Longroadhome Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 22 hours ago, Sassenach said: Thanks LRH. Hope open day went well. Will be glad when today is yesterday☺️ Speak tomorrow Sas thinking of you how you feeling today ? Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted June 10, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 10, 2019 Thanks LRH Terrible yesterday, better today. Did you get video? Good day yesterday? Got to rush leaky radiator to sort. Chat tomorrow. Sas Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Sas don’t want to pester you just letting you know I’m thinking 💭 of you Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Got video lovely 😊 he looked really taken with his game such gorgeous dogs and their coats are so lovely too taking care of yourself I hope ive posted pics of Archie my late GS Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted June 20, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 20, 2019 Is it possible to have had Escitalopram poop out years ago and not realised due to general poor health? It seems impossible, but while trying to create a timeline to discuss with my liver consultant at our next appointment I realised just how long I have been feeling bad despite my liver results improving in the last two years. A discussion on here also reinforced the thought. It is a 17 year story so I will just give the important stuff here because if it is impossible I would be wasting everyones time. Fatigue sometimes chronic has been an overideing factor, have had to sleep every afternoon for many years despite 7 hours every night. Tired eyes when driving to the point I drive very little now. Wooly head and thought processes long before cold turkey. Nausea, sometimes for several days. Occasionally I would wake up, feel well and pick up a 20kg bag of sand and carry it on my shoulder. I could suddenly do all the things I used to do, felt fit and awake. These generally only lasted for a couple of days but have continued for up to two weeks on occasions. At one point several years ago I was prescribed Ritalin which helped temporarily. I have not got very far with the current stabilisation as windows seem to be getting less frequent after some good earlier ones. Any info. comments would be gratefully received. Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
BreathofAir Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Dear Sassenach, Good morning. Hope you slept well. My sincere apologies, I have only just seen your post because I am so used to you everywhere else but on your own thread! It is about time we focused on you, but I don’t know whether you will talk to me about things because I don’t think up to now I have given such a good impression of myself in many ways. But anyway, I would like to help in any way I can and I hope you won’t be stubborn or not trust me to come up with something that might help. I would need to know what you contracted and what other medication you have been on over the years. Also, are you on antivirals now? I will leave it up to you if you want to PM me any information. Again, I do not want to pry - I would genuinely like to help. I worked in healthcare twenty years amongst know-it-all consultants and sometimes surprised them with out-of-the-box or good old Yorkshire common sense thinking. Please put me to good use and let me try to help. R xxxxx 🐸🕷🐠🐟🐸🕷🐠🐟🐸🕷🐠🐟🐸🕷🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾 Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia) Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18 Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18 Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. CRASH 24 April 2019 Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly. Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July Link to comment
DeterminedAnna Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Hello again Sassy, I'm sorry to hear you've had fewer, less frequent windows. Perhaps we all have a tendency to underestimate how long stabilisation takes. I see you updosed on 8 March, so it's only just shy of four months since then. Have you had any external stressors that could have wobbled your nervous system and prevented further windows? (Sorry, I'm playing catchup on your thread). Something you mentioned in your last post – about having to sleep every afternoon – chimed with me. When I was on a greater dose of Seroxat, I got a powerful urge to sleep about 2pm every day – I go drowsy and fatigued, even if I've had a full night's sleep before. Seroxat is known to be one of the more sedating SSRIs and its peak levels happen about 4-6 hours after taking it (I hope I've got the right understanding here of peak levels). In the past, when I was taking my so-called 'therapeutic' dose of Seroxat, I took it at 8.30am... so perhaps my drowsiness coincided with the peak blood levels. I certainly didn't have this afternoon sleep urge before I took Seroxat, and if anything during my teens and pre-Seroxat early 20s, I was known for being an insomniac. So perhaps, all along, your escitalopram has had a similar effect. It's at least something worth considering. I'm not sure if