sunnysideup69 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, Songbird said: Life events, such as work stress, can also have a significant effect. Yeah, I think maybe I'm just a bit overtired and stressed, and not sleeping properly. I need to learn some coping techniques, I think, so that my moods don't control my day. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Also, when I'm in a wave such as now, I notice along with the anxiety, I have lots of muscular random twitches as well as the general kind of shivering feeling. It's very weird. It's almost as if I'm in withdrawal, but I'm not WDing, I'm holding. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 21, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) On 5/21/2019 at 8:28 AM, Ruthmcg said: as if I'm in withdrawal, but I'm not WDing, I'm holding I know you've been holding a long time, but there are still going to be withdrawal symptoms in a hold. The withdrawal symptoms you mention are typical. It's when you've stabilized, which mean a steady state of feeling blah (which doesn't mean symptom-free but tolerable with no wide swings in symptoms) that you're ready to start the taper again. Edited December 21, 2019 by Shep updated new member name in text box Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Gridley said: I know you've been holding a long time, but there are still going to be withdrawal symptoms in a hold. The withdrawal symptoms you mention are typical. It's when you've stabilized, which mean a steady state of feeling blah (which doesn't mean symptom-free but tolerable with no wide swings in symptoms) that you're ready to start the taper again. Ah okay. I'm still having withdrawal symptoms, even though I updosed to 10mg back in August. I think that's the bit that has been hard to understand ie that waves are not just when you are technically tapering. They also occur in circumstances such as mine ie trying to stabilise on a reinstatement. I've got you. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Songbird said: Life events, such as work stress, can also have a significant effect. Yep. I'm realising how off balance I still am by my reactions to things that wouldn't really have bothered me before. In fact, I noticed this time last year (before I updosed) that I was over reacting to little things. I had been holding at 2.5mg of cit for about a year at that point. I didn't realise at the time that I was having a delayed withdrawal response, it didn't really hit me until the beginning of that year. Hindsight is a useful thing...at least I know what to expect now. I have woken up feeling a lot calmer today. The last 48 hours, had a really intense wave of anxiety. One thing I've noticed as I've gone along is that I've had a wave pretty much every month since reinstating, and it has lasted about a week. In April, that changed a bit. I've had shorter waves, they don't last as long.Maybe a couple of days, quite intense but then they go again. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 Dear mods or anyone else reading this, I'm wondering if you can post me some links about things I can do for self soothing/ self regulation. This is where I really fall down, I've depended on the drugs so long to do this for me, and whilst I'm still trying to stabilise and pre tapering, I need to start practising. I do have a meditation practice but it's very on and off. I run twice a week and do some strength training, but nothing too strenuous. I'm thinking about perhaps starting up with some gentle Hatha Yoga, I've heard it's very calming to the system. I have acupuncture about once a month, sometimes a longer gap. I'm asking her to do soothing, relaxing treatments now... I keep seeing good tips on here but forgetting where I've seen them. Much obliged, Ruth. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted May 24, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) On 5/23/2019 at 11:18 AM, Ruthmcg said: Dear mods or anyone else reading this, I'm wondering if you can post me some links about things I can do for self soothing/ self regulation. Here's our general topic - lots of links to other topics in here: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms And my favourites - relaxation exercises, and Dr. Claire Weekes: Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis The Dr. Claire Weekes method of recovering from a sensitized nervous system Edited December 21, 2019 by Shep updated to reflect new username in textbox 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Songbird said: Here's our general topic - lots of links to other topics in here: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms And my favourites - relaxation exercises, and Dr. Claire Weekes: Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis The Dr. Claire Weekes method of recovering from a sensitized nervous system Thanks @Songbird...I love Claire Weekes and had forgotten about her. Will be great to check those other things out 🙏 January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
