mustafa: withdrawals

[Rhiannon]

4 hours ago, mustafa said:

Thank you Rhiannon for your fantastic words, motivation words and support are very gentle to our hearts, Really thanks for them.

I think it is very good as u said to have psychiatrists who believe in WD, during my psychiatric treatment and excessive suffer, it was impossible to find someone who believe in WD, but here is a full society confirms this truth, this is really helpful despite bad suffer. 

I took a look at the book you wrote about, it is about ADs harm as I could deduce. It may be helpful to convince people not to have ADS.

Finally I have to thank u and @Altostrata, I really consider you as angels, to do such effort to rescue alot of people

Iam sorry if my words are tough and not gentle, excuse me please if they are ❤️

 

Your words seem fine to me, not tough at all. I think you are communicating well.

 

Unfortunately I have not been able to find translations of the book Anatomy of an Epidemic, I don't know where to look for those, Google did not help me. 🙂

It is the story of how the profession of psychiatry became one of medicating people with drugs looking for magic solutions that were, as it turns out, not well supported by science. And then how that profession has become entangled with the huge pharmaceutical industry. He covers not just ADs but also other categories of drugs. 

 

I find it very well written and very well researched.

 

Have a good weekend Mustafa, I am glad to hear that you feel you are improving somewhat.

[Erell]

Dear mustafa, 

Don't apologize, I find that you are communicating very Well!

At least, for a French girl 😉

Have you found a flat?

I thought strongly of you today  : I had a friend on the Phone who is going To visit Egypt in december!

 

Big hugs ❤

[Altostrata]

You're welcome, mustafa. You are part of our community.

[rola]

salut mustafa 

j 'espère que tu va bien as tu déménagé ce samedi ? 

tiens nous au courant 

je te souhaite un bon dimanche ici en france il fait très froid la neige arrive à grands pas 😎

 

hi mustafa

I hope you have moved this Saturday?

keep us in touch

I wish you a good Sunday here in France it is very cold the snow is coming fast 😎

à bientôt 

[mustafa]

Hello my dear friends, 

Iam I'm my way for my new flat away from my old location.

Walking in the street was very hard, I felt totally detached and despair.

Very sad 😥.

I feel my life turned into hell, iam very tired and don't know what I will do then.

[Gridley]

13 minutes ago, mustafa said:

Very sad 😥.

I'm sorry you're feeling bad, Mustafa.  It will get better.  It just takes time, more time than we would like, but healing is happening even though you can't feel it.

[Rhiannon]

1 hour ago, mustafa said:

Hello my dear friends, 

Iam I'm my way for my new flat away from my old location.

Walking in the street was very hard, I felt totally detached and despair.

Very sad 😥.

I feel my life turned into hell, iam very tired and don't know what I will do then.

 

These feelings are a normal part of withdrawal. With time, as you heal, the feelings will improve as well. Try not to listen too much to the thoughts of despair. They are actually just symptoms of withdrawal, the same as any other. You are doing great. It's a difficult road with lots of ups and downs but over time you will continue to improve and one day you will have your life back.

[Erell]

Dear friend,

 

This is a big change in your life, I would like To be in Egypt To help you To set up your flat !

 

Big hugs ❤

[mustafa]

4 hours ago, Gridley said:

I'm sorry you're feeling bad, Mustafa.  It will get better.  It just takes time, more time than we would like, but healing is happening even though you can't feel it.

My dear gridley, 

I don't know how to thank you for your words, they were very very supportive; I read them on my way travelling, it looks for me that going out and travelling can change the mood even a little but it does.

2 hours ago, Rhiannon said:

 

These feelings are a normal part of withdrawal. With time, as you heal, the feelings will improve as well. Try not to listen too much to the thoughts of despair. They are actually just symptoms of withdrawal, the same as any other. You are doing great. It's a difficult road with lots of ups and downs but over time you will continue to improve and one day you will have your life back.

many Thanks to you Rhiannon.

If something makes me not panic and accept every thing, it is to have you and @Gridley as friends, you are very good friends♥️.

2 hours ago, Erell said:

Dear friend,

 

This is a big change in your life, I would like To be in Egypt To help you To set up your flat !

 

Big hugs ❤

Erell, i think you are not just a human, you are an angel. Always your words are touching my heart❤️.

I hope you are very well . It will be soon don't forget ♥️.I think we are very close friends and I hope you visit Egypt or I visit France soon to see my friend erell.

Hugs to all of you.

