Lynnardgirl Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) MOD NOTE: This is member's first post which was in a different topic. Member was advised to start an Introduction topic. Can’t stabilize it’s been 3months getting worse Edited September 6, 2019 by ChessieCat added mod note 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Topic title: Need help if I’m in tolerance! Can’t stabilize been 7 months Please help! I was on regular Effexor for over 20 years, two years ago I went up on my dose from 150 to 225! Big mistake Then I tapered within a month ! I was doing ok until woke up with panic attack scared me so went back on the 225 immediately! took a couple of weeks to stabilize then after year or less I started having insomnia, my doctor gave me trazodone Found out the two don’t go together, because I started having panic attack and bad bad anxiety! My natural path change my reg Effexor to XR and dropped my dose down to 150! Then two months later I tapered twice! Went back on the reg effexor trying to cut! Was having some really good windows but then my doctor gave me some supplements and I can’t get out of this awful wave! Didn’t think if I was having good windows I could be in tolerance from the drug! I’m not well and need some advice , I don’t want to live like this help please Edited September 6, 2019 by ChessieCat 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 6, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 6, 2019 Hi Lynnardgirl and welcome to SA, We need some more specific information about the dates you made the dose changes, and we also need to know if you are taking any other drugs and/or supplements. The easiest way for you to provide this information is to create your drug signature using the following format. Keep it simple. NO diagnoses or symptoms please - thank you. details for last 2 years - dates, ALL drugs, doses summary for older than 2 years - just years and drug/s Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature Once we have these details we will be better able to offer suggestions and information relevant to your situation. This is your own introductions topic where your can ask questions about your own situation and journal your progress. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 I hope I did the signature right! Please keep me posted! Thank you for all your hard work helping others 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 8, 2019 Administrator Share Posted September 8, 2019 Welcome, Lynn. I see your drug signature. Quote on 112 mg split in half twice a day 2019 This refers to Effexor XR, correct? When did you start taking 112mg again? Why are you taking it twice a day? What times of day do you take your drugs, and their dosages? Do you feel better before or after you take them? How's your sleep? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 My natural path put me on xr Effexor and cut my dosage from 225 down to 150! Didnt have to bad withdrawals but wanted to start tapering agian. I had my psychiatrist put me back on regular Effexor thinking it would be easier to taper than taking beads out! I cut twice probably to much more like 25 % Inwas having bad anxiety before during and after all this dosage change ! With regular Effexor I have always taken one in morning and one in afternoon So I take half of 112 in morning than the other half in afternoon! My last taper was in January and I cant stabilize and getting worse 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 During a wave my sleep is not good wake up every hour! Total wake at 3:30 4:00 every morning. losing weight sweat so bad at night! Anxiety and heart pounding most days! Ugh will it ever stop 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Sorry yes Effexor XR 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 What do I do? Start to taper again it’s been 7 months and I’m getting worse Help please 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted September 9, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, Lynnardgirl said: Start to taper again it’s been 7 months and I’m getting worse Help please I would continue to hold. Your system is working to stabilize and doesn't need changes. Unfortunately, it can take a long time to stabilize. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Gridley Do you think I could be in tolerance to the drug sense I tapered to fast then a month later reinstated 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted September 9, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Lynnardgirl said: Do you think I could be in tolerance to the drug sense It's possible since you've been on the Effexor for so long. I'm going to ask the other mods what thy suggest. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2019 Hi Lynnardgirl-- tolerance is a tricky subject. It is quite possible to go into tolerance after a long hold. Let's start out with some general information from this thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17909-are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take/?tab=comments#comment-354114 Give this a read and then we can talk some more. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Brassmonkey I don’t know what to do ! Today Im in window didn’t think if I was in a window or having windows could I still be in tolerance! Good information thank you! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2019 I've been reading through your thread and have to agree with Gridley. This is looking more like normal WD from a bunch of big changes. I think holding at this level for a good long time is going to be the best bet. When a person makes a number of large changes in a fairly short time it really sensitized the body. This takes a very long time to stabilize and will cause some very large, long lasting waves while it is happening. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Thank you so much for the reply! I will Keep holding! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