BreathofAir Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) Just checking in and seeing how you are doing and what sort of day you’ve had? I can’t remember whether you’ve had any therapy like counselling or CBT or hypnotherapy. I saw a new counsellor today and she’s given me confidence. My coping and soothing skills need work too. I struggle with meditation, but am hopefully going to restart yoga. Hope you are ok. Always here. Sleep well and keep healing. R xxxxxxx Edited December 20, 2019 by manymoretodays name removed Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia) Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18 Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18 Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. CRASH 24 April 2019 Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly. Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 9 hours ago, BreathofAir said: Just checking in Ruth and seeing how you are doing and what sort of day you’ve had? I can’t remember whether you’ve had any therapy like counselling or CBT or hypnotherapy. I saw a new counsellor today and she’s given me confidence. My coping and soothing skills need work too. I struggle with meditation, but am hopefully going to restart yoga. Hope you are ok. Always here. Sleep well and keep healing. R xxxxxxx Hey Breath of Air, I had a good day. I was able to go about normal things and was really distracted from overthinking. It was sunny here in London, and I sat in the garden, just taking in the smells and the blue sky, and actually feeling happy and content. I live for days like this. They remind me that I'm going to be okay again. This recovery/ stabilising lark is so weird. Tried to do exactly the same things on Thursday and just couldn't tolerate it, had to go back in and sit in the shade. Felt totally flat and depressed. Then had acupuncture, which has set me right again. I trained as a psychotherapist, and as a result, have had years of therapy, which really helped before when I was depressed. Now it's a bit different. I feel like I need someone who understands what psych drugs can do to the brain and is on board with the whole notion of withdrawal syndrome. I'd quite like to find an antidepressant survivors group, also. Maybe it's a case of starting one.... Am so glad your counsellor was good. I'm a big advocate for talking therapy. Is your therapy CBT based? Yes, meditation can be tricky at times like these. I use an app called Headspace, it has different packs of meditations and I'm working through one called ' letting go of stress.' It's more of a visualisation, which I find easier to do in my current position. How was your day? Beginning yoga again sounds like a really good idea, something gentle like Hatha Yoga? Are you able to do any of the relaxation exercises on YouTube....am gonna give them a go.... Sending you good wishes for a better day today 😊 January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Dear mods, Since I joined here a couple of weeks ago, and really started to pay attention to myself, I've become aware of how much I go through ups and downs still. I think usually, work distracts me. I'm on holiday at the moment. I've been back on one dose for 9 months now, and I do recognise that I'm a lot better. However, is it unusual to be still wobbling around a bit? Or even to have crappy months so far into the restabilisation process? I'd love to chat to anyone in a similar situation ie someone who updosed and then took a long time to settle. Just looking for a bit of reassurance here, am having a slightly weird mini wave this afternoon....oddly, this sometimes seems to happen after I've eaten a big meal, just had lunch. ( Eat really healthily though.) On a more positive note, yesterday I felt really happy and contented, and I'm going out dancing later. Kind of grieving my old life of drinking prossecco, but it's gone. Apologies for being a whinger, sometimes it just helps to vent. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 25, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) On 5/25/2019 at 9:54 AM, Ruthmcg said: I've been back on one dose for 9 months now, and I do recognise that I'm a lot better. However, is it unusual to be still wobbling around a bit? Or even to have crappy months so far into the restabilisation process? It is very encouraging that you're doing better and a sign that the updose is working. You are still stabilizing, so ups and downs are to be expected. Edited December 21, 2019 by Shep updated new member name in text box Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gridley said: It is very encouraging that you're doing better and a sign that the updose is working. You are still stabilizing, so ups and downs are to be expected. Thank you ...forcing myself outside now. Too much introspection doesn't help. I'm just impatient with myself. Very grateful for everyone's support here. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 Ok, am gonna post something positive instead of ruminating. Or rather, am gonna ruminate on good things. I realise I need to change the channel at times. Here are some of the things that have gone well since updosing to 10mg last August. 1. Have started a new part-time, permanent teaching job.Most days, I manage to get to it. 2. I have a really caring boss, to whom I've managed to speak really candidly lately about what's going on for me. I have school's support. 3. Have taken the positive step of reaching out on this forum. 4. Have a steady workout routine of 2x running and 2x strength training per week. 5. I've mostly eliminated 'added sugar' from my diet, and gluten, occasional treats allowed. 