escitalopram is sedating like Seroxat, but all these drugs have different effects on us in different ways, because we're all so different. Even at the low dose you're taking now, it still has profound effects. Can you recall a time before you took escitalopram and how you were with the afternoon fatigue? Can't say much about your liver issues as you know I'm in a quandary about my own liver. But one thing that's always stood out from EVERYTHING I've read (on this site and elsewhere) is that the liver has a remarkable ability to heal. That's my two cents! Hope you're getting some sunshine. Your windows WILL return. x LATEST SITUATION *GSK-BRANDED LIQUID SEROXAT* CURRENTLY HOLDING AT 4.84MG LIQUID SEROXAT (PAROXETINE) DAILY, FOLLOWING 5% TAPER SINCE JUNE 2020 AS FOLLOWS: 1 APR 21: UPDOSE TO (AND HOLDING SINCE) 4.84MG PER DAY, AS 4MG LUNCHTIME, 0.84MG EVENING PREVIOUS TAPERING SINCE JUNE 2020: 13 Mar 21 (CRASHED 19 MAR 21) 4.72mg per day, as 4mg lunchtime, 0.72mg evening | 13 Feb 21: 4.96mg per day, as 4.24mg lunchtime, 0.72mg evening | 16 Jan 21: 5.2mg per day, as 4.48mg lunchtime, 0.72mg evening | 19 Dec 20: 5.48mg per day, as 4.76mg lunchtime, 0.72mg evening | 21 Nov 20: 5.76mg per day, as 5.04mg lunchtime, 0.72mg evening | 24 Oct 20: 6.04mg per day, as 5.32mg lunchtime, 0.72mg evening | 26 Sept 20: 6.36mg per day, as 5.64mg lunchtime; 0.72mg evening | 29 Aug 20: 6.68mg per day, as 5.96mg lunchtime; 0.72mg evening | 1 Aug 20: 7mg per day, as 6.28mg lunchtime; 0.72mg evening (bereavement, didn't reduce) | 4 Jul 20: 7mg per day, as 6.28mg lunchtime; 0.72mg evening | 6 Jun 20: 7.36mg per day, as 6.64mg lunchtime; 0.72mg evening *OTHER MEDS/SUPPLEMENTS* Since my March 2021 crash (above), I have very occasionally taken a benzo, and increased some of my supplements. Please see this document. ———————————————————————————————— PREVIOUSLY From 12 May 19 to 5 Jun 20 inclusive: 7.72mg per day, as 7mg lunchtime; 0.72mg evening. Split my doses in May 2019 as I suspect half-life is more of a factor at lower doses. Further history here. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted June 28, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hi Ladies @Longroadhome, @BreathofAir, @DeterminedAnna. LRH and I have in common that we do not like talking about symptoms or the past as it does not help us. For the record though as I guess I should record it anyway. I started Escitalopram in 2007, I felt pretty good most off the time. In 2011 I began to suffer with tired eyes while driving which gradually got worse. During 2015/16 I felt the need to dose after lunch sometimes, this gradually became every day. So 10 hours in bed a day, good job I have nothing to do🤣. Thank you for your concern. Sassenach Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sassenach said: Hi Ladies @Longroadhome, @BreathofAir, @DeterminedAnna. LRH and I have in common that we do not like talking about symptoms or the past as it does not help us. For the record though as I guess I should record it anyway. I started Escitalopram in 2007, I felt pretty good most off the time. In 2011 I began to suffer with tired eyes while driving which gradually got worse. During 2015/16 I felt the need to dose after lunch sometimes, this gradually became every day. So 10 hours in bed a day, good job I have nothing to do🤣. Thank you for your concern. Sassenach Well Sas don’t know what I’m supposed to say to 10 hours kip .. I’m envious 😊!!!!! its a good long stretch that’s for sure do you actually sleep 💤 for that long or rest or both? youre right I don’t really like to talk about my symptoms But I read what others put and can identify with it very much . And I appreciate they have logged theirs as it makes me feel better knowing im Not alone with these bizzare never ending symptoms. Xx Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted June 28, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hi @Longroadhome What can I say we hunks need our beauty sleep🏋️♂️. Bet you are glad this week is over! Sass Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Sassenach said: Hi @Longroadhome What can I say we hunks need our beauty sleep🏋️♂️. Bet you are glad this week is over! Sass Hi Sas I’m so glad this week is over ! But it’s good to be in when im Not usually as I get to see what’s happening at other times of the day and this week has highlighted a few changes that need to happen . How have you been this week ? You seem to have had some good days ? Sent you a piccy of Georgies patchwork fur curtesy of the vets !! Need to catch up in the garden this weekend lots to do AGAIN. Paul has had his appointment through for his results I’m going with him. What you up to this weekend Sas ? Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Dejavu Posted June 29, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 29, 2019 Hey @Sassenach! Congrats on becoming a mod. You'll be as awesome as ever. Hope you're doing well. Sending a big ole' Texas hug your way!! 2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020, accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave Link to comment
