Lynnardgirl Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, RusTW said: Stop fighting welcome it get used to it looses power.nice trade off.its real. Understanding comes from acceptance Absolutely ! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, RusTW said: Hard to believe but your blessed right now to dig deep inside of yourself deeper than most. That brings acceptance and understanding no fighting for it it comes naturally. Learn to relax more meditate and don't try to solve this it solves itself. Acceptance is so hard, but once you accept what is happening, yes your free ! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
RusTW Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, Lynnardgirl said: Acceptance is so hard, but once you accept what is happening, yes your free ! Lol acceptance is with each experience. I dont think we get off that easy.acceptance is being ok with what is good and bad.ive even screwed up good by focusing on bad.living in the now not past depression not future anxiety. It's not easy.u have to condition like exercise 1 March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia. August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only. Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/ Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2 ativan 1mg a month as needed if that. Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin Link to comment
RusTW Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Dont fight the river go with it.🏞 1 March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia. August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only. Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/ Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2 ativan 1mg a month as needed if that. Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, RusTW said: Lol acceptance is with each experience. I dont think we get off that easy.acceptance is being ok with what is good and bad.ive even screwed up good by focusing on bad.living in the now not past depression not future anxiety. It's not easy.u have to condition like exercise Yes living in the now! Not many can do this, but when you do your world will change. You will see and feel your true self 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
RusTW Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Lynnardgirl said: Yes living in the now! Not many can do this, but when you do your world will change. You will see and feel your true self True self is in us now.it talks to us listen.not the wd >sh*tty voice the us voice listen it's there to guide u March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia. August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only. Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/ Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2 ativan 1mg a month as needed if that. Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin Link to comment
RusTW Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I vibrate with akithisia and sweating sometimes. When this happens to me no more fear my mind is calm and peaceful but my body feels the burning racing. It's taken some work to get here but I own it now as I've mentioned before. Nobody's done this for me but myself and the support of this site . March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia. August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only. Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/ Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2 ativan 1mg a month as needed if that. Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 12 hours ago, RusTW said: True self is in us now.it talks to us listen.not the wd >sh*tty voice the us voice listen it's there to guide u Amen 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 12 hours ago, RusTW said: I vibrate with akithisia and sweating sometimes. When this happens to me no more fear my mind is calm and peaceful but my body feels the burning racing. It's taken some work to get here but I own it now as I've mentioned before. Nobody's done this for me but myself and the support of this site . I have been trying to do this ! Especially when my heart is racing and in a fog! I remember your words and how you accept and no more fear! If you can manage to accept the akithisia then why can’t I do the same ! Thank you, you have helped me more than you will ever know 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
RusTW Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Lynnardgirl said: I have been trying to do this ! Especially when my heart is racing and in a fog! I remember your words and how you accept and no more fear! If you can manage to accept the akithisia then why can’t I do the same ! Thank you, you have helped me more than you will ever know Welcome >giving back is healing .I have racy now but at ease in the mind.its chemistry. You won't loose it by being calm.it will get easier. Bless you Russ March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia. August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only. Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/ Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2 ativan 1mg a month as needed if that. Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Has anybody had the nasty throwing up flu then went into a awful wave ! Wow this one takes the cake 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 11:48 AM, Anthony75 said: @Lynnardgirl Hi Lynnardgirl, Hope you are feeling well. I was reading through your thread and wanted to stop by and try to ease your mind. You mentioned in your thread that at 11 months you haven’t stabilized yet. You’re not alone and it can be withdrawals. I reinstated from a CT cut over two years ago and I’m still in the window and waves pattern. But at the same I have improved a lot but also feel like I’m going backwards sometimes. So you’re not alone in this either. We will heal but unfortunately we are on withdrawals time line not ours. I hope this gives you reinsurance as I’m only trying to help. If you ever need to talk I’m here. Take care, Anthony Anthony75 Just got over the nasty flu Throwing up all night ! Now in the worse wave ever ! Do you think it’s the stress from the flu ??? ugh horrible 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
