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It’s a brain-crushing toxin, why is it so popular?
Posted by Erin Elizabeth | Apr 8, 2019

 

https://www.healthnutnews.com/its-a-brain-crushing-toxin-why-is-it-so-popular/

 

i really do wonder about all this. Why do so many millions of people want to willing take these drugs? Given what has long been known about it all, especially anti-depressants. 

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

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Some people like the effects of psychiatric drugs.

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Because we trust the doctors and don’t do the research when we should.  Also bc in a short term some of these drugs do help.  

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Just like Blondiee said, we trust the dr. I was going through a divorce and was severely depressed. The dr put me on antidepressants, "just to get me through the divorce", then the Xanax for anxiety "though the divorce". I was put on them in 1996. My divorce was final in 1997, and I just tapered off Lexapro last month after 23 years. Long divorce, NOT! I don't trust dr.'s anymore. I question everything. I think you have to, or you will end up in bigger trouble.

 

But that's only my opinion...

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As a kid i didn't trust Doctors or the Establishment, but maybe that came in part from my upbringing. As a kid i knew that psychiatric drugs were generally bad, & that a lot else was bad & unhealthy in this society / system, & that psychiatry was on very shaky ground. 

i was forced sectioned / forced medicated 4 times, fought the system from day one, & made dependent on the medication. i stopped all medication 5 times, but eventually accepted needing a lowish dose of one medication to manage what has been diagnosed as severe schizophrenia.

 

i always had the impression & assumptions that maybe 80% or so of people considered that the mainstream biomedical psychiatric / pharmacological system wasn't very good & that there were far better alternatives to healing.  How wrong i was. 20 years ago i started to go on mainstream mental health forums to discuss all these areas & i fully expected most people to be in general agreement with me, but they were not. Maybe 98% of people seemed viciously opposed to my views on everything. i felt like i needed to go on a crusade with all this, but after many years i largely gave up. 

 

A certain percentage of people have spoken out on the current mental health psychiatric / treatment from the start & spoken out on the past 70 or so years of the pharmacological revolution. i don't see what real difference it has made or is making to the direction of mainstream society. Rates of mental illness continues to increase, the amount of people on psychiatric drugs continues to increase. The current society / system & treatment is still as bad around it all, if not worse than it ever has been. 

 

i just find it all very odd, especially in these days of mass information / communication & the internet, why so much of everything is still the ways it all is? 

 

i would have thought that it should be obvious that the current primary biomedical psychiatric / pharmacological paradigm has done & is doing far more harm than good, but still it all carries on the same, & i do blame this mainstream society / culture / the masses for all that just as much as the medical establishment / system. i just don't really get it? Sure i can see a positive to some aspects of psychiatry & the mental health system & some people benefiting from medication, but to base the entire health & well being of everyone on such a paradigm seems insane in itself. i cannot understand how anyone can see it as the best there is & acceptable? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

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With what is actually known within all these areas, & given what has & does go on, you would think that there would be a unified global alternative mental health movement & mass mainstream social movement with mass global demonstrations to demand Governments that there is a transformation with all this & all associated areas - But there isn't, & there isn't likely to be.  

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

Healing Sanctuary - http://healingsanctuary.proboards.com/

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On 4/13/2019 at 1:08 AM, cpuusage said:

With what is actually known within all these areas, & given what has & does go on, you would think that there would be a unified global alternative mental health movement & mass mainstream social movement with mass global demonstrations to demand Governments that there is a transformation with all this & all associated areas - But there isn't, & there isn't likely to be.  

 

As long as Big Pharma continues to have a stronghold on mainstream medicine, it isn't likely to happen.

However, hope does spring eternal 🌺

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8 minutes ago, gentlehermione said:

 

As long as Big Pharma continues to have a stronghold on mainstream medicine, it isn't likely to happen.

However, hope does spring eternal 🌺

 

i think that there is more to it all than just big pharma & the biomedical psychiatric establishment - most people go along with the paradigm presented. 

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

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in my view only the 4% of people that suffer severe mental illness should be being treated by psychiatry & of them probably 80% of them could be far better helped without medication, but some people need it. Problem is we have 20% of the UK & 40% of the USA now diagnosed as mentally ill & on these drugs. If you give these drugs to people without a serious mental illness then it does make them ill. But this is what society has wanted & wants.

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

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On 4/17/2019 at 5:28 PM, cpuusage said:

in my view only the 4% of people that suffer severe mental illness should be being treated by psychiatry & of them probably 80% of them could be far better helped without medication, but some people need it. Problem is we have 20% of the UK & 40% of the USA now diagnosed as mentally ill & on these drugs. If you give these drugs to people without a serious mental illness then it does make them ill. But this is what society has wanted & wants.

 

It's hard to know who the 4% is. I suspect diet has a lot to do with it.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/

Current: Armour Thyroid

 

 

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57 minutes ago, bubbles said:

 

It's hard to know who the 4% is. I suspect diet has a lot to do with it.

 

i don't think it is hard to know what is severe mental illness from 'milder & more common' mental health difficulties.  

& psychiatry certainly distinguishes it all. 

Diet, nutrition & git health is one aspect of things, but it very far from covers everything.  

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

Healing Sanctuary - http://healingsanctuary.proboards.com/

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13 hours ago, cpuusage said:

 

i don't think it is hard to know what is severe mental illness from 'milder & more common' mental health difficulties.  

& psychiatry certainly distinguishes it all. 

Diet, nutrition & git health is one aspect of things, but it very far from covers everything.  

 

Oh, no of course it isn't everything. However, there is research that diet is associated with mental health, and more anecdotes than research which will hopefully prompt more research.

 

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/

Current: Armour Thyroid

 

 

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On 4/19/2019 at 2:03 AM, bubbles said:

 

Oh, no of course it isn't everything. However, there is research that diet is associated with mental health, and more anecdotes than research which will hopefully prompt more research.

 

 

Of course a healthy diet & exercise is crucial to good human health. 

There are also many other factors that can cause mental illness. 

Various psychiatric drug treatments since 1990. Prozac & Stelazine in 1994 for a few years. 1200mg Amisulpride in 1998 for a year. 1999 to current time have maintained 200mg of Amisulpride & increased to 300mg a few years ago, with 2 stopping attempts in 2001 & 2003/4. i stopped all medications 5 times, for around 8 years in total, but the last 3 withdrawal/stopping attempts were disastrous. Am very unsure about stopping medication again. Have recently (in Winter 2018) had to increase the Amisulpride to 400mg. 

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13 minutes ago, cpuusage said:

 

Of course a healthy diet & exercise is crucial to good human health. 

There are also many other factors that can cause mental illness. 

 

Yes, absolutely.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/

Current: Armour Thyroid

 

 

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