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Sassenach
47 minutes ago, Erell said:

I've been (over)analysing  my agoraphobia a lot today...

Indeed you have🤣

You are looking for patterns where there are none, logic that does not apply toW/D and consistency where there is none.

I cannot think of anyone on this site who has not experienced Agoraphobia and antisocial feelings during W/D.

47 minutes ago, Erell said:

My fear  : that my brain is traumatised and formatted To agoraphobia, and that even when I stabilise, agoraphobia Will still be a struggle.

I have edited the above to read correctly, there is no "if".

 

47 minutes ago, Erell said:

I'm a bit obsessed by this..

My my, so unlike you👿

Remember anything you have achieved during W/D you will achieve again in time.

 

Have a good evening.

 

Sass

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Gridley

 

39 minutes ago, Erell said:

 

- i'm wondering if my actual agoraphobia is still WD or a new condition that I have To fight. Did my brain get used To be afraid of the outside or is my brain afraid of the outside because it is a WD symptom. 

 

Mustafa is right.  It is a WD symptom that will fade as you heal.

 

WD and healing are not a linear process.  It's going to be up and down with your symptoms, which explains why last week you could drive to your parents' and right now you can't.  It's up and down.

 

Before WD I was slightly agoraphobic but could travel and move to Ecuador and do everything.  Now in WD it has intensified and a simple trip down the mountain to my zero-stress village is difficult.

 

You will be the you that you used to be,  

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sunnysideup69
23 hours ago, Erell said:

 

Funny you talk about this because these past few days I was wondering if my agoraphobia was WD or not.

I think it definitely is as I only experienced it during my benzo WD, before now.

 

hugs my friend❤

 

It's definitely WD, as you say. I have experienced it recently around socialising, every time I have a meetup planned I kind of feel I can't leave the flat and that talking to someone will be too much. And I feel like I don't really want to do it and what's the point, kind of feelings.

 

Which is strange, as I manage to teach at school, no problem....but then, that's kind of acting, in a way.

 

WD definitely makes me want to crawl into a hole.

Thanks for holding my hand, am holding yours, too.....having made the decision about seeing my parents after Christmas, it has settled my mind. Have begun to feel calmer.

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Guilietta
1 minute ago, sunnysideup69 said:

WD definitely makes me want to crawl into a hole

😁 

Absolutely hilarious. Yes, indeedy.

 

Agoraphobia is a natural part of WD, dear @Erell. It is as you know rooted in fear. We don't feel safe. It is frightening to feel that we are only safe in our home. I would ask myself, what has become of me? Will I always be like this? I felt terrified.

 

That being said, these have greatly improved. There are still a lot of places I am not comfortable going. I don't want to go out by myself at night. I often won't go out at night unless it is very nearby.

 

20 minutes ago, Gridley said:

Before WD I was slightly agoraphobic but could travel and move to Ecuador and do everything.  Now in WD it has intensified and a simple trip down the mountain to my zero-stress village is difficult.

 

Gridley, you were so brave to do this. @Rosetta to move to Spain was too. I used to travel alone to Europe. I want to go again and darn it even though I would like to go with a group (it's more fun) and I don't want my fears to keep me from going.

 

You will gradually get better. You will have days when you feel strong and can go out. Then the day comes for your trip - and you find excuses not to go out! ;)  I do same and @sunnysideup69 too if I remember correctly. I want tno stay in and watch TV and crawl in a hole. Which isn't a bad thing. ;)  It is what I need now to feel happy.

 

Are you traveling for Christmas - did you and @sunnysideup69 decide?

 

 

 

 

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@Guilietta, I'm avoiding Christmas travel as the trains to the South West are all messed up and it's a two hour journey. I'm gonna avoid it and go see my parents on first weekend of new year. I'm catsitting over this Christmas break :)

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Rhiannon
On 12/6/2019 at 10:51 AM, mustafa said:

Dear rhiannon, 

Do you have any information about any researches done to help us heal faster?

I hope the psychiatrists who agree with us about WDs can research that case.

No, not any formal research specifically on what these drugs do to us. I have read about the alternating-sides in some other context, I think it was for working with other kinds of brain injury, maybe strokes. I also use alternating-sides work using something called EMDR in my therapy for dealing with trauma. So I think, why not, if it seems to help with healing in other brain-related ways, and it's harmless, and gentle exercise is good for us, it's worth trying.

