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On 7/24/2021 at 10:13 PM, Iman said:

@Estman

 

Hey there Estman

 

I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing symptoms. For my case, bloating, nausea and rapid heart beats are usually typical symptoms of WD and begin to appear in about a week or two after I make a dose cut. They seem to be more intense and harsh during hot days of the year. The distinguishing factor between side effects and WD symptoms I believe is in finding out whether you have these symptoms during periods of stablization AKA windows so if a symptom has been constant and non-stop since the beginning of taking a certain drug and only seems to vary in intensity during windows and waves, then it is definitely a side effect of the drug rather than a WD symptom. On the other hand, if a symptom begins to creep up and is merely present during waves and tends to disappear and fade away once in windows, then it is definitely a WD symptom. I tend to be more cautious in my summer reductions and make sure not to exceed 6 or 7% reductions but still do stick to the regular monthly cut but as I said half the usual dosage cut I do in other seasons of the year. One thing I find useful is to notice how I do and feel during periods of stablization and detect WD symptoms during waves so that when they occur I keep reading the notes of how well I feel and do during stablization periods and merely treat my symptoms as a few temporary irregularities resulting from my brains adjustment to new changes which are soon to leave. Always repeat with urself that u are NOT your WD symptoms no matter how harsh they are. You're a lovely normal being, you want proof? Record urself on a camera on days in windows. This ur true self you will soon get ur hands on once the poison is out of you for good. Take good care of urself and trust me u'll be fine soon.🌹🌹💪💪👍👍

Hi ,

Can a drop in temperature make a wave worse?
About 6 days ago it was also rainy cold weather, the temperature for several days 10-11 degrees only.
Then the next day it was sunny, the air pressure rose slightly and there was the first warmer weather, about 15-17 degrees.
I then did physical work for half a day and after lunch I felt very bad fatigue and a fast pulse
I guess I was overworked
That was 13 days after the last reduction
There was a heavy wave, great anxiety and depression by night
I couldn't sleep at night
Now the last few days have suddenly become warm, 21 degrees
But the feeling continues to be very bad, with great anxiety, despair and severe depression
There were strong thoughts and fears yesterday
Today there are also headaches, nausea, constant restlessness.
Can a rise in temperature also cause symptoms?
I have often had a headache with low air pressure.
The mood is worse in rainy weather.
But now the air pressure has risen about 12 units higher than the day before yesterday, but the weather is very bad.
Yesterday I was more in the sun.
Did I read somewhere that sunshine should increase serotonin synthesis?
But still feeling the same.

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10 hours ago, Estman said:

Can a rise in temperature also cause symptoms?

I know that in withdrawal I have very literal tolerance for the heat. For some reason I am the opposite of most people and find rainy days make my mood better when I am suffering from wd symptoms. 

 

Not sure if it is the calming sound of rain or not, but I find sunny days make me feel more awful because I know I can't enjoy them like everyone around me is.

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Hey there Estman. Hope u're doing fine and are in good shape. Sudden weather changes do influence the severity of withdrawal in our sentisized nervous system. However, u've got to learn not be this much self-aware and keep ur OCD thoughts distracted deliberately by doing something even of the littlest interest to you. Just make sure not to submit to such worrying thoughts by compulsively practicing them. Withdrawal is running its natural course as it has to and will take as long as it takes for your brain to finally work this out. So, whether you worry or not, the process will run its course and in a constructive and positive way. So keep faith and stay the course and assist your brain in handling its important job of recovery. Remember, many symptoms you're going through are bedrocks of recovery and clear signs of improvement(construction work is being done so hearing loud and disturbing sounds is quite typical of this construction process.) Stay strong and take it as easy as you can. ⚘️🌷👍🙏

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On 6/6/2022 at 10:46 PM, Iman said:

@Estman

 

