Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 11, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 6:40 PM, mustafa said: I can now say that 85% or more from my neurosmitters are fixed😘😘😍. Wouaw!!! This is huge ! how glad I am to read this! See how much you've healed?! Keep on the good work dear friend, we will get there ❤️ 1 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 7:14 PM, Erell said: Wouaw!!! This is huge ! how glad I am to read this! See how much you've healed?! Keep on the good work dear friend, we will get there ❤️ Thank u erell, how are u!? I hope you are stable now ❤️ i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hello @Gridley, I hope u are ok ❤️. For a long time iam not on SA because depreonalization may disable me but everything is still ok .. I have a question pls that if we said I will go through a number of waves before iam totally neurosmitters recovered, can I have symptomts in the last waves like those ones in the first wave immediately after tapering the drug!? Thanks in advance gridley for all your support to me ❤️❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi @Altostrata, Would u pls answer my above question to gridley and sorry for this . Good day ❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 22, 2020 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2020 Mustafa, you may have waves and windows for a long time. The windows should start to get longer and waves shorter. We don't refer to neurotransmitters. Your entire body is fixing itself, with your nervous system inside. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Altostrata said: Mustafa, you may have waves and windows for a long time. The windows should start to get longer and waves shorter. We don't refer to neurotransmitters. Your entire body is fixing itself, with your nervous system inside. Thanks alto so much ❤️❤️ i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hello my dear friends, I hope everyone of you is progressed and very fine. Some days are very easy and gentle and the others are hard, the magnitude is the disabling isn't too big and I can neglect alot of things that were terrible and very disabling before; I like that idea that in the near future ( as I hope), I will do everything with no problem and with no need to hang on or push myself. I know there still hard times, but iam so happy that I could remeber alot of actions and my head isn't that hugely numbed, it is greatly relaxed compared to before. Iam still despite this progress afraid of the idea of losting the (I or me), don't know how should I behave after iam ok but I will try mybest to remove stress and keep hanging . I hope all of u have great times. Mustafa i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 26, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 26, 2020 I'm pretty sure that when you'll Feel good you won't ask yourself how To brave, and that you'll just enjoy life, stronger than ever 😏 Hang on my friend, it sounds like you're on the good path ❤ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Vegalia Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hello Mustafa, Courage. Erell is right. Vega. 2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2 28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg 15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg 25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 7:25 PM, Erell said: I'm pretty sure that when you'll Feel good you won't ask yourself how To brave, and that you'll just enjoy life, stronger than ever 😏 Hang on my friend, it sounds like you're on the good path ❤ On 1/26/2020 at 8:54 PM, Vegalia said: Hello Mustafa, Courage. Erell is right. Vega. My dear friends, Thanks for your kind supportive words and actually I remember your words when I feel despair, they become like ignitors for me to have some energy. I know that the way I think in, is due to withdrawals. Some times iam disappointed from this flipped process and that I have no choice instead of feeling and living every moment, sometimes I say: what if I sleep for months and wake up to find my brain is fixed ; I know it is silly but I hate my suffer and hate the depersonalization to be my suffer. Iam still aware and still want to stay alive and didn't lose my hope or become crazy, I hope we are all there soon ❤️ Mustafa. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Giulietta Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 5:12 PM, mustafa said: I know that the way I think in, is due to withdrawals On 1/27/2020 at 5:12 PM, mustafa said: didn't lose my hope or become crazy, I hope we are all there soon Hello Mustafa, As @Erell said, courage is key and putting ourselves first are things we must do. Don't you find it amazing how our feelings go up and down in the short period of an afternoon (or less!). One thing I try to remember to tell myself is that the unhappiness, the anxiety, etc. will pass. And it does. I know it will/may come back and eventually more happy feelings. Keep having positive expectations - not merely hope - but expectations and are getting better now. 😎.... Link to comment
