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Well, feeling I've accomplished something today. Got up, was feeling crappy but forced myself to go and do Park Run in Finsbury Park, 5k. Now enjoying an endorphin high which I hope will power me through the rest of the day. Finally got the TV working and so can enjoy some Christmas movies today. Gonna chill. 

 

Park Run, for those of you not in the UK, is a nationwide free 5k run, usually on Saturdays, in parks across the UK. 

 

Now just going to eat and relax as best as I can for the rest of the day. The organisers of the Finsbury Park one decided to do one today, Xmas day, and it did make me smile to jog alongside a lot of people dressed as Santa/ reindeer/ elves etc. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Wednesday 25th December 2019 Yaaay, survived Christmas ❤️ even had quite a peaceful, content day. 

 

Early hours, awake, upstairs having a party. Changed to sleeping in other room. 

430 roughly now awake anxiety already 2/3

530 get up, dreading the day a bit

600 breakfast

700 Venlafaxine 75mg XR plus 1100mg omega 3 anxiety at 3

Forcing myself out to do Park Run at 9am, really feel nervous, some dyspepsia, but still make myself go

 

1020 feeling better after Park Run, it was fun, and my sense of isolation disappeared

1200 reflecting that this is kind of a typical WD normal day, anx/dep around 2/3, its tolerable and I'm looking forward to this baseline improving

 

1300 have made simple roast dinner, eat it feeling grateful that my mood has lifted today and that I got the TV working properly

Chucked Xmas pud, realised it contains alcohol and not gonna risk it, will buy an alcohol free pud tomorrow

 

1400 cheerful call with parents, do meditation afterwards

 

1500 feeling much better, pretty normal in fact, anx is now 0, remains this way for rest of day

 

2000 warm bath

2030 screens off

2100 writing in journal about the day, including gratitudes

2130 bed

 

It was an OK day, even good in parts, very grateful as last 3 hadn't been so good. 

I feel more at peace in my environment. 

 

Note to self: moving to a new environment/ settling in it may cause an uptick in symptoms...because of lack of familiarity. This is a WD symptom, although I did have it to a lesser extent when anxious before I used antideps, its stronger now. I need to take some distracting things to do when going away. 

 

Also, have a recurring distressing thought in a wave/low patch about no meaning to my life/ pointless/ being entirely alone. I know this is chemically induced because it used to be a common theme of my comedown from MDMA. It's wonky neurotransmitters/destabilised nervous system. It's not *me* but a symptom. Sitting here now, typing, I don't feel that way at all, I feel excited about future possibilities. I also know I have loved ones. 

 

Also, I now don't feel at all freaked out that I have a big expanse of unstructured time in front of me. That occurs in a wave, too. But still creating goals for the next day, to help me if I need structure. 

 

 

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Thursday 26th December 2019 was an OK day, WD normal

 

Woke a few times, think it was early morning, went back to sleep, checked phone

520 got up, feel a bit calmer on waking today

630 make breakfast, anxiety around 2, more physical than mental, inner restlessness

700 Venlafaxine 75mg plus fish oil 1100mg 

1030 home from shopping, mince pies and cream.... Yes, sugary, but am beginning a year with no sugar tomorrow (apart from fruit) so it's a final treat

1200 lunch, anxiety pretty much 1/0

 

1400 body scan meditation, accidentally fall asleep, slight anxiety on waking

1800 picking at leftovers for supper

 

Pretty good afternoon, do some exercises

Evening, 2030 warm bath

2045 feeling a bit flat after bath, fatigue, write my diary for the day including gratitudes

Overall about WD normal today, not happy not sad

2130 lights off, go to sleep. 

 

I should note that I hardly ever have trouble falling asleep, but I do wake early... Also my body really doesn't seem to want to sleep longer than 7 hours max at the moment. I guess that's not too bad for WD, even if the sleep is a bit broken sometimes? 

 

Have been watching His Dark Materials, serialised on BBC. I was thinking that antidepressant WD normal is a steady state of feeling as if I have been cut off from my Daemon. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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OK, so, objectively, I think that although December has been a bit wavey, I am still improving. Writing this as a reminder to myself as there are days when I forget. 

 

 I have noticed that the pre med morning feeling of dizziness has gone. I thought that was caused level of Venlafaxine being lowest in the morning, but I think it was a WD effect from cessation of Citalopram. Touch wood, I'm also experiencing less panicky feelings over the last two weeks. Mostly, anxiety is my main symptom of destabilisation, which still fluctuates, but I am having periods of time without it there. 

