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Hello @composter   . Yes I did it. It seems to have helped even on despiritedness. I started training again and I'm eating healthy. There are 1-2 days when my mood fluctuates but nothing serious. Tomorrow I'm going to drop another 5%. How are you? Hi Attila.


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Johni

Hello @composter. Yes I did it. It seems to have helped even on despiritedness. I started training again and I'm eating healthy. There are 1-2 days when my mood fluctuates but nothing serious. Tomorrow I'm going to drop another 5%. How are you? Hi Attila.


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Great news, Attila. Glad you are eating healthy and staying active, and the mood issues have not been serious. Are you sticking with the general rule of 10% cuts per month?

 

I'm pretty stable these days, thanks for asking. Just proceeding with a very slow taper, about 5% cuts each month.


Apr 2018 - 10 mg Amitriptyline (Rx’d by neurologist for headaches & insomnia)

Jul + Aug 2018 - Reduced to 5 mg in July and then 2.5 mg in Aug (was too fast, hellish withdrawal at 2 weeks on 2.5 mg)

Sept 2018 - reinstated 10 mg Amitriptyline (emotional symptoms improved immediately, physical symptoms improved over time)

Oct 2018 - updosed to 11 mg Amitriptyline (compounded pills)

Stabilized in Apr 2019 (had 2 waves while stabilizing).

Began taper at rate of ~0.2 mg per month with liquid/dissolved taper. Current (Aug 2020) 5.3 mg.

 

Supplements: Omega-3 fish oil, Vit B12, coenzyme Q10, Hawthorn extract (for tachycardia)

Tools for insomnia/waves (as needed) : Epsom salt foot soaks, 0.5 mg Melatonin, quality time with supportive friends/family, remembering waves WILL PASS.

Lifestyle: Eat real foods, mostly plants; daily walking (30 min); track symptoms when needed on paper (adapted Glenmullen chart)

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Hello @composter
Yes, of course, I keep on. The amount is decreased by 5% in every 2 weeks. I'm glad you're doing well. I always try to keep myself busy and happy to be able to train again. Hi Attila


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Hi. From the point of view of pssd is there any difference to decrease?


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Johni

Hi!I've decided that I'll try the 2.5% weekly reduction. I wonder how my mood will swing, will it be less? I hope, everybody is fine. Greetings


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Hi
Yesterday I've reached -20%. I'm so irritable that I can't handle it. My question is, is it worth keeping until this goes away? Or is it a symptom that will be permanent?
I hope everybody is fine.

Hi


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Johni

Hi
I thought I'd check-in. I recently reached -30%.
I tolerate it surprisingly well. My mood is a bit flat but I’m also pretty active that may help. I exercise 5-6 times a week. I hope everybody is fine. Greetings from Hungary


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Johni

Hi,
I reached 6.3 mg 2 weeks ago. Until then, the reduction went quite well, although the combined 10% reduction turned out to be a lot for me, so I reduced the weight of the tablet by 1 mg in every 5 days. I tolerated this quite well. However, the withdrawal was reached me 2 weeks ago. Discomfort and depression. There are 1-2 things that have passed. Would it be worth keeping it longer? Thanks in advance for the answers. I wish you all the best.


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Használtam a Google fordítást magyarra. Remélem megértette javaslataimat.

 

Ha megvonási tünetei vannak, 2 választási lehetősége van.


A jelenlegi adagot (6,3 mg) megtarthatja mindaddig, amíg a tünetek elmúlnak. Ha a tünetek elviselhetők, ez a jobb lehetőség.


másképp


Az adagot 6,35 mg-ra (ha meg tudja mérni ezt az mennyiséget) vagy 6,4 mg-ra növelheti. Ne vegye be az előző 6,5 mg-os adagot.

 

 

 

I used the Google translation into Hungarian. I hope you understood my suggestions.

 

If you have withdrawal symptoms, you have 2 choices.