Armorall Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 My healing thoughts are with you @mustafa 3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg 3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg 7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone 7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg 7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects 8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg 8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever Currently taking vitamin C, D, E, a probiotic and fish oil. Message me here if you want: https://www.facebook.com/morra.lal.3/ I've been getting a lot of fake friend requests, so please send a message before friend requesting me, thank you! Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @Guilietta, @Armorall, @rola, @Erell , @Vegalia @Altostrata Thanks for all of u my dear friends for your kind supportive words. Really I don't know what is going to happen; since a week ago and to now, I have very high depression and depersonalization, sometimes I feel very very terrified and other times I feel that even writing about my problem on SA is of no benefit ( this is due to depression) and there my depersdion starts to raise . Iam very afraid from the same idea, iam losing of self, losing me. During ally suffer, I was feeling that I wasn't created at all and nothing is required from me in this life and now I wonder and ask myself which I don't know it until now, what will happen, what will happen to break this feeling for me and if something happened like ( ohhhh, what happened to u Mustafa and I wake up), will this be easy or will be with huge depression and terror from this itself. Iam sorry for my negative words and hope all of us recover soon ❤️❤️ i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Armorall Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Mustafa- you are one of the most optimistic people I've met on here and for good reason. Remember the saying that when we are in a wave, we feel like we've always been in one, and that's not true. Go back over your thread and see how many victories you've had. You said you felt 85% healed! You've gained ground. Just remember the wave will pass! Then you will go back to your good baseline. Think of that. 3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg 3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg 7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone 7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg 7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects 8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg 8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever Currently taking vitamin C, D, E, a probiotic and fish oil. Message me here if you want: https://www.facebook.com/morra.lal.3/ I've been getting a lot of fake friend requests, so please send a message before friend requesting me, thank you! Link to comment
Giulietta Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 13 hours ago, mustafa said: Iam sorry for my negative words and hope all of us recover soon Dear Mustafa, I will send you a PM. We all have a lot of consecutive (one day after another) days of despair, depersonalization and the rest of this misery. You are in a wave and it's going to pass. I looked at this again yesterday since I needed a reminder about how this works... guilietta Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 Hello all my friends, I hope you are all ok and scored alot of improvent . Good news for me ( but I never forget the idea of what after nerves fixing) I measure my improvement by how much my head is pressed and tensed. During all thus pressure feelings, I had vision problems and what is new that I feel this pressure at the front of my eyes, now and only now, I feel a pressure in my eye nerves which means iam close to nervous recover; I only know that this simple thing may need at least 2 months to happen but what makes me still bothered is that iam still frozen, feelings from time to time but it is still as if iam not aware that iam in withdrawals, my whole suffer was that my brain is behaving as if there is no suffer at all and my brain is not nervous because what iam in; my whole suffer was that despite iam disabled and can't do any activity, there is no response from my brain like iam frozen. May be this must be the situation until all my nerves are fixed but the terrifying question, what after my nerves be fixed, I will respond, how this respond will be?, This is my big fear, iam still afraid and await for an horror episode because this is the logical thing to happen. Any recommendations please @Gridley∆ @Altostrata, I would appreciate your advice❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 4:02 PM, Guilietta said: Dear Mustafa, I will send you a PM. We all have a lot of consecutive (one day after another) days of despair, depersonalization and the rest of this misery. You are in a wave and it's going to pass. I looked at this again yesterday since I needed a reminder about how this works... guilietta Hi guilietta, Thank u for supporting me, I usually watch this video to also remind myself that what happens to me is logical in WDs, and it usually gave me hope and made me quiet. Iam very sorry I don't pass by your thread; excuse me old, I only find difficulty in giving advices these days because I feel lost, I hope I get better to be able to connect effectively with u and all my friends. Take care of yourself please❤️ i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 7:12 AM, Armorall said: Mustafa- you are one of the most optimistic people I've met on here and for good reason. Remember the saying that when we are in a wave, we feel like we've always been in one, and that's not true. Go back over your thread and see how many victories you've had. You said you felt 85% healed! You've gained ground. Just remember the wave will pass! Then you will go back to your good baseline. Think of that. Thank u armorall for your support to me, I think your support always remove alot of my stress. How are u !? i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 11, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 11, 2020 Looks like you're improving, mustafa. If you're feeling better, why are you making yourself worry over something no one can answer? