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Hello Shep,

 

6 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Do you think you would feel better taking it once or twice a day instead of 3 times a day?

 

If so, you could gradually move the dose to the night time. We recommend moving gradually, one hour per day over several days. Moving only one hour per day is gentle on the nervous system.

 

 

It's okay to stay on the same dose of benzo for more than 30 days.  Keep in mind that withdrawal symptoms may be more severe than tolerance symptoms. So tapering too soon can make you worse than holding at the same dose.

 

I regret to not have started with twice a day one year ago. But now, I don't know if I would feel better with twice. I think m'y body and my brain are used to 3/day. I think the most important is to stabilise me first and I have important doses of benzo. I think is more carefull not to change for time.

I didn't know your méthod for 3 too 2, but another : very gradually   move 0,25 mg of the dose of 3pm on 9 am and 0,25 to 9 PM a week. Some people move just 0,125 mg on morning and 0,125 mg the evening, or less. I have seen a lot of succèss with this méthod.

 

For the same dose of benzo... I understand. I dont want to tapering to soon. ;)

I give you an exemple : If I taper 1,5%/ 21 days (always current dose) : for one year : 14,25 mg to 10,855 mg prazepam (- 3,395 mg).

For 1,5%/ 28 j : 14,25 mg to 11,53 mg for one year. (- 2,72 mg). Is it a lot?

 

I think my withdrawal symptôms are for most of them the résultats of my recently hard taper of my antidepressant. But maybe I'm wrong?

 

I think is more carefull not to change anything for the benzo for now?

What do you think about it?

 

I feel a little better today, but wait and sée.. Less dépressive but very anxious.

 

Thank you very much Shep, I know you have a lot to do on the forum. I hope is sunny at home in US, if it isn't I send you sun from France. 

 

Vega.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Vegalia

Hello,

 

11 october :

 

I sleep for 11h15 pm to 5.15 am : woke with back pain : 5, head pain : 3, brain zap : 2 but no long time, nausea : 3

8 am : homéopathy, probiotics, lihium citrate, anxiety 3

8.30 am :  breakfast and  escitalopram1,5 mg 

9 am : prazepam 4,75 mg, dépression : 4, anxiety 4

play games with friends on Facebook, answer to a mail of a frien

10 am : pains in réduction, dépression 5, anxiety 7

phone to a friend long time

1.30 pm : homeopathy, eat

Do a little homework, and 30 mn gardening (jardinage), dépression 3, anxiety 5

3 PM : prazepam 4,75 mg

4 PM : dépression 4, anxiety : 6

8 PM : diner (i really cooked) dépression 4, anxiety 4

9 PM prazepam 4,75 mg 

10 PM : pains up, Brain zap

11.30 PM : homeopathy and L-tryptophane 220 mg

 

*****

nausea :  not all the day

Back muscles contracted, no spasmes

unplaisant spine sensations  : up

Painfull legs : very slight

legs are like cotton : stable

Equilibrium problems :  4

visual problems : in réduction

Bruxism : 5. 

Cold  : several times 

sensibility to light and noises  : in réduction

small difficulties for speech ( petites difficultés d'élocution comme si ma langue était anesthésiée. J'ai déjà eu ce symptôme) slightly

 

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Rhiannon
On 10/5/2019 at 10:26 AM, Erell said:

 

Maybe one day we Will be able To translate all the precious infos of this board To help French people  😇

 

 

Oh that would be wonderful! It would be so great to have multiple language moderators and translators to help people from all over. We get so many visitors from other countries and I feel bad that it's all in English.

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One day we Will! Definitely! 

These last few days I started To talk To friends again and explained them my situation..they all know someone who is struggling or has struggled with AD 😮😮 !! For now my mind can't, but one day, when I'll Feel better, I want To try To translate and disseminate information in French!

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rola

 

hi vegalia

I'm French too and I think I was on the same forum as you I wish you courage for your healings see you soon

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Vegalia

Hello everybody 

 

I'm not sûre I will be able to translate very well, m'y english isn't So good. lol

 

Salut @rola

 

Oui, même forum. Je suis presque sûre de t'avoir reconnue (cf ta signature) . ;)

Merci pour ton petit mot et bon courage à toi. :)

 

Vega. 

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Hi Vega

 

Glad to see you are feeling a little better.