 

I'm also coping well living in someone else's flat over Christmas. It threw me a bit at first as I don't have my go-to distraction things around me, but I do have a cat, who is VERY distracting 😊

I've had a friend over for tea and am going to have a friend here for lunch on Sunday. The following weekend, I'm doing an overnight stay with my mum and dad. I'm forcing myself out into busy Islington for a haircut today. Not especially looking forward to being in a salon, but I find having my hair cut relaxing. 

All in all, not doing too badly. WD normal levels of anx/dep are around 2 or 3, out of 10. Occasional spikes still. Oh yes, and doing something out of routine makes me feel a bit 'unreal' briefly, can't remember if that's dp or dr, but it's mild and once I'm out, it goes. 

Sugar is a no no and I need to reduce black tea. Maybe one mug in the morning. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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And also.... I'm coping with the waves of anhedonia/meaninglessness better. Just had a half hour wave of 'life is pointless' whilst walking  through Islington. Took a deep breath... And carried on walking. Before, those feelings were scaring me into scurrying home. I'm ok now. God, WD is weird. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Friday 27th December 2019 (OK day, WD normal pretty much) 

 

430 am awake, restless sleep in early hours, make a tea go back to bed, this is nice because Coconut snuggles up next to my legs on the bed, very soothing

 

600 get up feeling flat 2, anxiety also 2, body also very achey

 

700 Venlafaxine 75mg XR and 1100mg fish oil

730 first breakfast, feeling hungry

930 second breakfast

 

I've got some nasty mouth ulcers recently, not sure why, plus am feeling spotty. I did indulge in sugar at the end of school term and over Christmas, so it could be that. But also, could be WD. Who knows? Tend to think mouth ulcers are caused by being run down/stressed. 

 

1045 returned from walk around nature reserve, pleasant walk, clears my mind, anxiety around 1/2

 

1115 have early lunch, really hungry today 

 

Thinking about going to hair salon gives me a bit of an anxiety spike around mid day, some bodily agitation, tremors, anxiety about 2/3

 

1400 take underground and arrive for hair appointment, even getting the tube is a bit of an accomplishment at the mo, previously it was filling me with dread. It's actually OK and I don't need to distract myself on phone. Am just looking around at people. Haircut is quite a nice experience. I feel a bit surreal being out and about, though. It's so long since I wandered around different parts of London. 

 

1530 still out in Islington, a brief wave of anhedonia/depression/pointlessness 3.... It's like suddenly having an existential crisis (typing this now and laughing because it just seems so WEIRD. Equally weird how quickly it goes) 

 

1630 back at the flat, anxiety back to normal about 1 or 2

1700 supper, spend rest of evening playing games with Coconut, watching tv

2100 really sleepy, go to bed

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Just got myself out to Finsbury Park Park Run again. 5k run. Felt a bit flat before and better after. Running does lift my mood. 

I think I'm noticing a bit of a shift towards wanting to be in the world a little bit more, this month, so small as to be almost imperceptible, but I've seen friends and joined in with Park Run. I think it's a good sign. Gently pushing myself a bit. I've also booked onto a 5 rhythms weekend in February, which I'm really looking forward to. 

Anyway, this is a note to self. I think it's good to notice the small shifts. Then when the crappy days come along, I can look back at this and remind myself that change IS happening. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Saturday 28th December 2019...WD normal kind of day, better in eve

@Gridley, just wondering if you think it would be good to continue with daily notes until a bit more stable? December has still seen some waviness which is probably further from 'WD normal' than I would like. BUT I also had a two day window and a seven day window, which I hope is encouraging. Also, sometimes I feel better after the Venlafaxine and sometimes I have a bit of increased agitation, I'm kind of putting that down to Citalopram WD though, rather than over stimulation by the Ven. What do you reckon? 

Here's to further healing 😊

 

415 awake, too early to get up so listen to some relaxation on youtube

Some depressed thoughts 2/3

 

515 get up anx and dep around 2, feeling a bit flat and have body tremors

 

630 ish breakfast

 

700 Venlafaxine 75mg XR and fish oil 1100mg... Very achey today, muscle tension, gurgly stomach

 

815 looking forward to Park Run, although agitation around 3

 

840 leave for Park Run, background negative thoughts about it being pointless but I ignore them and run.... **End up getting my best time so far, 5k in 34minutes**

Aiming for a 30 minute 5k by the end of 2020

 

1015 back from Park Run and shopping, feeling OK, anxiety about 2, really just background commentary in my mind, easy enough to distract self away from it

 

1230 lunch

 

1330 feeling OK, mind is quieter

 

1500 return from shopping feeling a bit tired and flat

 

1600 from hereon feeling a bit more normal, cooking, eating, generally feeling alright and quite relaxed

 

1830 round about now, lay down on sofa, watching TV, Coconut snoozing next to me, about 1900 put on Body Scan meditation and it sends me to sleep until 2330!

