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Mood is a bit better today and I wanted to update you all on something to give anyone who has had rogue skin as a result of WD some hope.

 

My skin is so much better! Last November, exactly three months after I crashed off Citalopram and did a cold switch to Venlafaxine, I started to get these weird blood blister type things on my face which then kind of turned into eczema. Then I started to get these odd clusters of what I thought was acne, but it was kind of watery blisters with nothing inside to pop.They just started to spread above my mouth, around my mouth and chin and on the sides of my nose and across the bridge of my nose. Gross!  By January it had all gotten very red and sore and I had it on my eyelids, my face looked a mess.

GP denied it could be anything to do with WD ...*sigh*...and Gridley said to me that it most likely was because of the timing....bang on three months after switching. @Gridley, you were right. As my nervous system has become more regulated, it has subsided.

I have a tiny bit of scarring from them which is getting much fainter and my face looks a LOT better, just have a tiny bit left and new outbreaks tend to be very small.

So if your face has been ruined by WD.....it does get better. 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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That’s great news !! 
anything you can recommend for wrinkles .. lol

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Just now, Longroadhome said:

That’s great news !! 
anything you can recommend for wrinkles .. lol

Hahaha....afraid not, I've still got those!

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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What was significant about the three months Sunny ? 

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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2 minutes ago, Longroadhome said:

What was significant about the three months Sunny ? 

It's three months after stopping an antidepressant that symptoms tend to show up. So I had the initial brain f**k from the switch. Then came the skin dysregulation.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Aaaah I see!!

That’s interesting as it’s three months since my mess up And my symptoms have peaked in the  last week.  

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Day 4 of wave. Last two waves have died out after four days, so we'll see how this one goes. Main symptom is body tics and jerks and just feeling a bit miserable, catastrophising. Also noting that it started with a night of insomnia...woke at about 230 am and couldn't fall back to sleep.

 

Also, I feel more 'thin skinned' at work, the more tired I become. Also notice that I really pick up on other people's stress and it has a negative impact upon me.

 

Have been feeling quite 'under the weather' since about twelve days ago. Initially started feeling like I was getting a cold, attacked it with Vitamin C tablets and it subsided. However, then started getting very hot and cold at work last week. This weekend have been feeling really shivery. Have done a covid test this morning, but I really don't think it's that, feels like fluey symptoms/cold. Gonna rest up with my miserable self today and recover.

PS as per usual in a wave, symptoms abate by about 5pm and I start feeling 'normal' again. E.g. yesterday, after a couch-bound day, I was up and making soup by 6pm. This destabilization/restabilization process is very, very strange.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hi Sunny,

How are you feeling. Is your cold any better? I too have a cold and feeling a bit weird with it, fuzzy head. I'm thinking of getting tested too but trying not to panic. I can feel my old health anxiety rising to the surface again. I hope you are feeling better x

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril.

 

 

 

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Just wanted to stop by and say hello @sunnysideup69! I hope you are feeling better and back to your strong, amazingly sunny self. You continue to inspire me with all your positivity despite life's challenges. Thank you for supporting me on my journey. Hugs, Cigale

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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On 10/12/2020 at 8:58 AM, sunnysideup69 said:

PS as per usual in a wave, symptoms abate by about 5pm and I start feeling 'normal' again. E.g. yesterday, after a couch-bound day, I was up and making soup by 6pm. This destabilization/restabilization process is very, very strange.

Very very strange indeed, but I'm really glad to read that your body knows how to go back to "normal" : it sounds like you've healed so much last weeks, I'm so happy after all you've been through ❤

 

Don't minimize the impact of work on your body : I remember last January when I went back to work my body was exhausted and I couldn't do much in the weekend except resting 😄

But you know the good news ? As everything else, it does get better with time 💪

 

Sending hugs 

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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On 10/14/2020 at 1:41 PM, Sonia001 said:

Hi Sunny,

How are you feeling. Is your cold any better? I too have a cold and feeling a bit weird with it, fuzzy head. I'm thinking of getting tested too but trying not to panic. I can feel my old health anxiety rising to the surface again. I hope you are feeling better x

 

Hey there Sonia, am feeling much better, pesky cold was a bit of a killer and it took two weeks to go but am fine now. Covid test was negative. Bes t to get a test if you feel unsure. How are you feeling now? 