 

As for trying things that feel big or hard from time to time, that is also speculation based on how we learn. The expression is "neurons that fire together, wire together."  It is only speculation on my part, but it fits with my experience. I think agoraphobia is there for a reason, our nervous systems want peace and quiet and safety for healing. However I also think it is a good idea to once in a while push ourselves just a little, to keep our brains from getting set in those paths that feel safe. I absolutely could be wrong about that. It's just what seems to work for me. 

 

It would be great to hear what other people think about this and what has worked for them, as far as whether they feel like pushing back against the agoraphobia once in a while has been helpful, or not.

 

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MissyE

Stay strong Errell.  I know how you are feeling.  Remember it is WD, not you.

🤗 Missy 

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Erell

Good morning!

 

@Sassenach : Thank you ! You made me smile ! You made fun of me and my fears...and it actually felt good !

I'm often, if not always, not able To laugh at my situation, so it is Nice of you To do it for me 😙 Big hugs from an overanalyser 🤗

 

@Gridley : thank you for the réassurance on the fact that agoraphobia is a WD symptom and that it Will fade ❤ 

 

@Guilietta, @sunnysideup69, @MissyE  : thank you for being there and holding my hand when needed  ❤ Be sure i'm holding yours too. 

 

@Rhiannon : I agree with you: there is an equilibrium To find between take care of ourselves staying in safe place and pushing

Not easy To find the balance. I force myself To go outside almost everyday and try To not Feel guilty when it is too hard.

 

Big hugs To all ❤

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Erell

Diary Sunday 8 December/ day 75 on 10mg Paroxetine 

 

7am: woke up anxious, still lower.

7.30am: 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule 

9.30am: anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 4

Went To walk but anxiety ramped up outside. 

12 750mg Evening primrose oil. 

12.30 : anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5.

Despair  : 0 ??? . Dancing,  smiling!

2.30pm: anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

4pm : come back To my flat after a 45 minutes walk outside. 

6pm : anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

8pm : bedtime. Anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair  : 3-4.

 

Lights off at 10.20pm, Fall asleep around 11pm. Sweet night. 

 

Woke up anxious this morning at 7am. This morning anxiety Feels higher, and have dizziness. 

 

--》 I lived a wonderful 30 minutes at noon, just after the 750mg of evening primrose oil. Was feeling anxious, but great mood! Put music on, dancing and smiling : it Felt like my old self in terms of mood ( always loved To dance in my living room 😊).

Can't tell if it is evening primrose oil, a placebo effect, or just good mood.

Positive sign : since 3 months, i'm not really able To listen To music, i'm very sensible To noises and noises can easily ramp up my anxiety. But Yesterday anxiety stayed the same despite music ❤

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sunnysideup69

@Erell, wowee, I love the sound of that good mood! Wishing you so many more moments of that! Lots of love xxx

 

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mustafa

If you like to dance, i can send you a loud, but wonderful music😂, it is an egyption type of arts called ' مهرجانات', it can be translated as festivals but not an exact translation.

Good to hear you had wonderful minutes❤️

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Sunnyday

So good to hear @Erell ! 

 

Regarding the agoraphobia, you've gotten so many good responses already but I wouldn't worry about it sticking around when the WD is over. I understand the concern, I think most here have concerns regarding if different symptoms will stick or become permanent, but it seems like most times it goes away when we're healed. I was very concerned about my neuro emotions, overanalysing everything people said to me, mostly seeing ill intent in people and getting very easily upset when that's not who I am as a person. It felt like it had become such a strong part of me and I was worried it wouldn't go away ever. People on SA told me I would go back to my old self eventually and I believe they were right. I'm not 100% there yet but it has improved so much since back then, so I don't doubt anymore that eventually I will be my old self completely. It just takes time.

 

@Rhiannon I agree with you and Erell on this one. I think it's always healthy to push ourselves outside of our comfort zone, though I think it's good to be a bit more forgiving and careful during WD from my own experience. Overdoing things seem to cause exhaustion sometimes and make things temporarily worse, so as has been said it's all about keeping a balance I think.

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Sassenach

Evening Erell

 

7 hours ago, Erell said:

despair  : 3-4.

Almost three!

How has today been?

When did your period end?

7 hours ago, Erell said:

Put music on, dancing and smiling : it Felt like my old self in terms of mood ( always loved To dance in my living room 😊).

Can't tell if it is evening primrose oil, a placebo effect, or just good mood.

I would have paid to see that:rolleyes:

Does not matter if it is Placebo effect if it helps.