thelegend Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I am sorry @Lynnardgirl, how were you doing before that? Still things more manageable? I had a stomach flu that threw me into a wave in December. Crazy thing is while I felt awful, the WD symptoms were not bad, then they hit hard once I got better. April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs). April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to... June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly. New Doctor reinstated: May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, thelegend said: I am sorry @Lynnardgirl, how were you doing before that? Still things more manageable? I had a stomach flu that threw me into a wave in December. Crazy thing is while I felt awful, the WD symptoms were not bad, then they hit hard once I got better. Yes I remember when mentioned the stomach bug and was wondering how it was with WD! Not fun my WD after the flu is the worse! I wanted to tell you I do see improvement in my symptoms but it has taken year ! So don’t get discourage your time is coming ! My anxiety seemed to get worse through out the months but finally seeing a decline . Slow but getting better until the flu hit home hard ! Prayers to You always 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Anthony75 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 @Lynnardgirl Hi Lynnardgirl, Sorry you’re not feeling well. I believe that the flu is a major trigger. The flu sucks enough not in withdrawals. I’m sure you will feel better once the flu goes away. Hope you feel better soon. I read that you were feeling better before the flu hit. I’m really happy for you. 1993 - 2003 (Prozac 40mg) 2003 – 2/1/17 (Paxil 40mg) 4/10/18 – Present (Paxil 50mg) 1993 - Present (Klonopin 2mg) 1996 - Present (Levothyroxine 100mcg) 2/1/17 - Quit (Paxil 40mg) Cold Turkey 2/1/17 – 10/1/17 (No Paxil) Acute withdrawal 10/1/17 – Reinstated (Paxil 40mg) 4/10/18 – Up dosed to (Paxil 50mg) 4/10/18 - To present. Still in protracted withdrawals Supplements - Multivitamin, fish oil, vitamin d3, Magnesium Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Anthony75 said: @Lynnardgirl Hi Lynnardgirl, Sorry you’re not feeling well. I believe that the flu is a major trigger. The flu sucks enough not in withdrawals. I’m sure you will feel better once the flu goes away. Hope you feel better soon. I read that you were feeling better before the flu hit. I’m really happy for you. Thank you, hope you have a great day! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 Can someone explain or help me understand why after 15 months my waves all of a sudden have got worse and are lasting longer ! I have been in this wave for two weeks and not letting up ! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 8, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 8, 2020 Could be from additional stress due to the covid-19 situation. 1 * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Could be from additional stress due to the covid-19 situation. My WD 'normal' has definitely taken a bit of a bashing due to this. It's a highly stressful situation out there and those of us sensitized are no doubt registering it. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 12 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Could be from additional stress due to the covid-19 situation. Do you think it can be poop out!? If so what would I have to do? Start tapering I’m a little scared 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted May 8, 2020 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2020 Poopout does not happen in waves, rather it creeps up on you over a period of time. Most people don't even know that it's happening, just that they are continuing to feel worse and worse without making changes to their dose level. The stress levels for everyone due to the COVID-19 lock down are through the roof. This stress is greatly amplified for people going through ADWD and most certainly can trigger waves of symptoms, even in people whose tapers are going very well. Stress reduction, AAF and other coping tools will help keep thing under control. If a person is having a stress reaction to the global situation it would be a good idea to start an extended hold period instead of continuing to taper. Once the stress reaction has passed and the person is stable, the taper can be resumed. 2 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, brassmonkey said: Poopout does not happen in waves, rather it creeps up on you over a period of time. Most people don't even know that it's happening, just that they are continuing to feel worse and worse without making changes to their dose level. The stress levels for everyone due to the COVID-19 lock down are through the roof. This stress is greatly amplified for people going through ADWD and most certainly can trigger waves of symptoms, even in people whose tapers are going very well. Stress reduction, AAF and other coping tools will help keep thing under control. If a person is having a stress reaction to the global situation it would be a good idea to start an extended hold period instead of continuing to taper. Once the stress reaction has passed and the person is stable, the taper can be resumed. Ok thank you, is poop out the same as in tolerance ?Just trying to figure this all out! Been healthy all m life and this is so devastating God bless you so much 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted May 8, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 8, 2020 SA's topic: tolerance-or-poop-out-or-tachyphylaxis * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
thelegend Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Hey @Lynnardgirl are you doing any better? I too just can’t get out of this wave! Came from nowhere as I was doing much better! April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs). April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to... June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly. New Doctor reinstated: May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, thelegend said: Hey @Lynnardgirl are you doing any better? I too just can’t get out of this wave! Came from nowhere as I was doing much better! Hi ! So sorry, no my wave is worse then ever! I finally bought a scale and started crushing my tablets and weighing them yesterday ! Maybe this will help but it also is making me more anxious! So so sorry this is pure hell! my prayers are with you my friend ! God bless you 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
