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This is the second time I have tried to reduce my reliance on citalopram and I have sought more help this time. I am also a recovering alcoholic with 23 years sobriety and drugs and withdtawls are the bane of my life. Over the last 2months I have tapered from 30mg down to 10 mg a day. Doing 20 one day and 10 the next seemed to be ok, but been on 10mg for 5 days and the symptoms have got worse, headaches and light heads seem the norm now and i would appreciate any feedback on reducing further or taking a slightly higher dose. I also take BP controlling tablets.

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2014 was prescribed citalopram 30mg for stress related depression as Iwas attacked on the way to work twice and chased once. I became frightened of my own shadow.

In 2015 I stopped taking the medication and after a week could not function at all so started on 30mg again.

In 2016 and 2017 I tried again, failing both times.

In 2018 around  August my GP changed me on to sertraline, after 1 week I changed back as i couldn't cope.

Mid Jan 2019 went to 20mg and then to 20mg 1 day and 10mg the next.

21st March 2019 dropped to 10 mg and I can cope so far

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Hi Trucker, 

 

Welcome to SA. Tapering from 30mg to 10mg in two months was way too quick. Also changing from 20mg to10mg every second day has caused some destabilisation too, our brains can’t handle that, we need to stay on the same dosage every day. 

 

Stay at the 10mg for now. Before we can give you any further recommendations we need you to fill out a drug signature with the medication amounts and dates you were on them. Just the last two years. Someone will send you a signature link. Thank you. 

 

Wishing you all the best in your healing journey 💚

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Been on antipsychotics, benzos, ADs and opiates for chronic pain. 

Was cold turkeyed and put on and off lots of things. Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward due to akathisia from WDs. When released I still had severe akathisia n was suicidal. Back to the ward and more meds. Tapered off one and have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. Many years of tapering. 

Tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./2019:➡️ March 10=7.25mg ✔️  
April 17=7.0✔️ June 5th=6.75✔️ July 14th=6.50✔️Aug 28=6.25✔️

Oct 10=6.20 ✔️ Oct21=6.0✔️Dec16=5.80 ✔️                                
 2020➡️Jan 21=5.60✔️April 2=5.40✔️May 29=5.20✔️Aug14= 5.0 ✔️Sep 29=4.80✔️
 2021➡️ Jan 31=4.60 mg✔️April 24=4.40mg✔️Jul17=4.30mg ✔️Aug 28=4.20✔️ Oct 11=4.15✔️Nov 1=4.10✔️ Nov 21= 4.05✔️ Dec 13= 4mg✔️

  2022➡️Jan 8= 3.95 Jan 31=3.90✔️March 2=3.85✔️ April 4= 3.80✔️I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

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1 hour ago, Carmie said:

Someone will send you a signature link. Thank you. 

 

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.
 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current Valium dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of May 17: 10.5mg 

Taper is 86% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Welcome Trucker to SA from a fellow recovering alcoholic and AD taperer.  You will get lots of help here from experienced moderators who really know what they are talking about.   You will recover if you are willing to taper slowly, in small increments at a steady pace.

Wishing you the best.

G.

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Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3,  Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin,  Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo.  Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol

2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010)

2011 - 30 mg 

2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5}

Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg

Jan 11 -  33.75 mg

Jan 28 - 32.5 mg

Feb 4 -  33.75 mg 

Mar 4 - 32 mg

Mar 30 - 30 mg

 

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Welcome, Trucker.

 

If your symptoms do not start to abate in the next few days, you may wish to take 12mg citalopram to help your nervous system to settle down. Citalopram comes in liquid form to allow taking small amounts. For information, see Tips for tapering off Celexa (citalopram)

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

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Thank you, at the moment worst time is when I get up, and I find doing anything takes my mind off the bad heads and the blurry vision but will give it a couple of days and will try 12 mg if I get not better

thanks again.

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2014 was prescribed citalopram 30mg for stress related depression as Iwas attacked on the way to work twice and chased once. I became frightened of my own shadow.

In 2015 I stopped taking the medication and after a week could not function at all so started on 30mg again.

In 2016 and 2017 I tried again, failing both times.

In 2018 around  August my GP changed me on to sertraline, after 1 week I changed back as i couldn't cope.

Mid Jan 2019 went to 20mg and then to 20mg 1 day and 10mg the next.

21st March 2019 dropped to 10 mg and I can cope so far

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Thank you all for your posts so far, I just feel better that I am not on my own. I was a bit cocky at first, having kicked the booze, thinking nothing could be harder but I was wrong!!!!

2014 was prescribed citalopram 30mg for stress related depression as Iwas attacked on the way to work twice and chased once. I became frightened of my own shadow.

In 2015 I stopped taking the medication and after a week could not function at all so started on 30mg again.

In 2016 and 2017 I tried again, failing both times.

In 2018 around  August my GP changed me on to sertraline, after 1 week I changed back as i couldn't cope.

Mid Jan 2019 went to 20mg and then to 20mg 1 day and 10mg the next.

21st March 2019 dropped to 10 mg and I can cope so far

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13 hours ago, trucker47 said:

Thank you all for your posts so far, I just feel better that I am not on my own. I was a bit cocky at first, having kicked the booze, thinking nothing could be harder but I was wrong!!!!

 

Definitely not on your own! 

 

The good news is, really and truly, people who heal from psych meds say it is absolutely the hardest thing imaginable, even worse than illegal drugs. So when you beat this, nothing will be harder!!!

Current: 2019: 0.04 mg Paxil!! This is real. Soon, after taking Paxil my entire adult life, I will be free.

Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" almost completely off over a month, at doctor's advice in July 2015.

Self-care includes magnesium, reasonable exercise, mindfulness, this forum and nutrition/eating enough food.

