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Even though I have no idea what tomorrow might bring,

I am going to think positive and hope for the best. 

 

🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳

 

Goodnight everyone. Sleep well and heal well. Bless you all. Be strong. 

R xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Hi Rachel

Well done for yesterday you got through the day and felt better as it went on.

Try and avoid stress today if possible maybe then we can know whether moving the escit has helped.

Don't forget it stays at noon for now. Hope you have a good start catch you later.

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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14 hours ago, Sassenach said:

I do not think it is all withdrawal.

You have been improving consistently until this stress started again.

 

I agree, I think your system is very sensitive and is reacting to stress.  Also if you've caught a virus that can make things worse too.  You're doing a good job - keep doing what you're doing and things will improve.

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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Hi Rachel

 

How are you today?

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Hi Sassenach, 

 

Better today thank you. Just hell bent on getting through the day without crying and carrying on!  Managed to take my mother out for the day without a fight and do some gardening plus two school runs on my own.  Feeling absolutely horrible full of cold, banging headache and the usual crampy gripes that us ladies are bestowed with, but no, I have punched a fat hole through it all with my determined Yorkshire fist. 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥.

 

Might I enquire how your day has been?  😎😎😎😎😎

 Xxxxxxxxx

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Hey you

 

My day has been pretty good thank you and you just made it one hell of a lot better😎

If you can do all that while feeling horrible you are definitely taking control of your situation.

It's good you have reconciled with your mum and after today maybe she will accept you are capable of looking after yourself, most of the time anyway.:rolleyes:

Don't forget your diary though.

As you are holding at 12am for your escit. it is important that @Altostrata is able to check if she thinks the dose may too high.

Not sure but I think something to do with how activating it is.

Anyway it is what she wanted so there will be a reason.

Ayup there's a reet tuff lass ower theer.

 

Hugs 

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Thank you my friend in the further North. 

 

You have made my day too.😎😎😎😎

 

I will do my daily diary Boss, don’t worry. I don’t think the Escitalopram is the problem, I think it’s the benzos and the fact that I need to psychologically get my anxiety under better control. I know it will take time and repeated practice. 

 

Am hoping to get a few videos together of Snowey and our little village to show you. Just need to get organised. 

Enjoy the rest of your evening and hope you can build further on today. 

Sleep well. Heal well and bless you. 

Sending you a big Yorkshire hug with a nice cup of evening cocoa 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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(cold, sore throat, headache, period)

 

Friday 28th June

 

2.00am.        Wake up. Bathroom. Back to sleep

6.45am.        Wake up. Cortisol. Moderate anxiety.  

7.00am.        1mg Lorazepam taken 

7.30am.        Breakfast (mild anxiety, feeling ill)

8.00am.        Daughter to school

9.00am.        1mg Diazepam taken.  Dog walk

9.30am.        Friend visited. Fixed lawnmower. 

10.30am.      Out with mother (mild anxiety, feeling ill, coped)

12.00pm.      7.5mg Escitalopram taken. 

12.30pm.      Lunch 

2.00pm.        Back home. (Tired, anxiety spike, mood drop. Out in garden)

3.00pm.        Collected daughter from school. Chatted with friends. 

4.00pm.        Played with daughter.  Rested on bed. (Tired. Anxiety spike, coped)

5.00pm.        Prepared dinner. 

5.30pm.        Dinner (calm, but tired) 

6.30pm         Dog walk with daughter. Played games outside. Nice evening. Helped lift mood. 

7.30pm.        Daughter bedtime. Reading and singing (calm)

8.30pm.        Reading (calm)

9.00pm.        Bed.  1mg Diazepam taken

 

Comment:  No crying today, although felt awful, tired, crampy.  Worked hard to keep mood up. 

 

 

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Sorry you've been ill.

 

On 6/24/2019 at 12:00 PM, BreathofAir said:

Daily diary of symptoms and doses

 

9pm bed night before 1 mg Diazepam taken. Off to sleep ok. 