Hey there Estman. Hope u're doing fine and are in good shape. Sudden weather changes do influence the severity of withdrawal in our sentisized nervous system. However, u've got to learn not be this much self-aware and keep ur OCD thoughts distracted deliberately by doing something even of the littlest interest to you. Just make sure not to submit to such worrying thoughts by compulsively practicing them. Withdrawal is running its natural course as it has to and will take as long as it takes for your brain to finally work this out. So, whether you worry or not, the process will run its course and in a constructive and positive way. So keep faith and stay the course and assist your brain in handling its important job of recovery. Remember, many symptoms you're going through are bedrocks of recovery and clear signs of improvement(construction work is being done so hearing loud and disturbing sounds is quite typical of this construction process.) Stay strong and take it as easy as you can. ⚘️🌷👍🙏

Hey Iman,

Can magnetic storms cause headaches?
I had a hard wave 13 days ago
There was a lot of depression and anxiety
Then it was better again
The night before, there was an extreme eye-headache.
As if the eyes do not suffer from sunlight
The pulse also rises rapidly with a headache
He couldn't fall asleep either.
I took 1.5 tablets of ibuprofen in the evening but it didn't help
Then I took 1 more tablet of Metropolol
For some reason, I have a migraine-like headache
I don't know, however, the headache pills have little effect
Along with this there is also anxiety and nausea
Do you have that?
Will Metropolol help you then?
Yesterday's headaches were no more but there is a general increase in depression
I have 25 days since the last reduction.
Unfortunately, there is not much energy.
I'm on vacation for a few days, but I'm still tired.
Today it is cloudy and it has rained, the mood is worse.
The last wave started again after some physical work.
I can't work much physically.
I am currently getting about 10mg of Clomipramine a day
Hopefully the depression and fatigue will go away.
I'm worried that if I've ever given up completely, my health will return or my depression will persist
It is this medical theory that the disease will return.
Do you have any waves?
Do you also experience depression and anxiety?
I often have a fight-escape reaction all night
Such a main course often lasts for a week then subsides
After that, there is a period of fatigue and depression.
 

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On 6/6/2022 at 10:46 PM, Iman said:

@Estman

 

Hey there Estman. Hope u're doing fine and are in good shape. Sudden weather changes do influence the severity of withdrawal in our sentisized nervous system. However, u've got to learn not be this much self-aware and keep ur OCD thoughts distracted deliberately by doing something even of the littlest interest to you. Just make sure not to submit to such worrying thoughts by compulsively practicing them. Withdrawal is running its natural course as it has to and will take as long as it takes for your brain to finally work this out. So, whether you worry or not, the process will run its course and in a constructive and positive way. So keep faith and stay the course and assist your brain in handling its important job of recovery. Remember, many symptoms you're going through are bedrocks of recovery and clear signs of improvement(construction work is being done so hearing loud and disturbing sounds is quite typical of this construction process.) Stay strong and take it as easy as you can. ⚘️🌷👍🙏

 

Hi Iman,

We had a thunderstorm yesterday
I didn't work too hard or much
By evening, however, I was tired and exhausted
The pulse has been out of place for the last 24 hours, too.
Can a thunderstorm lighten a wave?
How has the thunder affected you?
Today, however, it is beautiful without digestion and a very disgusting feeling in the head
I took half of the Metropolis, but it didn't make me feel better

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On 7/7/2021 at 10:29 PM, Iman said:

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We had hot weather and high pressure here.
However, I feel very tired mentally
This should usually be the case with low pressure.
Can an increase in air pressure and fever also cause mental fatigue?

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On 5/17/2021 at 3:23 PM, Iman said:

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I have exactly the same problem. My CNS seems to go into a chaos during the transition from mild weather in spring to the hot weather and high tempreture in summer and the final days of spring. I get elevated BP at nights usually 140/9.5 which is quite unlike my physiology. I get extremely cold feet which is really bothersome and poor sleep at nights. My stomach gets terribly unsetteled with a lot of bloating, nausea, indigestion ane burps. I hope things get settled, not quite used to such annoying symptoms.

