SoggyEconomist Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 My doctor adamantly told me "olanzapine doesn't cause habituation/dependence, you can just stop taking it", which is to, to say the least, logically untrue since when I first started taking it knocked me out, whereas now it doesn't do anything. I am seriously considering dumping this imbecile doctor and going back to the old one. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Do you thing I should cut another 10% considering that 225mg venlfaxine may decrease the metabolism of olanzapine? 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted October 22, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, SoggyEconomist said: Do you thing I should cut another 10% considering that 225mg venlfaxine may decrease the metabolism of olanzapine? No. You are tapering the Olanzapine too fast. You cut 10% on Oct. 1, then another 10% 17 days later on Oct. 17. You should taper by 10% of current dose every four weeks, no faster. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Giulietta Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 5:31 AM, SoggyEconomist said: I am seriously considering dumping this imbecile doctor and going back to the old one. Hello SoggyEconomist, Go for it. The current MD (like 'most'?) sounds like is not knowledgeable, has forgotton primum non ocere, and unable to listen to his patients). Even if he does't know - s/he shoudl be able to listen. Perhaps s/he will rethink if given the Horowitz paper and paper on SERT. 10% of the previous month's dose to save yourself a lot of grief. Giuilietta Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 I'm definetely dumping this doctor and I will go to my university's doctor which is 70 euros cheaper. I think I will try to hold the latest since I really don't want anymore olanzapine in my system due to the venlafaxine interactions. If I'm unable to sleep I will reinstate the previous dose. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 11:35 AM, SoggyEconomist said: I am gonna try to cold turkey the olanzapine and see what happens. This is a terrible idea. Be forewarned. Do not cold turkey any of your drugs. We're not going to hold your hand through self-induced withdrawal insomnia. Quote 2019-10-22 CT paroxetine, increase venlafaxine to 225mg and decrease olanzapine to 1.82 Did you do this yesterday? Also a terrible idea. Please note: We advise changing only one drug at a time and definitely DO NOT COLD TURKEY absent a life-threatening adverse drug reaction. If you are an impulsive person who cannot manage a taper, we cannot support you -- you'll be making your own problems. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 As I said I was unable to sleep at 3 am, so I decided to reinstate 1.82. If I get extreme anxiety or insomnia I willl reinstate the previous dose. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Do you think it is a good idea to substitute the olanzapine for mirtazapine? 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 24, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 24, 2019 Sorry, we do not support people who are determined to constantly experiment with drug dosage changes and switches. Quitting and then reinstating can cause nervous system instability for weeks. Figure out a consistent drug schedule you can follow every day, then we can talk. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Do you think 10% every 2 weeks is too fast? Isn't fluoxetine usually prescribed for ssri withdrawal? Why is mirtazapine such a bad idea if it can ease olanzapine withdrawal? 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 25, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 25, 2019 Did you do this Quote 2019-10-22 CT paroxetine, increase venlafaxine to 225mg and decrease olanzapine to 1.82 1) Do not ever cold turkey a psychiatric drug, even if you're taking another drug. 2) Do not change more than one drug at a time. 3) Show some respect -- don't waste the staff's time by arguing with them. 4) Show some respect -- answer questions from the staff. You're welcome to conduct your own drug experiments, just don't bother us with them. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 I cold turkeyed the paxil and so far I'm fine. Sorry, I never meant to disrespect anyone. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Hi Soggy, I'm a Zyprexa survivor, it's very possible, but insomnia is the biggest challenge. Take it really slow, and prepare yourself. There are so many good reasons not to take an antipsychotic! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 is taking nicotine gum recommended for ameliorating the cognitive effects of olanzapine? I'm kind of desperate. I also starting taking a multi supplement which is supposed to help cognitive function. It contains: Alpha gpc, omega 3, phospatidylserine ,bacopa, vinca minor, huperzine, resveratrol, ac l carnitine, ac l tyrosine, l-theanine and some vitamins. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 27, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 27, 2019 If I were you, I'd stop experimenting with drugs to enhance your cognition or whatever you're doing. If insomnia is a major complaint, reducing olanzapine, which often acts as a soporific, and increasing venlafaxine, which often is stimulating, goes in the opposite direction. Not sure what we can do for you if your instincts are to cause your own problems. What exactly are you taking now, at what times of day, and what dosages? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 I am honestly so desperate that it feels I have nothing to lose about trying new supplements/nootropics. I don't know how I am gonna study for exams with my memory in this state. Regardless I appreciate your advice and warnings about the dangers of doing so. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 I am currently experiencing some malaise and diarrhea. Needless to say I won't be taking that stupid supplement tomorrow. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 I am been getting some strange sensations these past few days, It feels like the world is spinning or something like that. Has anyone had a similar experience? 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 29, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 10/27/2019 at 8:53 AM, Altostrata said: What exactly are you taking now, at what times of day, and what dosages? If you can't answer this, we can't help you, period. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 I thought my signature was explicit enough. I am taking 225mg venlafaxine and 1.64mg of olanzapine. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 I have an appointment with my university psychiatrist tomorrow. I am going to compile a few of the horror stories of zyprexa found in this website and on the internet and show him. I am also going to show him the article on wikipedia which says thienobenzodiazepines affect gaba-a just like benzodiazepines. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Finally I found a doctor who isn't a drug pusher and gave me some real insight about my life. He told me I have been trying to run away from my life due to the trauma I have experienced, and that I am seeking refuge in videogames, stimulants and binge eating. He counseled me to do me psychotherapy and that no drug will ever solve my personalities issues. I will probably never forget this conversation. I have learned more in this 1 hour than in any of the previous appointments combined. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 I have been feeling great actually. I am not quite sure if this is mania building up. I can feel my empty headness and anhedonia lifting. I decided to keep taking the supplement and the nicotine gums, as I have noticed a improvement in memory and attention. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I am going to taper 10% every 4 days. I know this seems to fast, but I'm going to make a run for it. Hopefully I am going to be off olanzapine in 2 months or so. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 I feel like my thinking is coming back. Yay! 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Happy new year everyone! I am down to 0.43mg following a 10% week taper. When can I stop it once and for all? cheers 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted January 10, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, SoggyEconomist said: When can I stop it once and for all? We recommend jumping to zero at 0.1 or lower if possible, like 0.05. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 the current pill weight is 0.18/1.05. my plan is to go 0.18->0.16->0.15->0.14-> 0.01. it will take 18 weeks. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
FrenchVanilla Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hey man, I cold turkeyed off 2.5 mg of olanzapine and it was the hardest thing I've ever had to do, if I could go back I would of tapered for sure Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Did you have insomnia going cold turkey? I think my venlafaxine and nicotine are raising my shitprexa levels 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 I am going to stop cold turkey on 4th of feb 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Tonight is the night I am going to finally stop olanzapine. My last dose was 0.24mg. If things go badly, how long should I endure the withdrawal? Which dose should I reinstate? 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 I changed my mind. I am afraid of getting withdrawal symptoms. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 This is it, tonight is gonna be the first without olanzapine in 7 months. My scale is not good at detected objects under 10mgs, so there's no point in tapering any further. 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
Moderator hayduke Posted March 19, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 19, 2020 Are you going ok Soggyeconomist? I am not a health professional - your actions are your own. Please do not seek tapering support via private message - "Any reason to hold is a good one" My taper visualised as a graph | My intro thread Backdrop: 2003 10mg olanzapine | 2004 2-3mg risperidone | end 2014 3wks aripiprazole 2015: olanzapine 10 -> 7½ -> 6⅔ -> 5mg by crude pill cutter 2018: Mar 5.00mg -> water titrated taper -> Aug2.5mg tablet and hold Jan 2019 2.50mg water titration -> Jan 2020 1.214 -> Jan 2021 0.44 -> 2 Oct 0.205 ->3 Oct ZERO🥂 Jun 2023 💉150mg paliperidone "loading" depot shot, 100mg 1wk after Jul 100mg Aug-Dec 75mg/4wks Jul 2023 2.50mg aripiprazole/day attempt to lower prolactin^ Jan-Feb 2024 cross taper off shots to 1mg risperidone Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country did to you" -- KMFDM Link to comment
SoggyEconomist Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hi hayduke, I was going fine until this whole coronavirus situation, which will probably ruin the global economy and cause a whole lot of human suffering. I am still taking 1/2*0.05/0.105*2.5mg of olanzapine, along with 225mg venlafaxine, and a lot of nicotine gum. How have you been doing? 2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg 2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg 2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine 2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg 2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82 2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg 2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg 2019-1-4 decreased olanzapine to 1.32 2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06 2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68 10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT Link to comment
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