 

Sass

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@mustafa : thank you for the music you sent me 😊 didn't dance today but Will tell you when 😉

@Sunnyday i'm so grateful for you sharing your expérience with me! Thank you so much! ❤

 

@Sassenach : good evening!

Well,  morning started with a High cortisol Spike so I thought a deeper wave was starting. But anxiety and restlessness then lowered To my usual 4/5 and i've been in a good mood all day! Had some dizziness but nothing extreme. 

As you said, even if it is placebo,  evening primrose oil seems To help 😊

My periods end between Saturday and Sunday. So obviously I have To remember that my cycles Will be harder during WD and try To not let me fall in despair next time (hard To believe it is the same person who was so desperate one week ago! WD really is a strong beast.).

 

How are you doing dear Sass?

 

 

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Sassenach
1 minute ago, Erell said:

try To not let me fall in despair next time

We know now so we will remind you😁

I assume you will have checked around for any tips to help!

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Just now, Sassenach said:

I assume you will have checked around for any tips to help!

Sass can you explain? I understand the words but I don't understand the meaning of the all sentence.

(Of course no problem if you don't have the time, nothing important ;) )

 

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Sassenach

Have you checked this site and others to find if anyone has tips to help with hormonal issues in W/D?

 

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Erell
On 12/2/2019 at 12:40 PM, Erell said:

Hello Again 

 

So, i've been reading a lot on SA :

 

- having troubles with menstrual cycles during WD is very common. And everything is possible ! Some women suffer more during ovulation, others during PMS. Women has the same pattern every cycle, others notice that it is very different from a month To another. ...

 

- some says that they have every symptôms (acne, pelvic area cramps, mood swing...) but don't have their periods everytime. So it is possible that even if I had all signs last week I may not have my periods this time.

 

- as GiaK says in a topic : she doesnt "recommend people in active WD mess with hormones at all" , so it seems that there is not much To do about it.

 

- however, one supplement in particular seems To be interesting : i've read some women taking evening primrose oil and having good effects on their mood during PMS. 

Others tried and didn't notice any effect. 

I haven't found testimonies on evening primrose oil having worsening effect.

So i'm considering To give it a try at low dose. I have To think about it, i'm always worried about making things worse.

 

Here is for my researches ;)

 

Thank you Again To all of you for your support! ❤

 

 

Being a woman and in WD...what a mess! ;)

 

Yes I have read a lot on SA, and no surprise : a lot of women struggle with hormonal changes during WD (main symptoms : rage/anger and deep despair).

 

Again, no surprise, there are no specific tips : except acceptance, there is not much To do ;)

 

Good news is that women says that, as other symptoms, as they heal their cycles become more normal. 

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Sassenach
3 minutes ago, Erell said:

ood news is that women says that, as other symptoms, as they heal their cycles become more normal. 

If you become "normal", not sure how I will cope with you😲

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Guilietta
23 hours ago, Rhiannon said:

I think it was for working with other kinds of brain injury, maybe strokes.

 

There is a book about an MD who taught his father to heal from a stroke - which he was toldl he would never recover from. I can't recall titleor author. If I recall, he taught his father the skills from the ground up - similar to how a child develops skills.

 

Things that are said to be good for developing the brain/enhancing our cognitive abilitie may be worth looking into - for example - learning a musical instrument if you have any access to one or itnerest - even listening - to classicalmusic. Another thing is learning a foreign language (which you are in the process of and doing a fine job. :) )

 

23 hours ago, Rhiannon said:

As for trying things that feel big or hard from time to time

 

Challenging ourselves and moving from our comfort zones is how we grow - between developing connections in our brain (for one example) and conditioning us emotionally that we can do a thing - building confidence in ourselves and abilities. That being said, depending on where we are in recovery and whether in a window or wave - might govern how much we try things outside our comfort zones.

 

23 hours ago, Rhiannon said:

It would be great to hear what other people think about this and what has worked for them, as far as whether they feel like pushing back against the agoraphobia once in a while has been helpful, or not.

 

 

Really good question. 

One thing I have observed andn I have noticed in @Erell ' s posts - is that some days I feel fine / OK or want  to go out. I don't know why this is - maybe like other WD symptoms? They are sporadic?  Others I don't and so I stay in. It is not a fear that I would say  - but maybe subsconscious fear.  The day starts off with I'm going to go 'x' to be around other people and get out. This doesn' end up happening. I would rather stay home with the dogs.