 

Sass

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Vegalia

Hi Sass :)

 

Thank you for jour message

Dépression is a little bit less hard, but anxiety very hard.

 

I never had dépression before one month, and the anxiety had never been So hard since...one year, after my third try to reduce short Half-Life benzo (veratran). Since 11 month I  almost never had anxiety, very rare, only a few days and 2-3 hours and Never worse than 3 on intensity.

 

Wait and sée...

 

Good  night :)

 

Vega.

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Vegalia

12 october

 

sleep for 12h15 pm to 6.15 am and drowsed to 8 am :):woke with back pain : 3 head pain : 3, brain zap : 2 but no long time, no nausea ! 

8. 15 am : homéopathy, probiotics, lihium citrate, anxiety 3

8.40 am :  breakfast and  escitalopram1,5 mg 

pains in réduction

9 am : prazepam 4,75 mg, dépression : 4, anxiety 4

10 am : tired : go to bed but no slep.

1.pm : homeopathy, eat. Anxiety ; 7

30 mn gardening (jardinage), dépression 3, anxiety 6

3 PM : prazepam 4,75 mg, feel asleep

3.30 PM : go to bed to 6.30 PM, with a nap of just 20 mn.

4 PM : dépression 5, anxiety : 7, i cry a little

7.40 pM :  dépression 5, anxiety 7, pains up

9 PM prazepam 4,75 mg : dépression 4 : anxiety 4 ouf !

11.30 PM : homeopathy and L-tryptophane 220 mg

 

*****

nausea :  not all the day and not big

Back muscles contracted, no spasmes

unplaisant spine sensations  : in reducy

Painfull legs : up at 6 at 9 PM.

legs are like cotton : in réduction

Equilibrium problems :  4 on morning, but no probkemd dince afternoon

visual problems : a lot

Bruxism : 7 

Cold  : 2 times.  

sensibility to light and noises  : stable

small difficulties for speech ( petites difficultés d'élocution comme si ma langue était anesthésiée. J'ai déjà eu ce symptôme) in réduction.

sweat ? ( transpiration) 3 times

 

Today, the most difficult was anxiety.

 

Tomorrow is another day. ;)

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Vegalia

Hello,

 

Sorry but the news are bad today.

I feell me very bad. Anxiety and dépression are very hard, too hard. Dispair, cry.

I'm affraid and unable to think of other things of my bad fellings, wandering me what to do now with my drugs.

Upgrade or not escitalopram ? I'm affraid it will worse if I do this. I'm lost.

 

A part of me want to stay in bed all the day. 

 

I will try to wash me and Cook : So, so hard...Not realist : I want to do this, it will be great. But I'm blocked...

 

But, as I often say : tomorrow is another day.

 

Vega 

 

 

 

 

 

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Shep
On 10/11/2019 at 11:48 AM, Vegalia said:

I think is more carefull not to change anything for the benzo for now?

What do you think about it?

 

I feel a little better today, but wait and sée.. Less dépressive but very anxious.

 

This sounds like a good plan, Vega. When in doubt, hold the drugs steady and let your brain / body adjust. 

 

17 hours ago, Vegalia said:

Bruxism : 7 

 

Do you wear a mouth guard to protect your teeth? 

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Vegalia

Hello Shep,

 

41 minutes ago, Shep said:

 

This sounds like a good plan, Vega. When in doubt, hold the drugs steady and let your brain / body adjust. 

 

 

Do you wear a mouth guard to protect your teeth? 

 1 . Ok, I hope anxiety and dépression will be a litlle bit less hard...

Today my back and my arms are burning but I stand it.

 

2. Yes I have got one but it seems not to be good. I can't afford to have another, but I will try again to wear it.

Bruxism, is not the worse symptôm. I think is a symptôms of taper DA, because I had that when I was tapering sertraline and after I didn't have it anymore until recently.

 

Thank you Shep. So : stand, wait and sée, hope and fingers crossed?

 

What about the compléments? 

I take : lithium citrate 1 mg, L-tryptophan 220 mg, and homéopathy (for digestive problèms).

I think that oméga-3 could be a good idea.

Before to take oméga-3, I thought maybe stop very slowly L-tryptophane and lithium citrate.

Do you have an advice?

 

Thank you So much.

 

Vega.