 

2330 wake and am shocked to see the time. I have slept for 4.5 hours! 

 

2345 put myself to bed properly, probably fell asleep around 0000

 

So, a repetitive thought that I have in WD is that I'm alone and a bit isolated. It's true that I have no romantic partner, but I do have friends. I'm going to reach out to them a bit more next year. My siblings are both in care homes, and my elderly parents try to be supportive.... but family are hard work, to be honest. 

Also wondering about some therapy to support me as I stabilise; not really for digging around in past issues, more to help me adapt to and survive how things are right now. 

Also, I miss being part of some kind of community. There's the school community at work, but I'd like to participate in community in my leisure time, too... Haven't had that since WD really struck in 2018. I realise I miss it. I like to participate in something bigger than just me alone. So that's a goal for the NY. 

Would like to get back into the 5 rhythms community a bit more, I miss people there. 

I'm thinking maybe about participating in a running club, as that's something I like to do, and maybe even getting involved in a local gardening/conservation venture. Not all at once though, as the year progresses and the weather improves. Where I'm currently catsitting is a big conservation area, maintained by the London Wildlife Trust, might investigate some volunteering. 

I put my name down for a local allotment last year, wonder if that will come through this year? 

Finally, being around Coconut has reminded me how therapeutic cats can be ❤️ Think I'd like a kitten addition to my home in 2020.

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Also, I just want to say a big thank you again for this site. I've been alone over the Xmas hols and it has really helped me to post every day, even reading other people's experiences and commenting on them has been a good distraction from wobbling around some days. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Sunday 29th December 2019... Was an OK day, WD normal which then improved

Probably fell back to sleep around 0000

 

430 awake but stay in bed, dozing

600 get up, drink tea

630 eat breakfast, preoccupied with WD, Anx and dep around 2, body is twitchy and jerky. Gloomy WD thoughts. Being 'alone' features a lot. 

700 Venlafaxine 75mg XR and 1100mg fish oil

All morning, the miseries hover around 2/3, manage to do meditation but am distracted, also have a brisk walk around nature reserve

 

Around 1200, feeling a bit better, anticipating friend's arrival, anxiety and flat mood still about 2, quite easily tolerable although I feel as if I am communicating with Nat from behind glass, a kind of barrier when she arrives

 

About 1210 she arrives, over the course of the next few hours we eat and talk. I still have symptoms but they gradually tail off and by 1700 anxiety is completely gone. I feel normal, I do my gym exercises, watch TV feeling good ❤️

Go to bed around 2100 to 2130

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hello Sweetie,

 

Sounds like 29th was a decent day if one can look past some of the unpleasant emotional symptoms (which in and of themselves are pretty unpleasant) - but at least you could do some gym exercises, visit with a friend, and anxiety abated after your friend arrived.

 

Somes I think this is anticipatory anxiety (what I call when being nervous about something that is coming up that I may feel somewhat uncomfortable about - and thinking about it instead of just being in the moment). Then when I get in the moment (the friend has arrived) I recover. Note that I found this to be the case on occasion  when I was on the meds (I think).

 

I don't know why we get twitches in our bodies - limbs and the muscles around our eyes. It bothers me too. Serotonin affects most (every) system in our bodies.

 

Thank you for your PMs. Have been thinking of you and glad Christmas passed OK for you. Pat Coconut for me.

 

Hugs,

Guilietta 💗

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Hey @Guilietta  Thanks for your pms, also. Good to hear how you're doing. You lovely people and this place keeps me sane, especially so over the Christmas break! 

Yes, I definitely get anticipatory anxiety at the moment, even about nice things. Gently gently trying to undo the discomfort of seeing people. Once I'm seeing them, it's generally enjoyable and I can ride out any odd symptoms. 

Often feel at the moment like I have the onset of another cold... but I think that's just WD. Also keep falling asleep on the sofa with Coconut. Have given her a stroke for you. She is so snoozy. What a great life she has! 

