Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 6, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hi dear friends ❤ Well, I'm exhausted but i did it!!! Thank you all for your supportive words, it helped me To read your words ! It was not an easy day : first I struggled To fall asleep Yesterday evening, with some seconds of terror. And today I had some Spikes of anxiety, and strong intrusive thoughts saying "you Will Feel this chemical anxiety forever", "you won't be able To finish the week ", " you're gonna have strong bad waves soon" "because you went back To work and will be tired you Will have very bad waves"... I know this is all WD because I love my job and have very Nice colleagues, so it is not my job that stress me. So it won't be so easy To be back To work with this annoying chemical anxiety, but I really wanna do it so I'll keep on going I'm too tired now To be able To read you and To focus , but I Will try To read your threads this week ! Now my hope is that things keep on progressing and maybe even that this chemical anxiety disappear ! ❤ Big hugs To all! On 1/5/2020 at 5:57 PM, Sassenach said: We will miss you. I'm not going anywhere dear Sass, I have years of tappering ahead me, and a book To write 😉😙 1 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted January 6, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Erell said: Now my hope is that things keep on progressing and maybe even that this chemical anxiety disappear ! You have done the hardest, easier from now on. Gte some rest, no reply needed. Sass Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Yaaaaaaaay! Fantastic! No need for responses, just rest up. You are coping with the symptoms and not letting them stop you, that's great! Catch up with you later in the week, make sure you eat and rest and sleep xxx January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Vegalia Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Salut Erell Bravo ! Tu peux être fière. Toujours aussi courageuse forte et inspirante. Repose toi bien. Prends soin de toi avant toute chose. Gros bisous. Vega. Ps :pas besoin de répondre non plus. 2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2 28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg 15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg 25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg Link to comment
rola Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 salut erell super contente pour toi, tu vas y arriver tu verras repose toi bien tu l as bien mérité je t 'embrasse 😘 Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml 12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg 18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 18/06 2,66 mg 26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours 19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours 19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours 19/05 1,58 mg 24/07/19 1,44 mg 14/08/19 1,4 mg 27/09/19 1,48 mg 10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg 27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg Link to comment
Giulietta Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Coucou Erell Congratulations! You have started the new year with a big bang. No need to reply. So glad things went well and sending good thoughts and hugs to you. xxx Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Wow, way to go, Erell!!! I am impressed with your tremendous courage. Thank you for being an inspiration to me. HUG, Cathy ❤️ 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Mentor Heath Posted January 7, 2020 Mentor Share Posted January 7, 2020 Way to go erel! It will get much easier! You love you work and enjoy your work mates that will go a long way with your positivity. I like your description of anxiety thoughts on Sunday it is so true. The anxiety lies to us. Your work will help you walk right through wd symptoms! Erel I want to encourage you as you have others! I’ve made myself do this before and listen to the anxiety lies and then I am tired but feel so much better! You can do this ! Keep going! Hang in there !!! 2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper 2013-2018 merry go round zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac. Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml. Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml. Apr 2021 to Jul taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml, Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg, Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. Link to comment
Giulietta Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Heath said: The anxiety lies to us. Well said! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 7, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 7, 2020 Wow, thank you Again To all of you, your words give me so much strenght ! ❤ For now i'm too tired on the evenings,but I will take time this weekend To answer! Big hugs ! 3 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Rhiannon Posted January 7, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 7, 2020 That's great, you're working again! I find that it's sometimes hard to get myself out the door to go to work but once I get there the routine and the distraction can actually be helpful. I hope it turns out to be a positive change for you too. You have made much progress! Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010. Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea. Feb 15 2010: 300 mg Neurontin 200 Lamictal 10 Celexa 0.65 Xanax and 5 mg Ambien Feb 10 2014: 62 Lamictal 1.1 Celexa 0.135 Xanax 1.8 Valium Feb 10 2015: 50 Lamictal 0.875 Celexa 0.11 Xanax 1.5 Valium Feb 15 2016: 47.5 Lamictal 0.75 Celexa 0.0875 Xanax 1.42 Valium 2/12/20 12 0.045 0.007 1 May 2021 7 0.01 0.0037 1 Feb 2022 6 0!!! 0.00167 0.98 2.5 mg Ambien Oct 2022 4.5 mg Lamictal (off Celexa, off Xanax) 0.95 Valium Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Sending good wishes, hoping your day was good ❤️ January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