[Cocopuffz17]

7 hours ago, Rhiannon said:

 

These feelings are a normal part of withdrawal. With time, as you heal, the feelings will improve as well. Try not to listen too much to the thoughts of despair. They are actually just symptoms of withdrawal, the same as any other. You are doing great. It's a difficult road with lots of ups and downs but over time you will continue to improve and one day you will have your life back.

Amazing words! 

[Giulietta]

Hello @mustafa

 

Moving into your own flat is a sign of strength and healing - very positive - even though it is difficult.  It is difficult for anyone.

 

I saw that you are looking for 'Anatomy of an Epidemic'. If you look on youtube you will find a few videos of the author talking about this (and other videos of him). Your written English is excellent - and sometimes the spoken language is easier to follow.  YOu can also use the translate button to help undestand. But - you are smart and probably know about this option.

 

This is frustrating - no matter what stage we are in - and we all get tired of it. We are recovering all the time. We are all friends here so even if you feel alone and isolated - you are part of this group.

 

Is there a group you can participate in so you meet other people? If you can go out and go walking - that is a good sign.

 

Hugs,

Giuilietta

 

 

[mustafa]

On 11/13/2019 at 2:09 AM, Cocopuffz17 said:

Amazing words! 

Hello my dear, 

How are you @Cocopuffz17, I hope you do well.

I really thank you for making me pay attention for nutrition and how it affects the symptomts, this is what I was telling @Erell about, I don't have a diet, but food is a factor in this thing( the withdrawals). When I have certain foods, I feel stimulating symptomts and other foods are helpful.

I know that @Altostrata, @Gridley and all moderators can't give advices about diets, not all of people can eat healthy and certain foods, they may be expensive or not available for some, but food really have an effect.

I think you should continue advise people about food, cocopuffz.

Have a great day.

[rola]

3 minutes ago, mustafa said:

Bonjour mon cher, 

Comment allez-vous @ Cocopuffz17 , j'espère que vous allez bien.

Je vous remercie vraiment de m'avoir fait prêter attention à la nutrition et à ses effets sur les symptômes. C'est ce que je disais à @Erell  . Je n'ai pas de régime, mais la nourriture est un facteur déterminant dans cette situation (les retraits). Lorsque j'ai certains aliments, je ressens des symptômes stimulants et d'autres aliments sont utiles.

Je sais que @ Altostrata , @Gridley  et tous les modérateurs ne peuvent donner de conseils sur les régimes alimentaires, tous ne peuvent pas manger sainement et certains aliments, ils peuvent être coûteux ou ne sont pas disponibles pour certains, mais les aliments ont vraiment un effet.

Je pense que vous devriez continuer à conseiller les gens sur la nourriture, cocopuffz.

Passez une bonne journée.

hi mustapha
how are you how was your first week for food it affects our symptoms,
as soon as I eat sugar the effects are intense like for coffee
before I was three coffee a day and I reduced to one in the morning
I'm a bit like you I do not know what to really delete in the diet
and the budget is not going with as
here I kiss you and carry you well . 😉

[Cocopuffz17]

6 minutes ago, mustafa said:

Hello my dear, 

How are you @Cocopuffz17, I hope you do well.

I really thank you for making me pay attention for nutrition and how it affects the symptomts, this is what I was telling @Erell about, I don't have a diet, but food is a factor in this thing( the withdrawals). When I have certain foods, I feel stimulating symptomts and other foods are helpful.

I know that @Altostrata, @Gridley and all moderators can't give advices about diets, not all of people can eat healthy and certain foods, they may be expensive or not available for some, but food really have an effect.

I think you should continue advise people about food, cocopuffz.

Have a great day.

You are welcome. I never used to pay attention to nutrition. That is what got me in this situation in the first place. But with changing my nutrition I have been able to notice so much the effect it has on ones body. When I eat off my nutrition plan, 99% of the time have my WD symptoms return. When I stay on it they are almost non-existent. 
 

I truly believe The Plant Paradox by Dr.Gundry should be a book everyone reads with going through WDs. In a mere 2 weeks I felt the best I’ve ever felt in my life and knew that I could come off this medication at that time. Now over a year later. I am pushing 10 months off of paroxetine. Symptoms are way less than they were and improve weekly. 
 

I hope all the best for you! 

[mustafa]

59 minutes ago, Guilietta said:

Hello @mustafa

 

Moving into your own flat is a sign of strength and healing - very positive - even though it is difficult.  It is difficult for anyone.