Just settling down for a night of TV. There's the second part of a documentary on some big cats that Coco and I watched last night. 

 Actually beginning to feel hopeful about 2020. I'm in a window today, that's why. It's been a wobbly holiday, mostly WD normal, only one really bad day, so am grateful for that. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Yes, I definitely get anticipatory anxiety at the moment, even about nice things. 

This is weird right ?

I expérience anxiety about Nice things too!

 

Yes I think that 2020 Will bring us Nice days : even if the end of 2019 was hard, it has brought you lots of improvments! 2020 Will mean more healing, and I'm glad that you believe it too:)

 

Take good care dear 😙

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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1 minute ago, Erell said:

This is weird right ?

I expérience anxiety about Nice things too!

 

Yes I think that 2020 Will bring us Nice days : even if the end of 2019 was hard, it has brought you lots of improvments! 2020 Will mean more healing, and I'm glad that you believe it too:)

 

Take good care dear 😙

It is SO weird, I guess it's our WD brains trying to protect us from danger... thanks @Erell.

 

I'm cosying up with Coconut the cat now. She doesn't have a care in the world, snoozing away all day. 

Sending you good wishes and peace ❤️

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Monday 30th December ❤️ A window today, all day ❤️

 

Awake around 430, 7 hours unbroken sleep, wake up with a headache though

 

530 get up feeling a brighter mood anxiety 1, this goes away

700 Venlafaxine 75mg XR and 1100mg fish oil

 

1215 lunch

1315 lunch part 2

 

Did some cleaning

 

1500 to 1700ish, had a nap, fell asleep during meditation

Bit of snoozing watching TV this evening

2145 bed

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

A window today, all day ❤️

 So glad to read this ! Thank you for sharing it !

 

Wish you a happy and healthy new year ❤️

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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 Very pleased to here you had such a good day. Would you say you feel your normal self on days like this or still feel like it’s wd but very very minor?

 

Hope it continues!

20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 2018

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November 2018

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14 hours ago, Erell said:

 So glad to read this ! Thank you for sharing it !

 

Wish you a happy and healthy new year ❤️

Thanks @Erell, I like to share it with you all as it shows us that healing happens!

 

8 hours ago, Tom37 said:

 Very pleased to here you had such a good day. Would you say you feel your normal self on days like this or still feel like it’s wd but very very minor?

 

Hope it continues!

 

I feel normal, back to myself. I'm not thinking about WD, not unless I come here. Yesterday was good, too, I even went into Central London and did a bit of shopping in Waterstones, Piccadilly! Last night I ate a load of sugar (gotta have shortbread at NY as I don't drink alcohol) and my sleep was disrupted, a bit less good mood this morning. It'll pass, but it shows diet is important, eh? 

 

Thanks both of you, wishing you a Happy and healthy New year as we continue to find stability! We really deserve it ❤️ and I do believe it's coming. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Feeling like that is a really really good sign and hopefully it means stability is around the corner. Hopefully I’ll get to that point someday soon.

 

I use to love going into waterstones in picadilly. Not a huge reader but it’s an awesome store.

 

Hope the good start to the year continues.

 

 

20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 2018

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November 2018

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22 minutes ago, Tom37 said:

Feeling like that is a really really good sign and hopefully it means stability is around the corner. Hopefully I’ll get to that point someday soon.

 

I use to love going into waterstones in picadilly. Not a huge reader but it’s an awesome store.

 

Hope the good start to the year continues.

 

 

Thanks @Tom37, hope your new year beginning now unfolds into a window.

Waterstones Piccadilly is amazing, isn't it? I could buy half the store... Managed to restrain myself to buying a diary. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Notes for Tuesday 31st December ❤️ Another window all day ❤️

 

Sleep has a tendency to be fitful between 4 and 5, dreams wake me up. I'm pretty sure that's the time corresponding to the liver, in Chinese medicine. And I'm spotty at the moment, perhaps my liver is struggling with detoxification from Citalopram WD. Gonna help it out with more pure water. 

 

445 fully awake but remain relaxing in bed

650 get up

700 Venlafaxine and fish oil with breakfast

Very low level anxiety 1/2

 

1000 return from 5k run feeling happy, also did some shopping, anxiety gone and feeling normal normal, not WD normal

1130 feeling really hungry, eat lunch

 

1300 take the tube into Piccadilly, go to Waterstones and buy a 2020 diary, this is a really big deal as I haven't been into Central London since August. Have had a dread of doing so. Its absolutely fine. I enjoy browsing and then I walk from Waterstones to St James' Church, in the heart of Piccadilly and say a prayer for the last decade, for the coming decade. Then I go home. 