 

What has worked for me? This is kind of long and rambling. Sorry @Erell about all this on your page.

  • Having a conversation with myself when I am anxious about going out.  I ask what I am afraid of. Why do I not feel safe. I repeatedly rationalize (even though I am still anxious) why I am doing something. 
  • Do I really want to go? I think the agoraphobia is an emotional reaction to the gut negative response - that I don't want to do something even though I should or it might be positive for me in the long run.
  • What helps is going early in the day. Our will power is strongest in the morning (so I exercise then or do more unappealing or stressful tasks then). I don't usually go out after 1 pm.  So even for an event at 3 pm I leave early and wait.
  • Make it fun by telling myself I am going tno enjoy listening nto music in the car.
  • Let others know I am having agoraphobic tendencies so when I feel like going out - I know I have to go someplace and get positive reinforcement.
  • Maybe once I get going I may be OK. I can turn around and can go home as I have control. I avoid public transport.
  • Know what triggers my fear and minimze the risk. Bring my meds, food, water. Ensure sure I am prepared. (have a paper map and the GPS and know where I am going and a phone number). I know where I am going to park.
  • I remind myself that I don't want to submit to the agoraphobia. I don't want to reinforce this. I try to muscle through it when I can.
  • Try to make a compromise - go to a local store (15 minutes away) instead of a mall 45 minutes away. Yesterday going out today seemed like a good idea. Today there are a lot of 'excuses' or 'reasons' not to go (the weather for one).
  • If it is too stressful I don't go out.

@Rhiannon whether they feel like pushing back against the agoraphobia once in a while has been helpful, or not.

Yes, I learn I can get out and be safe. Even if I didn't enjoy being out - it may be that I didn't like where I was, the people who were there, etc. - I feel good about myself AND glad to be home.

 

10 hours ago, Erell said:

I force myself To go outside almost everyday and try To not Feel guilty when it is too hard.

 

Me too. And relax when it feels too hard. Making it a stressful experience isn't always a good thing.

I just stop thinking/worry about it. I tell myself that I will go out tomorrow and relax about it. It is just 'I don't feel like going out.'

 

Hugs,

Giuilietta

 

 

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Guilietta

@Erell I am so glad to see you have much lower numbers! And that you feel like dancing. Have you heard the expression, 'Dance Like No One's Watching'? Well, I think it's funny even if one is a good dancer.

 

 

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Erell
14 hours ago, Sassenach said:

If you become "normal", not sure how I will cope with you😲

Don't worry, you'll handle this by dancing with me! 

 

 

 

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Erell

@Guilietta : thank you dear friend for sharing your view with Me! ❤

I have trouble focusing on an answer To this in English, i'll try later ;)

 

Diary Monday 9 December/ day 76 on 10mg Paroxetine 

 

7am woke up anxious (anxiety Feels higher than previous days)

7.30am: 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule 

9am: anxiety: 5 / restlessness : 5 / despair: 4.

11am back To flat after a 20 minutes walk. Dizziness.

Anxiety: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

12 750mg Evening primrose oil. 

1pm : anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 3.

Then forced myself  To do some foodshop.

4pm anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3. (😍)

Went To a 30minutes walk.

6pm : anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3.

8pm : bedtime. Despair : 0 ??? ( have some doubts with intrusive thoughts but no sadness at all)!.

Anxiéty: 4 / restlessness: 4.

 

Lights off at 10.15pm. Fall asleep around 11pm. Woke up anxious this morning at 7am.

 

Wish you all a Nice day from a stormy windy Brittany ❤

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This diary looks good @Erell! So pleased for you xxx

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Erell
1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

This diary looks good @Erell! So pleased for you xxx

Yes it is !

I still Feel like there is a wall between me and my 'normal ' self, but I think this wall is getting thinner...hopefully it Will be as thin as a piece of paper one day ;)

 

Big hugs ❤

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Cocopuffz17
Just now, Erell said:

Yes it is !

I still Feel like there is a wall between me and my 'normal ' self, but I think this wall is getting thinner...hopefully it Will be as thin as a piece of paper one day ;)

 

Big hugs ❤

Great news! It will! Keep at it! So pumped for you!! 

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sunnysideup69
56 minutes ago, Erell said:

Yes it is !