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted February 11, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 hours ago, mustafa said: because this is the logical thing to happen. It is not necessarily the logical thing to happen. There is no logic in withdrawal, at least that we are aware of. Symptoms are going to come and go. That is the natural pattern of recovery. You're doing better, Mustafa. No need to worry. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 @Altostrata and @Gridley, Many thanks to you my dears ❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Vegalia Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hi @mustafa Keep hope. I know it is difficult, too long... you are drugs free, that is wonderful. Isn't it? I hope the best for you and always improvement. Vega. 2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2 28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg 15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg 25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hello @Gridley and @Altostrata, These days, I only became sleeping for just very few anxious hours and I wake up very tired and along the day, I feel low energy , I think my blood pressure becomes low but I didn't measure it . After 2 months, it will be Ramadan which is a month that we are fasting in and I have to stay without food from 4 am to 6 pm and I can't bear this just because iam of very low energy and this affects my blood pressure and makes it low . What should I have for the pressure problems, once before I was prescribed midodrine for this purpose and I plan to consult him again. Iam not able to take vitamins now because iam still sensitive, and I ordered melatonin today to be able to sleep to have some rest. Do u recommend anything !! i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted February 13, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, mustafa said: I ordered melatonin today We recommend starting with a very low dose, perhaps 0.25mg. Too much melatonin can have a paradoxical effect and keep you awake. I took 3mg once and it made me activated and kept me awake. I recently cut my dose from 0.5mg in half, to 0.25 and am sleeping better. Low doses of melatonin sometimes aren't available, and you may have to use a pill cutter. It's easier to reduce a tablet rather than a capsule. Melatonin for sleep Any determination about blood pressure medications would need to be between you and your doctor. The following link is about non-drug methods for reducing blood pressure, Non-drug treatments for high blood pressure - Symptoms and ... Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/12/2020 at 2:21 PM, Vegalia said: Hi @mustafa Keep hope. I know it is difficult, too long... you are drugs free, that is wonderful. Isn't it? I hope the best for you and always improvement. Vega. Thank u my dear for your words. The duration is a very bad thing, I am think this long period suffering can it self be tiring but no escape. I hope you are ok too Take care of yourself . 1 i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 14, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 hours ago, mustafa said: After 2 months, it will be Ramadan which is a month that we are fasting in and I have to stay without food from 4 am to 6 pm and I can't bear this just because iam of very low energy and this affects my blood pressure and makes it low . mustafa, doesn't your religion have a compassionate exemption from fasting for health reasons? If fasting makes you sick, perhaps you shouldn't do it. I wouldn't add drugs to compensate for low blood sugar from fasting. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: compassionate exemption from fasting for health reasons? Yes altostrata, there is . It is just u don't want to not fast because I feel sad but my religion gives me a permission to not fast if iam tired . I just want to live the atmosphere because it is the most fantastic month for me and full of joy, I only don't want to feel not fasting . Do you recommend not having drug if iam sick, and I shouldn't fast if iam extremely tired? i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 @Gridley, @Altostrata if I update my description of my withdrawals, it would be : i have a very bad depersonalization and the neurosmitters that are responsible of feeling and awareness and feeling the( Mustafa) were totally not working and are being repaired. I know that these neuros would take a number of months, 13, 14 or more; during all this period I feel Iam sleeping, not in the world at all and at the moment that the last neurosmitter is fixef, I will feel like I woke up from this sleeping, I know that this is what will happen because I felt it once during the WDs but not all the neuros were fixed . the moment iam mostly afraid of is just after my last neuro is fixed, this moment terrifies me and believe me, right now, I can't stand against these feelings or do anything towards them. i know you can do nothing for me my dears but I only need to write this down. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hi @Gridley, Would u pls recommend a solution or a drug for stomach issues. At night, I have problems with my stomach which hinders me sleep. Thank u ❤️ i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted February 23, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, mustafa said: Would u pls recommend a solution or a drug for stomach issues. Mustafa, I'm afraid that is really beyond what we know anything about. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted February 23, 2020 Mentor Share Posted February 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, mustafa said: Hi @Gridley, Would u pls recommend a solution or a drug for stomach issues. At night, I have problems with my stomach which hinders me sleep. Thank u ❤️ Nutrition changes worked for me. Have you tried a lectin free diet? I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said: Nutrition changes worked for me. Have you tried a lectin free diet? Hi Coco, I want to thank you for focusing on nuitrition change, this is a real great help for reducing symptomts but still a trouble that all the foods I can't get and as u advised me, Iam fasting at night but from 8 not 6, have pistachios and walnuts in the morning but I can't stop some foods because I should feel satiety; whenever it is possible, I eat carrots to feel full but I can't be on the diet all the time.. One technique I try to fall asleep is staying away from any hinder of melatonin secretion, I close the lights and my mobile phone and stay in darkness and I succeeded all the time. Iam persuaded up on experiences that nuitrition helps alot and as u remind me, I will get alot of carrots again to makes me feel full and not hungery. Thank u Coco so much. How are u feeling my dear !! i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Gridley said: Mustafa, I'm afraid that is really beyond what we know anything about. Thank u my friend, I know there is no known solution for this problem, I was only asking about a drug for calming my colon activity a bit down. But I think there isn't, I will try to apply the techniques I learnt on SA to be calm and fall asleep. Hugs i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted February 23, 2020 Mentor Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 hours ago, mustafa said: Hi Coco, I want to thank you for focusing on nuitrition change, this is a real great help for reducing symptomts but still a trouble that all the foods I can't get and as u advised me, Iam fasting at night but from 8 not 6, have pistachios and walnuts in the morning but I can't stop some foods because I should feel satiety; whenever it is possible, I eat carrots to feel full but I can't be on the diet all the time.. One technique I try to fall asleep is staying away from any hinder of melatonin secretion, I close the lights and my mobile phone and stay in darkness and I succeeded all the time. Iam persuaded up on experiences that nuitrition helps alot and as u remind me, I will get alot of carrots again to makes me feel full and not hungery. Thank u Coco so much. How are u feeling my dear !! You are welcome! That is great that you see improvements. That is smart with the phone. I put my phone on night shift and it reduces the blue light which helps, but eliminating it altogether is better! I am feeling good. I have had my nutrition at about 99% compliant and I ate crappy yesterday and feel it today. K have completely eliminated liquor until I feel way better. I will get through this! Thank you for asking! Everyday that passes is another day closer to being healed ! I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 24, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 24, 2020 mustafa, please don't worry about your neurotransmitters, what's going on is a lot more complicated. Is your stomach hurting from fasting? If so, you should stop fasting. Please look in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum for discussions of stomach problems. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
mustafa Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: mustafa, please don't worry about your neurotransmitters, what's going on is a lot more complicated. Is your stomach hurting from fasting? If so, you should stop fasting. Please look in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum for discussions of stomach problems. Hi altostrata, My stomach hurts as I think because of WDs, when I eat anything that known to worsen the symptoms, contains sugar or foods that I feel heavy to my stomach, I feel huge stress, problems in swallowing and throat and there, I stop all the food and stay calm as much as I can. I have no problem for short time fasting and I actually fast from 8 pm to 5am and sleep at 5 but I think I would have problem because fasting in Ramadan would be long and because of stress, I think I won't have much sleep and then j would feel low sugar in blood, I would consult a doctor for this problem because I want to fast and if there is no solution and I will harm myself, I will stop fasting sure. My stomach is hurting me like if to wake up nervous from bed and you had no enough sleep .. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
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