 

 

1400 return home, have a bath. 

1600 onwards relax, watch TV, eat, respond to friends' messages.. Lots of shortbread, so very fatty and sugary. Let's see what happens to mood tomorrow. I keep drifting in and out of sleep, so lots of napping, think all the activity has worn me out today. 

 

Can't remember what time I put myself to bed, think it's around 2000.

 

I sleep through til 100 but then upstairs party wakes me up and I go to sleep in a different room. 

 

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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So, I ate TONS of sugar yesterday, pigged out on shortbread. And guess what? This morning, uptick in symptoms. Oh dearie me. Also, completely crashed by about 8pm last night, sugar crash and restless sleep. Oops. Another lesson in what my nervous system can and can't tolerate. 

 

So today, January 1st 2020, am knocking sugar on the head and also, need to reduce caffeine. I have 2 or 3 teas in the morning (Earl Grey, no sugar) and am gonna taper down to one per day, max. 

 

Self care is the priority this decade. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Self care is the priority this decade. 

Exactly,  you are your priority my dear ❤

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Notes for Wednesday 1st January 2020   Sugar hangover in the morning but ❤️ window in the afternoon and rest of the day ❤️

 

Also want to add that I've definitely seen improvements over December. My good days now feel totally 'normal.' And there have been quite a few. Hoping this is a sign that stabilising is not far off.

 

Awake at 4 because I slept so early, stayed in bed til 5, got up at 600

700 breakfast and Venlafaxine 75mg XR and 1100mg fish oil

 

I have a sugar hangover and I spend the morning back in bed, anxiety is about 2 and I'm experiencing an uptick in jerkiness and twitches, heart rate feels a tiny bit faster, very shaky before lunch, blood sugar feels unstable

 

1230 eat a large, carby and proteiny lunch, feeling much better after, anxiety 0 and remains this way, get up and watch TV 

 

1700 did gym exercises

1800 supper

2000 warm bath

2145 bed and sleep

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

My good days now feel totally 'normal

Sounds great, Sunnysideup!

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Sounds great, Sunnysideup!

Yeah, I think it's a promising sign.....thank you! Let's see what happens, and how it continues through January :) In the meantime, hope your January has started well.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Sounds good Sunny!

 

Looks like you can have a decent wi Dow after all;)

 

 

Happy New year!

 

Cheers

 

Jozeff

Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

Apr 2018 -  Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose).

 

2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg

2020  03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold...

2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg /  13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg /  09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg

2022   08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 

2023  hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg

2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg /

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Hey @jozeff, thanks! Happy New Year to you! It's good to get a window...really good....today has been a bit more WD normal, but not bad. Just random moments of wobbliness, feeling strange, feeling sad.

 

I've been away from my flat for the last thirteen days, came home today. Even something as small as that change of location can make me wobble a bit...plus quite a lot of sugary food over NY probably didn't help. Never mind....just gonna take it easy again for the rest of the day, on the move again tomorrow, going to see my parents overnight.

 

How are you doing, was your break ok/ good?

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Interesting...I just read that Citalopram is like a mild antihistamine, which maybe leads to its sedating properties.

 

An excess of histamine can result in hives and eczema skin reactions.

 

Since I switched from Citalopram to Venlafaxine in August, I've had some hives and also a bit of eczema around my eyes. I mean, they COULD be just resulting from stress...but it's interesting it's happened post Citalopram.

I haven't changed my diet apart from cutting out the refined sugar. Am wondering if it's possible that the skin stuff that's happened over the last two months could be because of Citalopram WD ie the Cit put a break on histamine before and now it's not there, I'm getting some rebound skin reaction? 

 

My eyes are certainly opening to the weird things these drugs do to the body.

 

 

(1991 to 2002, assorted recreational drug use in my youth)

2008 to 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, jumped off at 5mg (didn't really cause a problem, was okay after about a month although my CNS must be in chaos)

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg (restarted after an MDMA experience triggered panic attacks/depression)

October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 to 2.5mg, May 2018 used MDMA once and caused bad anxiety (straw broke camel's back)

Forgot to mention; did a panic updose to 10mg on June 11th 2018 as a response to the increased anxiety, this was horrendous, had akisthisia and awful brain zaps, palpitations, dropped back to 5mg after ten days of hell

June 21st 2018 to August 2018 Citalopram 5mg up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments, usually holding for 4 weeks.

