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2 hours ago, Giulietta said:

 

Brilliant idea! I had no connection between stress and oil production. ;) How did you learn this nugget?

 

Let us know how it goes. I wish you good luck.

 

 

 

I accidentally found a paper online about antidepressants and acne....about how they can affect HPA axis. Thank you, will be interesting to see if it works......

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Giulietta
7 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

about how they can affect HPA axis

 

HPA = ?

 

That is a few pay grades above me....

 

I hope it works well for you. Let me know how it works.

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8 hours ago, Giulietta said:

 

HPA = ?

 

That is a few pay grades above me....

 

I hope it works well for you. Let me know how it works.

 

I think it means hypothalamus, adrenal, pituitary axis......I'm about a week into cutting out the fish oil and my skin feels drier; so far, no new outbreaks. So, it will be interesting to see if they are triggered by stress episodes, or if I was simply getting too much oil, considering I eat oily fish two or three times a week?

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Erell

Hello dear, 

 

quickly passing by to give you hugs ❤️

 

It's unlikely you're getting too much oil if you were taking it 2 or three times a week ( by the way, better to stay regular with supplements too ;) ) : in mg, how many were you taking?

But, as you know, we can be very sensitive to supplements too. You'll see how you do without fish oil ;)

 

Thinking of you, take care ❤️

 

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sunnysideup69
22 hours ago, Erell said:

Hello dear, 

 

quickly passing by to give you hugs ❤️

 

It's unlikely you're getting too much oil if you were taking it 2 or three times a week ( by the way, better to stay regular with supplements too ;) ) : in mg, how many were you taking?

But, as you know, we can be very sensitive to supplements too. You'll see how you do without fish oil ;)

 

Thinking of you, take care ❤️

 

 

Hey lovely, hugs really appreciated ❤️

 

What I meant was; I was taking 1100mg fish oil EVERY DAY and also eating oily fish 2-3 times per week. I think that might have been overload....cos we know we can become oversensitive during WD, even to 'good' supplements.

 

Well, about a week now of no fish oil and my skin is dry. Let's now see what happens.

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On 3/27/2020 at 3:13 AM, sunnysideup69 said:

Well, about a week now of no fish oil and my skin is dry. Let's now see what happens.

 

Hi Sweetie,

 

Sounds like there may be a relationship between the two? ;) 

 

How is your complexion?

 

How are things with your family?

 

Hugs,

G

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11 hours ago, Giulietta said:

 

Hi Sweetie,

 

Sounds like there may be a relationship between the two? ;) 

 

How is your complexion?

 

How are things with your family?

 

Hugs,

G

 

Just sent you a pm, my lovely. Gonna give it another week off the fish oil and see if there's really any difference. My skin is greasy again this morning. I'm beginning to think it's NOT the fish oil, it's 'just WD.' Aaaaargh. I think I just have to wait for my skin to re regulate. So, am still dissatisfied with my complexion, it seems unfair to be feeling wobbly on both the inside AND outside but, it'll sort itself out.

Also, gonna work on my microbiome, eat some more fermented foods, more fresh fruit and veggies. Pro and prebiotics.

I think temporarily, the drug switching has ruined my skin BUT, it is temporary. Trying to stay off the sugar, but I did succumb to a small Easter egg yesterday.

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Hello Survivors,

A quick update from me. Hoping this finds you all well and coping in these crazy times.

Well, am not really back to my usual baseline. Have had very anxious mornings this week, started on Monday. But the anxiety tends to dissipate as the day goes on. I'm getting more in the way of palpitations at the moment and more physical feelings of anxiety. Needless to say, the isolation of living alone is sometimes not helping...probably having more walks than I am allowed....because it shifts the energy a bit for me. I'm very shaky, physically. On Tuesday, it will be about two weeks since I quit my fish oil capsules. I thought they might be aggravating my skin, but to be honest I've still got spots, so am resuming them again tomorrow. I think they do help to calm me.

My sleep is a bit all over the place, too. I feel a bit dysregulated with sleep, routine, diet....need to really focus on that, next week. Had some work hassle last week, too, which added stress. Plus, my brother is now not eating or drinking very much at all, so it looks like he probably has a week or so left, maybe two.