MissyE Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 5:24 PM, Erell said: Wow, thank you Again To all of you, your words give me so much strenght ! ❤ For now i'm too tired on the evenings,but I will take time this weekend To answer! Big hugs ! Hey lady that's testament to how loved you are. Keep up the self care! You deserve to be proud getting back to work. Remember also to take it steady. 🤗Missy x MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 11, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 11, 2020 hello dear survivors ! Thank you SO MUCH for all your supportive words this week : I haven't been there a lot, but you helped me a lot ! ❤️ So here I am, weekend after one full week of work...I'm proud of myself ! I wouldn't have been able to do it weeks ago, but now work is actually a nice distraction. It hasen't been easy, but really doable : - main thing annoying me is the chemical anxiety I still feel : it is waaaay lower than it has been of course, but constantly there. I had some spikes at work, everyday of this week, but they didn't last ❤️ I can feel that it is a chemical one because it is related to a chemical restlessness, or because it happen suddenly without any reason. This anxiety makes me doubt, and I have intrusive thoughts about possible waves of terror coming. - I'm also very tired, physically and cognitively. I find this very normal while going back to work, so it doesn't really bother me. Have to let time do his job - Fortunately, I still have very sweet nights of sleep, 8hours. ❤️ - I'm trying to do a lot of selfcare : not easy because I now spend my days at work, but I manage to practice some mindfullness on mornings and evenings. - I had some weird spikes of sadness this week, again with no reason. But, it is also very managable, and doesn't last too long ❤️ I don't feel stable yet, and I don't plan to consider a taper before next summer, I'll see there how I'll feel. I'm looking forward to it, because I'm looking forward to the day I'll be drug free. But most important for me now is to live my life, without being bedridden by anxiety. So I'm ok to wait months before considering any change. I'm also trying to think that "everything happen in its time" : even if I would like to do more, for now my priority is work. I'm patiently waiting for the day I will be able to socialize more, or do more. I dont come here a lot because : I'm really tired on evenings and can't focus on what people wrote, and also because I still feel triggered by some stories. Even if I try to ignore them, I still live with a lot of doubts : doubts about future taper, doubts about the possibility that chemical anxiety disappear, doubts about the ability to live a "normal" life or to feel "normal" one day... Be sure I'm still thinking of you my dears ❤️ Well, If I had to resume, I would say that life is not easy, but wayyyyy better than last autumn ❤️ My hopes for the next two months : days without chemical anxiety, and some improvments with tiredness. 😋 Again, thank you! I'm so blessed to have you all in my life ! ❤️ THANK YOU 3 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Mentor mstimc Posted January 11, 2020 Mentor Share Posted January 11, 2020 Sending prayers and positive thoughts from Portugal, Erell! It sounds like you are really taking the right approach--make changes when you're ready, not on a schedule you feel you have to stick to. 1 Tim C Started Paxil for GAD in 1999 Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006 Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009 Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 @Erell, am so happy for you, great that you've gone back to work. The chemical anxiety will go away. You're right to prioritise getting to work. Socialising will come in its own time. I went out on Thursday evening, it was lovely, the first time in ages I've really enjoyed being out. Just tried to go out again now and found the underground not running from my stop....too knackered to do the alternative route. Wishing you a happy and relaxing evening 1 January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted January 12, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well done🤗 1 Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 12, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 12, 2020 Miss you Sass 🤗 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted January 12, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Erell said: and also because I still feel triggered by some stories. it's a phase we go through. Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Rhiannon Posted January 12, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 12, 2020 You are doing SO WELL! I am so proud of you! 🙂 Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010. Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea. Feb 15 2010: 300 mg Neurontin 200 Lamictal 10 Celexa 0.65 Xanax and 5 mg Ambien Feb 10 2014: 62 Lamictal 1.1 Celexa 0.135 Xanax 1.8 Valium Feb 10 2015: 50 Lamictal 0.875 Celexa 0.11 Xanax 1.5 Valium Feb 15 2016: 47.5 Lamictal 0.75 Celexa 0.0875 Xanax 1.42 Valium 2/12/20 12 0.045 0.007 1 May 2021 7 0.01 0.0037 1 Feb 2022 6 0!!! 0.00167 0.98 2.5 mg Ambien Oct 2022 4.5 mg Lamictal (off Celexa, off Xanax) 0.95 Valium Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion. Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Hello @Erell, One thing I noticed during this journey of withdrawals is that I will deal whatever it is, when I was with my friends( during very bad waves), I was obliged to behave in a suitable way despite that if I felt this feeling ( which I had when with friends), if I had this feeling before being with them, I wouldn't have left home but when it attacked me when iam with friends, I was obliged to behave correctly. All these lines mean that I want to tell u even u had some problems( and I hope you don't have) at work, u will be able to overcome or at least, force yourself to behave properly and I was sometimes stand agains my fear and throw myself in social situations despite anxiety and restlessness; I hope u understand it . One more thing altostrata told me and I believed it that, these withdrawals are lifting slowly so they hide step by step but the moment we all need to live to feel recovered will come and u will live it as u want to. Don't worry about the unknown future, may be it doesn't deserve all this anxiety❤️. Good night dear ❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Coucou @Erell, just flying by before my computer goes off tonight.....wishing you a great rest of the working week, will post a bit more at the weekend Hugs x January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Thinking of you, Erell. I hope this week is going well for you and that your sleep continues to be solid. ❤️❤️❤️ Cathy 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Hope you r week has been a