June 2019 impatient updose to 20mg side effects really bad diarrhoea and awful agitation. Mood *was* beginning to lift

August 2019 switched to Venlafaxine 75mg XR and holding for as long as it takes

Self help; 20 mins meditation every day, sometimes 10 mins restorative yoga also, also relaxations on youtube, 2x running per week, 2x gym exercises

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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If you have spare good wishes today, please send them. Am visiting parents, which is a bit triggering even when well. Will stay overnight. 

 

Notes for Thursday 2nd January, bit more WD normal today, which I think is slightly improved.

 

Woke at 445, couldn't sleep again but stayed in bed til 6am relaxing, surfing internet etc. Going home today, catsit over. Although I'm only sleeping between 6 and 7 hours, I don't think this is too bad for being in WD. Plus, I don't really feel tired. 

 

 

600 got up, had breakfast

700 Venlafaxine 75mg XR plus 1100mg fish oil. General anxiety today is about 2

830 leaving Coconut and catsitting for home, have enjoyed being here despite initial wobble.

On the tube, on the way home, brief spike of anxiety/ generally feeling a bit displaced and odd, about 3.

 

0945 arrive home, slowly feeling better 

 

Immediately went food shopping, cupboards are bare,slightly tearful (for no discernible  reason) but manageable mood.  Resolved itself fairly quickly, anxiety went away.

 

1230 lunch

Had a strange wave of anxiety after lunch, about 2, decided to do Body Scan meditation around 1400 hours.

 

Fell asleep and woke around 1500 hours. Slight palpitations on waking. Then settled down and anxiety disappeared the rest of the day.

 

1700ish supper

2115 went to bed, read for 15 mins, then lights out. Was a bit restless in change of bed. 

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

If you have spare good wishes today, please send them.

Spare good wishes sent.  I know how sleeping away can be triggering.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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53 minutes ago, Gridley said:

Spare good wishes sent.  I know how sleeping away can be triggering.

Thanks so much @Gridley...oh my gosh, yes it can. Hope you're well.

 

So far so good, today. I'm pretty much WD normal or anxiety/ flatness around 2, lifting more as we go through the day.

 

I'm actually beginning to believe that stabilising is not so far off.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I'm actually beginning to believe that stabilising is not so far off.

This is good news Sunny.  Staying away and family are big triggers and you're managing it girl!  Good on you.

 

Glad the anxiety management reminders are helpful.  I'm reading back through the self help stuff on the site whenever I get chance; while trying not to get obsessed about WD.  

 

Hugs,

Missy 

MissyE

2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013  reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg

2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 

2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose).  No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks).

Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg.  Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold

Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam

Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine

1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid

2 puffs pulmicort inhaler.

This too shall pass.

 

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If I've done it, you'll do it ! ;)❤️

You'll be fine dear one !

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I get the tearful for no apparent reason at times. Other day I went into the supermarket and was feeling fine then all of a sudden it hit while I was getting some bread. Didn’t cry but went from being in normal mood to quite emotional so was a total change in how I was feeling and then it switched back just as fast. That’s when you know it’s wd.

20mg Lexapro 2007

10mg Lexapro 2012

Started tapering approx (October 2017) 12 months ago  from 10mg to 9mg then 8 then 7 then 6 then 5 then 4 then 3.

Held for approx 4 to 6 weeks min on each reduction.

Hit severe symptoms (started 7th Nov) after dropping to 3mg. Dropped to 3mg approx 22nd October.

Back to 4mg (7th November) and stabilising. Current symptoms started 23rd November 2018

Used diazepam (2018) 10mg 10th Nov, 5mg 11th Nov, 2.5mg 12 Nov, 2mg 13th Nov.

Used diazepam 10mg 24th Nov, 7.5 25th Nov and 5mg 26th November 2018

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1 hour ago, Erell said:

If I've done it, you'll do it ! ;)❤️

You'll be fine dear one !

Thank you 😊 So far, so good. Now it's bedtime, it's often a bit odd trying to sleep in a different bed. But especially so in WD.

Brought my running kit for a run in the morning.

Back to London tomorrow afternoon, after lunch. Main concern is the morning anxiety now, but I think it'll be ok. It will have to be. It's actually nice to see my parents and I'm glad I am just staying overnight.

Hope I get a decent sleep but if I can't, I have earbuds and will listen to relaxations etc.

Goodnight all, sleep well.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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