 

 

On 10/15/2020 at 2:23 PM, Cigale said:

Just wanted to stop by and say hello @sunnysideup69! I hope you are feeling better and back to your strong, amazingly sunny self. You continue to inspire me with all your positivity despite life's challenges. Thank you for supporting me on my journey. Hugs, Cigale

 

Aaw, thanks for such a lovely comment, Cigale.I'm better and back to being quite functional. Also, I know my CNS is a bit fragile. My sleep is taking a while to heal, but it's gonna get there. Sending you massive hugs ❤️ and to you r family. 

 

 

On 10/15/2020 at 7:17 PM, Erell said:

Very very strange indeed, but I'm really glad to read that your body knows how to go back to "normal" : it sounds like you've healed so much last weeks, I'm so happy after all you've been through ❤

 

Don't minimize the impact of work on your body : I remember last January when I went back to work my body was exhausted and I couldn't do much in the weekend except resting 😄

But you know the good news ? As everything else, it does get better with time 💪

 

Sending hugs 

Thanks my love, I do feel like I've had a healing spurt in terms of mood, for sure. My sleep is a bit wonky, but I know it will gradually improve. You're right, work is a big stress on the body and mind. I'm pretty knocked out at the weekends...even though I work part time! I'm hoping you're seeing some improvements, too? Gosh, what a year it has been.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

 

Hey there Sonia, am feeling much better, pesky cold was a bit of a killer and it took two weeks to go but am fine now. Covid test was negative. Bes t to get a test if you feel unsure. How are you feeling now? 

 

Hi Sunny,

Good to hear you're getting over your cold and your covid test was negative. My problem turned out to be gum infection and it affected my sinuses. My mouth has been swollen and sore, only one day left of Antibiotics and they haven't cleared it so far although the swelling has gone down a lot. Antibiotics and pain killers don't mix well with citalopram for me. Hoping for a good nights sleep tonight🙏

Take care x

 

 

Aaw, thanks for such a lovely comment, Cigale.I'm better and back to being quite functional. Also, I know my CNS is a bit fragile. My sleep is taking a while to heal, but it's gonna get there. Sending you massive hugs ❤️ and to you r family. 

 

 

Thanks my love, I do feel like I've had a healing spurt in terms of mood, for sure. My sleep is a bit wonky, but I know it will gradually improve. You're right, work is a big stress on the body and mind. I'm pretty knocked out at the weekends...even though I work part time! I'm hoping you're seeing some improvements, too? Gosh, what a year it has been.

 

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril.

 

 

 

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Quick update time. Last wave was very minor and did indeed clear after about 5 days. It was triggered by work stress and also having a cold. Had a good cry at work and told someone I felt really overloaded, and the wave disappeared. Result! Felt really proud of myself and also realise I need to do a lot more speaking up, it's what I never learned to do, and it's the reason I got stressed enough to go on antidepressants in the first place.

New solutions....speak up more, don't expect people to mind read and also, get a massage once a month, as well as other self care strategies. I'm aware of how important human touch is, and as a single woman, I need more of it....it helps with self regulation.

 

Overall, August/ September and October have seen a lot of healing take place. I'm really pleased. Don't get me wrong, I'm still rocked more than 'normal' by stressful events and stress creating foods, but am handling it a bit better. Therapy has been great and a real source of support.

 

I'm feeling a tiny bit more symptomatic today and yesterday, but am pretty sure that's due to the clock change and the fact that I'm technically taking Venlafaxine an hour later than I was before. I've noticed that last Spring, the change also affected me for a few days and then passed. I guess that means my nervous system is still pretty sensitised, to react to a time change in that way, but also, I have read many times that Venlafaxine is a bit of a git to come off as its half life is really short....even with the XR version, it's still not a long lasting drug........so it could also be that. Oh joy. I think when I begin to taper, I'm going to want to do the bead counting/weighing method, one or the other. Am nervous about going for liquid owing to Brexs**t, and supply. Always seems to me that liquids seem to go out of stock first. So it looks like I'll be telling my GP I want to switch to brand name Effexor, which comes in bead format. Wondering how that's going to go down. I'd like to make that switch quite soon in the new year and have a few months to adjust.