Also on 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!! (which I now will have the knowledge to taper properly)

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Longer version: On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression caused by (undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder.

Doctor kept increasing dose, up to 60 mg; it never really helped but said it really was the best "med" for me.

Rapid doctor-led "taper" July 2015, down to 5 mg, with Zoloft as a "cross-taper" = Essentially a cold turkey. 

Severe withdrawal but didn't know it; believed it was my "underlying condition," and kept tapering, 5mg to 4 to 3  to 2 to 1.  

Feb 2016: Found SA! As of June 2016, tapering from 1mg at rate of 5-10% per month, Brassmonkey Slide! 

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Hi Trucker, 

 

How are you doing?💚

Been on antipsychotics, benzos, ADs and opiates for chronic pain. 

Was cold turkeyed and put on and off lots of things. Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward due to akathisia from WDs. When released I still had severe akathisia n was suicidal. Back to the ward and more meds. Tapered off one and have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. Many years of tapering. 

Tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./2019:➡️ March 10=7.25mg ✔️  
April 17=7.0✔️ June 5th=6.75✔️ July 14th=6.50✔️Aug 28=6.25✔️

Oct 10=6.20 ✔️ Oct21=6.0✔️Dec16=5.80 ✔️                                
 2020➡️Jan 21=5.60✔️April 2=5.40✔️May 29=5.20✔️Aug14= 5.0 ✔️Sep 29=4.80✔️
 2021➡️ Jan 31=4.60 mg✔️April 24=4.40mg✔️Jul17=4.30mg ✔️Aug 28=4.20✔️ Oct 11=4.15✔️Nov 1=4.10✔️ Nov 21= 4.05✔️ Dec 13= 4mg✔️

  2022➡️Jan 8= 3.95 Jan 31=3.90✔️March 2=3.85✔️ April 4= 3.80✔️I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

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Topic title:  Sadness

 

Doing ok on my 10mg citalopram but am now prone to bouts of sadness/ stress. Keeping myself occupied helps but it is ongoing and gets me down, any Ideas anybody?

 

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2014 was prescribed citalopram 30mg for stress related depression as Iwas attacked on the way to work twice and chased once. I became frightened of my own shadow.

In 2015 I stopped taking the medication and after a week could not function at all so started on 30mg again.

In 2016 and 2017 I tried again, failing both times.

In 2018 around  August my GP changed me on to sertraline, after 1 week I changed back as i couldn't cope.

Mid Jan 2019 went to 20mg and then to 20mg 1 day and 10mg the next.

21st March 2019 dropped to 10 mg and I can cope so far

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Hang in there.   You have only been on 10 mg for a month.   Let your body and brain adjust for at least two or three more weeks, then evaluate.   Please, do not up-dose nor down dose at this point.   Stay put. A mod will be here soon to advise.

G.

  

Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3,  Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin,  Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo.  Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol

2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010)

2011 - 30 mg 

2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5}

Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg

Jan 11 -  33.75 mg

Jan 28 - 32.5 mg

Feb 4 -  33.75 mg 

Mar 4 - 32 mg

Mar 30 - 30 mg

 

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Hi Trucker, 

 

I’m sorry you’re feeling down. You did say you’re doing okay on the 10mg though. A month isn’t a long time, it can take quite a while to stabilise when we make changes. I changed formulations last year and went through three months of waves. You will eventually stabilise, it’s just a really slow process as our brain tries to find equilibrium again. 

 

Keeping yourself distracted while going through waves really is the way to go. Distract! Distract! Distract! It’s always been my motto. I do arts and crafts, listen to music, read, do DVD and Netflix marathons, go out in nature, take photographs etc etc. It doesn’t take away the symptoms, but it helps to not put all our focus on the symptoms. The more we stress, the more we can ramp up our symptoms.

 

Take care, sending hugs🤗

Been on antipsychotics, benzos, ADs and opiates for chronic pain. 

Was cold turkeyed and put on and off lots of things. Was suicidal n ended up in a psych ward due to akathisia from WDs. When released I still had severe akathisia n was suicidal. Back to the ward and more meds. Tapered off one and have been trying to taper off Seroquel since. Many years of tapering. 

Tapered from 300mg of Seroquel to 7.5mg./2019:➡️ March 10=7.25mg ✔️  
April 17=7.0✔️ June 5th=6.75✔️ July 14th=6.50✔️Aug 28=6.25✔️

Oct 10=6.20 ✔️ Oct21=6.0✔️Dec16=5.80 ✔️                                
 2020➡️Jan 21=5.60✔️April 2=5.40✔️May 29=5.20✔️Aug14= 5.0 ✔️Sep 29=4.80✔️
 2021➡️ Jan 31=4.60 mg✔️April 24=4.40mg✔️Jul17=4.30mg ✔️Aug 28=4.20✔️ Oct 11=4.15✔️Nov 1=4.10✔️ Nov 21= 4.05✔️ Dec 13= 4mg✔️

  2022➡️Jan 8= 3.95 Jan 31=3.90✔️March 2=3.85✔️ April 4= 3.80✔️I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. These are my own views based on what I’ve experienced myself.

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Thank you every bit of distraction does help

2014 was prescribed citalopram 30mg for stress related depression as Iwas attacked on the way to work twice and chased once. I became frightened of my own shadow.

In 2015 I stopped taking the medication and after a week could not function at all so started on 30mg again.

In 2016 and 2017 I tried again, failing both times.

In 2018 around  August my GP changed me on to sertraline, after 1 week I changed back as i couldn't cope.

Mid Jan 2019 went to 20mg and then to 20mg 1 day and 10mg the next.

21st March 2019 dropped to 10 mg and I can cope so far

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