You can keep your current dose (6.3 mg) until your symptoms go away. If the symptoms are bearable, this is the better option.


otherwise


You can increase the dose to 6.35 mg (if you can measure this amount) or 6.4 mg. Do not take the previous dose of 6.5 mg.

 

 

 

 


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Thank you for your answer. Then I keep this dose. My biggest problem is dissatisfaction. I hope my spirit comes back soon. Training helps a bit, so I train as many times as I can. The Hungarian translation is perfect. Best wishes


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Gridley
37 minutes ago, Johni said:

bother you with these few questions? I wish you strength and perseverance from Hungary

Thank you for your good wishes.

 

I'd be happy to answer your questions as well as I can.

 

To make sure I see your post, type @Gridley.  You will see a rectangle appear.  Click on that.  That will tell me that you have written.  Then write your questions.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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@Gridley

 

Thanks. I really don't even know how to ask. I was overwhelmed by the displeasure. Will this change during the reduction yet? I’ve read in many places that it’s a constant companion if you can say so. I am still working for now and I hope I will know for a long time to come. Or is there a point when I won’t be able to stand it, so to speak? I hope I’ve managed to express myself well, somehow getting harder these days.
I wish you perseverance.

2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Posted (edited)

@Johni

 

Please start a topic about yourself in this forum 

What are your symptoms?

 

You have made a lot of changes in your dosage since last November, going up and down.   This is destabilizing to your system and is making you feel bad.  I suggest you make no further changes and stay at your current dose of 26.5 for several months so your nervous system and brain can stabilize.

 

The typical pattern for symptoms is that they come and go. You have what we call waves when things are bad and what we call windows when they get better.  So it will be up and down.  

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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thanks for the reply. I'm currently at 6.3mg. so far everything has gone quite well. but now this reluctance and lack of emotion has reached me as well. the last cut was 2 weeks, I've been going ever since. a lot has changed during the keeping. But then I still hold. I also did the cuts little by little. 1mg of tablet weight every 5 days. Thank you for answering. How are you today ?

2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, Johni said:

How are you today ?

I'm doing pretty well, thank you.  Sorry, I misread your signature and got the date confused with your dosage.    

 

We recommend tapering by no more than 10% of your current dose every four weeks.  1mg every 5 days is too fast.  If you are having significant withdrawal symptoms, it means you are tapering too fast.

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

Please don't forget to start an Introduction topic and post there.

 

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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at first I cut 10% a month at a time, but it turned out to be too much. Then from March I started taking 1mg of tablet weight every 5 days. Of course, I did holdings that way. I tolerated the much smaller cut much better than the one big one. Now I have exaggerated the last cutting cycle a bit. I wanted to reach -40%. But I realized it really wasn’t a competition. Thanks for the answer. I'm glad you're okay and have a good day today 😊😊

2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Posted (edited)

@Johni

 

You are posting in my Introduction topic.  You should be posting in your own topic.  Here is the link to your topic.  Please make all future posts there.

 

Johni : I want to break free

 

 

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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sorry


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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6 hours ago, Johni said:

sorry

That's fine, not a problem.

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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@Gridley

 

I wonder if you have experienced this symptom of sudden fatigue? Overnight I became a corpse tired. It's been about a week. No matter how much I sleep. Thank you for your answer. I wish you a nice day.

 

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2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Posted (edited)

Hi Johni,

 

  1. Was a dose missing?
  2. Do you take drugs at the same time every day?
  3. Have you done anything differently lately?
  4. Did you go to bed and get up at the usual time?
  5. Did you go out more than usual?
  6. More workouts?
  7. Did you eat a lot?
  8. Have you done something that stimulates the nervous system too much, such as video games, loud music, bright light, exciting or scary movies?
  9. Is there additional stress such as struggle, work problems, longer or harder work, finances, illness?
  10. Do you drink alcohol and / or caffeine?
  11. Bored because you have nothing to do?

