☼ Cloudskishawna: 5 weeks on Remeron / mirtazapine

[Cloudskishawna]

I was doing good the past 3 weeks and then this jerk stuff started to happen last 2 days and I haven't been able to get any sleep really its depressing alto 

I did take a tramadol just a tiny bit it didn't do anything I'm so exhausted 

But the jerk thing happens everytime I'm about to fall asleep

[Sassenach]

Cloud

 

Have the earworms stopped?

[Cloudskishawna]

No not really I just notice them a whole lot more less because I got this new symptom now so exhausted 

[Cloudskishawna]

Can I take some hydroxzine to see if that helps with me tonight 

[Cloudskishawna]

I think my issues are from histamine I had took some hydroxzine and was able to get some type of sleep 

[Cloudskishawna]

Question guys do I have to taper off of hydroxyzine I've taken it off and on for 3 months now I'm just asking because I seen someone say that they were going through withdrawals from this Can I just stop taking it since it's just a antihistamine 

Now I'm worried 

[Cloudskishawna]

I thought I was supposed to be better by now maybe I don't know is this the acute withdrawal phase where everything starts to get worse because I'm really starting to feel it now 

I wish I could go back to week 2 where I felt amazing I really hope I get to feel that feeling again but I have caught a pattern usually around night time I sometimes don't feel some withdrawl symptoms that bad so I guess that's good I really hope I start seeing some light 2 months from now 

I've been having this flu like symptom and fatigue any advice on how to cope with that 

Please and thanks 

[Altostrata]

@Cloudskishawna, for maybe the 6th time, please post questions and updates in your Intro topic. Stop creating new Introductions topics.

 

I don't believe anyone here said you would feel better by now.

 

How have your symptoms changed? You'd need to keep notes about them over some days. A day or two is not a symptom pattern.

 

Maybe you have the flu or a cold?

 

Is the hydroxyzine helping?

[Cloudskishawna]

Yeah the hydroxzine is helping but god it makes me feel brain dead I can't even pronounce words right on that antihistamine 

And I'll stop creating new topics I've just been forgetting stuff I feels as though I'm in a fog and thanks alto

I am sleeping better now I know the cause of my insomnia it's the cellphone anytime I try to sleep with I have a rough night all the time

[Cloudskishawna]

Is there any sucess stories of withdrawling from mirtazapine and recovery 

[Sassenach]

Hi cloud

I thought we agreed no phone at night.

You really are making this difficult for yourself.

Have you looked through the success stories for mirtazapine?

You are as capable of getting well as anyone on here if you set your mind to it.

So early night no phone no TV darkened room sensible time of going to bed.

SAS.

[Cloudskishawna]

Yes sir I'm still looking for success stories on mirtazapine I've only found 1 on here still looking I've been going on walks everyday now it seems to be helping I truly want to recover 

But how do you know if it's withdrawals or you and that question always scares me for some reason I don't want to be stuck like this forever I pray and hope to god that this is just withdrawals 

[Rhiannon]

1 hour ago, Cloudskishawna said:

Yes sir I'm still looking for success stories on mirtazapine I've only found 1 on here still looking I've been going on walks everyday now it seems to be helping I truly want to recover 

But how do you know if it's withdrawals or you and that question always scares me for some reason I don't want to be stuck like this forever I pray and hope to god that this is just withdrawals 

 

The walks will help.

 

You know it's withdrawals right now because you have just been through taking three psych drugs and quitting them and that is what causes withdrawals. You weren't like this before.

 

That's logic, which I know isn't much help. Pretty much everyone has those questions and those doubts while in withdrawal. It's really normal to be feeling those things at this point.

 

So if you need to, trust us. We know that what you are going through is withdrawal, because it's classic and we have seen it a zillion times.

 

You are going to come through this and you are going to be fine. It's just going to take longer than anybody wants it to. It may be hard for you to remember that right now. It's okay to ask for reassurance. We know and we can remember it for you right now.

 

Keep doing what Sass says about sleep. Sleep will help with the healing.  Take care of yourself. You are healing. You're going to come through this. One day at a time.

[Cloudskishawna]

You are right I mean I had anxiety before but it was never on this type of level  and then I was able to move pass it I want it my anxiety to go back to that normal level 😂 I thought it was bad then if only I've known what I know right now why does withdrawals cause all this 

Can I try cbd oil now to help some of the symptoms 

[Rhiannon]

A couple of my own personal thoughts about cannabis products:

1. They act on the endocannabinoid neurotransmitter family and produce tolerance when used regularly, same as ADs and other psych meds. However they have a LOT of different effects and are not so precisely targeted and appear to be much easier to taper off. There is a withdrawal effect of coming off cannabis after heavy and regular use, I don't know so much about lighter use.