good one, @Erell x January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 18, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 18, 2020 Hi dears How Nice you are To keep on supporting me ! Thank you ❤ Well, week went Well! -Less extreme tiredness, so i've been able To live a bit more on evenings 😄 - Still cognitive issues: I notice now that I'm working that I have a relatively bad short term memory, and I have made some errors in my work. Hopefully, nothing too bad ! - Still this weird chemical anxiety, even if it is lower, I don't have any minute without it (except while i'm sleeping) There is two voices in me this week : - a sad one and anxious one : i'm now holding my dose since 4 months, and I think I'm stable or almost stable as there is no 'big swings' in my symptoms. I shouldnt be sad, but sometimes I am : I hoped that once stable I would Feel "normal" , symptom free, chemical anxiety free. And i'm not. - The other voice is more positive, grateful for being functionnal Again, and hopefull for more progress To come if I keep on holding for another few months. Well I keep on resting as much as I can, doing selfcare as much as I can, and hoping for better days Big hugs To all : believe it, it does get better ❤ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted January 18, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, Erell said: I hoped that once stable I would Feel "normal" , symptom free, chemical anxiety free. And i'm not. Unfortunately, "stable" and WDnormal doesn't mean symptom-free but rather that they are tolerable and, as you said, no big swings. I'm very happy that you're stable/almost stable and that you had a good week. You're doing great! Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 18, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 18, 2020 Hi Gridley Yes I know, that's why I'm sometimes sad about it ... But then I realise that weeks ago I was dreaming of being functionnal like today, and I Feel grateful for my current situation 😉 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Vegalia Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Hi @Erell I'm so happy to read you. I'm sure that all is not easy, but you are so brave! You have great improvement. So nice! To work may be not always easy but in the same time so good to have a life a little much "normal". I think on you every days. ❤️ Kisses. Vega. 2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2 28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg 15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg 25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg Link to comment
MissyE Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 13 hours ago, Erell said: The other voice is more positive, grateful for being functionnal Again, and hopefull for more progress To come if I keep on holding for another few months This is your wisest self. You're doing well Erell you deserve to feel proud of yourself. Take all the rest you need while you continue to heal and stabilise. Irene Lyon is really helping with my anxiety: chemical and baseline. Properly understanding what's going on with my nervous system and her simple orientation exercises really suit me well. She has so many free resources... l can't speak highly enough about her. Her helpful team respond to email queries really quickly too. Girl crush!! 😘 Her link is on my thread and in non-drug coping techniques. Have a good day my love. Missy x MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment
MissyE Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Errell, Irene's Canadian and her team are brilliant. Email and ask if they can translate for you. x MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment
mustafa Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi @Erell, So happy you have some good days, I think the best thing about your situation is that u now believe everything will get better, this itself is a great support❤️. Hope next great days for u my dear Take care of yourself ❤️❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 23, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 23, 2020 Thank you for all your kind supportive words ❤ Well just when I was saying I was feeling stable, here comes the change Again! Since last Sunday days are rougher : - SI came back, very low mood - anxiety is higher and ramp up during hard Spikes I almost ran from work To my flat today because of hard chemical anxiety coming out from nowhere! It sounds like PMS but it is way too early for this, so I assume it must be a bad wave. Hoping it Will end soon because this wave brought a lot of doubts and SI. Let's hope my friends ❤ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted January 23, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 23, 2020 Hey you 4 minutes ago, Erell said: It sounds like PMS but it is way too early for this Are you sure. I seem to remember 20-25 of month was when the symptoms you describe started to emerge. I know not very technical with 31 day months. Just saying. Sass Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted January 23, 2020 Author Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Sassenach said: Hey you Are you sure. I seem to remember 20-25 of month was when the symptoms you describe started to emerge. I know not very technical with 31 day months. Just saying. You're right Sass, but it's only been 3 weeks since last periods while last cycles were 4 weeks and more. But you're right, it is a possibility ! I'll be able To tell when it Will be over Reading my post it sounds very négative, and my days are really hard, but I actually also have good signs: sweet nights of quiet sleep and cortisol Spikes have utterly disappeared 😍 Slowly...;) Anyway, thanks for stopping by here dear Sass 🤗 1 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted January 23, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 23, 2020 You are still doing great, you got on the rollercoater, keep riding girl🤗 How are your family? Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Vegalia Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Bonjour @Erell Courage ! Mais tu n'en manques pas. Bisous Vega. 2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2 28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg 15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg 25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg Link to comment
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