BreathofAir Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Good morning Sassenach, Sending congratulations and best wishes for you on becoming a moderator. That’s very big-hearted of you. You will do a really wonderful job. Bless you and hope you have a great day. Sending hugs. R xxxxxxx ⭐️ 🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸⭐️🐸 Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia) Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18 Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18 Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. CRASH 24 April 2019 Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly. Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July Link to comment
Mentor RichT Posted June 29, 2019 Mentor Share Posted June 29, 2019 Congratulations on being made a moderator Sassenach! You’ll do a great job. Rich ✅ = medication taken now 2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg 2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅ 2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅2018 March Abilify 5mg 2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off 2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out 2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅ 2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg 2022 October began taper of Abilify Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted June 29, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 29, 2019 Thanks Rich Congrats on becoming Mentor. Would like to chat with you sometime about how the mentoring works and what you cover if we can get the time. Sassenach Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Mentor FarmGirlWorks Posted June 29, 2019 Mentor Share Posted June 29, 2019 Congrats on being a moderator: that is a big load and it is appreciated that you're doing it. Prozac | late 2004-mid-2005 | CT WD in a couple months, mostly emotional Sertraline 50-100mg | 11/2011-3/2014, 10/2014-3/2017 Sertraline fast taper March 2017, 4 weeks, OFF sertraline April 1, 2017 Quit alcohol May 20, 2017 Lifestyle changes: AA, kundalini yoga "If you've seen a monster, even if it's horrible, that's evidence of divinity." – Damien Echols Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted June 30, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 30, 2019 Welcome to the mod squad Sass💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted June 30, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 30, 2019 Thanks to all of you. I will do my best. Anyone know where the exit is?😟😟😕😕 Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 4, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2019 Last Saturday 29/6 made a fundamental error and took a double dose of Escitalopram. It was the dog's fault laid in the room yipping to go out. I told him he would have to wait, who am I kidding it was my fault. Sunday. Not great. Monday, lovely window. Tuesday, same. Wednesday, same. Today got up, same but downhill. Like waiting for a bomb to go off!!!!!!!!!!!! 6am tomorrow could be interesting. Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted July 4, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Sassenach said: double dose of Escitalopram. These kinds of things (double dose, missed dose) generally resolve reasonably quickly without long-term repercussions. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Dejavu Posted July 4, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2019 No, I shant allow it! You will rally. Sending you the good mojo!! 2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020, accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 4, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2019 Thanks Hope it is sunny in your thin air, b****y freezing, in july. Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 4, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2019 Thanks DJV. Gridley says I won't die (not yet anyway ) so you will have to put up with me a bit longer. I am not religious but will say a prayer in hope for Rachel tonight. Take care Sassenach Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Sassenach said: Thanks DJV. Gridley says I won't die (not yet anyway ) so you will have to put up with me a bit longer. I am not religious but will say a prayer in hope for Rachel tonight. Take care Sassenach Me too and hope to hear something positive from her later . Just now, Longroadhome said: Me too and hope to hear something positive from her later . Ps. that means we have to put up with you a tad longer then .. Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 4, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2019 A tad, you wish.😈 🤗😇🤗 Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Good morning Sas. a thought .. ”today we are one day nearer recovery” Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 5, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 5, 2019 Good morning you good timing and a great idea for the day ahead have a good day I don't suppose I'll speak to you today after the weekend as you're always such a busy lady Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sassenach said: Good morning you good timing and a great idea for the day ahead have a good day I don't suppose I'll speak to you today after the weekend as you're always such a busy lady I’ll make it my business to! have you heard anything from Rachel ? Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 5, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 5, 2019 No not yet. Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Mentor RichT Posted July 5, 2019 Mentor Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Sassenach said: No not yet. Hi Sass, I feel sad about Rachel. All the stress at home and her illness have piled up on top of her WD symptoms. Now she's in hospital they will probably adjust her medication which may or may not work for her. Let's hope it does! Rich ✅ = medication taken now 2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg 2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅ 2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅2018 March Abilify 5mg 2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off 2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out 2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅ 2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg 2022 October began taper of Abilify Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, RichT said: Hi Sass, I feel sad about Rachel. All the stress at home and her illness have piled up on top of her WD symptoms. Now she's in hospital they will probably adjust her medication which may or may not work for her. Let's hope it does! Rich Trouble is Rich when hospital meddle with yr medication they’re mainly interested in getting a reduction in symptoms and this may mean an increase in one of her medicines that could compound the problem. Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted July 5, 2019 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 5, 2019 @Altostrata @Longroadhome @RichT @Dejavu @Mewr As I am sure you all know by now BreathofAir or Rachel to most of us is back in the care of the Crisis Team. There were times when she seemed to be winning but it seems ultimately that the family dynamic proved too much for her. It is easy to be critical but ultimately none of us really know what happens in other people's relationships, and so it should be. What I do know is she needed support and you gave it to her. We can only hope that those in charge of her care will see the reality, whatever that is, and help her accordingly. Unfortunately at least for the present she does not have the stable platform needed to safely withdraw. I am not posting this as a mod but as someone who feels privileged to know her. May her god leep her safe. This is my personal view. Sassenach Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Mewr Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 As a person who has been communicating with Rachel and is dealing with lots of the same issues, I understand her need for the crisis team. Anxiety really sets off symptoms and being ill on top of it has to exacerbate the situation. Wishing her peaceful calmness. Please know that all who support her give me strength, too. Thank you. Maria Prozac 20 mg poop out after 25 years - September 2017 updosed to 30mg Dec. 2017 Started Prozac taper January to March 2018. 30mg to 5mg Discontinued 5mg Prozac CT. Started 5mg lexapro. both Sept 21, 2018 Prescribed Ativan .5mg in September. Didn’t use. Increased Lexapro to 10 mg Lexapro April 27, 2019 Stopped Ativan .125 mg May 4, 2019. Only took 6 doses Started Hyoscyamine for IBS. .375 daily Started Propranolol 10 mg/ 2x per day May 1, 2019. Heart and anxiety Restarted MS drug Aubagio. 14 mg May 3, 2019 Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, Sassenach said: @Altostrata @Longroadhome @RichT @Dejavu @Mewr As I am sure you all know by now BreathofAir or Rachel to most of us is back in the care of the Crisis Team. There were times when she seemed to be winning but it seems ultimately that the family dynamic proved too much for her. It is easy to be critical but ultimately none of us really know what happens in other people's relationships, and so it should be. What I do know is she needed support and you gave it to her. We can only hope that those in charge of her care will see the reality, whatever that is, and help her accordingly. Unfortunately at least for the present she does not have the stable platform needed to safely withdraw. I am not posting this as a mod but as someone who feels privileged to know her. May her god leep her safe. This is my personal view. Sassenach Thank you for your post Sas. I was really hoping we would hear something today but it seems that’s not to be . I’ve been thinking about her all day. I wonder if she’s in hospital ? Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 5, 2019 Administrator Share Posted July 5, 2019 Thank you, Sassenach, and everyone who is helping Rachel. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted July 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2019 I just wanted to say congratulations 🎊🎈 You are going to make a wonderful moderator. I miss you stopping by my thread. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
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