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Dearest Erell,

 

I am so, so sorry for your pain. I cannot imagine what you must be experiencing with your grandmother and your friend - in addition your WD. You can and will forgive yourself - even if not now. Your grandmother, mother and friend will understand.

 

However - as in any situation - you can and will forgive yourself even if you can't now. As @sunnysideup69 wisely and thougtfully said - you too are injured. I don't know if it was @Rosettaor @Rhiannon who told me - it is as if we suffered a stroke. Our brain is healing in much the safe way. We are in recovery from a brain injury.  Your Mum knows you are in a bad way. You can call. You might send a plant or flowrs ifyou your grandma would appreciate either.

 

YOu can also  call your friend now?

 

Maybe holding only positive thoughts/memories about your grandma now will help you through this.

 

Hugs

Giuilietta

 

18 minutes ago, Erell said:

This is so hard. I can't forgive myself.

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Exactly this @Guilietta,  @Erell, it is as if WE suffered from a stroke. And I don't mean to minimise how you feel at all, but perhaps your not being there will encourage others to come forward for you mama, and also for your friend. I'd imagine you as the kind of person who is always the first up to help. So, it's hard to feel like you can't do that, when you want to.

But you need to make yourself your priority, right now. In the future, no doubt, you will be first up to help again xxxxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Erell said:

Today is hard too :

- my mum is at the hospital with her mum : my grandmother is dying. And i'm not able To go out of my flat To drive one hour To support my mother.

- I have an important friend who had a car accident and is in a bad state in the hospital and I can't go see him. 

 

Can't stop crying. This is so hard. I can't forgive myself.

Why can't you forgive yourself, is it because you are weak, you aren't, you are very strong facing bad withdrawals without any guilt.  you aren't selfish despite suffer, erell and think about your grandmother. I don't think you should do this, I myself, proud to be your friend.

You may be hurt, I know this but you should know that no any one can be ok in all live actions, people around us can help while we are in pain and so do you when you be ok.

Imagine you are in another country and can't be with your mom, you will forgive yourself for sure. Consider it to be the situation♥️.

Take care of yourself and don't blame yourself for something it has no guilt doing it.

 

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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12 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I'd imagine you as the kind of person who is always the first up to help.

 

Well done! And others are the last to recogngize your situation and come to support or help you. I think this is one that may bind us all together - our similar personality types in that we want to prioritize our needs and feelings over others. Do you think this is t he case?

 

 

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Dear survivors, 

First I wanna apologize for my post : it is too late To edit it. But I realize that I imposed you drama, and nobody here need more triggers. I hope I didn't hurt anybody.

I got totally overwhelmed by these life events,  in a wave already hard. As nobody around me understand my incapicity To be away from my flat, or my High sensitivity, my lonelyness and distress lead me To write here without thinking how bad it could make others dear survivors Feel. 

 

Secondly, I wanna strongly thank you all : I don't have thé words To express you how comforting it is To read your sweet words. It is really surprising how much people you don't know in real life can become so great understanding friends in this journey! ❤

 

@sunnysideup69 : i'm really touched by your story with your brother. Hope he is doing ok ❤

Yes i'm injured, I understand that. Really hard To make those around me understand it as Well. And yes, really hard To not be able To do what I would do ordinary in such events.

 

@Guilietta : I don't know if i'm the kind who would be first up To help. All I know is what I would have done if I was able : I would have driven To give my mum a strong hug and then hold her hand all night. Then I would have driven To see my friend, and caress his hair until he falls asleep. 

I have To accept that I can't, and it is really hard work To do.

 

@mustafa : I don't know how you manage To always find the good words, thank you so much ❤

 

 

Dear fellows, we have To be so strong in this journey!

Take good care of yourselves ❤

 

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Erell

 

I am so sorry to read about your grandma.

You are going through a very rough patch and it would be good to have your loved ones around you if at all possible.

I remember feeling the need to help, but also looking for reasons not to because my tortured brain was being vindictive.

Your dad would like his little girl there I am sure.

Can you talk to him, explain you may cry a lot, but really need to be with family at this time.

If you can stay for a few days and feel safe and loved even at this terrible time, everyone will benefit.

As for getting there. If your dad is too busy, try a friend, a taxi, an Uber.

25 minutes ago, Erell said:

I don't know if i'm the kind who would be first up To help.