 

I saw that you are looking for 'Anatomy of an Epidemic'. If you look on youtube you will find a few videos of the author talking about this (and other videos of him). Your written English is excellent - and sometimes the spoken language is easier to follow.  YOu can also use the translate button to help undestand. But - you are smart and probably know about this option.

 

This is frustrating - no matter what stage we are in - and we all get tired of it. We are recovering all the time. We are all friends here so even if you feel alone and isolated - you are part of this group.

 

Is there a group you can participate in so you meet other people? If you can go out and go walking - that is a good sign.

 

Hugs,

Giuilietta

 

 

Dear @Guilietta,

thank you for supporting me, I deeply like being a member in SA community and like all of my friends here.

Yes, iam greatful to that you can follow my english. I think my english communication skills are much better than they are now but being depersonalized make you lose sensation for any words; when I say the word ( heart) so it doesn't necessarily means that I mean the thing in my chest that pumping blood ( this is what deoersonalization makes); deoersonalization makes me not sure about my Arabic words, so imagine how would be the case for English words!!

I use the translator alot, especially when I reading your posts😂😂, your English is so professional to me, when you told erell that in 2020 we will be Phoenix, I was never to understand that you are talking about a bird 😂.

Iam so happy for being able to communicate and say hummor.

This can be difficult for an Arabic speaker, I become afraid of being silly or say tough words, but I again trust my friends' kind hearts.

Good night for all of you ♥️.

[Giulietta]

Hello Mustafa,

 

 

I have  had some trouble recalling words, using the right word, spelling and sometimes typing. It is really odd since I never had theses issues before. While I am not the best writer in the world - it is an ordeal it is nearly impossible on some days. I can imagine how difficult it must be since it is a foreign langage for you! Your English is quite good.

 

6 hours ago, mustafa said:

I use the translator alot, especially when I reading your posts😂😂, your English is so professional to me,

 

This is most kind of you to say.  Phoenix applies to all of us - and it is symbolic of rebirth. Does that make sense to you?

 

Translator is a good tool - we can learn new words too!

 

6 hours ago, mustafa said:

This can be difficult for an Arabic speaker, I become afraid of being silly or say tough words, but I again trust my friends' kind hearts.

 

No worries about that. My foreign language is German and it is quite rusty. I am embarrassed about making mistakes - even though I mean no insult or to make myself look like a dummy. That being said - most Germans I know - are impressed that I speak the language as well as I do. And all of us feel the swame about you and @Erell

 

Have a good night

G.

[mustafa]

On 11/18/2019 at 5:28 PM, rola said:

hi mustapha
how are you how was your first week for food it affects our symptoms,
as soon as I eat sugar the effects are intense like for coffee
before I was three coffee a day and I reduced to one in the morning
I'm a bit like you I do not know what to really delete in the diet
and the budget is not going with as
here I kiss you and carry you well . 😉

My Dear rola, I hope you are very good and doing well,

Actually, I don't have a diet and I think it is hard to have a diet especially while suffering WD( this is for all of us) but I can notice that the list of food that called yes and no foods is good to help you eat certain foods; for me I don't think I won't  break the diet that help in WD, I always eat out of this diet but at certain times, I decide to eat alot of my food from this list.

Well, I find olive oil very helpful, this is proved by the book that @Cocopuffz17 sent me and also known in my culture as a holy plant ( if holy is a true word),

Add it to your food.

I think yes, sugar is very stimulating to symptomts, I avoid it as much as I can.

Try date as a source of having sugar

Please, @Gridley tell me if date is also stimulating or not ( as it contain sugar) because I think it isn't .

Take care of yourself my dear.

 

 

 

 

 

[Cocopuffz17]

1 hour ago, mustafa said:

My Dear rola, I hope you are very good and doing well,

Actually, I don't have a diet and I think it is hard to have a diet especially while suffering WD( this is for all of us) but I can notice that the list of food that called yes and no foods is good to help you eat certain foods; for me I don't think I won't  break the diet that help in WD, I always eat out of this diet but at certain times, I decide to eat alot of my food from this list.

Well, I find olive oil very helpful, this is proved by the book that @Cocopuffz17 sent me and also known in my culture as a holy plant ( if holy is a true word),

Add it to your food.

I think yes, sugar is very stimulating to symptomts, I avoid it as much as I can.

Try date as a source of having sugar

Please, @Gridley tell me if date is also stimulating or not ( as it contain sugar) because I think it isn't .