 

HOWEVER, some positives. I think that staying at home to work is good for me at the moment as it takes me out of the chaos of school. I've realised that school is very disorganised and that communication is very unclear. That is a BIG anxiety trigger for me, at the moment, and generally, too. In the long run, I'm not sure if it's the best place for me to work, but am not making hasty decisions as I know I'm also in WD and less tolerant than usual. Realising all of this is a step forward because I know what I want to create, going forward.

It's good not having to get up and get the tube to work every day. I can do things at my own pace and that in itself is less stressful.

It's been really nice to talk to friends via zoom/ Whatsapp etc.

All in all, although there's stress, I reckon my body is getting a physical break from not trekking into work three days a week. I miss the children, though. Children really ground me, as they are very 'in the moment.'

I'm learning about myself. I'm learning that it's very easy for my mind to turn in on itself during withdrawal, and that it's actually quite an effort to stop it. However, this is ultimately making me stronger as a person because I'm learning more and more to say to myself 'I am not my thoughts. They are just thoughts.'

 

Those are my thoughts for today. Gonna catch up on your threads today, peeps. I'm gonna meditate and do legs up wall yoga, then I'm going out to pay a cheque into bank. Will come home and see how you all are Sending love and copious online hugs to you all xxxxx

 

 

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7 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

My skin is greasy again this morning. I'm beginning to think it's NOT the fish oil, it's 'just WD.' Aaaaargh. I think I just have to wait for my skin to re regulate

 

Could be - just like all the symptoms - some come and go - and maybe your skin nis the same.

 

5 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

zoom

 

what is zoom? Do you need a webcam? I've heard htis mentioned - is it like skype or facetime? Clearly I am behind the times....

 

5 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

d that it's actually quite an effort to stop it. However, this is ultimately making me stronger as a person because I'm learning more and more to say to myself 'I am not my thoughts. They are just thoughts.'

 

Correct - it takes training your mind andd a lot of practice. We have control over this and we can lealrn.  I think overcoming the physical symptoms may be more difficult (certainly when they present themselves for time immemorial!).

 

I'm sorry you miss th ekiddos. They do keep you in the moment and their bright little faces andpersonalities lift the spirits.

 

Your mood seems bright, which is a nice ting to hear. ;)

 

Hugs,

G.

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Also just realised that, since this whole WD/swapping meds thing started, I've somehow gained half a stone! Aaaargh! I'm still exercising the same and also eating the same....although maybe I have gone a bit heavy on the cashew nut butter.....so am gonna be watching myself so I don't put on any more. I'm not overweight, but I don't need to gain any more.......

@Giulietta, yes, zoom is an online meeting platform. It's quite good! My mood is okay, mostly around WD normal with some odd waves of anxiety/ depression here and there. 

 

I'm thinking about getting a kitten, in other news. I think I could do with some company. Not sure when it's gonna happen, but I think it will.

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2 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I've somehow gained half a stone! Aaaargh! I'm still exercising the same and also eating the sam

 

I commiserate ;) I have as well - clothes too tight and I believe I am eating more of calorie dense foods and those lower in fiber (means less calories in general). Being in the house all the time makees this harder.  Maybe try to stay out of the kitchen?

 

2 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

'm thinking about getting a kitten, in other news. I think I could do with some company. Not sure when it's gonna happen, but I think it will.

 

Isn't that nice! Keep us posted. 🐈

 

Hope you are well ,

 

Hugs,

G.

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Hey Sunnyside, just read your thread posted on Sunday. I can understand how living alone can fuel retreating into your own mind. It seems you’ve remedied this well by talking to friends via different apps. Socializing, at any capacity at all, is definitely a very healthy distraction for all of us.

I’m interested in your comments about your work. Seems like you accept where you are with it all, but think maybe down the line you might have to take some other avenue to limit stress/chaos. I’m sure you’ll come to the decision you need to when the time comes. Whether that is shifting gears or sticking with working in a school. 