6. I've opened up to friends about current struggle. Am still seeing friends, even if I don't feel great. 7. Have quit alcohol, was only ever an occasional drinker anyway but have realised in my current condition, it causes me to crash. Proud of myself for this. 8. Have eliminated a particularly toxic 'relationship' from my life. 9. Have moved into my own housing association place and have nearly finished furnishing it. Got some veggies growing in the communal garden, and some sunflowers sprouting out the front. 10. Started counselling with school kids, in spite of my own struggles, and am really seeing it have a positive impact. 11. I can still laugh at ridiculous things. 12. Some days, I actually feel happy and content. A glimmer of my truer nature coming through. I think I'm gonna print this out and stick it where I can see it every day. An insight; yesterday, I was remembering how, even when I started taking ads in 2008, I still had windows and waves when settling. I didn't really settle on them for about a year- who knows if that was the drugs, or if that was just my anxiety/depression lifting of its own accord. Probably a bit of both. They largely worked because I believed they would. Now I have to invest that belief in myself and my own capacity to heal. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Mentor RichT Posted May 26, 2019 Mentor Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) On 5/26/2019 at 3:31 AM, Ruthmcg said: Ok, am gonna post something positive instead of ruminating. Or rather, am gonna ruminate on good things. I realise I need to change the channel at times. Here are some of the things that have gone well since updosing to 10mg last August. 1. Have started a new part-time, permanent teaching job.Most days, I manage to get to it. 2. I have a really caring boss, to whom I've managed to speak really candidly lately about what's going on for me. I have school's support. 3. Have taken the positive step of reaching out on this forum. 4. Have a steady workout routine of 2x running and 2x strength training per week. 5. I've mostly eliminated 'added sugar' from my diet, and gluten, occasional treats allowed. 6. I've opened up to friends about current struggle. Am still seeing friends, even if I don't feel great. 7. Have quit alcohol, was only ever an occasional drinker anyway but have realised in my current condition, it causes me to crash. Proud of myself for this. 8. Have eliminated a particularly toxic 'relationship' from my life. 9. Have moved into my own housing association place and have nearly finished furnishing it. Got some veggies growing in the communal garden, and some sunflowers sprouting out the front. 10. Started counselling with school kids, in spite of my own struggles, and am really seeing it have a positive impact. 11. I can still laugh at ridiculous things. 12. Some days, I actually feel happy and content. A glimmer of my truer nature coming through. I think I'm gonna print this out and stick it where I can see it every day. An insight; yesterday, I was remembering how, even when I started taking ads in 2008, I still had windows and waves when settling. I didn't really settle on them for about a year- who knows if that was the drugs, or if that was just my anxiety/depression lifting of its own accord. Probably a bit of both. They largely worked because I believed they would. Now I have to invest that belief in myself and my own capacity to heal. Well done Ruth! Edited December 21, 2019 by Shep updated new member name in text box ✅ = medication taken now 2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg 2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅ 2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅2018 March Abilify 5mg 2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off 2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out 2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅ 2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg 2022 October began taper of Abilify Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 @RichT thank you, how are you doing? God, we have to remind ourselves of the things that are going well, eh? Because I know that when I'm in a crash, I forget about all of this so easily. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Mentor RichT Posted May 26, 2019 Mentor Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) Hi, i’m still recovering from a stressful week, feeling tired, achy, and ill, but there are some good signs. I’m sticking with it. yes, it’s important to stress the positives! Rich Edited December 20, 2019 by manymoretodays name removed ✅ = medication taken now 2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg 2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅ 2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅2018 March Abilify 5mg 2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off 2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out 2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅ 2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg 2022 October began taper of Abilify Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, RichT said: Hi Ruth, i’m still recovering from a stressful week, feeling tired, achy, and ill, but there are some good signs. I’m sticking with it. yes, it’s important to stress the positives! Rich Good on ya! Sorry to hear it's been stressful and yes, I empathise. You're in London, I see. Wondering if you know of any support groups for people coping with the 'joys' of antidepressants...? I'm meeting another such person (from a forum) in June and we are looking for such a group, or maybe even thinking about starting one. I'm really glad you're seeing good signs. I hope you're able to get some enjoyment out of bank holiday And thank you for your comment. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted May 27, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) Good morning Sorry for not responding last night but was not feeling great and to be honest I could not believe we were struggling with Breathofair again. Just as she seemed to be getting somewhere. I keep intending to read your thread but seem to get drawn elsewhere. Nothing personal but I am male, so easily distracted🤣. Are you off work today if so have a good one. Long distance hug to you. Speak soon. Sassenach Edited December 20, 2019 by manymoretodays name removed Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
Mentor RichT Posted May 27, 2019 Mentor Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) On 5/26/2019 at 8:57 AM, Ruthmcg said: Good on ya! Sorry to hear it's been stressful and yes, I empathise. You're in London, I see. Wondering if you know of any support groups for people coping with the 'joys' of antidepressants...? I'm meeting another such person (from a forum) in June and we are looking for such a group, or maybe even thinking about starting one. I'm really glad you're seeing good signs. I hope you're able to get some enjoyment out of bank holiday And thank you for your comment. Hi Ruth, I don't know of a group i’m afraid warm wishes, Rich Edited December 21, 2019 by Shep updated new member name in text box ✅ = medication taken now 2007 quetiapine to March 2019 200mg 2019 quetiapine March to present 225mg ✅ 2007 citalopram to present 40mg ✅2018 March Abilify 5mg 2019 Abilify February rapid taper over 3 weeks from 5mg to off 2019 March Clonazepam as required, taken very occasionally, then taken 0.5mg for 2 days 28th and 29th March, now phased out 2019 1st April reinstated Abilify 0.5mg / day ✅ 2018 to 2020 Liquid B12 2g twice daily (diagnosed B12 deficiency) 2020 July reduced quetiapine to 200mg 2022 October began taper of Abilify Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Thanks @RichT, Might have to start one. Will have a chat with my friend. Best wishes to you, Ruth January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Sassenach said: Good morning Ruth Sorry for not responding last night but was not feeling great and to be honest I could not believe we were struggling with Breathofair again. Just as she seemed to be getting somewhere. I keep intending to read your thread but seem to get drawn elsewhere. Nothing personal but I am male, so easily distracted🤣. Are you off work today if so have a good one. Long distance hug to you. Speak soon. Sassenach Thanks so much Sassenach, have only just seen this...I get a bit lost in these threads sometimes. Just posted on your thread, in fact, sorry you've been having some bad days. Likewise, last week was very up and down. Been off work today, on half term this week and don't go back until next Monday. It's good to have the break, feel like May has been tough. Looking forward to feeling better again. Long distance hug to you, too x PS I am half Scots, dad hails from Glasgae. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
BreathofAir Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) Hi , Sorry to be late with this, as I know you like to get off to bed. I just wanted to wish you a good night and thank you for your message. And to apologise for being so draining. I think I make Sassenach very cross and I don’t wish to do that. I appreciate all your time and advice very much. I hope you have a much more even month coming up and things really pick up for you. Bless you and hope you sleep well and heal well. R xxxxxx Edited December 20, 2019 by manymoretodays name removed Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia) Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18 Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18 Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. CRASH 24 April 2019 Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly. Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 @BreathofAir Hi Rachel, you are not draining to me. Honestly. It's good to chat. Thank you for your good wishes.It really does help to share with people who understand and are in a similar position. May has been a difficult month for me, mostly waves,unfortunately. Just keeping the faith that things will level out again. What a flippin journey this is. Having people to talk to here is just so helpful. How are you feeling today? January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Dear moderators, Would really appreciate your thoughts. I think this is just my anxious brain looking for outside reassurance, trying to also self soothe, but any ideas from you would surely help. May has been horrible, and I'm a bit scared. My reinstatemnet last August finally seemed to be working in March and April, and this month I feel as if I have gone backwards a bit. Seem to be getting worse side effects eg muscle twitching and some of that 'start up' anxiety. Is it possible that the citalopram has 'pooped out' for me, or is it likely just to be a wave? I should add that I'm still functioning in the world, but just feeling dreadful as I go about it. I'm a jittery wreck this month. Also wondering whether acupuncture is somehow agitating my response, although she knows I have heightened anxiety and has been doing 'soothing' treatments. Deep down, I know this is probably a wave but I'm a bit scared as it seems like a longer one this time, and my logical mind feels as if they should be getting shorter, not longer. Thanks again for your support. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 28, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) On 5/28/2019 at 2:20 AM, Ruthmcg said: or is it likely just to be a wave? Given that you had two good months, it sounds like a wave to me. There are going to be ups and downs. I would hold steady. I notice in your signature you take a B-complex. In withdrawal, B-complex can be activating (cause anxiety). Edited December 21, 2019 by Shep updated new member name in text box Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg Taper is 90% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Gridley said: Given that you had two good months, it sounds like a wave to me. There are going to be ups and downs. I would hold steady. Thanks Gridley. I also had a chat with acupuncturist today. I realised that in Jan/Feb/Mar I was having weekly or biweekly acupuncture sessions...I think that's how I managed to be steady for so long, it was really helping. I dropped to one a month in April and this month....think I'm gonna resume weekly, as it definitely seemed to help. The past 24 hours have been intensely anxious, had awful sleep......got up today and went for a run. Am now in a window again this afternoon. I agree.....it does seem like windows/waves. It's too easy to be tempted to throw petrol on the fire ie increase, but I'm not gonna do that, am gonna sit this out and go back to supportive acupunc sessions. Thanks so much for patiently answering whilst I wobble around this month x January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Gridley said: I notice in your signature you take a B-complex. In withdrawal, B-complex can be activating (cause anxiety). Oh, really? That's very interesting....I might experiment with not taking it and see what happens. Still intending to get fish oil. I made the mistake of taking rhodiola back in October, an adaptogen, at quite high dose, and that sent me through the roof.....even though I have successfully taken it before. So I guess I could be oversensitive to the b complex. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
puthappinessfirst Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hi Ruth, Definitely agree that it sounds like a wave, especially since you had some solid months of stability. The waves are super frustrating though, arent they? You're doing great! Celexa 10mg: 2007 to June 2018, stopped CT No meds: June 2018 to December 2018 PROTRACTED WD-- major depressive episode for 2+ weeks Lexapro 10mg: December 12, 2018 to January 19, 2019, severe adverse reaction Celexa 10mg: January 20, 2019 June 24, 2019: 9mg July 22, 2019: 8.5mg Jan 8, 2020: 8mg Aug 25, 2020: 7.2mg Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, puthappinessfirst said: Hi Ruth, Definitely agree that it sounds like a wave, especially since you had some solid months of stability. The waves are super frustrating though, arent they? You're doing great! Thanks so much for the comment. Just looking back thru my notes and I realise that January and most of Feb was pretty good, too........so, the dreaded wave it is. How you doing? January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted May 29, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) good morning. Is it sunny in the big smoke? Some good help for Rachel from you, makes me realise how lucky I am. You are about six months ahead of me so watching your progress closely. How does it feel to be the Guinea Pig ( a cute one of course ). I realise we are all different but is helps when yo see someone improving. Don't work too hard. From the cloudy north. Sassenach Edited December 20, 2019 by manymoretodays name removed Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 @Sassenach Good morning, good to get up to your message. Thanks so much for your kind words. I hope you realise how much you yourself help people with your thoughtful comments Well, the sun is attempting to peek out through the clouds here, dare I even think it feels a tiny bit warmer. Hahaha, I don't mind being a guinea pig at all! It really does help to see people improve....hoping today is a better day for you, too. I'm going to get myself out for a walk around the park now. Since I started typing this, the sun has gone in again....but am needing the daylight. Planning on a chilled out kind of a day, hoping my nervous system cooperates, but if it doesn't, will just have to roll with it. The last 9 months have certainly provided opportunities to practice patience.... Sending good wises, Ruth. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just making a note for myself, to see if this is a repeating pattern. Last two times I've had acupuncture, by day 4/5 afterwards, I have an anxiety and depression 'spike', it seems to peak for 24 hours and then go away gradually. I know acupuncture works on the nervous system; I wonder if it affects neurotransmitter levels, which then affect mood? Also, have noticed that a wave is usually preceeded by feeling intensely cold, even on a warm day- thermo dysreguation seems to come before the rollercoaster moods. I'm in a window this afternoon. This morning wasn't bad, just a minor bit of anxiety and fleeting depression, then around about 11 am, it was as if a switch just flipped 'on' in my head and I was interested in things again. Utterly strange, but I'm using the clear headed time to get some admin done. January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Sassenach Posted May 29, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 29, 2019 Jam the switch on if you can find it, and if you can tell the rest of us. Are you still getting head fog 8 months in? I only ask because I want to visit my parents about 3 hours away but don't feel fit to drive the distance because of head fog and disturbed vision. Have a good evening and even better day tomorrow. Sassenach Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018 Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018 Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018 Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs. Updosed 8March to 5mgs and holding 25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum Link to comment
BreathofAir Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) Hi , I find acupuncture spikes me also, depending on what points are used. It just seems to adrenalise me, but worked wonders when I was tapering last year. I am sure your acupuncturist will be using tonification points, but you definitely need a bit of spleen 9, if you haven’t had it already. It always helps me. Yes acupuncture can affect mood. I am good friends with a very knowledgeable practitioner. Maybe also try moxa sticks on your hands. It’s very restful. Just don’t burn yourself. You can get them online. You want the small ones, not the chimney pot size! Keep talking to your switch that it’s now fixed in the “on”position and the off button has unfortunately snapped off. I am reading about suggestion. I wish I could watch TV just for a little while, but still a no-no right now. I know reading is better for me. Hope you sleep well tonight. I have a stinking Escitalopram speciality headache. Feel like I’ve been thumped on the head. 🤕 Take care, bless you and praying for more healing to come your way. Sleep tight. R xxxxxxxxx Edited December 20, 2019 by manymoretodays name removed Pantoprazole 40mg 2016 to 2019 Mirtazapine 15mg May to Aug 2017 (Akathisia) Seroquel and Abilify July 2017 (caused itching and SI) stopped immediately Lorazepam July 2017 to February 2018 (up to 3mg daily) tapered to 1mg by Feb ‘18 Escitalopram 20mg Aug 2017 to 18 April 2019 tapered over 13 months from Feb 2018 Diazepam crossed over from Lorazepam 1mg to 10mg tapered to 1mg by June ‘18 Updosed back to 2mg bad crash June 2018 . Restarted taper Dec 2018 to present April 2019 reached 0.15mg Diazepam and was holding. CRASH 24 April 2019 Severe suicidal feelings, anxiety, akathisia started suddenly. Updosed Diazepam immediately to 0.5mg x 2, up again to 1mg x 2 on April 30th Zopiclone 7.5mg 3rd May for 1 week RI Escitalopram at 2.5mg on 6th May, inc to 5mg 9th May then 10mg by mistake on 21st May, red to 7.5mg 27th May Updosed to 10mg per pysch team 5th July. Lorazepam fully switched to Diazepam 11mg 5th July Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Hey @Sassenach 12 hours ago, Sassenach said: Jam the switch on if you can find it, and if you can tell the rest of us. Are you still getting head fog 8 months in? I only ask because I want to visit my parents about 3 hours away but don't feel fit to drive the distance because of head fog and disturbed vision. Have a good evening and even better day tomorrow. Sassenach Good morning from damp London. Hoping the day is starting better where you are. Oh gosh, I wish I could jam that switch on...... however, I did have a much better day yesterday. Anxiety has calmed down again. Went out for a long walk in the park and did some strength training. Movement definitely helps calm down my anxiety. I think the head fog has lessened a lot, the last time it happened was at work about 2 months ago when a colleague asked me something really simple and I was just totally confused.... Sometimes however I really can't think 'straight', as it were. But it's definitely a lot better. That weird blurred vision has cleared right up, too. This is something for you to look forward to 😊 I'm off to meet a friend for coffee this morning, (well, herbal tea for me 😝) - her daughter was on citalopram for years and is now successfully off. Want to find out how she achieved it. Wishing you a good day, Sassenach. By the way, I am half Scots. Can't remember if I told you that before.... my dad hails from Glasgow. Talk very soon x January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
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