Daughter ill in the night, multiple wake ups, but back to sleep ok. 

 

6.45am      Wake up (no cortisol).  1mg Lorazepam taken. Back to sleep. 

8.45am      Wake up (no cortisol) (Mood good)

9.00am      Breakfast   1mg Diazepam taken 

Household jobs. Caring for daughter (hardly noticeable anxiety, mood good)

10.00am   Dog walk (with daughter) 

11.00am   Escitalopram 7.5mg taken

11.30am   Shopping (with daughter) 

12.30pm   Lunch (calm, appetite ok)

2.00pm     Home. With daughter 

3.00pm     Doctor appointment (calm)

4.00pm     Home. Played with daughter. Laughing, having fun. Felt good. 

5.30pm     Dinner (enjoyed food)

6.30pm     Dog walk (enjoyed)

7.00pm     Daughter bedtime 

8.00pm     Reading. Calm. 

 

Comment - First full day of hardly any anxiety and feeling as close to normal since crash 8 weeks ago. 

Doctor recommended to hold Escitalopram at 7.5mg.  3 week follow up arranged. 

Possible plan to cross over to Diazepam depending on progress. 

 

 

 

Good job on the daily notes. What does "cross over to Diazepam" mean?

 

On 6/26/2019 at 12:40 PM, BreathofAir said:

Daily diary of symptoms and doses

 

1mg Diazepam taken night before 9pm. Off to sleep ok. 

 

5.00am.     Wake up. No anxiety/cortisol. Back to sleep

7.00am.     Wake up. No anxiety/cortisol.  1mg  Lorazepam taken.  Mood ok. 

8.00am.     Got daughter ready for school. Breakfast. 

9.00am.     1 Diazepam taken. 

9.30am.     Household chores.  Anxiety spike.  (Mother ill and upset, very irritable)

10.00am.   Dog walk (mood dropped worrying about mother)

11.00am.   Shopping 

12.00pm.   7.5mg Lorazepam escilatopram taken

12.30pm.   Lunch (upset, mood low)

1.30pm.     Shopping (calmer)

3.00pm.     Collected daughter from school

4.00pm.     Playing and reading with daughter. 

5.00pm.     Prepare dinner (anxiety spike, mother irritable - mood very low, crying)

6.00pm.     Dinner (anxiety spike - mother upset again)

6.30pm.     Dog walk with daughter (calming exercises)

7.00pm.     Daughter bedtime (calm, but low mood)

8.00pm.     Reading.  (Mood better, but anxious over family and effect on anxiety)

9.00pm.     1mg Diazepam taken. Bed. 

 

 

It appears you've been taking 7.5mg escilatopram at noon since June 26. Please continue to keep notes.

 

I would not make any more drug changes for a while, let your system settle from the new schedule.

 

Do you generally have dinner with your mother?

 

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Thank you @Altostrata

 

I hope you are well. 

 

My doctor suggested I cross over from Lorazepam to Diazepam at a point when I’d felt stable for a while. 

Yes, I generally have dinner with my mother when she is staying here. 

 

Best wishes, 

Rachel x

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Have woken up very very scared and depressed today.  Just want this horrible low mood and the crying to go away. 

Guess I’d better get on with it then.  

Fortitude. Fortitude. Fortitude. 🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷

 

Bless everyone. Sending hugs. 

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Hi Rachel

 

Any sresses at home or is this just one of those mornings.

Your fortitude is good but remember you have been doing so well.

If you can take it easy today and let your system settle.

You do not have to push every day as long as you stay positive.

Should call you Mystic Rachel, I have intended to ask for pics of Snowie for the past three days and keep forgetting.:rolleyes:

Hope the day improves.

 

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Sas 

well done on becoming a mod Sas I’m very proud of you 

well deserved as you help us all so much x

did you get my message from yesterday ? 

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hi Rachel,

 

sometimes in wd you may find fortitude impossible to manage. You can’t always be strong. 

 

I hope you have a nice day today!