 

that’s I too am not overweight, but am also not totally satisfied with my physique/level of physical activity. I think a lot of that just comes with the territory of all of this. More concessions and more things to accept. That being said, I’m sure it’ll all get better, and better over time. Hope all is well, sunnyside. Seems like you’re in pretty good spirits, all things considered. 
 

Again, so sorry about your brother. If you ever need another friend to talk to/vent to about it all, I’d be more than willing to listen. Peace and love.

 

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Hi lovely Sunny.  Sorry to read about your brother. That's so sad.

 

I notice how easily I fall off the wagon when the **** hits the fan. Totally resonates.  

 

I'm struggling too with the cumulative stress of life events, the lockdown effing up my routine (l know "we're all in this together" but the general population aren't in WD) and even more family stuff, that with like you stirs up toxic memories. 

 

I'm trying to get back into nervous system regulation, but the anxiety has started me feeling helpless again. 

 

We need to remember we're safe now.

 

I'm thinking of you and sending my love to you through our universal energy.

Missy x

 

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Giulietta

Hello Sunny

 

How are you doing? And family?

 

Are you at work? Any update on a kitty?

 

Thinking of you

 

G.

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Hello all, have been quiet for the last eleven days. Have had a really rough time, interestingly NOT in terms of WD, although that may flare up.

 

My brother died on Sunday 5th April . We knew in February it was coming, but still, it's very sad when it actually happens, especially as we couldn't be there (his care home is closed to the public, understandably.) However, that's not the end...

We then received the news on Monday 6th April that my sister had also died in hospital that morning. Unbelievable.

To cut a very long story short, she has been in a care home for the last three years, she had epilepsy, arthritis and had two operations, one on each knee, from which she never recovered the ability to walk. She was quite a large person and that didn't help her mobility or recovery. She then somehow had an accident which damaged her neck and subsequently, her hands. So, her body has been shutting down for some time. She was taken into hospital with a 'respiratory infection' on Sunday evening and died on Monday. She was tested for the dreaded virus but it came back negative. I think her body just gave up.

 

It's been a huge shock. Losing both siblings, trying to comfort parents from a distance. Incredibly, so far, WD symptoms haven't ramped up too much, but there's still time.....plus I've been eating and sleeping badly over the last week. Time to reign it in again now. Just trying to keep going until the funerals at the end of the month...

 

And sending love to you all out there ❤️❤️❤️ 

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So sorry for your losses. 

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Thinking of you Sunny xxxxx

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That is such sad news.   Thinking of you Sunny a d sending hugs X

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@brassmonkey, @Cocopuffz17 and @MissyE , @Giulietta and @Junglechicken

 

Thanks so much guys. It's why I've been a bit quiet of late. What a year so far!

 

However, so far, no wave....seem to be relatively stable on the Venlafaxine. I know when we got the news of my brother's terminal status in Feb, It took about two weeks before a wave crashed in. However, I'm gonna dig into those coping techniques as much as possible right now.Also been having some bereavement counselling anyway, which I have found quite steadying. 

 

Oh and also, skin. As you know, three months on the dot after ceasing Citalopram, skin problems started. Some good news here, nearly 5 months into that issue, the eczema has cleared up from around my eyes. And the left side of my face, where all the spottiness began, is slowly clearing...hopefully the right side will follow suit. My skin seems to be calming down, even in the light of these recent stresses...hooray! And my stomach is less painful. Not really the time to think about tapering....but I may well be able to begin, this year.

 

Hugs to you guys, too. Sending much love in these weird times ❤️ Gonna spend a bit of time today catching up on threads here. 

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Giulietta

Hi Sunny,

 

My heartfelt condolences to you and your parents about the loss of your siblings. Even though the loss is anticipated - the event is no less sad or emotionally debilitating.  Both are at peace. I hope there is some solace in that for you.

 

On the other hand - it seems WD for you - in spite of the sadness and the despair and madness of the virus - is steady. I'm glad to hear that your complexion is clearing up and tummy feeling better.

 

Much love to you.

 

Hugs,

G

 

 

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On 4/11/2020 at 5:16 AM, sunnysideup69 said:

Hello all, have been quiet for the last eleven days. Have had a really rough time, interestingly NOT in terms of WD, although that may flare up.