I still Feel like there is a wall between me and my 'normal ' self, but I think this wall is getting thinner...hopefully it Will be as thin as a piece of paper one day ;)

 

Big hugs ❤

 

It will be! I know what you mean, some days, I almost feel there, because I don't think too much about symptoms all day. It's like there's that last little bit to push through. It's coming for you.....xxx

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@Cocopuffz17 and @sunnysideup69 : thank you ❤

 

Diary Tuesday 10 December/ day 77 on 10mg Paroxetine 

 

7am: woke up anxious 

7.30am: 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule 

9am anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 4 

11am : back To flat after walk in town.

Some dizziness. 

anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

12.20 : 1000mg Evening primrose oil 

From 2pm To 3pm went To walk in town...then in a démonstration..! 

5pm : Feel tense. Anxiéty: 5 / restlessness: 5 / despair: 4.

8pm bedtime. Anxiéty: 5 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3.

head in a vise. 

lots of intrusive thoughts, doubts.

10pm : anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3.

 

Lights off at 22.30pm, Fall asleep around 11pm. Sweet night. Woke up anxious this morning at 7am.

 

---》 Yesterday Afternoon I went in town To walk. But, I had forgotten that it was a day of démonstrations in France...When I crossed the road of the protesters I thought : "well, that is a good exercice for my agoraphobia " and I joined the démonstration (not my best idea, I know...😏).

Well, between all the people, the noise, the shouting, the smoke projectiles and the firecrackers...I ended up in a very anxious state and just ran To my flat!

No need To say I then spent a quite tense Afternoon! Fortunately I went gradually back To my WD  normal from 5pm.

Obviously, too early days for the revolution 😅

 

Well, I'm gonna spend a way more quiet Afternoon today ;)

 

Big hugs To all ❤

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Guilietta
2 hours ago, Erell said:

When I crossed the road of the protesters I thought : "well, that is a good exercice for my agoraphobia " and I joined the démonstration (not my best idea, I know...😏).

Well, between all the people, the noise, the shouting, the smoke projectiles and the firecrackers...I ended up in a very anxious state and just ran To my flat!

 

Good for you! You learned you can get out amongst strangers in a noisy placle and be safe ! It is a step towards healing, sweetie. I hope you feel great about yourself - this is an achievement.  

 

You are less anxious too I see - a nice well deserved window.

 

Thank you for your cheery support, too. I really appreciate it. You are a dear.

 

Hugs

Giulietta

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Erell
18 hours ago, Guilietta said:

 

Good for you! You learned you can get out amongst strangers in a noisy placle and be safe ! It is a step towards healing, sweetie. I hope you feel great about yourself - 

 

Well actually it was quite awful, too much triggers in one time ;)

 

Diary Wednesday 11 December/ day 78 on 10mg Paroxetine = 11 weeks. 

 

7am woke up anxious, but really lower.

7.30am: 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule 

9am : anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3. Less agoraphobia. 

From 9.30am To 12.30 : went To work. Went Well despite anxiety.

quick Spikes of anxiéty at 5 / 6.

1pm 1000mg evening primrose oil. 

All Afternoon: anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3.

All evening: anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4.

 

Lights off at 10.30pm, fall asleep around 11pm. Woke up anxious this morning at 7am.

 

---》 I didn't mention despair on thé evening log : I was feeling blah,  but it Felt like a "normal blah ". When I mention despair as a symptom it means : intrusive thoughts,  strong feelings i'll never Feel good, strong depressed feelings.

Yesterday evening I was not happy, but it Felt normal, not WD. 

It doesnt mean I felt joy, but it looks like a very good sign To just Feel so-so like a "normal " person could Feel !  😉

 

---》 me and my boss agreed on the fact that I can go at work whenever I want. I can't do much as I'm prescribed off, but it is a way for me To socialize Again.

 

Well Yesterday was a very décent day! Let's hope it Will go on 😍

 

 

Big hugs To all ❤

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contente pour toi erell ,la prochaine étape c 'est le coiffeur 😘

happy for you erell ,the next step is the hairdresser 😘

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Woohoo! The decent days will continue and soon turn into good days, followed by great days! 

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mustafa
3 hours ago, Erell said:

It doesnt mean I felt joy, but it looks like a very good sign To just Feel so-so like a "normal " person could Feel !  😉

This is very good and i can judge you mean exactly what you wrote, i think this normal and confident feeling is better than to feel joy, right?

It is good you agreed with your boss

Have a nice day ❤️.

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7 hours ago, Erell said:

 

Well actually it was quite awful, too much triggers in one time ;)

 

Diary Wednesday 11 December/ day 78 on 10mg Paroxetine = 11 weeks. 

