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SoggyEconomist: doctor told me to cold turkey 2.5mg olanzapine, any advice?


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Yeah a lot of the existing social structures are going to be sorely tested.  Realistically many of them had become quite dysfunctional anyway, but the suffering is the problem as you say.  I'd like to think that this may be an opportunity for improvements to society overall but definitely a hard time.

 

Not sure what your dosage works out to exactly there, but glad you're doing ok.

I am not a health professional - your actions are your own.  

Please do not seek tapering support via private message - "Any reason to hold is a good one"

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

Backdrop:  2003 10mg olanzapine | 2004 2-3mg risperidone | end 2014 3wks aripiprazole

2015: olanzapine  10 -> 7½ -> 6⅔ -> 5mg  by crude pill cutter

2018:  Mar 5.00mg -> water titrated taper -> Aug2.5mg tablet and hold

Jan 2019 2.50mg water titration -> Jan 2020 1.214  -> Jan 2021 0.44 -> 2 Oct 0.205 ->3 Oct ZERO🥂

Jun 2023 💉150mg paliperidone "loading" depot shot, 100mg 1wk after Jul 100mg Aug-Dec 75mg/4wks

Jul 2023 2.50mg aripiprazole/day attempt to lower prolactin^

Jan-Feb 2024 cross taper off shots to 1mg risperidone

 

Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country did to you"  -- KMFDM

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I am off olanzapine for 2 days now. My sleeping schedule is kinda messed up, but I'm still sleeping 8 hours a day. Hopefully this is as bad as it will get.

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg

2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg

2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine
2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82

2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg

2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg

2019-1-4  decreased olanzapine to 1.32

2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06

2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68

10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT

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What was the size of your last dose and how long had you been at that before CT?

I am not a health professional - your actions are your own.  

Please do not seek tapering support via private message - "Any reason to hold is a good one"

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

Backdrop:  2003 10mg olanzapine | 2004 2-3mg risperidone | end 2014 3wks aripiprazole

2015: olanzapine  10 -> 7½ -> 6⅔ -> 5mg  by crude pill cutter

2018:  Mar 5.00mg -> water titrated taper -> Aug2.5mg tablet and hold

Jan 2019 2.50mg water titration -> Jan 2020 1.214  -> Jan 2021 0.44 -> 2 Oct 0.205 ->3 Oct ZERO🥂

Jun 2023 💉150mg paliperidone "loading" depot shot, 100mg 1wk after Jul 100mg Aug-Dec 75mg/4wks

Jul 2023 2.50mg aripiprazole/day attempt to lower prolactin^

Jan-Feb 2024 cross taper off shots to 1mg risperidone

 

Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country did to you"  -- KMFDM

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Hi Soggy! 🙂

 

I'm looking at You Paxil history:

 

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, 
2019-10-1 paroxetine still 30mg

2019-10-17 paroxetine still 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, 

 

So it seems you took 30 mgsof Paxil from 5/2/19 to 10/17/19, and then was finished taking it 5 days later by 10/22/19, is that correct?

Just over 5 month ago since You Cold Turkey'd?

If so, did You notice any emotional outbursts, crying, etc.  Along with any of the head shocks or "Paxil Flu"symptoms, like aches and pains?

Interested in how Your managing any Paxil issues.  Thanks😎

 

 

 

 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs 8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg,(syringe change issue date?) 4/22/19 0.60 mg, 5/24/19 0.60 mg, 7/7/19 0.52 mgs, 8/4/19 0.44mgs, 11/4/19 0.36mgs, 2/1/20 0.28mgs, 3/1/20 0.24mgs (crash April 6) Compound started 6/28/21: 0.24mgs, 8/29/21: 0.22mgs, 10/31/21: 0.20mgs, 1/03/22: 0.18mgs, 3/5/22: 0.16mgs, 5/5/22: 0.14mgs.

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

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HI @Colonial I switched from paxil to venlafaxine. 

Hi @hayduke my last dose was about 0.12mg, which is the least amount detectable by my scale.

No withdrawals until this moment. I took my last dose about 3 days ago.

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg

2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg

2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine
2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82

2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg

2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg

2019-1-4  decreased olanzapine to 1.32

2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06

2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68

10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT

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Hi Soggy-  I'm collecting data for a project for SA. Could you please give me some information about your venlafaxin tablets? I need to know the average weight of a full tablet and the strength of that tablet as listed on the packaging and the manufacturer. The average weight of tablets is almost impossible to find on line and I want to compile a chart for the various medications we work with.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Brassmonkey

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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I haven't weighted the venlafaxine pills yet. The TEVA olanzapine 2.5mg pills weigh ~0.105g each. The smallest weight detectable by my scale is about 0.005g

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg

2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg

2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine
2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82

2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg

2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg

2019-1-4  decreased olanzapine to 1.32

2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06

2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68

10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT

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Thanks, that one is helpful too. When you get around to weighing the other please let me know.  No rush.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Still no withdrawals

venlafaxine 150 tolife weighs 0.787g and 75 weighs 0.402g

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg

2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg

2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine
2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82

2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg

2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg

2019-1-4  decreased olanzapine to 1.32

2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06

2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68

10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT

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Thanks, that really helps.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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No withdrawals whatsoever. I think this taper went more smoothly than I expected.

Maybe it is because I am also on venlafaxine?

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg

2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg

2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine
2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82

2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg

2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg

2019-1-4  decreased olanzapine to 1.32

2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06

2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68

10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT

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Your olanzapine taper schedule was gradual enough that your nervous system adjusted along the way.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I'll be forced to quit nicotine since amazonuk stop shiping it to portugal? How bad is nicotine withdrawal compared to psych drugs?

2019-5-2 Started Paroxetine 30mg, olanzapine 2.5mg, xanax 0.5mg

2019-9-23 Started venlafaxine 75mg

2019-9-30 venlafaxine 150mg, 2.5mg olanzapine
2019-10-1 Cut olanzapine to 2.25mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-17 Cut olanzapine to 2.025mg, venlfaxine 150mg, paroxetine 30mg

2019-10-22 paroxetine 0mg, venlafaxine to 250mg and olanzapine to 1.82

2019-10-29 decreased olanzapine to 1.64, venlfaxine 250mg

2019-10-31 decreased olanzapine to 1.47 venlafaxine 250mg

2019-1-4  decreased olanzapine to 1.32

2019-1-8 decreased olanzapine to 1.18 , 2019-1-12 venla 225mg olan 1.06

2019-11-16 olan 0.95, 2019-11-20 0.855, 2019-11-24 0.76, 2019-11-28 0.68

10% reduction a week until april 2020 down to 0.12mg olanzapine CT

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