 

My brother died on Sunday 5th April . We knew in February it was coming, but still, it's very sad when it actually happens, especially as we couldn't be there (his care home is closed to the public, understandably.) However, that's not the end...

We then received the news on Monday 6th April that my sister had also died in hospital that morning. Unbelievable.

To cut a very long story short, she has been in a care home for the last three years, she had epilepsy, arthritis and had two operations, one on each knee, from which she never recovered the ability to walk. She was quite a large person and that didn't help her mobility or recovery. She then somehow had an accident which damaged her neck and subsequently, her hands. So, her body has been shutting down for some time. She was taken into hospital with a 'respiratory infection' on Sunday evening and died on Monday. She was tested for the dreaded virus but it came back negative. I think her body just gave up.

 

It's been a huge shock. Losing both siblings, trying to comfort parents from a distance. Incredibly, so far, WD symptoms haven't ramped up too much, but there's still time.....plus I've been eating and sleeping badly over the last week. Time to reign it in again now. Just trying to keep going until the funerals at the end of the month...

 

And sending love to you all out there ❤️❤️❤️ 

So sorry for your loses Sunny so very hard to lose a sibling . My brother passed away unexpected  in 2013 and it hit me very hard. It does get better and now I can look back and smile with great fondness at the time we spent together growing up. 

thinking of you 

LRH 

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Dear @Giulietta, @Longroadhome and @Erell,

Thank you all so very much xxxxx

 

Didn't get round to reading all your updates yesterday. Am going out for a walk just now, will have a read of your updates today.

Had some wonky moments yesterday, but hanging in there xxxxx

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2 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Dear @Giulietta, @Longroadhome and @Erell,

Thank you all so very much xxxxx

 

Didn't get round to reading all your updates yesterday. Am going out for a walk just now, will have a read of your updates today.

Had some wonky moments yesterday, but hanging in there xxxxx

Nature and walking is very therapeutic 

if you need to talk please do 

take care Sunny 

LRH 

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Giulietta

Hi Sunny

 

You come first! Walking, etc - whatever helps you feel better. That this is a rough time is an understatement. I'm glad yesterday was Easter because we have plenty of chcolate around, inclulding mini cadbury chocolate eggs. ;)

 

Hugs,

G

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I thought I'd do a general update...am gonna catch up on threads here today. Taking it easy at home, cooking, resting, gonna do a Whatsapp chat with a friend this afternoon and do some gym exercises in the garden.

 

Anyway, all things considered, I'm not doing too badly. I'm grieving, so a bit weepy, but that feels good, to be honest. Good to actually cry rather than feel numb.

 

I'm now in month 8 of stabilising on Venlafaxine. WD at the moment hasn't cranked up too much after double bereavement, which is a bit of a miracle.  I'm not really at the WD normal baseline of back in January, which was generally pretty good. However, neither am I in a terrible state. I'm in a kind of milder state of having gone back to increased morning anxiety, with occasional 'meaninglessness' moments washing over me. So, some definite uptick in WD symptoms over Feb/March/ April so far. Basically, the time since learning of my brother's 'end stage cancer' prognosis and losing my sister to a mystery 'respiratory infection, not Covid.' So, the uptick in symptoms seems entirely understandable and are causing me less panic than a wave simply appearing randomly.

Oh, but I ate really badly (sugary ) last week and my skin has flared up again, really spotty. So I think a clean diet is the way to go for me, at them moment.

In fact, the last bad wave I had, lasting ten days, was right at the beginning of March.

 

My sleep is okay, must be getting between seven and eight hours sleep, albeit broken. Am also loving not having to get up and go into work, looks unlikely that schools will go back until September so am taking the time to grieve, rest, reset. Some days, isolation feels a bit lonely, but I've also been video chatting with friends. I have online therapy once a week, which has helped me stay afloat.

Overall, not doing too badly, but tapering plans are really on hold right now. I'll consider again at the end of summer. I'd like at least three, maybe six months of relative stability under my belt before attempting a taper. 

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1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I thought I'd do a general update...am gonna catch up on threads here today. Taking it easy at home, cooking, resting, gonna do a Whatsapp chat with a friend this afternoon and do some gym exercises in the garden.