We now have 30 degrees warm for another day. Not used to this kind of heat here in the Nordic countries
Digestion is out of place, there was twice diarrhea yesterday.
Feeling unwell, including mild nausea.
There is no energy because the stomach is out of order
I'm mostly indoors, I hope to adjust

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On 5/14/2021 at 10:01 PM, tsranga said:

Anyone so sensitive to weather changes 2.5 years off?

 

It looks like I have narrowed down my triggers to drastic weather changes including humidity. The body appears to want to do the right thing, but it takes a while, and the bay area weather doesn't make it easy.

 

My  symptoms mainly occur during a change   -
1. Extremities and rest of the body at different temperatures
2. Warm to the touch but feeling cold, esp between my shoulder blades, and legs.
3. Gut motility goes haywire. High humidity/cold at night triggers burps, gas, multiple BMs, chills, mild hypertension (130/90), poor/no sleep.  Low humidity/dry heat in the afternoons cause reflux/heat, and hypotension (100/60) Lying down seems to get the gut moving. 
4. Stuffy sinuses/head pressure wax and wane. 
5. Pain in my hands and feet at night when cold, and muscle twitches and dry skin when hot.
6. Rapid thoughts, mood swings, anxiety, when gut isn't moving.
7. I have more trouble adapting indoors with the forced air, and I feel good outdoors.

The pattern appears to be pretty consistent and the transitions are a struggle (hot/cold, sleep/wake, exercise/rest)

I am following all of the usual protocols - hydration, salt, exercise to strengthen the core/help circulation. I also added a humidifier for the hot afternoons, but the nights are an issue, and the lack of motility during the day. Once the switch happens and the weather stays within the new range, the body seems to adapt.

 

I don't see any benefit to drugs given the variations. 

 

This looks like some sort of autonomic dysfunction..

 

Like, I'm very sensitive to the weather
It wasn't like that before.
I wonder if this sensitivity will decrease later when I recover?
I often do not understand whether my symptoms are caused by a change in the weather or a decrease in the dose of my antidepressant
For example, when the air pressure or temperature changes, there is often drowsiness, headaches and 'revus attacks'. At the same time, there are also vague days with a fast pulse.
The last 3 days have been very anxiety and now also extreme fatigue and weakness.
Sleep is very bad and I often wake up with an anxiety attack
Heart rate high for several days already at rest, 80-100 beats per minute
There was also a magnetic storm yesterday and the day before yesterday
The air pressure has been very high in the last few days, but the temperature has changed a lot in a few days.
It was +26 degrees and now it's 13 degrees.
What about magnetic storms and full moon times?

How does the weather affect your energy levels?
Can it also have an effect, have you noticed it yourself?
Yes, 7 days ago I reduced the antidepressant by 2.5%, but usually there are no such extreme symptoms right away.

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Yes. Weather is just one of the many triggers along with posture, and exposure to heat and cold. 

 

I find that most of my symptoms are related to blood volume/pressure and it's circulation. It appears that our nervous system takes a while to adapt to these triggers eg. going from hot to cold, standing to lying down/high pressure to low pressure/high humidity to low humidity and vice versa. 

 

This is defined as autonomic dysfunction/dysautonomia.  There are a couple of dysautonomia forums - one on Reddit, And the other is dinet.org. where you can find many who have similar symptoms. 

 

Only in our case, it is due to the drug that we take/stopped.

 

 

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I know that the weather causes issues for me.  I'm in the midwestern USA, and in summer we get a lot of unsettled weather, with various fronts colliding, and thunderstorms.  There is a high correlation for when we have unstable weather, and an uptick in my PAWS symptoms.  

 

Just this past week, I've felt especially poorly.  My husband informed me that we have had a major gravity wave over our area for the past week.  Here is a link to an article about gravity waves, aka undular bores.  

 

https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/gravity-wave-caught-on-satellite-imagery-over-central-plains

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