 

Warmest wishes,

 

Rich

 = medication taken now

2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg

2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg 

2007 citalopram to present 40mg 
2018 March Abilify 5mg  
2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off

2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out

2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day 

2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 

2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg

2022 October began taper of Abilify
 

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Rachel, I hope you are seeing some improvement today. If not, do not worry. You will. It is so upsetting to slowly crawl your way out of the muck and mire only to be hit by symptoms again, but that, unfortunately, is the nature of the beast - right now. Remind yourself it is not forever. Remind yourself to breathe and float.

 

Emotional stressors play a big role in bringing on waves. Fortunately, I've found that my baseline continues to improve, even in a wave. I'm confident yours will as well. The trick is not to panic and change up your dose. Unfortunately, during waves, that's when the temptation to "do something" is the greatest. But it's also the time when "slow and steady" is the most important. 

 

You have become so much stronger. You may not be able to see it - that's common - but certainly others can. You're going to be all right. Hugs!!

2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d

Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion

Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020,  accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave

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Hi Rachel

 

Thanks for your post to witsend.

How are you feeling now.🤗

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Saturday 29th June 

 

Daily diary symptoms and doses

 

Multiple wake ups in night due to cold and headache, but back to sleep. 

 

06.45am.               Cortisol wake up with high anxiety, low mood, crying, feeling of dread, exhaustion 

07.00am.               1mg Lorazepam taken 

08.00am.               Breakfast 

09.00am.               1mg Diazepam taken 

09.30am.                Household chores

10.30am.                Out for the day to the coast with family. (Felt ok driving).

12.00pm.                7.5mg Escitalopram taken.   Severe anxiety spike with uncontrollable crying.  Beach extremely busy.

                                 Remained in public bathrooms until under control and able to go back out. 

12.30pm.                Lunch (low appetite)

1.00pm.                  Walked and played with dog on beach (calmed down, enjoyed walk)

1.30 - 3.30pm.       Played with daughter and other children in the sea and on the beach (calmer, had fun)

4.30pm.                  Home. Prepared tea.  (Felt tired. Anxiety spikes over feeling ill)

5.30pm.                  Ate tea with family.  (Calm)

6.00pm.                  Dog walk. 

6.30pm.                  Played with daughter. 

7.00pm.                  Daughter bedtime. Stories and singing. (Calm)

8.00pm.                  Reading (Calm)

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Thank you Rich,  Sassenach and Dejavu, 

 

After an awful start I managed to calm and get through the day. I messaged my friend whilst stuck in the public toilet (there I go again) and it greatly helped me to make the most of the afternoon. I was very grateful to have a lovely time playing with my daughter.  I treasure these moments when I am struggling the most.  I got agoraphobic on the beach and it was just too busy to start with. I should have been more sensible, I know.  

 

Dejavu, I remember in one of your early posts you said you were rapidly cycling.  I am finding that my mood remains mostly low, sometimes very low, with very small blips of hope or a lift, but these are so brief.  My function and what I am willing to do has improved, but I am so frightened of this persistent low mood and the terrible crying that seems to erupt out of nowhere.  This is what makes me want to updose.   Did you find that the more you did the more your mood improved or did it just improve anyway?  

 

Crawling out of the muck and mire is very apt and made me smile.  Because I am still struggling to focus on many things (crafts, tv, reading) I clock watch every minute and feel like I am literally clawing my way to the end of the day trying to find things I can do without them ramping up the anxiety.  I dearly wish this would improve, but I am grateful for my function. 

 

I am so very pleased that you continue to improve. In no time you will be tapering 😊

 

Sassenach, I gave the afternoon another Yorkshire punch. Thank you for your continued care. I know you will be busy with your new responsibilities and I know your strong, kind and sensible advice will lift many up, as it did me in the beginning.  The bright, shining torch in the deep, dark forest. 

 

Bless you both so much. Sleep well and keep healing. Sending hugs and best wishes. 