 

Anyway, all things considered, I'm not doing too badly. I'm grieving, so a bit weepy, but that feels good, to be honest. Good to actually cry rather than feel numb.

 

I'm now in month 8 of stabilising on Venlafaxine. WD at the moment hasn't cranked up too much after double bereavement, which is a bit of a miracle.  I'm not really at the WD normal baseline of back in January, which was generally pretty good. However, neither am I in a terrible state. I'm in a kind of milder state of having gone back to increased morning anxiety, with occasional 'meaninglessness' moments washing over me. So, some definite uptick in WD symptoms over Feb/March/ April so far. Basically, the time since learning of my brother's 'end stage cancer' prognosis and losing my sister to a mystery 'respiratory infection, not Covid.' So, the uptick in symptoms seems entirely understandable and are causing me less panic than a wave simply appearing randomly.

Oh, but I ate really badly (sugary ) last week and my skin has flared up again, really spotty. So I think a clean diet is the way to go for me, at them moment.

In fact, the last bad wave I had, lasting ten days, was right at the beginning of March.

 

My sleep is okay, must be getting between seven and eight hours sleep, albeit broken. Am also loving not having to get up and go into work, looks unlikely that schools will go back until September so am taking the time to grieve, rest, reset. Some days, isolation feels a bit lonely, but I've also been video chatting with friends. I have online therapy once a week, which has helped me stay afloat.

Overall, not doing too badly, but tapering plans are really on hold right now. I'll consider again at the end of summer. I'd like at least three, maybe six months of relative stability under my belt before attempting a taper. 

Hi sunny 

that’s sounds generally upbeat 

and that’s good !

are you a teacher ?

Online therapy what’s that like?

sounds like you are keeping yourself busy which is a good thing. 
I have a childrens day nursery and at the moment we have between 8/12 key worker children attending each day. Very quiet indeed for my nursery. I’m walking into work and back home  as part of my daily exercise and biking to work in between. 

I’m a gym fanatic and have found it very hard as I usually go at least 5 times a week . body pump and spin . 
 

take care stay safe LRH 
 

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Hi @Longroadhome,

Well, I tempted fate a bit too much yesterday. After posting that, I had a really down and depressed day. Was absolutely exhausted all day and spent a lot of it on the sofa, staring into space.

Yes, am a teacher, 'working from home' at the moment, doing reports and admin work. I live alone and I mostly love the 'isolation' as it gives me head space, but when I'm in a wave, it's also kind of difficult...I wish I had company. Been trying to remedy that with calls to friends via whatsapp etc.

I'm also a running enthusiast, been trying to keep that up a bit, got an exercise routine I do at home, too. Also been squeezing in a walk nearly every day, on non running days.

I remember you saying before that you had a nursery. I think numbers attending my school have been really low, in fact, also. It's a big, three form entry primary and I'm pretty sure the deputy said they've had about 8 attendees every day! Not many. I think parents are too scared to let their kids mingle....I can understand it. Wondering how long we will stay shut.....

Anyway, you take care too and stay safe, LRH. Good to chat with you xxx

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Morning @Gridley. How are you doing? Haven't been around too much lately, catching up on threads now, yesterday and today, hoping this message finds you well.

 

Gridley, at the beginning of Feb, we got the news that my bro's cancer was end stage and he had weeks left to live. He passed away the first weekend of April and the next day, so did my sister (she's been in a care home a while, was hospitalised with 'respiratory illness.'Tested negative for 'the' virus but I have my doubts...)

 

So, have had a double bereavement. 

 

I was doing so well in January and really thought the switch from Cit to Ven was beginning to work, am sure it was. I guess understandably, the period from finding out about my brother until now have been wavey again. I'm grieving too, but I've got an uptick in symptoms such as anxiety/ waves of 'meaninglessness'/ skin is still spotty. My sleep, at least, is pretty okay. 

