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Hi  Erell

 

Good job to not regret and have hope. So important for getting better. 

 

Fingers crosses. Don't stop to be positive even if you have difficulties. What a beautiful message of hope and you're right. 

 

I want to dance too. One day we will dance my dear. 

 

Kisses

 

 

 

2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2  28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 

 

2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg

15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg  25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg

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Erell

do not despair and beat yourself up. 

you did the right thing by changing because of liquid form of Paxil not being available to you . I would have done exactly the same In your shoes. 
hang in there 

it will get better. You could very well turn a corner tomorrow that’s how strange WD is.
have you read Baylissa Frederick books ? They are so good and she is so reassuring that we all recover from WD. believe in this because it is true. If you get the opportunity you can book a phone appointment with Baylissa. She has dealt with many many MANY people going through WD from all around the world  And is so reassuring . She also has a website Bloom In Wellness which I highly recommend. 
 
thinking of you 

LRH 

 

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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13 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

have you read Baylissa Frederick books ? They are so good and she is so reassuring that we all recover from WD.

This is so true!! I’ve just read her book, « With hope in my heart » and it gave me so much hope! I highly recommend it. 
There is two quotes from her book that I’m repeating myself when I’m feeling down: « This too shall pass » and my favorite one, « The usual Outcome of withdrawal is recovery ». 

The last one is my new mantra! 

Take care of you, dear Errel!

 

Hugs to you from Montréal!

À bientôt!

 

2008-Today: various ADs, benzos and seroquel , initially for Anxiety Related Insomnia. (Absolutely no other mental issues than simple Insomnia!).

Numerous W/D and C/T of those meds. During those years, my GP diagnosed me with GAD, Depression, etc... It was all W/D related, I know now!

Fall of 2019, after too fast attempt to taper Mirtazapine, put myself in full blown W/D.
February 2020, found SA and staying on 45mg Mirtazapine, waiting for stabilization.

February 2021, I stupidly used some Ativan prn to cope with Mirtazapine W/D symptoms (By far worst mistake of all my life!!).

Became accidentally and rapidly addicted (within 2-3 weeks). Started taper immediately.

Actual medication: Mirtazapine: 40,0mg - holding-
Ativan Taper: Started at 0,29mg march 2021, 03-28 0.28mg/ 04-08 0.27mg/ 04-26 0.25mg/ (...) 10-29 0.18mg/ 04-05-22 0.17mg/ 08-25-22 0.16mg/ 09-15-22 0.15mg/ 10-22-22 0.14mg/…/ 01-12-2023 0.11mg /07-02-2024 switch to 1mg Valium /

14-02-2024 0,9mg Valium.

Supplements: Omega-3, Probiotic.

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Bonjour @Erell - I am sending you the warmth of the sun, the scents of lavender fields, and the sweet song of the cigales! And the gentlest hug! 

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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Dear Erell, believe that this will pass.

Your brain and body is repairing itself for a new you.

Imagine the feeling of a drug free life. No filter anymore. You will be able to look at the world in a new light. Have deeper connection with people, and feel your surroundings in a way it will take your breath away.
Imagine how good it will feel. All the hard work and suffering will pay off, in a way that will amaze you. See yourself whole, and the warm sun shining on your face in the future. This journey will make you stronger in the end, and you will look back someday and see, if you can survive this, well then you can accomplish anything

Hugs to you💖

 


1999-2020  20 mg Paxil

Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil.

2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12  13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg

 


I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience.

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Hello dears, 

 

and thank you for you sweet support ❤️ I really appreciate it and it helps me to hang on.

 

Baylissa Frderick books are not translated in French. But I sometimes read her website ;)

 

I'm absolutely certain that we all do heal, that's what helps me to hang on.

I read a lot Success Stories these days ;)

And I love visualising how good will life feel when I'll be drug free and healed ! I know I'll be able to deal with common emotions after this journey. 

I know it will get better ❤️

 

It's just very hard to hang on with strong neuroemotions and racing dark thoughts. And it has consequences on daily life : risk of loosing your job, financial issues, ... .

But you already know that.
Trying to build a safety plan (intesne SI) (grateful for the ressources I found in Sympomes and selfcare topic ❤️ )

Strong apathy, DR and DP (didn't recognise myself in the mirror this morning).

 

I'm a bit exhausted I think : I've struggled years to taper slowly benzos, then careful  Paroxetine taper.

And after a big crash, put a lot of hope in Prozac bridge. 

And now I'm crashing badly again.

Just could use some easier times, and I hope Fluoxetine updose will soon offer me this.