Night, 

R xxxxxxxxxx

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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12 hours ago, BreathofAir said:

My doctor suggested I cross over from Lorazepam to Diazepam at a point when I’d felt stable for a while. 

 

Does this mean increase your diazepam dosage? From our reading of your symptom pattern, you are taking TOO MUCH benzo already. @Shep

 

12 hours ago, BreathofAir said:

Yes, I generally have dinner with my mother when she is staying here. 

 

Do you think this could explain an increase in your symptoms on those evenings?

 

58 minutes ago, BreathofAir said:

12.00pm.                7.5mg Escitalopram taken.   Severe anxiety spike with uncontrollable crying.  Beach extremely busy.

                                 Remained in public bathrooms until under control and able to go back out. 

 

When did this anxiety spike occur? Was it before or after you took escilatopram? If after, how long after?

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Hi @Altostrata

 

I hope you are well.  Thank you for your time. 

 

No my doctor said to gradually substitute the Lorazepam with equivalent Diazepam. Ideally he wants me to start cutting as soon as I can, but I don’t feel stable at all with my anxiety.  

 

My mother will be leaving shortly so the tension will hopefully settle. 

 

I was already spiking with anxiety before the Escitalopram dose today. 

 

Should I remain as I am on the same benzo dose for now?  I am very concerned it is contributing to my low mood.  Other than the activities I am currently doing, I don’t know how else I can try increase my mood.  I don’t want to stay trapped in this scenario (of being afraid to lower the benzos) too long.  

 

Thank you for your continued support. 

 

R xx

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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On 6/23/2019 at 1:08 PM, Altostrata said:

....

I see that you've settled on a schedule of

 

7-8 a.m. 1mg lorazepam

9:00 a.m. 1mg diazepam

10:30 7.5mg escilatopram

9:00 p.m. 1mg diazepam

 

 

If you get a symptom regularly at 2 p.m. every day, it's because of something you're doing regularly earlier in the day, i.e. one of the drugs you're taking.

 

This could be 1) paradoxical reactions  in the p.m. from the lorazepam-diazepam combo in the morning; 2) activation from Lexapro in the p.m.; 3) breakthrough withdrawal from lorazepam in early morning (blood level of benzo combo is in a trough); 4) any combination of the above; 5) all the above.

 

My guess is you're taking TOO MUCH benzo (lorazepam-diazepam combo) in the morning, the lorazepam dose on top of diazepam is unnecessary. The afternoon activation could be a paradoxical reaction from your morning benzos. My guess is your morning nausea is breakthrough from lorazepam as well.

 

To isolate whether the escilatopram is the problem, you could try moving the 7.5mg escilatopram dose a half-hour each day until you're taking it at noon. You will need to keep notes every day for a week so we can see if your symptom pattern moves around. If it does, you're taking too much escilatopram.

 

If your symptom pattern does not move around, a paradoxical reaction from your morning benzos is the culprit. A gradual reduction of lorazepam to zero may be called for (attention @Shep)

 

11 minutes ago, BreathofAir said:

I was already spiking with anxiety before the Escitalopram dose today. 

 

This is an indication that escilatopram is not the culprit. Please post your symptom notes for the next few days to verify.

 

It's likely the anxiety spike is either a paradoxical reaction from the lorazepam-diazepam combination @Shep or something to do with your mother. Was she around at the time?

 

If it's your mother, if I were you I'd deal with the relationship problems rather than escalating your use of drugs.

 

FYI, depression is a side effect of TOO MUCH benzo.

 

I am feeling torn about continuing to counsel against your doctor's advice. You seemed very inclined to increase your benzo dosage. Please consider whether you might be truly addicted to it, psychologically, instead of dealing with your relationship with your mother.

 

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Good morning Rachel.

 

I have skimmed back through your thread and found no mention of an increase, you have always been afraid of them.

You still feel your mood is low but you eventually enjoyed the pm yesterday.

It is only a few weeks ago you said you would like to go there but it would be a long time because you did not have the courage.

Well you did yesterday.

When does your mum leave?