Take care of yourself my dear.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes,  I have been following that nutrition lifestyle for over a year now. All during withdrawal and tapering. I get a huge amount of my calorie intake from olive oil.... probably 20,000 calories a month. Whenever I slip and eat fast food. Withdrawals almost immediately come the next day. Reminds me to get back at it. I would of not been able to do this without nutrition changes.

[rola]

@mustafa @Cocopuffz17

HY 

 

I too in my culture I use a lot of olive oil, this summer when I went to Italy I bought several because in France we do not find good quality

in Egypt it must be better , I also use oil nigella that is very bitter but very beneficial for health

I also eat a lot of dates but it's not easy to follow a strict diet

Good day friends

[Gridley]

14 hours ago, mustafa said:

f date is also stimulating or not ( as it contain sugar) because I think it isn't .

Dates contain a lot of sugar.  If they don't bother you, that's great--enjoy yourself.  It's an individual thing.

[Giulietta]

Hi Mustafa.

 

As Gridley indicated - dates do contain a lot of sugar - and in fact there isn't a dried fruit (of which I am aware) that does not. I love dried bananas and craisins - (craisins + cranberries) - so they are off my list. 😢

 

Maybe you can have dates every so often.

 

IH ope you are enjoying your new digs!

 

Giuilietta

[mustafa]

Hello my friends,

Day after day I get very terrified from the idea of rebirth, to see life again; it looks to me as if someone threw you in the middle of a sea without being able to swim,

Iam really terrified, how I will live normal?, will I be able to forget?, Will the feeling of being hurt make me not balanced and permanently tired.

I think this horror will increase more when iam totally emotionally well.

@Altostrata, @Gridley, @Rhiannon

[Erell]

Dear Mustafa 

 

I've read a lot of people here who recovered and say 2 things  :

 

- they don't Feel traumatised by this expérience, as they Feel better and better, they re-discover life. 

They also often say that they spend days without thinking about this period of their life. 

 

- Secondly,  they all say that this expérience has changed them, but in a good way. 

 

The terrifying thoughts you have are a WD symptoms : it means that as you Will get better, these terrifying feelings Will disappear.

It is not you that is terrified, it is a symptom. And the real you Will reappear 🤗

 

That is what I read in the Success stories  : dear friend, one day you'll laugh in the street too  and you Will enjoy life. 

 

Big hugs ❤

[Giulietta]

Hello @mustafa

 

Our mutual and dear friend in Brittany @Erell is now mentoring others. This is a huge sign of growth for her and bright future for you and everyone. 

 

18 minutes ago, Erell said:

It is not you that is terrified, it is a symptom. And the real you Will reappear

 

The feeling of being terrified is a temporary symptom. It is not permanent and it has not become you. The real you is there just concealed by the WD symptoms -i n this case the anxiety and feelings of terror.

 

On days - and partial days - when I am not having symptoms - or very mild ones - I am able to forget about them. When the symptos come back as uninivted house guests - I am reminded that I am in WD - and know that the symptoms will go away.

 

 

Hugs,

Giuilietta

 

 

[Altostrata]

1 hour ago, mustafa said:

Hello my friends,

Day after day I get very terrified from the idea of rebirth, to see life again; it looks to me as if someone threw you in the middle of a sea without being able to swim,

Iam really terrified, how I will live normal?, will I be able to forget?, Will the feeling of being hurt make me not balanced and permanently tired.

I think this horror will increase more when iam totally emotionally well.

@Altostrata, @Gridley, @Rhiannon

 

Profound questions, mustafa. This would be a wonderful discussion in our Finding Meaning forum.

[mustafa]

Hello dears, iam sorry for delayed reply.

Just being depersonalized make you detached, I don't have the emotions that make me resort to SA despite that it is a safe place to me but thanks to deoersonalization, every thing is strange.

I have to thank you very much @Altostrata for your hard seek to help others To help people. I hope you get these blessings you give to us, into your life.

Some new feelings to me these days but , the worst thing about deoersonalization is the transitions you have in withdrawals and your feeling of yourself. When having that very dulled awareness, you aren't really bothered from the 'withdrawals' troubles' no, it is from the idea of how this will be fixed( I know of us has this problem with withdrawlas but some withdrawlas are  hyper anxiety, tension and depression but in all of these, you don't feel detached from your inner self with almost no awareness. As our brain must surprise us with its ability, it makes these transitions( slow transitions) to get my awareness back in a way acceptable and convincing to me.

Well, now iam still feeling physical numb and dulled awareness too (but for sure not like before).

Yesterday I was walking in street and a friend stopped me to talk and asked about my study in the faculty of engineering, I couldn't answer his question because I wasn't able to collect my answer, I told him you can visit me at home to have deeper speech and left him gently.

