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Hello,

 

I need some help. I was on mirtazapine for 6 months until october 2017. Did a fast taper from 12mg to 7.5mg, 7.5mg to 3.75 and quit, all in one month taper. After that i started having foot pain and tingling in my feet, worst in my right feet. Also sensation of bugs crawling in my head and severe insomnia. Almost two years and i still have horrible pain in my feet and sensation of bugs crawling in my head with same strenght and frequency. I waited until i posted here because this is not getting better. I dont understand how this is still so strong after almost two years, cant fuction cant work cant nothing, please help.

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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Hello Mirthazard, welcome to SA.  I'm sorry to hear you are still having such a hard time after two years off mirtazapine.  Is mirtazapine the only drug you've taken?

 

Please create a signature containing a summary of your med history, including all drugs, doses and dates (starting and stopping).  Your signature appears below every post you make, and helps us see your situation easily without having to read from the top every time.   You could look at my signature for an example.  Instructions for creating your signature are here: Please put your withdrawal history in your signature.  You can edit your signature here: edit your signature in Account Settings.

 

Insomnia is a very common withdrawal symptom, something many of us have struggled with.  The crawling bugs sensation sounds like a kind of paresthesia.

You might find these topics relevant:

Tips to help sleep - so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

Non-drug techniques for dealing with body pain

Paresthesia: pins & needles, numbness, burning sensations aka neuropathy

Burning skin, burning feet

 

I'm sorry that you are still experiencing strong symptoms after two years.  I'm afraid I don't know of any way to speed up recovery, but I am glad to have you here at SA, a place where we can all support each other wherever we are on our journey.

 

 

 

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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Thank you Songbird for the tips. I created the signature but i cant see them.

 

I wonder if there are anyone with these crawling bugs sensation on the hair? This symptom appeared soon after CT from 2.5 MG mirt wish i was for a week along with painfull feet. Another thing wish is a mystery for me is that the burning hand appeared 4 months later. I am also having tremors in only 3 of my fingers, what a strange thing. Wish appeared same time had burning hand. Is that even possible to get more different symptoms after months?

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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52 minutes ago, Mirthazard said:

Thank you Songbird for the tips. I created the signature but i cant see them.

 

I wonder if there are anyone with these crawling bugs sensation on the hair? This symptom appeared soon after CT from 2.5 MG mirt wish i was for a week along with painfull feet. Another thing wish is a mystery for me is that the burning hand appeared 4 months later. I am also having tremors in only 3 of my fingers, what a strange thing. Wish appeared same time had burning hand. Is that even possible to get more different symptoms after months?

 

Yes, it is definitely possible to get new symptoms many months after a dose change. I have experienced that myself.

 

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2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg

2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅

2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅
2018 March Abilify 5mg  
2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off

2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out

2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅

2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 

2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg

2022 October began taper of Abilify
 

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RichT but for how long did the new symptoms persisted?

I had this new symptoms on november 2017. We are now on may 2019 and i still have them!! I cant be normal

 

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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16 minutes ago, Mirthazard said:

RichT but for how long did the new symptoms persisted?

I had this new symptoms on november 2017. We are now on may 2019 and i still have them!! I cant be normal

 

 

I don’t see anything that suggests you’re not normal! 

 

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✅ = medication taken now

2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg

2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅

2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅
2018 March Abilify 5mg  
2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off

2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out

2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅

2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 

2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg

2022 October began taper of Abilify
 

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I meant it cant be normal, sorry

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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15 hours ago, Mirthazard said:

Thank you Songbird for the tips. I created the signature but i cant see them.

 

Your signature is showing okay. 

 

15 hours ago, Mirthazard said:

I wonder if there are anyone with these crawling bugs sensation on the hair? This symptom appeared soon after CT from 2.5 MG mirt wish i was for a week along with painfull feet. Another thing wish is a mystery for me is that the burning hand appeared 4 months later. I am also having tremors in only 3 of my fingers, what a strange thing. Wish appeared same time had burning hand. Is that even possible to get more different symptoms after months?

 

It is very common for symptoms to come and go over time.

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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I was put today by my doctor on gabapentin 4 times a day to counteract all this symptoms including insomnia. I does indeed help, specially the insomnia. I am drowsed all day and it helps me sleep at night. But i am so scared of the drowsiness side effect. When my CNS adapts and not drowsy anymore, i cant imagine i would be the withdrawal. Anyone has experience on withdrawal on this med? Thank you

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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Has the gabapentin reduced the bugs in your head feeling?

Paroxatine - 2004-2006

Effexor XR 75mg 2006 - 2016 (Discontinued Feb 2016) - Withdrawal for 6 months.

Effexor XR 75mg Re-instated June 2017 (Discontinued Dec 2017)

Effexor XR 2-3 mg Re-instated March 10 2018 - 1 day (Didn't work)

Effexor XR 2mg Reinstated (Again) May 11 2018. 6 Beads

July 2018 - 0.0mg of Effexor. Zilch

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1 hour ago, Mirthazard said:

I was put today by my doctor on gabapentin 4 times a day to counteract all this symptoms including insomnia. I does indeed help, specially the insomnia. I am drowsed all day and it helps me sleep at night. But i am so scared of the drowsiness side effect. When my CNS adapts and not drowsy anymore, i cant imagine i would be the withdrawal. Anyone has experience on withdrawal on this med? Thank you

 

Yes, gabapentin may need to be tapered as it can have withdrawal.  See:  Tips for tapering off Neurontin (gabapentin)

 

Is it in capsule or tablet form?  Has it helped with other symptoms such as the burning pains? 

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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Loyd the bugs a little bit i thing. 

 

Songbird yes it helps the burning pain, the problem is it wears off after 4 or 5 hours, until the next tablet. It is in capsule form.

 

But i am afraid i am swapping problems, but at least it helps.

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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Theres a prescription melatonin i have with me wish is called circadin, i think it is prolonged release melatonin. Its 2mg. I took one and i slept much better. Gabapentin helps a little but not everyday, not sure why. But with circadin seems to be lots better. Does this special release cause dependence or withdrawal insomnia if i quit it? Anyone has any experience with circadin? Songbird?

May - october 2017 - Mirtazapine from 7.5 - 12mg mg for insomnia

May - october 2017 Lyrica 100mg a day.

October-november 2017 - both mirt and Lyrica, or one of them went paradoxical, exteme vertigo after Lyrica. Cut down Lyrica to 3x25mg a day, same vertigo, CT Lyrica. Insomnia developed severe on 12 MG mirtazapine, reduced to 7.5, still insomnia, reduced to 3.75 still.insomnia. CT mirt. 

November 2017 - present burning feet, pins and needles, muscle spasms, myoclonus limbs, head, bugs crawling my head burning hands, left side worst. Ears cracking sensation.

May 2019 - put on gabapentin 100mg 4xday to counteract insomnia

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I've heard of Circadin but haven't tried it myself.  Melatonin is considered to be fairly safe.  See: Melatonin for sleep

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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