 

Sleep continues to be the thing which is still going through ups and downs. It's not terrible, even on a bad night I still get about 6 hours, and I usually get seven. But my sleep definitely goes through its own healing waves. As does my skin. It is mostly healed but then will have a small breakout again. However, just as with emotional waves, each breakout is milder than the one before and also, clears up faster. Skin is definitely an indicator of stress for me, now. When I had a wobble at work, I also had a skin breakout....it's interesting, now I really can't hide my feelings....they are literally all over my face!

I have no surprise symptoms any more and am stable, overall - wow, feels good to write that. Any wobbles are stress related and / or because I've fallen off the sugar wagon. I'm still teetotal and don't think I'll consume alcohol ever again. There's no way I'll ever comsume any recreational drugs again. One night of fun is really not worth a lifetime of mental anguish.

 

Sending big warm hugs to you all, survivors ! 

 

 

 

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Quick update time. Last wave was very minor and did indeed clear after about 5 days. It was triggered by work stress and also having a cold. Had a good cry at work and told someone I felt really overloaded, and the wave disappeared. Result! Felt really proud of myself and also realise I need to do a lot more speaking up, it's what I never learned to do, and it's the reason I got stressed enough to go on antidepressants in the first place.

New solutions....speak up more, don't expect people to mind read and also, get a massage once a month, as well as other self care strategies. I'm aware of how important human touch is, and as a single woman, I need more of it....it helps with self regulation.

 

Overall, August/ September and October have seen a lot of healing take place. I'm really pleased. Don't get me wrong, I'm still rocked more than 'normal' by stressful events and stress creating foods, but am handling it a bit better. Therapy has been great and a real source of support.

 

I'm feeling a tiny bit more symptomatic today and yesterday, but am pretty sure that's due to the clock change and the fact that I'm technically taking Venlafaxine an hour later than I was before. I've noticed that last Spring, the change also affected me for a few days and then passed. I guess that means my nervous system is still pretty sensitised, to react to a time change in that way, but also, I have read many times that Venlafaxine is a bit of a git to come off as its half life is really short....even with the XR version, it's still not a long lasting drug........so it could also be that. Oh joy. I think when I begin to taper, I'm going to want to do the bead counting/weighing method, one or the other. Am nervous about going for liquid owing to Brexs**t, and supply. Always seems to me that liquids seem to go out of stock first. So it looks like I'll be telling my GP I want to switch to brand name Effexor, which comes in bead format. Wondering how that's going to go down. I'd like to make that switch quite soon in the new year and have a few months to adjust.

 

Sleep continues to be the thing which is still going through ups and downs. It's not terrible, even on a bad night I still get about 6 hours, and I usually get seven. But my sleep definitely goes through its own healing waves. As does my skin. It is mostly healed but then will have a small breakout again. However, just as with emotional waves, each breakout is milder than the one before and also, clears up faster. Skin is definitely an indicator of stress for me, now. When I had a wobble at work, I also had a skin breakout....it's interesting, now I really can't hide my feelings....they are literally all over my face!

I have no surprise symptoms any more and am stable, overall - wow, feels good to write that. Any wobbles are stress related and / or because I've fallen off the sugar wagon. I'm still teetotal and don't think I'll consume alcohol ever again. There's no way I'll ever comsume any recreational drugs again. One night of fun is really not worth a lifetime of mental anguish.

 

Sending big warm hugs to you all, survivors ! 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow look at you !!! 
That's awesome Sunny and gives us all hope!! 
Well done it’s not easy going through WD but you’ve proved to be a strong character . You’ve gone through all the tough difficult times and you should feel really proud of yourself !!! 
no alcohol ever again ... can’t say I’ll be sticking to that one when I reach the other side !!! 
 

 

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Great post, Sunny!  I think there are many members here who really need to hear we can ride a wave to the next window.  It does seem like such a struggle sometimes but recovery will come if we can stay confident.