 

As always, This too shall pass ☀️

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2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Just a little gift from Brittany to thank you for your support ❤️

 

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2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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37 minutes ago, Erell said:

Just a little gift

Thank you, Erell.  You live in a beautiful country.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg

Taper is 90% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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On 7/2/2020 at 2:10 PM, Erell said:

Hello dears, 

 

and thank you for you sweet support ❤️ I really appreciate it and it helps me to hang on.

 

Baylissa Frderick books are not translated in French. But I sometimes read her website ;)

 

I'm absolutely certain that we all do heal, that's what helps me to hang on.

I read a lot Success Stories these days ;)

And I love visualising how good will life feel when I'll be drug free and healed ! I know I'll be able to deal with common emotions after this journey. 

I know it will get better ❤️

 

It's just very hard to hang on with strong neuroemotions and racing dark thoughts. And it has consequences on daily life : risk of loosing your job, financial issues, ... .

But you already know that.
Trying to build a safety plan (intesne SI) (grateful for the ressources I found in Sympomes and selfcare topic ❤️ )

Strong apathy, DR and DP (didn't recognise myself in the mirror this morning).

 

I'm a bit exhausted I think : I've struggled years to taper slowly benzos, then careful  Paroxetine taper.

And after a big crash, put a lot of hope in Prozac bridge. 

And now I'm crashing badly again.

Just could use some easier times, and I hope Fluoxetine updose will soon offer me this.

 

As always, This too shall pass ☀️

How inspiring your post is erell❤, I liked your words alot. This is the best thing I read today.

I also like your hope that fluoxetine bridge will work but what is better than this and that, is your strength erell; you are strong and will never be down ❤.

 

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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Prozac bridge update : 

- crashed badly after a drop from 0.1mg Paroxetine to 0.06mg Paroxetine

- updosed Fluoxetine to 7mg a week ago

 

Since the Fluoxetine updose

 

- symptoms this last 2 weeks have been hard ( anxiety-dread / cortisol rushes / depression-suicidal). 

- since 3 days : anxiety-dread and agoraphobia are much lower (❤️). Depression/despair/SI are still very hard to bear but I have some moments calmer.

+ since 3 days, evenings are a bit calmer than the rest of the day. 

It's like if during the day I'm utterly unable to feel hope, pleasure, colours, but in the evenings I can feel some tiny bits.

 

I'm off work now for a month.

Also gonna spend some days to my parents house in order to protect myself from SI surges.

During the days I try to fill my mind with beauty and good humour (watching the seaside, watching comedies). I'm not really able to feel beauty or to laugh, but I try to feed my spirit.

I also practice mindfullness, but must confess that it is hard to stay in the present when the present is violent.

 

I have moments while I feel tempted with an updose to 8mg Fluoxetine.

 

I dont believe anymore in the imbalance theory, but considering that my body works with SSRI since 10-15 years, I wonder if my violent depressed symptoms come from a lack of serotonin recapture.

Or if I'm mistaken and this is just a matter of a destabilised CNS and a much more complex process.

In which case, an updose to 8mg could be a mistake because of a risk of kindling.

 

@Altostrata : doest it make sense ? Or does it sound like I'm still too influenced by psychiatry lies ?

(no emergency of course, just willing to learn)

 

 

Everybody, take care ❤️

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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8 hours ago, Erell said:

I wonder if my violent depressed symptoms come from a lack of serotonin recapture.

 

Nope. This doesn't happen.

 

The additional 1mg is gradually taking effect. It takes at least a week for it to fully register. Let's watch it for a while more. It could be another small increase, such as 0.5mg, will work.

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17 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

 

Nope. This doesn't happen

 

It seems that I still have unpatienting work to do.

It really is a process to deconstruct beliefs !

 

 Unfortunately, lots of books or references mentionned on SA are not translated in French (like "anatomy of an epidemic").

 

I'm glad I met you and survivors and glad I have an opportunity to put into questions all I've been told since I'm a teenager.

 

Thank you ☀️

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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17 minutes ago, Erell said:

 

It seems that I still have unpatienting work to do.

It really is a process to deconstruct beliefs !

 

 Unfortunately, lots of books or references mentionned on SA are not translated in French (like "anatomy of an epidemic").

 

I'm glad I met you and survivors and glad I have an opportunity to put into questions all I've been told since I'm a teenager.

 

Thank you ☀️

 

Erell 

I know you will get through this why? 
because you have courage and determination and the commitment to come succeed 

onward and upward My friend 

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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@Erell, hello, dropping by to give you a hug. 

 

I also find it's quite tricky, the whole depatienting process....almost every time I have a dip, I worry about whether it's my 'underlying condition coming back.' I think that has been hammered into my head by various GPs for so long that it's a hard thought to shake.