Keep your diary so they can figure the best way forward.

You may actually be close to the final adjustments needed for stability.

But even then time is the final healer.

You have been walking Snowie (photos please), putting your daughter to bed and doing house and garden chores.

You could not have done any of that two months ago.

For the record I am still here for you, cos us yarkshire folk look after our own😄

Have a good day but  you are still travelling not at your destination yet.

 

Big hugs to you, daughter and snowie ( should the dog come first?)

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

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Thank you @Altostrata

 

Just to clarify, it is not the benzos I was inclined to increase, it was the Escitalopram. Even though the Escitalopram activated me on start up, I found it effective for my anxiety. I was able to taper the benzos right down whilst on it. Obviously I should not have done a dual taper, which was too fast at the end and I see that now.  

 

My mother is undoubtedly a huge trigger and always has been. She will not change and it is me who needs to minimise contact. Unfortunately in this instance I had little choice, but I see very well she is not helping my recovery at all, other than propelling me to stand on my own two feet as quickly as possible. 

 

I am seeing a counsellor and using other measures and will do my best to stabilise at 7.5mg of Escitalopram.  Ideally I would like to be free of all the drugs.  I am just mindful that I need to be functional and safe for my daughter.  I understand the depressive qualities of benzos and would like to be off them as soon as possible.  

 

You are not at all in disagreement with my doctor.  He wishes me to be successful with non-drug coping techniques, but is also very mindful of not setting off the previous severe agitation that caused SI. 

 

I will continue to post daily schedules. 

 

Thank you for your continued support. 

Rachel xxx

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Good morning Sassenach, 

 

I hope you are well and slept well.  

 

Yes, you are correct, I want off the benzos and only took the Lorazepam in the first place to control the SI and agitation.  I know my mother is a huge issue. She has been all my life and probably the biggest contributor to my anxiety over the years.  I am hoping to come to terms with how I feel through the counselling.  She is leaving in the next few days.  It hasn’t helped that she’s been ill and just wants to be in her own home. I am sorry for this, but she refused to leave before saying she would  just worry.

 

I do feel that tension in the home and fear of not being able to get through the day are what’s feeding my anxiety the most. I think the benzos are not helping my low mood.  I don’t know how much of it is still acute withdrawal and how much of it is psychological.  Hopefully the psychotherapist can work on this with me. 

 

I am truly grateful to have the support I do and just want to level out, however I achieve this.  If I can’t get the meds sorted it will just add to my anxiety. 

 

Hope you have a good day too my friend. Please look after yourself. Bless you very much. Sending sunny hugs. 

R xxxxxxxxxxx

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Hi Rachel.

 

I am well today thanks.

Your disclosure of your mum's influence is interesting but not unexpected.

I am sure you have known this for a long time.

You are getting stronger and will deal with this in due course.

In the meantime your diary and symptoms are essential so those in the know can analyse your anxiety.

Where are my pics of Snowie?

 

 

🤗🤗🤗🤗

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

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Sunday 30th June

 

Daily diary symptoms and doses

 

9pm bed night before. 1mg Diazepam taken. Off to sleep ok. 

Up in the night. Daughter ill. Mother ill. Still feeling off myself with cold and period)

 

6.45am.   Wake up. No cortisol.  

7.00am.   1mg Lorazepam taken.  Back to sleep

8.30am.    Wake up. Slight cortisol.  Breakfast 

9.00am.   1mg Diazepam taken 

9.30am.   Household chores. Played with daughter. (Low anxiety rumbling)

11.30am. Severe anxiety spike. Racing thoughts. 

12.00pm. 7.5mg Escitalopram taken.  Out for walk with husband and dog. 

1.00pm.   Lunch. (Ate well, but uncomfortable with anxiety)

2.30pm.   Home. Looked after daughter. (Anxiety spiking all afternoon, racing thoughts, irritable)

5.00pm.   Prepared dinner.

6.00pm.   Ate dinner with daughter. (Calmer)

6.30pm.   Walk with daughter. 