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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21 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

Wow look at you !!! 
That's awesome Sunny and gives us all hope!! 
Well done it’s not easy going through WD but you’ve proved to be a strong character . You’ve gone through all the tough difficult times and you should feel really proud of yourself !!! 
no alcohol ever again ... can’t say I’ll be sticking to that one when I reach the other side !!! 
 

 

Thanks LRH! Haha, re the alcohol. To be honest, I've probably drunk enough alcohol for a lifetime, anyway, and I'm really not missing it. Both my late beloved brother and paternal grandfather were binge drinkers/ alcoholics. I rarely drank but when I did, I noticed that tendency to binge. So, aside from WD, it's out for me. My brother passing made that really clear for me. Will pop to your thread and see how you're doing xxx

 

21 hours ago, mstimc said:

Great post, Sunny!  I think there are many members here who really need to hear we can ride a wave to the next window.  It does seem like such a struggle sometimes but recovery will come if we can stay confident.

We can! I was just looking at my diary for this time last year. I was in the thick of a brain struggle after doing a cold switch. I'm not yet at 'my best' but I remember a moderator here posting about not comparing with that version, but with the 'really bad' version in the worst part of WD. I'm so much better and I know now it'll continue. Hope you're doing well?

@Sonia001, so glad you got to the bottom of why you were feeling off. Antibiotics / clock change etc. may cause some wobbles but you've got this. Wishing you speedy recovery 😊

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Want to make a note about clock changes affecting dosing/WD, for future reference when tapering. I'm gonna have to be really cautious when tapering Ven, I think, as it seems my system is sensitive to the time change of an hour.

 

I've been in a wave since Monday evening. It seemed to come on quite suddenly. Same old symptoms, but a bit more intensity; sudden random intrusive thoughts on Monday evening of a depressive nature; return of morning chemical anxiety after dosing; gurgly digestion; thermodysregulation - really shivery in the morning and I can't get warm, whole body is cold/tingly nerve endings. It's not a 'normal' coldness like you get when you're actually chilly, neither is it the onset of a genuine cold, I can feel the difference. Sudden periods of overheating, but it's not a fever. Mild headache, some stabbing pains in body. General feeling of malaise. Really cannot be arsed to do anything in the afternoons, have spent them on the sofa. Lack of motivation, lack of purpose. Clenchy muscles in my arms and shoulders. Randomly tearful about nothing in particular.

 

I'm taking it into account that it's half term and I'm recovering from a really intense half term at school, and that was after not going to work for 6 months, so it was really tiring. I'm sure that's playing into this somewhat. And of course, it could also be a sudden wave of grief. I'm underestimating the impact of losing my siblings, I know.

 

However, the symptoms started suddenly two and a half days after dosing Venlafaxine an hour later. Because the clocks went back an hour, it meant that as of Sunday morning I've technically been taking meds an hour later (still clock time 7am, but in 'old time' that's now 8am.)

 

I'm a bit gobsmacked that it has created such a ripple of effects, seemingly. My system is sensitive, plus a BIG factor is the short half life of Venlafaxine, even on the XR version. Think I'm understanding this is going to be crucial to taper at snail's pace and that I will most likely do a Brass Monkey Slide, maybe with even longer holds.

 

On the plus side, though, it has forced me to take a rest. I had a whole load of stuff planned to do this half term and have been feeling too weird to do any of it. I've still been exercising but interspersed with long periods of just lying on the sofa doing nothing much, only really getting up to do some brief gardening and cooking/making soup.

 

Another plus, which I'm proud of, as it has been really difficult to discipline myself to do it....I've been religiously doing 'no screens after 8 30pm.' So, that's an hour and a half before bed. I'm beginning to notice that my sleep feels a lot deeper as a result, I feel more refreshed in the morning. I'm still waking once in the night but am definitely getting what feels like a more sound sleep, over the last couple of nights.

 

Anyway, going forward, I may have to adjust the clock time that I take Venlafaxine when the clocks go back or forward, to avoid these glitches.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hello Sunny,

 

I'm sorry to hear about the recent bump, but also very glad to read you : you sound so much peacefull!