2.  CBD and THC both cause increases in cortisol when used. I don't know how this might interact with withdrawal.

 

There are other hormonal effects with cannabinoids too that I am less familiar with.

 

I think the main thing is we just don't know how they will interact with withdrawal. If you can possibly give it a few more weeks with just using nondrug aids, that would be best.

[Cloudskishawna]

How many weeks should I wait to see and try 

I see so many people taking it in the groups that are withdrawing from antidepressants.  I guess we're all different 

Edited October 30, 2019 by Cloudskishawna

[Cloudskishawna]

So its possible for me to be going through withdrawals from the drugs I used 1 or 2 times this sucks I hope my brain reaches homeostasis again I'll never betray it again ever

[Cloudskishawna]

I'm learning so much about this mirtazapine drug it hits more receptors than any other drug no wonder why I feel like crap this week I hoping maybe next week I'll have some energy 

[Altostrata]

You weren't on any drug very long. It looks like your nervous system got upset from going off mirtazapine AND your trying all the other drugs.

 

Please be patient. You've only been off the drugs for a month.

 

Have you tried fish oil and magnesium? A lot of people find Epsom salts baths, which contain magnesium, to be very relaxing before bedtime. This can help you sleep.

 

A little melatonin might help, too, maybe 0.25mg to start.

 

 

[Cloudskishawna]

I trying magnesium I think it 400mg and omega 3 690 mg are those to much 

My only symptoms are fatigue and this off balance feeling 

I've really been ruminating alot more than usual 

Wow it dosen't even feel like I've been off the medication for a month now 

[Cloudskishawna]

How do I know if I'm in protracted withdrawls one lady said that if you taper to quickly then you will be in it she also said that if taper slowly then you really wouldn't feel withdrawals as much and since I'm feeling withdrawals dose that mean I tapered to quickly 

I didn't really get any sleep last night but I know why everytime I think I'm free I have a setback I'm just going to follow all of y'all instructions from now on I really want to try some CBD oil 

If I don't get any sleep tonight I might reinstate I don't know ✌

[Cloudskishawna]

I think I had a small window today I felt normal for a small moment I dont know what caused it I don't know if it was the viatmin d I took or the ginger tea I had drunk or prayer I really don't know but I'm glad I had it for that moment 

[Rhiannon]

4 hours ago, Cloudskishawna said:

I think I had a small window today I felt normal for a small moment I dont know what caused it I don't know if it was the viatmin d I took or the ginger tea I had drunk or prayer I really don't know but I'm glad I had it for that moment 

That's a good sign. I really think if you can just be patient, you're going to come through this and be able to move on and be free and do just fine.

 

I know it's hard, but just hang in there, you're healing and as long as you are gentle with your body, get sleep, take care of yourself extra carefully for a while, you are going to come through this. Please don't do anything drastic like taking more meds. I don't really think you need to, based on the symptoms you describe and your history. I think if you do take more meds or reinstate, in the end you will just be sorry, and you'll be right back here where you are now.

[Rhiannon]

Oh by the way, a friend of mine is looking for a warmer place to go for a visit this winter, her son wants to take her somewhere warm, but she wants to stay in the US so she doesn't have to get a passport. I suggested Austin, she's never been there. What's the weather like there in December? I remember it as being kind of a fun alternative hippie college town but it's quite a lot bigger now than when I lived in Texas in the 1980s.

 

Is there anything you could recommend to my friend? She's 70 and has a hairline fracture in her spine that causes some nerve problems so she can't really walk a lot.

[Cloudskishawna]

It's cold sometimes sometimes it's not texas weather is so all over the place 

But I would recommend that she go to pflugerville or roundrock those 2 places are not that bad because downtown Austin is way to crowded nowadays 

[Cloudskishawna]

I'm about to flush my mirtazapine pills down the toilet it's time 

[Cloudskishawna]

Question guys am I'm going to have to taper off of hydroxyzine I've taken it for 3 half months now I really hope I don't please let me know 

[Cloudskishawna]

I feel as though I'm the youngest person on here I've done my research on here I guess I might as well go out and live my life I start applying for jobs again hope I get one to keep me occupied 

[Cloudskishawna]