I think I have got to know you well enough to be sure @Guilietta is right.

28 minutes ago, Erell said:

First I wanna apologize for my post : it is too late To edit it. But I realize that I imposed you drama,

Don't apologise we all need reassurance at times such as these.

It may have effect on others but is also part of us learning to empathise again, something which we cannot do in the depths of W/D.

Take care of you and big hugs from a fake scotsman.🤗

 

Sass

 

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Hello  Erell,

 

29 minutes ago, Erell said:

I got totally overwhelmed by these life events,  in a wave already hard. As nobody around me understand my incapicity To be away from my flat, or my High sensitivity, my lonelyness

 

These traumatic events are completely overwhelming even if you are not in WD. You got hit with a 'double whammy' this week. I am sorry for your angst and grateful that I can be of some support.

 

34 minutes ago, Erell said:

I have To accept that I can't, and it is really hard work To do.

 

To know what we can do, what we cannot do - and the wisdom to know the difference is an ongoing learning experience for me and it sounds like you too (and many, many others). 

37 minutes ago, Erell said:

I would have driven To give my mum a strong hug and then hold her hand all night.

 

I think she knows this and yoru friend, too. This is the best thing I can think of. Even if you can't be there in person - you are there in spirit. I think you would have been one of the first to be there if not the first. You are a generous and loving person with a heart of gold.

 

Will write you later today, mon ami.

 

Hugs,

Giulietta

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Hi dear Sass,

 

Thank you for your hugs, they are really welcome ! ❤

 

Actually it is not driving that makes me anxious, but being away from my flat. I know it sounds silly but the idea of not being able To be quickly in my flat if I Feel the need terrifies me.

I don't even know if I want To be with my family : I Feel anxious around people, even my beloved family. I Feel more safe in my flat...😓

 

Well this is a rough time, I would like a Windows To think clearer ;)

But nobody has power on this.

 

Thank you for your support ❤

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Have you been ruminating about this situation for the last few days?

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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@Sassenach No, these 2 events happened today. 

Today I've been ruminating : Will I be able To go To funerals ? Will my family forgive me if I can't? ...

 

These ruminations lead me To ruminations about WD : what if I never see a Window Again? Will I be strong enough To go back To work ? Is a 3 weeks wave normal? Blahblah...

 

I meditated a bit and took a walk on thé seaside To try To change the Channel. 

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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6 minutes ago, Erell said:

Will I be able To go To funerals ? Will my family forgive me if I can't

Stay positive for your gran, it may change nothing but at least you tried.

Of course they will forgive you.

The strongest human bond is between parent and child even if we have differences from time to time.

9 minutes ago, Erell said:

what if I never see a Window Again

You will.

 

10 minutes ago, Erell said:

Is a 3 weeks wave normal?

It may not be normal but is W/D normal.

 

10 minutes ago, Erell said:

 

I meditated a bit and took a walk on thé seaside To try To change the Channel

That's my girl, fight back.

 

A few more for you🤗🤗🤗🤗

 

Sass

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Sass : thank you ❤ 🤗

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hello sweetheart, I am so sorry for everything you are going through right now. You are doing all the right things to take care of yourself, keep it up. My thoughts and my heart are with you.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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10 minutes ago, Rhiannon said:

Hello sweetheart, I am so sorry for everything you are going through right now. You are doing all the right things to take care of yourself, keep it up. My thoughts and my heart are with you.

 

You're an angel Rhi, thank you ❤

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Good morning.

 

Diary Thursday 7 Novembre/ day 44 on 10mg Paroxetine 

 

6am woke up with strong gut pain. Feeling that i'm going To faint. Anxiety lower than usual.

7am anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 5

7.30am: 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule 

Tinnitus. Felt disconnected and tired. 

10am anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4 

11.30am anxiety : 6 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 6

1.30pm anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 5

2pm Bad news. Crying.

2.30pm: went To the seaside, walk.

5pm anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 5. Deep sadness, but different from WD despair, know that this sadness is because of life events. 

7pm anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

Sadness.

8pm bedtime. 

All evening : anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 5. Sadness.

 

Lights off at 11pm, fall asleep around 11.30pm. Woke up this morning with thé alarm at 7.30am. Glad because I felt like if my cortisol Spike was lower this morning, felt less agitated.