Look at how strong you are ❤

 

About time change, we never know how sensitive we are. To be honest, I'm so obsessed by keeping everything steady that I've kept my doses at the same hour 😄

 

Whatever it is, you've healed so much, you will probably be back on track very soon.

 

Enjoy your parents ☀️

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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16 minutes ago, Erell said:

 

About time change, we never know how sensitive we are. To be honest, I'm so obsessed by keeping everything steady that I've kept my doses at the same hour 😄

 

Whatever it is, you've healed so much, you will probably be back on track very soon.

 

Enjoy your parents ☀️

 

Thank you, lovely @Erell - I will also be doing same in the future re doses. I think it's super important for those of us dealing with CNS sensitivity....in a way, this has served as a handy nudge to just be super careful. 

Thanks so much, it will be nice to enjoy the fresh air in Wiltshire for a couple of days.

Yeah- I guess I have cultivated a kind of acceptance around this journey now. I still get a little jolt when a glitch comes, but that passes and I know I will eventually recover from it.

Sending you big hugs from London xxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Yeah- I guess I have cultivated a kind of acceptance around this journey now. I still get a little jolt when a glitch comes, but that passes and I know I will eventually recover from it.

Hi Sunny

 

You are absolutely right!  It will pass.  I've been dealing with anxious feelings for the past few weeks as well.  Part of it is a tooth implant that's going bad and will probably need to be replaced.  That means some minor oral surgery and a few months' recovery, but I've done it before so no big deal.  I think the major factor is the upcoming election in the US.  Our entire system of government is at stake and things seem to get crazier every day.  I, too, have been working on acceptance.  Things happen for a reason and this too shall pass.

 

It sounds like you're on the right path!  Reducing computer screen time is a great idea!  I shut down at 9:00 and read for a while and I find it's really helped too.  Positive thoughts going out to you from Portugal!

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Hi Sunny

 

You are absolutely right!  It will pass.  I've been dealing with anxious feelings for the past few weeks as well.  Part of it is a tooth implant that's going bad and will probably need to be replaced.  That means some minor oral surgery and a few months' recovery, but I've done it before so no big deal.  I think the major factor is the upcoming election in the US.  Our entire system of government is at stake and things seem to get crazier every day.  I, too, have been working on acceptance.  Things happen for a reason and this too shall pass.

 

It sounds like you're on the right path!  Reducing computer screen time is a great idea!  I shut down at 9:00 and read for a while and I find it's really helped too.  Positive thoughts going out to you from Portugal!

Thanks so much @mstimc! Positive vibes your way. You know, things are also going a bit crazy virus wise in London and there's a general fear in the atmosphere, which amps up our own anxiety if we let it.

Gotta just keep working on grounding and letting those feelings flow/go. Indeed this too shall pass xx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Want to make a note about clock changes affecting dosing/WD, for future reference when tapering. I'm gonna have to be really cautious when tapering Ven, I think, as it seems my system is sensitive to the time change of an hour.

 

I've been in a wave since Monday evening. It seemed to come on quite suddenly. Same old symptoms, but a bit more intensity; sudden random intrusive thoughts on Monday evening of a depressive nature; return of morning chemical anxiety after dosing; gurgly digestion; thermodysregulation - really shivery in the morning and I can't get warm, whole body is cold/tingly nerve endings. It's not a 'normal' coldness like you get when you're actually chilly, neither is it the onset of a genuine cold, I can feel the difference. Sudden periods of overheating, but it's not a fever. Mild headache, some stabbing pains in body. General feeling of malaise. Really cannot be arsed to do anything in the afternoons, have spent them on the sofa. Lack of motivation, lack of purpose. Clenchy muscles in my arms and shoulders. Randomly tearful about nothing in particular.

I

Just read your post Sunny and it could have been written by me, although I couldn't have put it as eloquently as you, I get those feelings too, they come and go. I tend to get hot about an hour after taking citalopram, my legs burn yet I can feel cold quickly too. Good idea to switch off screens at 8.30pm. Hope you have a peaceful weekend. I'm in lockdown so won't be venturing anywhere. x

 

11 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I'm taking it into account that it's half term and I'm recovering from a really intense half term at school, and that was after not going to work for 6 months, so it was really tiring. I'm sure that's playing into this somewhat. And of course, it could also be a sudden wave of grief. I'm underestimating the impact of losing my siblings, I know.