 

Google translate:

 

  1. Hiányzott egy adag?
  2. Szed minden nap ugyanabban az időben a drogokat?
  3. Csináltál valamit másképp az utóbbi időben?
  4. Lefeküdtél és felálltál a szokásos időben?
  5. A szokásosnál többen mentél ki?
  6. Több edzés?
  7. Sokat ettél?
  8. Csináltál valamit, amely túl sokat stimulálja az idegrendszert, például videojátékok, hangos zene, erős fény, izgalmas vagy ijesztő filmek?
  9. Van-e további stressz, például küzdelem, munkaproblémák, hosszabb vagy nehezebb munka, pénzügyek, betegség?
  10. Alkoholt és / vagy koffeint iszik?
  11. Unatkozik, mert nincs mit tennie?
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Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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hello ChessieCat. thanks for the answer. I really didn't change anything. Since this fatigue lasts I have been trying to go to bed earlier. I sleep 7.5 hours on average. I don’t really go out to the store just to train and train. I have been training for 7 months. Now I’m trying to relax a bit in the workout although I feel like the workout has a good effect on me. My work is basically stressful but it’s always looser in the summer so it’s good now. I drink coffee yes but so far no problem. I don’t do too much because my interest has left me pretty low. And I was pretty creative 🙁 Thank you for your time. Have a nice day 😊🌞


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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I've just done a check of your reductions and they all seem okay.

 

25 Oct      9.5      

8 Nov        9          5.26%

13 Dec      8          11.11%

20 Jan      7.5       6.25%

27 Apr      7           6.66%

2 Jun        6.5        7.14%

25 Jun     6.3        3.08%       

 

Have you started or stopped any new supplements?

 

It might just be a regular wave that you are experiencing.

 

It might also be the Covid situation which is affecting you.  It has been a very strange year so far and it is hard not to be affected by what has happened because it has been so unusual and there is still a lot of uncertainty.  We have other members who have been reporting that they are experiencing unexpected and/or worse waves than usual.

 

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When a wave hits it is best to accept it (instead of fighting against it or feeling negative about it), practise self care and get through it the best we can.  It's good to do some relaxation exercises as well as some physical activity.  You might also find it helpful to do some simple activities for your brain like some puzzles.  Nothing hard, just something to give your brain a little bit of work to do.  It is difficult when we are creative but aren't able to do our creative things.  That happens to me too so I know how frustrating it is.  Just make sure that you don't overdo it.  Everything in moderation.  During the morning think about what you can do during the afternoon after lunch.  And in the afternoon think about what you can do the next morning.  Even if you don't end up doing them you have been giving your brain a bit of work and distracting yourself for a while.

 

I had been home for 3 months by myself and not going out and I was getting very bored.  We were only allowed to go for a drive for essential things.  I bought some joggers online and drove to pick them up (instead of getting them mailed) so I had a reason to go out.  Driving was good because I was using my brain.

 

Have you seen this topic?  It's hasn't been available because it has been updated recently. 

 

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And this is good too.  Our brains are busy doing a lot of work.

 

Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

 


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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26 minutes ago, Johni said:

My work is basically stressful but it’s always looser in the summer so it’s good now.

 

It's possible that your brain enjoys the challenge of the job when it's more stressful but now your brain is feeling a bit lazy especially if you aren't doing any recreational things which use your brain.

 

I hope things get back to WDnormal soon.


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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thanks for the answer. What I started recently is magnesium glycinate. My work does not require a lot of mental work, except for enduring 1-2 people 😂. Many of my symptoms have passed since the last cut. started with 5 days of continuous suicidal thoughts which, thanks to god, is a thing of the past na a little depressed feeling left but it is also a thing of the past. Now he is only preoccupied with fatigue and frustration. Thanks for the links. I’m still holding this month, and then I’ll see how to move on. Thanks for the help. I also look at the links 😊


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Gridley
3 hours ago, Johni said:

sudden fatigue?