 

Have a Nice day !

 

ps i'm sorry, I don't Feel like I can read others threads today, give support. I hope i'll soon be able To do it Again. In the mean time, know that you all have my support and my love  ❤

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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@Erell, don't worry about others here today, just concentrate on you. Sending big hugs xxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hello @Erell

 

I am sending positive thoughts, prayers and hugs your way. I am thinking of you and you are doing all the right things for yourself - and that is the best any of us can do. I like the expression ' what I can do to change the channel.' That is brilliant and supports all of us  - even thought you t hink you are not uplifting us. :)

 

23 hours ago, Sassenach said:

The strongest human bond is between parent and child even if we have differences from time to time.

 

It's easy to forget this when we have disagreements. 😕 It is so true.

 

Hugs to you and thoghts with you,

 

Giulietta

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@sunnysideup69 and @Guilietta : thank you, you are both so adorable ❤

 

Actually, the day haven't been as bad as I negatively  expected: a lot of sadness, but less WD despair. It is sadness related To life events, different from WD despair. 

 

My mum is an incredibly strong woman, I  just hope I Will soon be able To take care of her ❤

 

Big hugs

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Erell, you are an enigma!

 

Just read your diary for yesterday, I was really worried about what I would find.

I have been concerned about your anxiety levels recently as I had hoped  they would improve as Cortisol spikes eased.

Finally they give you a break.

My experience with the spikes was that once they begin to ease up they improved further fairly quickly.

There were a  couple of short lived relapses but a steady improvement.

I wish this for you to help you through this period of your life.

Despite all that is happening there is only one 6 on your diary.

All your friends are wishing you well, me too.🤗

 

Sass

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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@Sassenach : I don't understand why you say i'm an enigma, can you explain? I'm afraid i've done something wrong...

 

Thank you for your friendly wishes 🤗

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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Sorry Errel, you have done nothing wrong.

 

The original term meant, difficult to understand.

We now use it to mean something that does not react in the way we expect.

I meant you are having a hard time and was fearing how you would be feeling when I checked in.

Your diary showed an improvement which was not expected at present, but I am so happy for you😎

You deserve a break.

 

Sass

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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Sorry Sass, I may have overanalysed Again 🙃

 

Thank you for sharing your expérience about cortisol Spikes!

And for giving me permanent support! You are an amazing helper ❤ I don't know when i'll stabilize, but I know surely that it Will be a part thanks To you!

 

Take good care!

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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37 minutes ago, Erell said:

Sorry Sass, I may have overanalysed Again 🙃

 

Thank you for sharing your expérience about cortisol Spikes!

And for giving me permanent support! You are an amazing helper ❤ I don't know when i'll stabilize, but I know surely that it Will be a part thanks To you!

 

Take good care!

🙂  I don't think you overanalyzed, the word "enigma" is still used primarily to mean "mystery" or "difficult to understand" in American English, so that may be how it was translated to you. There are amusing differences between British English and American English. When my parents visited England they came back laughing about the things they misunderstood there or which sounded odd to them. Languages are living things, very fun but also sometimes a bit confusing!

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Hey @Erell, I'm glad you had less WD despair. And of course, totally natural to feel sadness at the events going on in your life at the moment. I think it's really good that you can *feel* ordinary feelings..... so often, the ADs cover those over. 

I had a really good cry last Saturday out of sadness, and it felt SO GOOD to get in touch with some genuine feeling again.

Wishing you a good day today. Big hugs from very chilly London.

xxxxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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@Rhiannon : you would be amazed by all  the  different colloquials and words you can find in French, depending on the  region ;)

 

@sunnysideup69 : yes it is Nice To Feel "normal " feelings instead of brutal WD émotions ;)

Hugs from a very chilly Brittany !

 

Diary Friday 8 Novembre/ day 45 on 10mg Paroxetine 

 

7.30am: woke up with the alarm, cortisol Spike lower, felt less agitated 😍

Took 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule. 

Internal tremors. 

9am anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 5.

It Will be the same all morning.

12.30 anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 4.

Afternoon went To the bookstore, managed To spend 15min in a shop To do some food shopping. Then went To the seaside To walk.

Symptoms stayed at 5. Quick Spike of anxiety at 6 on the seaside, mostly because of dizziness. 

