I hit a wave after feeling good for some time, I usually lose hope of ever healing. I sure hope these windows and waves do mean that I' m healing. On a positive note, I have noticed that I seem to be having more windows as time passes. I hope to one day reach 100% healed. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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Update: Yesterday I had a minor wave but today I'm proud to say has been good. I hope this continues so that I can get back to school. 


APs/AD: 2 months - Risperdal 1-2mg for 10 days Aug 21-31 2018, Abilify Maintena 400mg (an injection that lasts for a month) late December 2018 to early January 2019, Zyprexa 5mg for 22 days, first time taking zyprexa was in mid September of  2018 for 14 days the second time  for 10 days was November 8 - November 16, 2018; Mirtazapine for 8 days, Gabapentin for 10 days, Propranolol for 4 days, Prozac for 14 days. 

 

Supplements:  Omega-3 Fish Oil, Magnesium Glycinate Chelated, Magnesium Threonate

 

Note: I am not a medical doctor and all comments made by me are my personal opinions and are not based off of scientific fact and or testing. 

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