 

However, the symptoms started suddenly two and a half days after dosing Venlafaxine an hour later. Because the clocks went back an hour, it meant that as of Sunday morning I've technically been taking meds an hour later (still clock time 7am, but in 'old time' that's now 8am.)

 

I'm a bit gobsmacked that it has created such a ripple of effects, seemingly. My system is sensitive, plus a BIG factor is the short half life of Venlafaxine, even on the XR version. Think I'm understanding this is going to be crucial to taper at snail's pace and that I will most likely do a Brass Monkey Slide, maybe with even longer holds.

 

On the plus side, though, it has forced me to take a rest. I had a whole load of stuff planned to do this half term and have been feeling too weird to do any of it. I've still been exercising but interspersed with long periods of just lying on the sofa doing nothing much, only really getting up to do some brief gardening and cooking/making soup.

 

Another plus, which I'm proud of, as it has been really difficult to discipline myself to do it....I've been religiously doing 'no screens after 8 30pm.' So, that's an hour and a half before bed. I'm beginning to notice that my sleep feels a lot deeper as a result, I feel more refreshed in the morning. I'm still waking once in the night but am definitely getting what feels like a more sound sleep, over the last couple of nights.

 

Anyway, going forward, I may have to adjust the clock time that I take Venlafaxine when the clocks go back or forward, to avoid these glitches.

 

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril.

 

 

 

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Hey @Sonia001 XXX London looks likely to be going back into lockdown. Sending you good lockdown vibes!

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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@sunnysideup69 France is in lock-out too! I hope your wave passes and you’ll feel better soon!

June 25 - July 8, 2020 - 2 weeks on Brintellix, suffered an adverse reaction.

 

25 juin - 8 juillet 2020-2 semaines sur Brintellix, a subi un effet indésirable.

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Hello @Nyfa25, thank you, feeling back to normal today. Sending good vibes to you in France ❤️ 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Wave over. Convinced it was clock change/ changing time of meds. I'm noting that it started about 36 hours after the time change, peaked at 5 days, it's now day 8 and I've been feeling back to normal baseline (which is pretty good) since yesterday. 

 

So, 7 days in total. Wondering if this will be a pattern that occurs when tapering, so am taking notes here of symptoms.

 

Sudden onset of chemical 'depression' at 36 hours....questioning the meaning of life. This passed quite rapidly - unwelcome and intrusive, bizarre thoughts.

Main symptom was just feeling really out of sorts, can't be bothered, just want to lie around and rest. No inspiration at all. By Thursday morning, I had some increased agitatition on waking, this built up from Monday onwards.

Also, I experienced a lot of temperature dysregulation...mostly feeling really cold and shivery, mainly in the mornings.

Felt like I didn't want to see anyone.

 

Also noting that even at its worst, it was still a mild to moderate wave overall. I still travelled home to see my parents this weekend. But it was very quick and came on suddenly, which is not my usual pattern- usually I get some indicators that a wave is coming- this is why I think it's related to dose time change.

 

So, bye bye symptoms. You're not fooling me any more. I'm okay again today, so I know these were a chemical event and not some 'underlying condition.'

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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@sunnysideup69

That’s great news. So happy for you. You are such a caring person, a good quality to have. That just might be one of the meanings in life that you have and you are using it in such a good way by supporting so many of us here. 
Thank you for continuing to drop by my thread with your support, and enjoy your wonderful window.

Have a great day big hug to you 💖

 


1999-2020  20 mg Paxil

Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil.

2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12  13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg

 


I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience.

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Aaw, thanks so much, @Hanna72 - big hugs also to you and continued healing xxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

So, bye bye symptoms. You're not fooling me any more. I'm okay again today, so I know these were a chemical event and not some 'underlying condition.'

 

Hey Sunny very good to hear that you're feeling better and out of the wave. Let's hope things settle down for you now. Sounds like you're getting to know how things work for you really well...we are really becoming experts in the nervous system!