I typed to you my dears because I needed this❤️

Hugs to all of you ❤️

[Altostrata]

I know what you mean, mustafa. Hang in there, it will very slowly get better.

[mustafa]

Hello dears, 

I hope you all are ok.

Still struggling with deoersonalization, still feel out of the world and detached from everything.

I have a big fear, from the beginning of withdrawals, I never felt worried or afraid from anything even not worried about myself, when I was thinking about myself and how iam destroyed, the response is weak and no worries from myself about myself. iam very afraid from a horror hit, this feeling controls me all the time( by the way it is very good to say all the time, that I was feeling detached from actions and can be detached from anything even it happened since too short time).

Iam afraid from sudden panic attacks and horror that make me do anything without control. Sometimes I reassure the not stressed myself( if u understand this) that if this happened, alot of things can be done by me to rescue myself. But the long time suffer can destroy the motivation I built for myself.

I hope iam near to that all neurosmitters are fixed, I hope it is soon.

Hugs ❣️

[rola]

@mustafa

courage mustapha ,une pensée pour toi 

 

[Giulietta]

Hello Mustafa,

 

I would love to know how to repair neurotransmitters faster too   Part of it is needing to 'wake them up' - to activate them. Even though we all seem to follow best practices to heal - our mind and bodies take their time about it.

 

It is frustrating - we don't know when we'll recover and just plod along. I'm really glad we are connected together through SA.  I wonder if we will all have (most of) the same WD symptoms at one time of another?

 

On 11/22/2019 at 5:41 PM, mustafa said:

dulled awareness too (but for sure not like before).

Yesterday I was walking in street and a friend stopped me to talk and asked about my study in the faculty of engineering, I couldn't answer his question because I wasn't able to collect my answer

 

Do you mean you did not know what to say - or how to say it?   Or that you had trouble to recall - but you know the information is your memory.

 

I think I know what you mean and if this is the case and I experience this quite a bit.  Is it different than 'foggy thinking' - when you can't think clearly?

 

Being afraid of something happening may cause you to have more anxiety and feel panic.

 

9 hours ago, mustafa said:

But the long time suffer can destroy the motivation I built for myself.

 

It is tiring. We wonder when we will get over this. I know there is never a day without any of these symptoms - and some days are better (or much worse!) than others.   Others write that acceptance and patience are important. I am honestly not good at either of these.  I will have a few OK days - then  a surprise day when I am dizzy the entire morning and can't do anything. Even though I have learned tht this will pass it is a remid

 

well -my ears are ringing (this ahsn't happened in a while)  😕 and time to turn off the computer. Hope you have a better day tomorrow. Sending hugs

 

Giuilietta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Erell]

19 hours ago, mustafa said:

Iam afraid from sudden panic attacks and horror that make me do anything without control.

 

My dear friend,

 

I utterly understand this fear : I have the same,  the feeling of going crazy for good during a huge panic attack.

 

BUT :

 

- this is a 'what if', fear of the fear. It is just a thought, a WD symptom of your brain playing tricks. It is not the reality.

 

- if one day you have a panic attack, this attack won't last forever, it would only be temporary.

 

You're not going crazy my friend, you just have WD normal intrusive thoughts, and one day they Will only be a memory 😙

[mustafa]

20 hours ago, rola said:

@mustafa

courage mustapha ,une pensée pour toi 

 

Dear rola, since I have been a member in SA, I had times that Iam not sure of my feelings and emotions but I was very sure of that your words are very supportive to me, you told me to be brave and this means alot to me, I really thank you so much and I hope you have a smooth taper, I always view your thread and follow your posts with brass monkey and altostrata.

Good day for you, friend ♥️.

11 hours ago, Guilietta said:

I would love to know how to repair neurotransmitters faster too

Like you, I would love this knowledge alot, I don't know a certain thing to do this; search for 'zamzam water' , I have a recommendation about this water that can fasten a bit the repair of neurosmitters but I didn't try yet.

The process is really frustrating but I have no choice except waiting, temporary suffer is better than to suffer the rest of my life. We have the expression of rebirth that is said alot by us, I think I need to say this 2 times, the first was when I joined 'SA', I will never forget my friends here , you, erell, rola, gridley, Rhiannon, altostrata and all of you and I love to remember you.

11 hours ago, Guilietta said:

Or that you had trouble to recall - but you know the information is your memory.