street129 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Lynnardgirl said: Brassmonkey I don’t know what to do ! Today Im in window didn’t think if I was in a window or having windows could I still be in tolerance! Good information thank you! I really feel bad for you. I know the feeling. I'm hoping to hear you'll be stabilized real soon. JOINED THIS BOARD AUGUST 27, 2017 250mg trazodone 250mg Aug 21, 2017 tapering before I found SA 200mg - Aug 21, 2017 to Aug 25, 2017 tapering before found SA 225mg - Aug 26, 2017 updose holding November 26, 2017. I reinstated my original dose of 250mg trazodone..planning on holding for a very long time. No more withdrawal June 14, 2020 at 10% 507 My first start of my trazodone 250mg taper 6/16/20 90 mgai 7/26/20 81 mgai 9/6/20 72 mg ai 10/17/20- updose to 77 mgai 11/11/20- updose to 81 mgai Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Street129 thank you so much for the kind words! This is total awful what we go through 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Giulietta Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hi there. I'm really sorry about your prolonged discomfort/misery. I am at the same place and know how you must be feeling. I have a number of consecutive bad days (1/2 the day I am nearly totally incapacitated) and other days I am mostly fine. I have been holding at the same place for the past 2 months and I not planning to make any changes quite yet. I never know when I'm going to be dizzy in the morning.... 🧐 and want to stabilize like you. I know I have a sensitive nervous system and maybe you do as well. We were wronged by the prescribers, the drug companies and the FDA who doesn't do a proper job vetting drugs or correcting labels. Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Guilietta, so sorry you are going through this nightmare to! I know I will be healed but just afraid of what is next with my withdrawals! Will I be getting worse and maybe to a point can’t function? This is what really scares me! So I will not taper for a long time until I feel well and hopefully sooner than later thanks for the reply it’s nice knowing I have so amazing support 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
thelegend Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I know how you feel. I reinstated too high of a dose after a CT and I am still waiting to stabilize, going on 4 months now. It is the worst. Hang in there, hopefully we will both start making some progress! April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs). April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to... June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly. New Doctor reinstated: May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa Link to comment
Giulietta Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 How are you doing today? I hope much better. We go from days that are better than others and those that aren't so hot (I tell myself on those days that things that this is just for today - and this moment - and not to anticipate what I cannot control). Does that help? This has been an unpleasant few days so I've missed some messages. Apologies. I'm also not very good with computers. This is a nicely done site -but still a challenge for me especially now. Yesterday I got unpleasant confirmation that I tried hard to avoid - I had gone off CT in December of 2018. I thought I had planned and executed a taper. This explains why I have had misery since 'reducing' my dosage from what I thought was 20 mg to 18 mg. I had quit CT last year (around April/May I think) - under MD's advice. So - with all the symptoms now - I'm not sure what to do. I explained to my neurologist's nurse to day and got an appointment next week (they kindly moved people around for me). Neurologist is not the prescriber of this med but manages my seizure disorder (yes, more meds for that). Trying to keep as positive as I can and keep busy - as much as I can. Things need a bit of dusting and vacuuming so may give that a try this afternoon. I am reminding myself that I have had to deal with ADs tapers (a few weeks - per MD) and anti-seizure meds for years and made it through OK. That said, it can be a bumpy ride. But I know we'll both make it. Speak soon, Guilietta Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 Guilietta, Hi thanks for your reply! I’m in a wave but starting to accept that I might be in and out of windows and waves for a long time! I just want to stabilize been going on way to long! Yes keeping busy is what helps! I try to always think good thoughts, pray and thank God for each and every day! Good or bad! Keep in touch sorry but I haven’t got back on this site for over a week sometimes it makes me stress more during a wave! Take care, God bless you 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 thelegend sorry to hear you haven’t stabilized yet but promise coming soon ! take care thanks for your reply 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 26, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 26, 2019 Lynnardgirl, what is your current daily symptom pattern? How's your sleep? What times of day do you take your drugs, and their dosages? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 6:09 PM, Altostrata said: Lynnardgirl, what is your current daily symptom pattern? How's your sleep? What times of day do you take your drugs, and their dosages? I have been cutting the tablets and I’m on 112.5 split twice a day! I wake up around 3-4 every morning with heart palpitations! Throughout the day I have horrible anxiety! Then maybe a window for a couple of days then back to anxiety I think I do see improvements but very little! Ugh want this to stop 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Altostrata my doctor gave me estrogen cream because he says Im very very low! I have been slowly taking it, but my anxiety is through the roof? Waking up at 3 and heart racing ? Should Instop the estrogen?.. 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