 

Just very grateful to have found this place ❤️

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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On 7/4/2020 at 1:18 PM, Erell said:

I'm off work now for a month.

Also gonna spend some days to my parents house in order to protect myself from SI surges.

During the days I try to fill my mind with beauty and good humour (watching the seaside, watching comedies). I'm not really able to feel beauty or to laugh, but I try to feed my spirit.

I also practice mindfullness, but must confess that it is hard to stay in the present when the present is violent.

 

Bonjour @Erell! I am thinking of you and also sending hugs 🤗 🤗! You are doing all the right things to take care of yourself right now, and I am glad you have your parents by your side. And you remind me to look around and feed my spirit with beauty. Bisous!

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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Hi, Erell,  I’m glad you have a safe place to be.  That is so important.  Hang in there.  You are doing great.

Rosetta

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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@Longroadhome, @Cigale, @sunnysideup69, @Rosetta : Thank you, I love reading your kind words of support, you're so nice ❤️

 

1 hour ago, Rosetta said:

 I’m glad you have a safe place to be. 

 

This echoes with some thinking have been having this week : about how WD is an equilibrium teacher.

 

For example : my parents house is not always a safe place. They trust psychiatry and deny WD. It's sometimes hard to handle their speeches or their reproach.

However, they do love me, and while struggling with intense SI, it is safer for me to be with people than to stay alone.

Nothing is perfect, I have to find an equilibrium in order to take care of myself.

 

Same with activities : I garden to change the Channel, it helps me to cope with depressed feelings. 

However, if I garden too much, I'm often agitated in the evening and anxiety ramp up.

So, gardening is not good or wrong, it's all about equilibrium.

 

This is a huge life lesson for me : nothing is perfect, even if I've always tried to be Perfect (leading me to drugs).

 

And even in WD, I can work to try to find the best equilibrium in order to take care of myself.

So, instead of just waiting for the day I'll be healed and everything will be Perfect, I can try to practice this equilibrium idea and learn to love myself.

 

Well, I don't know if my thoughts are understandable with my convoluted English, but as these thoughts are helping me a bit I thought I could try to share :)

 

Take care ☀️

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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1 hour ago, Erell said:

@Longroadhome, @Cigale, @sunnysideup69, @Rosetta : Thank you, I love reading your kind words of support, you're so nice ❤️

 

 

This echoes with some thinking have been having this week : about how WD is an equilibrium teacher.

 

For example : my parents house is not always a safe place. They trust psychiatry and deny WD. It's sometimes hard to handle their speeches or their reproach.

However, they do love me, and while struggling with intense SI, it is safer for me to be with people than to stay alone.

Nothing is perfect, I have to find an equilibrium in order to take care of myself.

 

Same with activities : I garden to change the Channel, it helps me to cope with depressed feelings. 

However, if I garden too much, I'm often agitated in the evening and anxiety ramp up.

So, gardening is not good or wrong, it's all about equilibrium.

 

This is a huge life lesson for me : nothing is perfect, even if I've always tried to be Perfect (leading me to drugs).

 

And even in WD, I can work to try to find the best equilibrium in order to take care of myself.

So, instead of just waiting for the day I'll be healed and everything will be Perfect, I can try to practice this equilibrium idea and learn to love myself.

 

Well, I don't know if my thoughts are understandable with my convoluted English, but as these thoughts are helping me a bit I thought I could try to share :)

 

Take care ☀️

Hi, you're right, totally right. 

 

Nice words. 

 

Courage. ❤️

 

2018 : 29 July xanax 0,125x 2 12 Aug 0,25 x 2  28 Aug clotiazépam 5x2 4 Oct Prazepam : 5-5-7,5 to 3,5-3,5-6,5 25 oct 10x3 21 nov 9,5 x3/ Now Taper 2% / 21days = 19 may 2019 7,32x3/ Now 5%/8 days =10 july 5,145 x3 /Now 2% / 21 days = 27 sept 4,75x3/ Now 1%/21 days = nov 4,70 x3 dec 4,65x3 jan 2020 4,60x3 feb 4,50x3 march 4,45x3 april 4,385x3 may 4,32x3 

 

2018 : 29 Aug Venlafaxine 75mg XR 19 sept 37,5mg 4 oct 75mg18 oct bridge sertraline 1 nov Sertraline 50mg slow taper until mi April 2019= 25mg

15 July Escitalopram 5mg 20 Ju 4mg 22 Ju 3,25mg 23 ju 2,5mg  25 ju 2,25mg 8 Aug 2 mg 16 Aug 1,75mg 20 Aug 1,50mg 12 sept 1,25mg 24 sept 1,38mg 28 sept 1,50mg 8 Jan 1, 60mg

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3 hours ago, Erell said:

They trust psychiatry and deny WD. It's sometimes hard to handle their speeches or their reproach.