Hey guys I've been having this issue with my ear I had went to the doctors come to find out I have swimmers ear and my ear is in so much pain and I'm losing my hearing to in it which is causing the ringing in my ear I was asking if it was ok to take a antibiotic it's called ciprodex or should i try the natural remedie 

[Cloudskishawna]

For maybe the past 5 days I've only been getting 5 hours and its starting to really get to me on those 5 days 2 of those days I had they were good but now things are starting to get dark now I'm so tired and exhausted I've been taking cbd oil 600 mg and today I smoked a hemp plant on those days I think it was on Friday where I had took unisom 50 mg and I was out for a very long time invest sleep I had in a while I have a appointment with a cranial therpist at 3 and I also took some iodine because I heard it cam help with the tinnitus please any advice I just want my sleep back 

[Cloudskishawna]

I thinking about trying trazodone to see if it could possibly help I'm in need I don't know what's going on my sleep is getting bad again really need some advice 

[Cloudskishawna]

So I'm back just got back home from a psych ward the most horrible experience of my life I don't feel any better I actually feel worse and more traumatized they had gave me some trazodone there so now I'm wondering if I'm going to have to taper off this medication to I took it maybe only four times in the span of 5 months in July I took it twice and now this month I I took 25 mgs while at the psych ward so now I'm wondering if I kindled myself now even though only taking it for 4 times this experience has been traumatizing any advice would be nice I talked to rhinnan and she told I can take a tiny piece of mirtazapine and she said if that doesn't do it then I can take a tiny bit of ambien just letting you all know it has been pretty rough this week

[Altostrata]

Do not start additional Introductions topics.

 

On 10/30/2019 at 7:22 PM, Cloudskishawna said:

My only symptoms are fatigue and this off balance feeling 

I've really been ruminating alot more than usual 

 

On 11/20/2019 at 7:11 AM, Cloudskishawna said:

For maybe the past 5 days I've only been getting 5 hours and its starting to really get to me on those 5 days 2 of those days I had they were good but now things are starting to get dark now I'm so tired and exhausted I've been taking cbd oil 600 mg and today I smoked a hemp plant on those days I think it was on Friday where I had took unisom 50 mg and I was out for a very long time invest sleep I had in a while I have a appointment with a cranial therpist at 3 and I also took some iodine because I heard it cam help with the tinnitus please any advice I just want my sleep back 

 

On 11/21/2019 at 6:35 PM, Cloudskishawna said:

I thinking about trying trazodone to see if it could possibly help I'm in need I don't know what's going on my sleep is getting bad again really need some advice 

 

A lot of people with withdrawal insomnia would be thrilled to get 5 hours of sleep a night.

 

Unfortunate that you decided to go into the psychiatric ward instead of letting your nervous system settle down on its own.

 

Do you like the effect of the trazodone? If you don't like it and you've only taken it 4 times, you can stop it.

 

If it's upset your nervous system, you need to let it settle down. I have no suggestions for other drugs. We don't do that here.

[Cloudskishawna]

Thanks for all the help you have given me but I think I'm deciding to get on another medication thanks 

[Erell]

On 11/25/2019 at 8:57 PM, Cloudskishawna said:

So I'm back just got back home from a psych ward the most horrible experience of my life I don't feel any better I actually feel worse and more traumatized they had gave me some trazodone there so now I'm wondering if I'm going to have to taper off this medication to I took it maybe only four times in the span of 5 months in July I took it twice and now this month I I took 25 mgs while at the psych ward so now I'm wondering if I kindled myself 

 

Hi Cloud 

 

In your post you said that adding new drugs didn't help you.

 

I utterly understand your despair and your impatience To get back To life ! 

But there are too much testimonies here : when a CNS is already destabilised, adding new drugs only put fuel on the  fire. A lot of people here end on a new drug cocktail without feeling better.

 

Please, don't make yourself feeling worse. You Will stabilise eventually, its just that nobody can tell when.

 

I know how hard it is, we all do here. And what seems To make people Feel better is : time, only time. 

 

Wish you a Nice day.

 

 

[Cloudskishawna]

Thank you so much now I'm kinda glad that i stop taking the trazodone I just have this feeling it would possibly make me worse but I was taking hydroxzine though but I'll take it off and on if I'm in need 

But today I think it's my first time sleeping 8 hours or 7 who cares I'm happy I got some I had went walking yesterday at a forest place i think that helped but now I worried the trazdone might be covering up the insomnia but that should be impossible especially if I only took it 4 times