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Cocopuffz17

Hey! Glad to hear you are doing better! That is great news to hear :). You have a great weekend! 

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sunnysideup69

And...my lovely window closed. But it was a good long one this time....for me...8 whole days. 

Yesterday was WD normal, kind of average.

 

Today am really tearful, and anxious, I know exactly what triggered it. Was sposed to be going home to visit parents this morning but had to put it off because yesterday, I started to get a sore throat. Am pretty sure it's just hayfever as I don't have a temperature. But I got myself super anxious about it, worrying about going to see my parents with potential 'symptoms' as they are elderly etc. So, have called my parents and have said I will travel down tomorrow. It's raining here today and the sore throat has gone, so I think it was just pollen, my eyes are a bit itchy, too. Pollen and anxiety.

 

My nervous system is still quite quick to fire up at triggers, I believe this is showing me. More self soothing today, more self care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cigale
1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

More self soothing today, more self care.

 

You did the right thing by being cautious about your visit. Take care my friend. Hugs 

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sunnysideup69

Thanks @Cocopuffz17 for your good wishes before. My window wobbled a bit on Friday and yesterday, was quite symptomatic. Got a bit stressed about travelling home, but am sort of okay again now. It's anticipatory anxiety, I know. One day even this will calm down.

 

Thanks @Cigale, appreciate it. Took temperature yesterday and it's normal. Was sneezy with itchy eyes. I'm sure it's allergies. Today am going to travel. Have woken up too early with a bit of a cortisol rush, but I guess it's to be expected. Am nervous about travelling and about seeing my parents after two bereavements....it feels emotionally very loaded.

Yesterday, I just couldn't face it and my body said no.

 

It's also because it means I'm slowly coming out of lockdown and that's a huge change, again, so am not gonna be surprise if it creates some waves.I also said yes to doing some catsitting for my friend, yesterday...not sure when yet, but am gonna do it. It's scary, to come out of hiding, but am slowly doing it. I've been a hermit with little human interaction since March 6th.

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Cigale

You are courageous and so very caring my friend! When I am struggling with an upcoming visit or even talking to someone on the phone, I ask myself to think of that other person and what my visit means to them. Just remember what a gift your visit is for your parents. And let them love and dote on you all they want. I am virtually holding your hand today. HUGS!

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sunnysideup69
2 minutes ago, Cigale said:

You are courageous and so very caring my friend! When I am struggling with an upcoming visit or even talking to someone on the phone, I ask myself to think of that other person and what my visit means to them. Just remember what a gift your visit is for your parents. And let them love and dote on you all they want. I am virtually holding your hand today. HUGS!

Thanks so much @Cigale, that means a lot xxx

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sunnysideup69

❤️ Stabilisation update for week beginning Sunday 21st June ❤️ 

6 windows, one day average, one wobbler of a day. I'd say I'm getting a lot more stable as the weeks roll on, been happening since May 8th.

 

The wobbler day had a cause...it was anticipation of visiting my parents, intense fear of infecting them, also just anxiety about train travel and about coming out of isolation after three months. Plus, it was bound to be emotional - I haven't seen them since February and two of our family have died in that short space of time. 

 

Healing is definitely happening, there's been a shift again over May and June. I'm going to coast a bit until I feel mostly really well. Also, I want to get back to work in September/ October before I think about making any medication cuts, as that could be a bit of a stressful time.

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Longroadhome

@sunnysideup69

 

great that you are stabilising and yes wait until you get back into work life routine before thinking about tapering 

onward and upward !! 

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Erell

Thank you for sharing the good news ❤

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Tom37

Your doing really well. Have been following your progress from a far.

 

I would definitely give yourself some time before tapering as been a very stressful time for many of us and you don’t want to undo your hard fought stability by going too early.

 

May it keep getting better.

 

 

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sunnysideup69
4 hours ago, Tom37 said:

Your doing really well. Have been following your progress from a far.

 

I would definitely give yourself some time before tapering as been a very stressful time for many of us and you don’t want to undo your hard fought stability by going too early.

 

May it keep getting better.

 

 

 

Hey @Tom37,

Good to hear from you, I saw your update and it also seems you're levelling out! Thank God, I'm so appreciative of just feeling even vaguely normal these days.

 

Thank you and yes, I'm really not in a hurry to taper. I'm thinking I'm going to just coast along for a while, there are going to be some more big changes before the end of the year and I want to be as stable as possible. Going back to work in school is going to be one of them....I think that's gonna be quite a challenge after so long away/ in lockdown.

 

I'm just reading and getting myself ready for a Venlafaxine taper. Most likely, will leave it until next Spring. I need a few months reprieve from feeling awful.

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Malbec37
On 6/30/2020 at 6:27 AM, sunnysideup69 said:

The wobbler day had a cause...it was anticipation of visiting my parents, intense fear of infecting them, also just anxiety about train travel and about coming out of isolation after three months. Plus, it was bound to be emotional - I haven't seen them since February and two of our family have died in that short space of time. 

 

Healing is definitely happening, there's been a shift again over May and June. I'm going to coast a bit until I feel mostly really well. Also, I want to get back to work in September/ October before I think about making any medication cuts, as that could be a bit of a stressful time.