Yes, this is it, Iam unable to recall my information, as if the neurosmitter path that enables me to recall isn't connected or don't work, of course I know them and have a part in memorey

 

11 hours ago, Guilietta said:

it different than 'foggy thinking' - when you can't think clearly?

It is the same for all of survivors have problem with neurosmitters but, the psychiatric problem we have can have an effect on these neurosmitters' problems' feelings for example, if you are depersonalized with neurosmitters problems, like me, you will feel lazy, dulled, and very detached but if you are hyper stressed with neuro problems, it will be your suffer, foggy brain and severe sleeping problems but both of us have the problem of recalling information.

Like you, I consider patience as enemy😂, rather than all Egyptians and arabians, they have great abilities to wait even years, they find patience a great tool to get what they want but iam different to them with no ability to change myself😂.

Good day for you too my dear❤️

1 hour ago, Erell said:

this is a 'what if', fear of the fear. It is just a thought, a WD symptom of your brain playing tricks. It is not the reality.

My dear erell, you don't really imagine how I feel calm when reading your words, I hope you are fine.

Well, this is what iam trying to tell myself, but I play tricks to my brain too 🤘, sometimes iam upset and this is why I start to write to get support but other times and when iam in a shinning case and find these thoughts or fears easy, I write down my feelings these and tell myself: when you are ok, this will be you; I do this to prohibit my brain to have these thoughts next times. 

I hope I talk about all of theose actions in life as memory, some of these actions are sad but having you as friends makes me forget about these sad ones.

Thanks for all of you ♥️♥️

[Gridley]

8 minutes ago, mustafa said:

The process is really frustrating

I know it is, Mustafa.  We really don't know of any way to speed up the healing of the neurotransmitters.  We do know that they heal, that it is a gradual process, and that you are healing every moment, even if yin aren't aware of it.  They are slowly coming back "on-line," one by one.  I like to think of the decommissioned neurotransmitters "popping up" like a field of fallen flowers seeking the sun and functioning again.

[Giulietta]

2 hours ago, mustafa said:

Yes, this is it, Iam unable to recall my information, as if the neurosmitter path that enables me to recall isn't connected or don't work, of course I know them and have a part in memorey

 

 

Hello @mustafa

 

Short term memory is a common problem for WD - and affects us some days more than others. I can tell you that I have lived with it much of my life - due to epilepsy and meds for it. ADs are also associated with it - WD makes everything worse. 

 

Things that I have done -  is say to people -

first - there is nothing wrong with this. don't feel bad about it.  tough luck for them, not you! Here are a few ideas:

"oh, yes, can't put my finger on it now - let me get back to you. if I forget - please text or email me and I will get back to you. " I use this on the phone too.

"oh, right. I have to look t hat up. I have it written down. My mind is focused on ___"

if a simple how's it going question - like you say - oh, doing well, and maybe have something you might have committed to recall OR simply say doing well, and turn the question around to them.

 

Remember it's not your fault. Rhi told me it is like having a brain injury so our brains don't function 100% normally during WD.

 

For some people oranizing information is something called 'executive funtion' is impacted - mine is also worsened in WD. This includese trouble with recall of information, recall of words, and organization of information (amongst other things).

 

If I am at work or people who don't undestand this - I am slower than a turtle. I  just put in extra time and it stinks.  Things you could do that might help:

 

1. Identify What are they asking  and what do I have to tell them. = so trouble to recall and remember their question. So I look tings up and scribble answers. Also - if verbal communication is easeir - like needling clarification on tomsething - call them. I often have to do this.

2. Try to use bullet points for your answers under their questions.

 

If you see my writing sort of disorganized and I repeat things this is why. I undestand if others on SA have the same so I hope they are forgiving - as I am for them.

 

This is why I don't write to so manypeople and PM's are easeir for me.  I don't have to read up and down posts and remember how to comment on what someone else has said.  Does this make sense? I also can only remember a few people's issues and want to give meaningful ideas and support.

 

Do you hve this too?

 

Never ever feel bad about yourself. These syptoms will go away with WD.YOu always have my empathy and support. If you have any other questions - ask!

 

Oh, I use lots of post-its and have a messy desk (and many, many people do!).

 

Giulietta

[mustafa]

On 11/28/2019 at 2:52 PM, Gridley said:

like a field of fallen flowers seeking the sun and functioning again

did you know that your describtion is very calming?, it makes me focus on building and neglect destroy, thanks for this gridley, i would like @Erell and @Guilietta to see this.

[Gridley]

53 minutes ago, mustafa said:

very calming?

Thanks, Mustafa. That makes me feel good.