 

I'm so frustrated because I had hoped to be well enough to think about tapering by the end of summer but, given all the outside stress that's been going on in the world and in family, do you think it would be wise to wait? And is it 'normal' for stabilisation to be thrown by these kinds of events? Trying to keep myself positive but in a bit of a funk these last couple of days. I'm eight months into the switch, January I seemed to have turned a corner but March and April are proving to be a bit pants. Not EVERY day, but have definitely been some more pronounced swings rather than an even keel of feeling blah.I think I'd like a few months of feeling back to January's stability before I consider a taper- does that sound like a reasonable plan given my circumstances?

Also, it's been two years in May that I've been dealing with CNS instability....god, am so frustrated with myself for decisions I made back then, but also know that's unkind.I guess things are just going to take their own sweet time. Must confess to having a bit of a pity party this morning eg life's not fair etc.

 

Thank you for reading this less-than-sunny message and wishing you a happy day ahead xxx

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On 4/5/2020 at 7:08 PM, MissyE said:

 

 

I notice how easily I fall off the wagon when the **** hits the fan. Totally resonates.  

 

I'm struggling too with the cumulative stress of life events, the lockdown effing up my routine (l know "we're all in this together" but the general population aren't in WD) and even more family stuff, that with like you stirs up toxic memories. 

 

I'm trying to get back into nervous system regulation, but the anxiety has started me feeling helpless again. 

 

We need to remember we're safe now.

 

I'm thinking of you and sending my love to you through our universal energy.

Missy x

 

 

Yes to all of this, @MissyE.....struggling with the same things. Oh, for some mental peace! We will get there again. At the moment it's a case of one foot in front of the other.....

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8 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

o, have had a double bereavement. 

I am so sorry, Sunnysideup.

 

8 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Cit to Ven was beginning to work, am sure it was. I

That is very encouraging.

 

8 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

given all the outside stress that's been going on in the world and in family, do you think it would be wise to wait?

 

Probably it would be wise to wait, but end you can reappraise in August.

 

8 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

And is it 'normal' for stabilisation to be thrown by these kinds of events?

 

It is totally normal and to be expected.  

 

8 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I think I'd like a few months of feeling back to January's stability before I consider a taper- does that sound like a reasonable plan given my circumstances?

 

Again, that's probably wise.  I would be gentle with myself given what you're going through and also the world situation.

 

8 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

god, am so frustrated with myself for decisions I made

 

I think it' safe to say everyone on this site has been frustrated with decisions made, including going on these drugs in the first place.  It is normal to feel frustration, but please be kind to yourself and don't blame yourself.  You did they best you could given the information you had at the time.  I would look at the positive--the switch is working and you've made some real progress before running into rough waters recently.  You will stabilize just fine.  Again, please be kind and gentle with yourself.

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Thanks @Gridley, really appreciate your time and effort in answering. 

Yeah, I guess August is quite a way off yet, lots could happen between now and then.

 

If I'm being objective, even in February and March I was having some okay days, and towards the end of march was more accepting of my brother's diagnosis. I was kind of at a WD normal, although not quite as good a WD normal as in Jan, but recovering again.

I think it's also the loss of my sister suddenly, the day after my brother, that has thrown me into chaos a bit this month. I've been in more of a wave since the 7th, the day after it happened, the last couple of days being the worst days. It was a shock to the system and my system has reacted.

 

On the positive side, am not having to go and volunteer in school, so that's good. Am doing admin from home, so can rest and relax a bit more. I seem to be sleeping  LOT which is good I suppose...restorative. 

I see you're down to 0.6mg, that's fantastic!

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Gridley
8 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I seem to be sleeping  LOT which is good I suppose...restorative. 

Considering the shock to your system, you are doing great.

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1 minute ago, Gridley said:

Considering the shock to your system, you are doing great.

 

Thank you...it's good to get that reflection from 'outside.' I can still function, go out for shopping etc. for which I'm grateful, even when wavey.

 

Hows things with you and the pups? Is lockdown really affecting you?

 

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9 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hows things with you and the pups? Is lockdown really affecting you?

The pups are doing great and relish the extra time with us.  We can only drive one day a week and there's a 2pm curfew, but it really doesn't affect me too much.  I mostly hang out up here on the mountain anyway and before the lockdown only went to the village two days a week.  Shopping is more limited, as there's no travel from city to city and we have to rely on the local stores, where inventory is more limited.

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