                  Mother had accident and cracked head (anxiety spike, very upset)

7.00pm.   Bedtime with daughter 

8.00pm.   Looking after mother. 

 

 

 

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Hi Sassenach, 

 

Glad you’ve been well. That’s good to hear.  😊😊. Can see you’ve been busy...

Have been fighting the awful anxiety most of the day with everyone being ill (apart from my husband). Managed to get out for a bit. Daughter spiking high temperatures all day.  Then my mother cracked her head this evening, so it’s been a bit fraught.  Had enough of the day, so going to bed shortly.  Snowey pics to follow very soon. Onwards and upwards....

 

Look after yourself. Sleep well and heal well. Bless you. Night night. 

R xxxxxxxccc

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Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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What does "slight cortisol" mean?

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Good morning Rachel

 

Hope you slept well.

Stick at it you are coping so well although as usual you do not give yourself credit.

Really bad timing getting ill just as the chance to assess your meds in a benign environment was coming up ( how could you 🤣? )

When does your mum leave?

Raining here hope it is better with you.

Fortitude, fortitude, fortitude, your words not mine ( too big for me ).

 

🤗 Sassenach

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Hi @Altostrata

 

Slight cortisol means not anywhere near as severe as some mornings when it seems to burn all over internally and makes me nauseous and shaky.  Also, it dissipates more quickly and does not bother me so much. 

 

Best wishes, 

Rachel xx

 

 

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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LRH won't talk to me, you won't talk to me.

Maybe this mod thing makes you an alien:rolleyes:

I am pleased you want to cope on your own.

You know where I am.

 

Hugsssssssssssss

 

Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Daily diary symptoms and doses

 

Monday 1st July 

 

5.30am.     Awake. Bathroom. Back to sleep. 

7.00am.     Awake. Cortisol and anxiety.  1mg Lorazepam taken. 

7.30am.     Breakfast. 

8.00am.     Daughter to school. 

9.00am.     1mg Diazepam taken

9.30am.     Friend visited. Repaired lawnmower. 

10.30am.   Shopping (anxiety, tearful)

12.00pm.   7.5mg Escitalopram taken. 

1.00pm.     Lunch (anxiety, but managed to eat)

2.00pm.     Severe anxiety spike. Crying. Tried calming. 

3.00pm.     Collected daughter from school. (Calmer)

4.00pm.     Played with daughter 

5.00pm.     Prepared dinner

6.00pm.     Dinner. 

6.30pm.     Severe anxiety spike. Crying. Irritable and frightened. Trying to calm in bedroom

7.00pm.     Daughter bedtime. 

 

 

 

 

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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Sorry

Just read above.

You are doing it right by getting alone.

Calmmmmmm down and I will do penance for my insensitivity.🙇‍♂️

Lots of hugssssssssss

Sassenach.

 

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Hi Sassenach, 

 

Of course I will talk to you. Just thought you needed space with Witsend.   How are you doing? 

I haven’t had a brilliant day today.  Too much crying again. Really feel that the benzos are no longer effective and are just causing depression and crying.  Don’t know what to do.  The anxiety is just getting worse again, despite calming and distraction.  Just have to keep plodding on and trying not to be too scared. 

 

How are are you finding being a moderator?  Hope you’re looking after yourself....🙂

R xxxxx

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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I will always have space for you.

Hopefully there should soon be enough diary entries for Alto and Shep.

It was a shame that you got ill and had external stressors for part of the time which affected your condition.

Speaking of which, how is your mum and is she still living with you😈

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Sassenach

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Had awful day. So much crying and battling severe anxiety and agitation all day coming out of nowhere with no apparent triggers. 

Hateful hateful hateful anxiety.  So tired and scared.  

 

Really need more strength and to work out what the medication is doing. 

 

Sending hugs and blessings to everyone. 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁

 

Xxxxcc🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷

Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia)

Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately 

Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18

Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 

Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18

Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present

April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. 

CRASH 24 April 2019  Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly.

Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th

Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July 

 

 

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