Lot of aches in my body all Afternoon, like if I had do a lot of sport. But totally bearable.

7pm anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

8.30pm  bedtime.

9.30pm anxiety : 5 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 4. Aches and back pain, totally bearable. 

 

Lights off at 11pm, fall asleep around 11.30pm. Woke up this morning at 6.30am, anxious but the cortisol Spike still Feel lower 😍

 

 

---》 a wave a bit easier To surf Yesterday, only one Spike at 6. Life is shaking me right now, but i'm kind of proud To not plunge in despair (thank you méditation practice ;) ).

I Feel sadness, but it Feels like a "normal" feeling.

--》 one thing that I consider as a positive one is that I started To think about tappering. I know I won't taper any soon, probably not before a year.  But I was utterly unable To imagine tappering Again. Yesterday it Feels like I was able To project myself Again, and happy To imagine a life without this poison 😉

 

 

Still waiting for a beaaaaaaauuuutifull Window 🤗

 

Have a Nice day all ❤

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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Wow, this is great! So glad those cortisol spikes are lessening.

Am with you on the body aches, also had those yesterday.

It is a very good sign that you were able to imagine a point in the future when you will taper again. Do you do any visualisation? Eg where you spend just 5 mins imagining how you will feel in, say, a year, when you are stabilised; how situations will be? I actually haven't done that yet, but am gonna try it on my up days. Can't do it on the down ones.

Xxxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hello Erell,

 

It looks like you had a 'good' day yesterday and were able to bear some of the unpleasant WD better. :) I am really happy for you. You deserve it after the tumult of the past week. (we need an emoji to show someone up and down doing a happy dance!)  Noting that self-care techniques with management of your WD and difficulties in life (like your grand mother and friend) shows growth and self-awareness. We (or at least I) will borrow this from you. ;)

 

5 hours ago, Erell said:

I started To think about tappering.

5 hours ago, Erell said:

esterday it Feels like I was able To project myself Again, and happy To imagine a life without this pois

 

Envisioning a future without drugs - and having the courage to accept and know that  you will taper another drug in the future is a huge step forward. We will be here together to support each o ther as we get off these drugs. I will be here for you.

 

I hope your grandmother is doing OK.

 

@sunnysideup69 brilliantly suggested that you take 5 minutes to see yourself in a future life - living happily off these drugs. This positive thinking moves us forward bit by bit. 

 

Here's to another good day.

Hugs,

Guilietta 🤗

 

 

 

 

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@Erell @Guilietta, yes, I'm going to take my own advice and try to do the 5 mins thing. Haven't tried it yet. But I bet it would help xxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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@Rhiannon : you would be amazed by all  the  different colloquials and words you can find in French, depending on the  region ;)

 

@sunnysideup69 : yes it is Nice To Feel "normal " feelings instead of brutal WD émotions ;)

Hugs from a very chilly Brittany !

 

Diary Friday 8 Novembre/ day 45 on 10mg Paroxetine 

 

7.30am: woke up with the alarm, cortisol Spike lower, felt less agitated 😍

Took 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule. 

Internal tremors. 

9am anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 5.

It Will be the same all morning.

12.30 anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 4.

Afternoon went To the bookstore, managed To spend 15min in a shop To do some food shopping. Then went To the seaside To walk.

Symptoms stayed at 5. Quick Spike of anxiety at 6 on the seaside, mostly because of dizziness. 

Lot of aches in my body all Afternoon, like if I had do a lot of sport. But totally bearable.

7pm anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

8.30pm  bedtime.

9.30pm anxiety : 5 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 4. Aches and back pain, totally bearable. 

 

Lights off at 11pm, fall asleep around 11.30pm. Woke up this morning at 6.30am, anxious but the cortisol Spike still Feel lower 😍

 

 

---》 a wave a bit easier To surf Yesterday, only one Spike at 6. Life is shaking me right now, but i'm kind of proud To not plunge in despair (thank you méditation practice ;) ).

I Feel sadness, but it Feels like a "normal" feeling.

--》 one thing that I consider as a positive one is that I started To think about tappering. I know I won't taper any soon, probably not before a year.  But I was utterly unable To imagine tappering Again. Yesterday it Feels like I was able To project myself Again, and happy To imagine a life without this poison 😉

 

 

Still waiting for a beaaaaaaauuuutifull Window 🤗

 

Have a Nice day all ❤

 

Hi Erell

 

I'm sorry to read about your current situation; it's hard enough going through WD.  I'm glad to you're starting to pick up though and even feeling a bit proud of yourself!  Right there with you wishing for a window.    Trying to accept this wave as temporary.