I know exactly how you feel. I have experienced that for years from family and friends. 
What I do now is that  I don’t express my feelings on the issue. First because it only frustrates me and angers me, and second I trust my own gut first and foremost. 
Stay true to yourself, your instinct is the true one. 
You are doing great Erell

Hugs from Reykjavík 🥰

 


1999-2020  20 mg Paxil

Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil.

2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12  13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg

 


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@Erell You are so right about the equilibrium/balance being important. I try for that, too. My husband always says, "All things in moderation." Not too much, not too little. Not too high, not too low. Just find the balance. Despite the problems you are having with medication, your mental attitude is right on. Best wishes!

Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016.

Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017

July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg;  Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018.

Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg.  Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020

Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks.  

June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks.

June 23, 2020  = 16.66 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg

2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg.....Oct. 9 = 6.08 mg.....Dec. 4 = 5.12 mg......Jan. 21, 2022 = 4.16mg.....Mar. 26 = 3.20mg......May 7 = 1.92mg....June 11 = 1.6mg.....July 23= 1.28 mg.....Aug. 13 = 0.96 mg.....Sept. 1 =O mg.

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On 7/4/2020 at 9:12 PM, Altostrata said:

 

he additional 1mg is gradually taking effect. It takes at least a week for it to fully register. Let's watch it for a while more. 

 

Two weeks after updosing Fluoxetine from 6mg to 7mg.

 

Improvments

 

- Strong DR/DP faded

- Nauseas disappeared

- Fewer surges to "escape", and they are less intense

- Fewer SI, and they are less intense

- less crying spells, less despair

- More able to feel some hope or some pleasure at moments

- Strong brain fog sometimes fade

Symptoms still hard :

 

- Cortisol rushes (2-3 during the night and one in the mornin)

- Broken sleep, awake in terror

- high anxiety, sometimes easier in the evening

- difficulty to swallow (related to high anxiety - fear of choking)

 

On 7/4/2020 at 9:12 PM, Altostrata said:

 

It could be another small increase, such as 0.5mg, will work.

 

I have to decide if I updose next week. 
I hesitate : on one hand my CNS probably needs some stability, on the other hand I need to find a Fluoxetine dose that might help with Paxil WD symptoms.

Tricky choice ! 

In French we say "la nuit porte conseil" ;)

(sleeping on the issue)

 

Take care ❤️

 

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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You might wait another week or so, could be Prozac increase is still ramping up.

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4 hours ago, Erell said:

 

 

Two weeks after updosing Fluoxetine from 6mg to 7mg.

 

Improvments

 

- Strong DR/DP faded

- Nauseas disappeared

- Fewer surges to "escape", and they are less intense

- Fewer SI, and they are less intense

- less crying spells, less despair

- More able to feel some hope or some pleasure at moments

- Strong brain fog sometimes fade

Symptoms still hard :

 

- Cortisol rushes (2-3 during the night and one in the mornin)

- Broken sleep, awake in terror

- high anxiety, sometimes easier in the evening

- difficulty to swallow (related to high anxiety - fear of choking)

 

 

I have to decide if I updose next week. 
I hesitate : on one hand my CNS probably needs some stability, on the other hand I need to find a Fluoxetine dose that might help with Paxil WD symptoms.

Tricky choice ! 

In French we say "la nuit porte conseil" ;)

(sleeping on the issue)

 

Take care ❤️

 

 

Dear erell, 

I suggest u dont up dose fluoxetine and wait for the problem of swallow to fade.

This was a very common problem to me but what made it totally easier was avoiding some foods and focusing on having some other foods.

When I felt it was very bad and iam afraid of a panick attack, I used to eat Avocado, this fruit is highly calming for CNS for me.

Again and as I estimate the problem erell; focusing on food/ diet can help u avoid updosing.

Good night for u.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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Hello,

Thank you Alto, and Mustafa.

 

Actually Mustafa I don't think about an updose because of swallowing issues.

I consider an updose in order to try find a Fluoxetine dose that might help to alleviate Paxil WD symptoms (which are debilitating atm, I'm not functionnal and housebound).

 

I've read a lot about reinstatement/updosing on SA, but being in a crossover between drugs makes it confusing.

It seems that I made a failed switch.

 

My fear is that I may not take enough Fluoxetine to make a successfull bridge.

This fear leads me to consider updoses.