thelegend Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lynnardgirl said: Hi ! So sorry, no my wave is worse then ever! I finally bought a scale and started crushing my tablets and weighing them yesterday ! Maybe this will help but it also is making me more anxious! So so sorry this is pure hell! my prayers are with you my friend ! God bless you so are you tapering? April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs). April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to... June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly. New Doctor reinstated: May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, thelegend said: so are you tapering? No not tapering ! I was cutting my tablets and I need to be more accurate! Hopefully this will help with the awful waves 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 12:26 PM, brassmonkey said: Poopout does not happen in waves, rather it creeps up on you over a period of time. Most people don't even know that it's happening, just that they are continuing to feel worse and worse without making changes to their dose level. The stress levels for everyone due to the COVID-19 lock down are through the roof. This stress is greatly amplified for people going through ADWD and most certainly can trigger waves of symptoms, even in people whose tapers are going very well. Stress reduction, AAF and other coping tools will help keep thing under control. If a person is having a stress reaction to the global situation it would be a good idea to start an extended hold period instead of continuing to taper. Once the stress reaction has passed and the person is stable, the taper can be resumed. I started to crush my tablet instead of cutting to be more accurate. I am taking Venlafaxine regular not extended! Is this ok to crush feeling really off this week? 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Lynnardgirl said: I started to crush my tablet instead of cutting to be more accurate. I am taking Venlafaxine regular not extended! Is this ok to crush feeling really off this week? I feel dizzy and heart racing ! Just feeling out of it! 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 @brassmonkey Hi hope all is well with you! I started to crush my tablet instead of cutting to be more accurate. I am taking Venlafaxine regular not extended! Is this ok to crush feeling really off this week 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted June 2, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2020 Crushing shouldn't be a problem. I just posted this on Timberline's thread it may help. Yea, I'd try the two spoon method. Work over a piece of paper to catch any that falls and put a small piece of paper with a fold in it on the pan of the scales. The spoon method can leave things a little course, I just would put it on the paper and crush it some more with one spoon against the table top. When you measure out the dose be sure to save the leftovers, you end up getting "a free dose" that way. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: Crushing shouldn't be a problem. I just posted this on Timberline's thread it may help. Yea, I'd try the two spoon method. Work over a piece of paper to catch any that falls and put a small piece of paper with a fold in it on the pan of the scales. The spoon method can leave things a little course, I just would put it on the paper and crush it some more with one spoon against the table top. When you measure out the dose be sure to save the leftovers, you end up getting "a free dose" that way. Ok I bought a pill crusher it does a great job! makes it into fine ParticlesParticles 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
thelegend Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Great to hear about your pill crusher. How are you doing? Feeling any better? April 2010 - January 2018: Zoloft 50-100 mgs (would go back and forth between these doses, mostly at 50mgs). April - May 2018: Attempted to restart Zoloft for 6 weeks, made things worse so switched to... June 2018 - Novemeber 2019: Lexapro 10mgs August 2018 - Current: Zyprexa added for early morning extreme anxiety November 2018 - February 2019: Lexapro 5mgs, then off since doctor said it “wasn’t working if still having anxiety.” Looking back I was probably stabilizing very slowly. New Doctor reinstated: May 1st, 2019 - Current - Zoloft 50mgs, 2.5mg Zyprexa Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 @thelegend Feeling really drained and just want some kind of normal free life again ! When will that be??? I have been praying through out the day and your in my prayers ! I know you are going through a tough time , but with my prayers and so many others you will heal sooner than you think! I know you will my friend. 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, brassmonkey said: Crushing shouldn't be a problem. I just posted this on Timberline's thread it may help. Yea, I'd try the two spoon method. Work over a piece of paper to catch any that falls and put a small piece of paper with a fold in it on the pan of the scales. The spoon method can leave things a little course, I just would put it on the paper and crush it some more with one spoon against the table top. When you measure out the dose be sure to save the leftovers, you end up getting "a free dose" that way. Sorry to bother you again ! Just a quick question I have so many half, quarter and tiny cut pills , I just put some in my pill crusher and get the weight for my dosage ! Is this wrong ??? 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
Lynnardgirl Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 @brassmonkey Sorry to bother you again ! Just a quick question I have so many half, quarter and tiny cut pills , I just put some in my pill crusher and get the weight for my dosage ! Is this wrong ??? 1997 regular Effexor 150 mg2016-2017 up dosage to 225 tried several times to taper no luck fast taper Back on panic attacks anxiety Insomnia 2017 doing ok after a year but then insomia doctor put me onTrazodone was on Trazodone for 6 months or longer did a fast taper getting panic attacks 2018 Doctor switched me to Effexor XR an reduced my dose to 225 - down to 150 felt worse went back on regular Effexor Venlafaxine 2018 taper again, To fast tapered down to 112.5 from 150 take half twice a day 56.25 Link to comment
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