 

Hey @sunnysideup69 Good to hear healing is definitely happening and yes I think it wise to wait until there is real life stability before making any more reductions...it's frustrating as all we want to do is get off the meds but it can be really tough when things are rocky AND we are reducing and experiencing WD symptoms. Such a tough journey but we can only move forward day by day and hold where we need to. I am in a similar boat where I want to start reducing again but I also need to find a new job and also need to find a new person to live with....both could potentially be stressful so I have to think carefully about how to juggle it. 

 

All I keep holding onto is that one day we will get there and be free of taking medication. It WILL happen :)

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Tom37

Good plan as even when you get to the point of bring ‘normal’ or close to it our nervous system will still be very fragile. Add a pandemic into the mix and there is a lot going on for us all.

 

One thing I do find on here is quite a few people give up on holding and start to taper and it makes things even worse. They don’t get stable in 12 months and think it’s not going to happen and may think it’s  the drug so start tapering. I would say the true time period for stabilisation is a lot longer than most think and I know a couple of people on here who took 3 years to get there. Your clearly getting better so things are doing what they need to sort that brain out.

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Lynnardgirl
4 hours ago, Tom37 said:

Good plan as even when you get to the point of bring ‘normal’ or close to it our nervous system will still be very fragile. Add a pandemic into the mix and there is a lot going on for us all.

 

One thing I do find on here is quite a few people give up on holding and start to taper and it makes things even worse. They don’t get stable in 12 months and think it’s not going to happen and may think it’s  the drug so start tapering. I would say the true time period for stabilisation is a lot longer than most think and I know a couple of people on here who took 3 years to get there. Your clearly getting better so things are doing what they need to sort that brain out.

So glad I read Your post . I was thinking 

it’s time to taper again been 17 months and still not stabilized ! Has to be the drugs, thanks 

I will be holding a while longer 

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sunnysideup69
On 7/1/2020 at 9:57 AM, Malbec37 said:

All I keep holding onto is that one day we will get there and be free of taking medication. It WILL happen :)

 

Thanks @Malbec37 it WILL happen. Indeed. I'm gonna hang out here anyway whilst waiting to taper. Want to be as stable as possible. 

 

13 hours ago, Tom37 said:

One thing I do find on here is quite a few people give up on holding and start to taper and it makes things even worse. They don’t get stable in 12 months and think it’s not going to happen and may think it’s  the drug so start tapering. I would say the true time period for stabilisation is a lot longer than most think and I know a couple of people on here who took 3 years to get there. Your clearly getting better so things are doing what they need to sort that brain out.

 

Thanks @Tom37, I agree. I'm holding on until I'm stable and I've been that way for a while. I don't want even tiny glitches. I feel as if I'm heading for feeling pretty normal and then, if I have to coast for a year, just to make sure, I'm going to do that. 

 

8 hours ago, Lynnardgirl said:

So glad I read Your post . I was thinking 

it’s time to taper again been 17 months and still not stabilized ! Has to be the drugs, thanks 

I will be holding a while longer 

Hang in there, we're all healing. It just takes time.

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sunnysideup69

Note to self; crappy diet still affects me. Had sugary stuff two days running at my parents' home and having a kind of exhaustion wave now. No other symptoms, just really tired. Took about 48 hours to kick in, which is normal after a sugary binge. Not really that bad, but it happens every time.

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mstimc
2 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

 

Thanks @Malbec37 it WILL happen. Indeed. I'm gonna hang out here anyway whilst waiting to taper. Want to be as stable as possible. 

 

 

Thanks @Tom37, I agree. I'm holding on until I'm stable and I've been that way for a while. I don't want even tiny glitches. I feel as if I'm heading for feeling pretty normal and then, if I have to coast for a year, just to make sure, I'm going to do that. 

 

Hang in there, we're all healing. It just takes time.

Sunny,

If there's one thing I learned its to listen to my body and emotional state when I tapered.  I think I was unsuccessful in my first two tries because I wanted to stick to a schedule.  The final and successful time I tapered a consistent amount, but the time between tapers was dictated by how I felt and if I was ready.  It took longer but went much smoother.  Hang in there!

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Thank you @mstimc,

I spent a lot of time the other day working out a schedule and thinking 'it's gonna take me ages to taper,' feeling a bit dissatisfied. But then I realised that I want this next taper to mean off meds for life....so it doesn't actually matter how long it takes.

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mstimc
2 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Thank you @mstimc,

I spent a lot of time the other day working out a schedule and thinking 'it's gonna take me ages to taper,' feeling a bit dissatisfied. But then I realised that I want this next taper to mean off meds for life....so it doesn't actually matter how long it takes.

That is so true!  It took me three years, but compared to my whole life, that wasn't much, especially considering how low my quality of life was when I was using the meds and wihdrawing.

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1 minute ago, mstimc said:

That is so true!  It took me three years, but compared to my whole life, that wasn't much, especially considering how low my quality of life was when I was using the meds and wihdrawing.

 

Gonna take me about 5 years, and that's if I don't make long pauses along the way. BUT, if that's what it takes to remain off meds for the rest of my life, then I'll put up with it.

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