thelegend Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lynnardgirl said: I have been cutting the tablets and I’m on 112.5 split twice a day! I wake up around 3-4 every morning with heart palpitations! Throughout the day I have horrible anxiety! Then maybe a window for a couple of days then back to anxiety I think I do see improvements but very little! Ugh want this to stop sounds like we are in the same boat. This is exactly what is going on with me and I agree I just want it to stop. So sick of it, we are really in the same place it seems at this point, we need to help each other! April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs). April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to... June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly. New Doctor reinstated: May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, thelegend said: sounds like we are in the same boat. This is exactly what is going on with me and I agree I just want it to stop. So sick of it, we are really in the same place it seems at this point, we need to help each other! Absolutely we need to support each other! This is just awful. Trying so hard to keep positive but this anxiety is horrible! so sorry you are suffering but we will heal 2 minutes ago, thelegend said: sounds like we are in the same boat. This is exactly what is going on with me and I agree I just want it to stop. So sick of it, we are really in the same place it seems at this point, we need to help each other! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Kernol Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Lynnardgirl said: Absolutely we need to support each other! This is just awful. Trying so hard to keep positive but this anxiety is horrible! so sorry you are suffering but we will heal I am in the same boat as you @Lynnardgirl and @thelegend as well. Hoping and praying to stabilise from this extreme chemical anxiety. It’s awful 10 years on Sertraline 100mg. 75mg Dec 2016 - Apr 2017, 50mg May 2017 - Oct 2017, 37.5mg 2018 - Sertraline 25mg Mar - July 2018, 13.75mg Aug- Sept 1.5 month (‘not accurately measured), came off completely 10 October, reinstated by doctor on 10 November 25 mg. 25 November raised to 50mg 2 December 100mg 11 December 150mg 30 November. Lorazepam started 2mg x daily 1 November 2019 - Sertraline reduced to 100mg 5 Feb, 23 Feb 75mg, 18 Mar 50mg, 23 Apr 37.5mg, 1 Jun 25mg, 3 Jul 16mg, 3 Aug 8mg, updosed on 1 Sept to 16.67mg 20 Feb lorazepam 2mg x day crossed over to diazepam 20mg x day over 2 week period to taper. diazepam reduced by 1mg every 2/3 weeks got down to 3.5mg in August. 22 Sept resorted to taking 1mg lorazepam after sertraline destabilisation instead of diazepam. took lorazepam 1mg x day 22 Sept - 28 Sept then returned to diazepam on 29 Sept 4mg,, 30 Sept 4.5mg 1 Oct 5mg 2 Oct 5mg 16 Nov 4.75mg. 15 Dec 5mg 29 Dec 4.75mg Vortioxetine 5mg started 1 July. 14 July 10mg -Reduced on 20 July to 5mg. 12 Sept reduced to 3.75mg, 19 Sept reduced to 2.5mg, 15 Oct reduced to 2mg, 22 Oct 1.9mg, 29 Oct 1.8mg reduced down every 3 days and then daily stopped on 2 Dec 2020 - sertraline 8 Apr - 16mg 29 Apr - 15.5mg 13 may - 15.25mg may 19 - 15mg may 22- 14.75mg 22 Jun 14mg 6 July 13.3 - 20 July 12.6 - 3 August - 11.97 - 17 August 11.37. Held. Then started 2.5% fortnightly drops. 9.5mg 4 Dec diazepam 19 Apr - 4.25mg 20 May - 4mg 20 Jun 3.75mg 4.25mg 22 Sept 4.5mg 29 Sept. 4.75ng Oct 5 Nov 10 4.5mg Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Kernol said: I am in the same boat as you @Lynnardgirl and @thelegend as well. Hoping and praying to stabilise from this extreme chemical anxiety. It’s awful Kernol It feels to me it’s getting worse! Pray and pray we all heal soon from this nightmare ! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Found out I’m very low on estrogen and was put on estrogen cream ! Been using it for a month and feel like my anxiety has gotten so much worse ! I don’t know what to do ! Any feed back would be greatly appreciated thanks 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 30, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 30, 2019 I would not add estrogen just yet. Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern? Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. You can post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, with a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Altostrata said: I would not add estrogen just yet. Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern? Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. You can post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, with a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. Thank you 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Altostrata said: Did the estrogen make it worse? Estrogen has a very long half-life, this will gradually go away. Altostrata yes my symptoms Are worse ! Stopped taking the estrogen about a week ago! Wow this is awful 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 5, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 5, 2019 How has your symptom pattern changed? Please note I asked for daily notes on October 25. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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