But I also know that too much changes can destabilise further.

 

There is no good answer , it's a matter of guesses ;)

 

Anyway, I'm gonna follow Altostrata suggestion : my breasts are painfull today so I might be in PMS, could be interesting to wait and see how I'll feel after my periods.

 

 

 

Take care ❤

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2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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No, your switch to Prozac did not fail, there's every evidence it will work. You just need to find the right Prozac dosage.

 

Estimating how much Prozac to substitute is always tricky.

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Sending you healing thoughts today!

2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d

Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion

Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020,  accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave

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20 hours ago, Altostrata said:

No, your switch to Prozac did not fail, there's every evidence it will work. 

This sentence hit me ! 

I struggle to be objective, too much neuroanxiety.

So lucky to benefit from an outside perspective ! 

 

19 hours ago, Dejavu said:

Sending you healing thoughts today!

 

Thank you ❤

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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Well, while I've spent 7 months waiting patiently for stabilisation holding 10mg Paroxetine without listening to updose impulses, this morning I wake up in cortisol spike with a strong impulse and I updosed to 7.5mg Fluoxetine.

How weird is this!

At least my impulse was about a slight increase following Altostrata suggestion.

 

As I don't want to do the yo-yo, I'm gonna stick to 7.5mg and see how that goes. And hopping I'm getting closer to the right dose 😉

 

One good news : I still take 0.06mg Paroxetine, and the lab told me yesterday that some bottles were back on the market. I've called my pharmacy and I'll get 3 bottles, which means I have enough Paroxetine to hold my dose until November. 

 

Well, to be continued...☺

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2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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Bonjour @Erell! I am thinking of you and sending healing thoughts your way. You may have already come across this, but I just started exploring Eckhart Tolle and his approach to presence (vs mindfulness) and meditation. I find him really refreshing and even funny. AND most of his books and videos have been translated into French. Bisous!

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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Bonjour @Erell! I am thinking of you and sending healing thoughts your way. You may have already come across this, but I just started exploring Eckhart Tolle and his approach to presence (vs mindfulness) and meditation. I find him really refreshing and even funny. AND most of his books and videos have been translated into French. Bisous!

Bonjour Cigale !

Yes, I discovered Eckhart Tolle during my benzo taper, and it has helped me ! ☺

Thank you for your kind thoughts ☀️

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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That's great news re the liquid paroxetine, @Erell. Should make dosing easier?

Got my fingers crossed for you that the extra teeny bit of fluoxetine is the magic number xxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hi @Erell. Just checking to see how you're coming along. Hope it's a good day for you!

 

DJV

2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d

Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion

Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020,  accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave

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On 7/15/2020 at 7:55 AM, sunnysideup69 said:

Got my fingers crossed for you that the extra teeny bit of fluoxetine is the magic number xxx

 

"The magic dose" could be a movie title 😄

Yes I really do hope 7.5mg could be my magic dose in this crossover.

 

16 hours ago, Dejavu said:

Hi @Erell. Just checking to see how you're coming along. Hope it's a good day for you

 

Thank you !

 

Well, I find it difficult to answer the "how are you doing" : symptoms fluctuate a lot throughout the day.

 

There are improvments :

- cortisol rushes don't wake me during the night. Now I just have one strong spike that wake me up around 7am.

- Wednesday evening I had a violent headache, BUT I felt normal emotionnaly 😍 Was quite surprised !

- Even if neuroemotions can still be hard, I feel overall calmer. I'm not in crisis anymore, trying to stay alive.

 

So, I would say that anxiety and dépression are still hard, but there are some lights :)

 

Periods didn't come yet, so I'm hopping to find some more relief when they will come ☺

 

Take care, and thank you for your nice support ❤

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2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

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Thinking of you, and I hope you have found the right dose. -Rosetta

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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but there are some lights

 

Salut @Erell! Lights are good. I hope you are continuing to improve. If you get a chance, you might try and find Jupiter in the sky tonight. It is a very bright light! 🤩

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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Hello @Altostrata,

 

--> no emergency : just willing to be more autonomous in the next weeks without bothering you regularly.

 

On 7/12/2020 at 9:00 PM, Altostrata said:

 You just need to find the right Prozac dosage

 

I have issues to understand how to do that :

 

- as we know, an updose isn't a magic fix : after an updose, people often need to hold and stabilise for many months. 

-as there won't be immediate improvements,  how will I be able to know that I found the right Prozac dosage ? 

- in fact, how can I know at which dose hold steady for months instead of updosing again ?

 

I don't know if it's clear and if you understand what remains fuzzy in my understanding of the process.

 

Thank you in advance ❤️

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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