 

Johni,

 

Fatigue is a common withdrawal symptom.  I have very little energy.

angie007: Severe fatigue / tiredness / lethargy / lethargic ...


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hello @Gridley .Interestingly, most days I wake up in the evening, meaning I come to my senses. I wonder if I stay tired or not after my workout. My symptoms so far have always pretty much disappeared after training. Of course, only temporarily. I wish you strength and perseverance.😊


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Hi there. A little update. I stopped taking magnesium 2 days ago. My fatigue is almost completely gone and I feel much more viable. I don’t know if it’s really because I stopped taking magnesium or my wave just ended. I was a little reluctant again. Thank God. I wish everyone a nice weekend and strength.💪💪💪


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Gridley
2 hours ago, Johni said:

My fatigue is almost completely gone

That's great, Johni.  If the magnesium makes you tired, there's no need to take it.  If you want to try it again some time in the future you could take a much lower dose and see how that does.  


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Aug 13, 2020 at 0.1mg

Taper is 99.5% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Thanks. I've never felt so tired before. but thank god it is over.


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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jozeff

Good news Johni!!

How much magnesium were you taking? I take 400 mg myself.

 

Hope you will have this energy level for much longer!!

 

 

Cheers

 

Jozeff


- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

- Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

- April 2018 -  June 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

- June 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 weeks, felt absolutely awful.

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). Try to stabilize.-

START TAPER 29 apr 2019 @ 18 mg,    29th Jun 16.4 mg / 19th aug 15.4 mg / 25th Aug 15.2 mg / 30th sep 14.0 mg / 4th dec 13.1 mg2020 citalopram taper approx 1 % per week: 03rd Jan 12.75 mg / 28 Jan 12.29 mg / 18th Feb 11.83 mg, 25th Feb 11.68 mg hold../7th May 11.33 mg hold, 4th Aug 10.98 mg. Holding because of not feeling well.

 

 

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Hello. Initially 100mg before bed for a more restful sleep, then 200at. I never woke up at night but somehow still slept restlessly. I was active all weekend. so it's good that I stopped. all the best 😊


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Thabks,!

 

Did the magnesium make you miserable? Think I never heard that before.

 

Jozeff


- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

- Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

- April 2018 -  June 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

- June 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 weeks, felt absolutely awful.

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). Try to stabilize.-

START TAPER 29 apr 2019 @ 18 mg,    29th Jun 16.4 mg / 19th aug 15.4 mg / 25th Aug 15.2 mg / 30th sep 14.0 mg / 4th dec 13.1 mg2020 citalopram taper approx 1 % per week: 03rd Jan 12.75 mg / 28 Jan 12.29 mg / 18th Feb 11.83 mg, 25th Feb 11.68 mg hold../7th May 11.33 mg hold, 4th Aug 10.98 mg. Holding because of not feeling well.

 

 

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Hi there. A little update. Again, I started to reduce the drug pretty slowly. I have a question. I have been struggling with this problem for some time, so to speak. Somehow all my interest ceased. Whatever I’m trying to do is like I can’t connect to things. There really is nothing to upload. It's a bit of an all-out feeling. I have a hard time wearing this. Is this a common thing, so to speak? Thanks. Have a nice day everyone.


2011-2019 április cipralex 10mg 

2019 május 7,5 

2019 június 5 mg 

2019. június 26. Boom (depresszió, álmatlanság, verejtékezés, adhedonia, üres elme)

2019. június 26. - most 10 mg (adhedonia, szorongás)

2019.10.25. 9,5 mg.2019.11.8. 9mg.2019.12.13. 8mg,2020.01.20. 7.5mg,2020.04.27 7mg,2020.06.02 6.5mg,2020.06.25. 6,3mg, 2020.07.28. 6mg, 2020.09.12. 5.4mg, 

 

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Yes it is very common.  There are more links in Post #1 of this topic.

 

apathy-anhedonia-emotional-numbness-emotional-anesthesia

 


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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