 

7am woke up anxious, but really lower.

7.30am: 10mg Paroxetine + 1 fish oil capsule 

9am : anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3. Less agoraphobia. 

From 9.30am To 12.30 : went To work. Went Well despite anxiety.

quick Spikes of anxiéty at 5 / 6.

1pm 1000mg evening primrose oil. 

All Afternoon: anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4 / despair: 3.

All evening: anxiety: 4 / restlessness: 4.

 

Lights off at 10.30pm, fall asleep around 11pm. Woke up anxious this morning at 7am.

 

---》 I didn't mention despair on thé evening log : I was feeling blah,  but it Felt like a "normal blah ". When I mention despair as a symptom it means : intrusive thoughts,  strong feelings i'll never Feel good, strong depressed feelings.

Yesterday evening I was not happy, but it Felt normal, not WD. 

It doesnt mean I felt joy, but it looks like a very good sign To just Feel so-so like a "normal " person could Feel !  😉

 

---》 me and my boss agreed on the fact that I can go at work whenever I want. I can't do much as I'm prescribed off, but it is a way for me To socialize Again.

 

Well Yesterday was a very décent day! Let's hope it Will go on 😍

 

 

Big hugs To all ❤

 

Bonjour Erell, 

 

Comment expliques tu le fait que malgré ton sevrage extrêmement progressif de la paroxétine, les choses se soient mal passées ? Sur ce forum il est généralement conseillé de diminuer la dose de 10% tous les 30 jours et il semblerait que tu aies plus que suivi cette directive. C’est la raison pour laquelle je m’inquiète.

 

Bon rétablissement à toi en revanche

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Sassenach

Hi Erell

 

Thanks for post to Phoenix, just right so saved me time.

Don't want to jinx you so just really happy for you, faith repaid.

Glad to see you posting and helping others.

As for work, I told you people are mostly nice, just do not like what we do not understand.

As they see you improving you can educate them.

 

Happy for you

 

Sass

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Erell

@mustafa : well joy would be great To Feel, but yes feeling close To "normality" is wonderful ❤ 

 

@Subzero42 : je n'ai pas d'explications concernant mon crash au mois d'août malgré le fait que je ne fasse des baisses que de 3% tous les 15jours.

Je sais seulement que j'aurais dû laisser passer la vague de symptômes et ne pas toucher à mes doses ni prendre plein de compléments. 

Mon cerveau était certainement arrivé à un stade où il avait pas mal de réparation à faire pour retrouver une homéostasie, et au lieu de le laisser faire je l'ai déstabilisé encore plus.

La règle des 10% n'est pas une règle universelle : certains doivent aller beaucoup plus lentement, et ça semble être mon cas. Lorsque je reprendrai mon sevrage je pense faire 2 ou 3% de baisse mais tous les 1 ou 2 mois.

De plus, mon histoire semble assez commune: même en baissant lentement il peut y avoir des vagues de symptômes. C'est le système nerveux qui travaille pour s'adapter  :)

As-tu lu le topic sur le schéma des vagues et fenêtres?

Ne t'inquiète pas  : peu importe le temps que cela prendra, notre objectif est d'être libres, et nous atteignerons cet objectif :) Pendant 1 an et demi, j'ai baissé sans que cela n'affecte ma vie quotidienne, donc c'est tout à fait possible :)

 

(I don't have an explanation about the fact that I crashed late August despite the fact that I was decreasing my dose at 3% every 15days.

Only thing I know now is that I should have let the wave of symptoms pass, and I shouldnt have touched at my dose and all the suppléments.

My brain probably reached a point where he had a lot of work To do To find homeostasy,  and instead of letting him do his job I déstabilised it further.

The 10% Rule is not an universal Rule: some have To go slower, and it seems it is my case. When i'll taper Again, I think I Will decrease by 2 or 3 % but every one or two months.

My story seems To be pretty common : even with a slow taper, waves of symptoms can happen. It is the CNS trying To adapt :)

have you read the topic about waves and Windows pattern?

don't worry: no matter how long it Will take, our goal is To be free, and we Will reach this goal :)

During one year and a half I tappered without effect on my daily life, so it is possible  :) )

 

 

@Sassenach : yes you mods seem To be really busy these days!

Thank you for stopping by here 😉

People don't know about WD at work ;)

I'm happy too,  thank you so much Sass, you helped me To make this possible! ❤

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