 

Have a good week x 

Malbec37 Introduction:  Diagnosis of Recurrent Depressive Disorder 2005

Sertraline 2003 - 2004 then switched to Citalopram 2004 - 2014 20mg then up to 40mg then switched to Mirtazapine 30mg 2014 - 2020

Began taper off Mirtazapine Aug 2019 - 2 months at 22.5mg, 3 months at 15mg, 10 days at 11.25mg then updosed to 13mg after constant WD...40 days on 13 and then updose to 15 as of 13/2/20...holding for now and stabilised.

Resumed taper from 15mg in July 2021 - 14mg in July 21, 13mg in August 21, 12mg in Sept 21 and 11 mg in Nov 21, made it down to 9mg in Mar 22 but crashed and reinstated to 15mg Apr 22

Currently holding on 15mg 

 

 

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Glad the waves over @sunnysideup69

and your now able to get through them knowing they will pass 

onward and upward !! 
Have a good week ! X 

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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@sunnysideup69 Hi, happy for you that your wave has passed! hoping that it lasts and that you recover completely!

 

full of comfort and good vibes !

June 25 - July 8, 2020 - 2 weeks on Brintellix, suffered an adverse reaction.

 

25 juin - 8 juillet 2020-2 semaines sur Brintellix, a subi un effet indésirable.

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Can this year eff off now, please? Dad was knocked over by a car last Monday- he's 88. He's currently resting up at home, bruised and sore and unable to get up the stairs, so he and mum are sleeping downstairs. Poor guy. Rather charmingly, the driver didn't stop, luckily a passing pedestrian helped dad up and walked him the short distance home. Mum is obviously shocked and looking after him.

 

I'm having some kind of delayed shock response - sleep all over the place, feeling really blank. Still managed to go to work Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday. It's now Saturday and it's kind of hitting me. We're lucky he wasn't killed....hoping he makes a full recovery and regains his full range of movement. Am going down for the day next weekend to see them, god willing.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hey Sunny sorry to hear this news but relieved your dad seems ok...as you say it could have been much worse. I hope things go well and he recovers properly 

Well done for coping despite the stress and a fragile nervous system and also going to work...you’re a trooper! Hope things settle down now 

support coming to you from Bristol!

Malbec37 Introduction:  Diagnosis of Recurrent Depressive Disorder 2005

Sertraline 2003 - 2004 then switched to Citalopram 2004 - 2014 20mg then up to 40mg then switched to Mirtazapine 30mg 2014 - 2020

Began taper off Mirtazapine Aug 2019 - 2 months at 22.5mg, 3 months at 15mg, 10 days at 11.25mg then updosed to 13mg after constant WD...40 days on 13 and then updose to 15 as of 13/2/20...holding for now and stabilised.

Resumed taper from 15mg in July 2021 - 14mg in July 21, 13mg in August 21, 12mg in Sept 21 and 11 mg in Nov 21, made it down to 9mg in Mar 22 but crashed and reinstated to 15mg Apr 22

Currently holding on 15mg 

 

 

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Hi @sunnysideup69

Life sure is throwing you some challenges.

 

“The more obstacles you overcome 

the stronger you become 

Life doesn’t get easier or more forgiving 

You get stronger and more resilient “

 

Never underestimate the strength you have already with in you. You are such a strong lady.

My best wishes to you and healing to your dad.

 


1999-2020  20 mg Paxil

Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil.

2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12  13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg

 


I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience.

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 @sunnysideup69

 

sorry to hear about your dad can’t believe someone would drive off snd leave an elderly person in the road !!!! How can they do that ?

really hope he gets over the trauma and heals very soon 

it will be nice for you to be with him I bet he’ll look forward to that 

Hope this hasn’t set you back too much it’s bound to have upset your system somewhat but I’ve no doubt it will be temporary . You have shown remarkable courage this last year and your mum and dad are very lucky they can depend on you. 

take care thinking of you x

Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈

 

Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg,  Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg  🎈

 

December 25th 2022 drug free 

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hi Sunny

So sorry to hear about your dad, I hope you all find the strength to cope until he makes a full recovery. Best wishes x

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril.

 

 

 

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