 

I want to remind you, you are strong, kind and capable.  When l was feeling desperate, your kind words of support were  incredibly helpful, reminding me I'm not alone and that you care.

 

I've been reading but haven't commented sooner because it takes a while for me to find the courage. I overthink too and am battling intrusive thoughts. 

 

Wishing you peace

Love Missy x

MissyE

2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013  reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg

2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 

2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose).  No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks).

Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg.  Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold

Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam

Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine

1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid

2 puffs pulmicort inhaler.

This too shall pass.

 

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I'm going to take my own advice and try to do the 5 mins thing.

 

Good idea. I have a book that I document (when I am following my own advice 😉) worries (at the end), and gratitude and at the front. I will add the envisioning life in the future off cymbalta and more recovered. :)

 

Time to count beads.

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Hi Erell

 

You  sound so much calmer which is good to see.

I know you want a window but the underlying baseline improvement is actually much better in terms of ongoing recovery.

It means your brain is slowly sorting everything out and does not want to stop for a window.

Usual weekend, got to go.

Have a lovely evening.

 

Sass

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

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11 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hey @Erell, I'm glad you had less WD despair. And of course, totally natural to feel sadness at the events going on in your life at the moment. I think it's really good that you can *feel* ordinary feelings..... so often, the ADs cover those over. 

I had a really good cry last Saturday out of sadness, and it felt SO GOOD to get in touch with some genuine feeling again.

Wishing you a good day today. Big hugs from very chilly London.

xxxxx

 

I was unable to weep for so many years due to the ADs and withdrawal and feeling too unsafe to let myself go. Now whenever I find myself crying in therapy or at home I say "I'm crying, yay!" and I really feel that way.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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9 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Hi Erell

 

You  sound so much calmer which is good to see.

I know you want a window but the underlying baseline improvement is actually much better in terms of ongoing recovery.

It means your brain is slowly sorting everything out and does not want to stop for a window.

Usual weekend, got to go.

Have a lovely evening.

 

Sass

 

I agree with this 100%. I know that steady, gradually improving misery is not much fun, but I think it's a more stable milieu for our brain to do its healing work, than the big swings of windows and waves. This is more like gentle rocking waves and waves that are just soft improvements.  I am amazed you are already stabilizing so well since less than two months ago and I think this is very encouraging. Courage cherie, just continue walking through each day and doing the things that are good for you.

 

Also I think you may find that you are ready to begin a slow taper sooner than a full year from now, at the rate you are improving. I can't promise, of course, we shall have to wait and see, but you are really settling down fast.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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@sunnysideup69 : yes I do visualisation ;) not really about living without médication (I know I'll have To taper during years,  so it seems too far To project myself), but more about stabilisation ;)

I  do it mostly before falling asleep, To fall asleep with a smile and, perhaps, make sweet dreams 😉

 

@Guilietta : i'm sorry I didn't  answer your later, i'll try To do this evening 😘

 

@MissyE :please, don't be sorry 😚 we all do exactly what we can ;) in fact, I totally understand  : this week it is difficult for me To read or write on others threads. 

thank you for your sweet words ❤

 

@Sassenach :busyman😉😙 it is great To know that your weekends are busy!

 

As Sass said, I have To be grateful for this underlying improvment. 

My grandma left us this morning. And I really struggle To accept my limitations, not being able To be away from my flat. 

I'm obsessed by the idea of an incredible Window To be able To run To my family and hold my mum's hand.

But I have To accept : WD really is a brutal acceptance lesson. 

I try hard To be better at this !

 

 

Take good care of yourselves, thinking of all  dear survivors ❤

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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@Rhiannon : I missed your post !

Thank you for sharing your thoughts : I have trouble To not thinking there is a problèm because I don't see any Window since 3weeks.

You and Sass believe its better like this  :thank you for telling me, it helps me !!!

Thank you for your great support!  ❤

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I am sorry to hear about your gran.

Please ensure you do all the right things tonight to help you stay calm and sleep as well as can.

 

Sass🤗

Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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