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Hi Vegalia I think you should stop all the supplements me on me the proposed and I refused i try one day estress magnesium and my anxiety is magnified on this site he recommends a dose to see how we react and I think our twists became fast as soon as weaning 30 29 28 etc and now on the expensive payday today after this is my opinion I am stable and after only I would take fish oil at the dose here is courage and tell you that on the same fight kisses

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Vegalia

Coucou Rola,

 

Je réduirai progressivement.

Sass m'avait conseillé de rien toucher pour l'instant, alors j'attends.

 

Courage à toi et merci pour ton petit mot.

 

Bisous.

 

Vega

 

(I will reduce gradually I think.

Sass had me advice to not change m'y complements for time, So I'm waiting.)

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Vegalia

13 october

 

sleep for 12h30 pm to 5h30 am and drowsed to  7.30 am :woke with back pain : 3 head pain : 3, brain zap, nausea  

8. 15 am : homéopathy, probiotics, lihium citrate, anxiety 5, dépression 5

8.40 am :  breakfast and  escitalopram1,5 mg 

pains in réduction

9 am : prazepam 4,75 mg, dépression : 5, anxiety 7

10. 30 am :  go to bed but no sleep. I cry a little

1.pm : homeopathy, eat. Anxiety ; 8, dépression 5

2. 30 am 30 mn gardening  dépression 5 anxiety 7

3 PM : prazepam 4,75 mg

3.30 PM : go to bed to 6.30 for 2-3 h anxiety : 3 !

4 PM : I cry a little

7.40 pM : homéopathy, dîner,  dépression 5, anxiety 6, pains up

9 PM prazepam 4,75 mg : dépression 4 : anxiety 4 ouf !

11.30 PM : homeopathy and L-tryptophane 220 mg

 

*****

nausea :  not all the day and not big

Back muscles contracted, no spasmes : harder morning and evening

unplaisant spine sensations  : in réduction

Painfull legs 

legs are like cotton : in réduction

Equilibrium problems : on morning and evening.

visual problems : not a lot

Bruxism : 6

Cold  : 2 times.  

sensibility to light and noises  : stable

small difficulties for speech ( petites difficultés d'élocution comme si ma langue était anesthésiée. J'ai déjà eu ce symptôme) stable.

No sweat 

 

Today, the most difficult was anxiety.

Physical symptôms seems to be hardest early am morning and the evening.

Anxiety and dépression seems to be hardest since midell morning to begining of evening.

 

And tomorrow is another day. ;)

 

Vega

 

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Vegalia

 

Hello,

 

I have read this morning the manual of the french forum for antidepressant.

And... I found something Intéressant that I didn't remembrer... even if I knowed that change DA might take problèms...

 

 

Introduction :
Avec les antidépresseurs, il est fortement recommandé de sevrer directement l’antidépresseur d’origine et d’envisager d’ajouter une autre molécule ou de passer à une autre molécule, seulement si le sevrage de l’antidépresseur d’origine s’avère trop compliqué, c’est-à-dire que les symptômes de sevrage sont intolérables. En fin de sevrage, lorsque les dernières diminutions deviennent trop difficiles, il est également envisageable d’introduire un antidépresseur de soutien ou de substitution. Comme relevé par Altostrata (2011), administrateur du forum Surviving Antidepressants, un sevrage direct du médicament auquel votre système nerveux est accoutumé est moins risqué que le passage par un autre antidépresseur [sevrage indirect]. En effet, il peut arriver que l’organisme réagisse très mal à l’introduction d’une nouvelle molécule, ce qui provoque, dans la plupart des cas, de sévères effets indésirables. Il peut également arriver que la substitution échoue : c’est le cas lorsque l’action de la nouvelle molécule ne couvre pas les symptômes de sevrage induits par le sevrage de la molécule d’origine.

 

Vega.

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17 minutes ago, Vegalia said:

 

Salut,

 

J'ai lu ce matin le manuel du forum français des antidépresseurs.

Et ... j'ai trouvé quelque chose d'intéressant dont je ne me souvenais pas ... même si je savais que ce changement, DA pourrait prendre des problèmes ...

 

 

Introduction :
The antidipresseurs with the antidipresseurs, the fortement suggérés par l'antidépresseur d'origine et l'envisager. compliqué, c'est-à-dire que les symptômes de sevrage sont intolérables. En fin de sevrage, lorsque les dernières diminutions sont trop difficiles, il est également envisageable d'introduire un antidépresseur de soutien ou de substitution. Comme relevé par Altostrata (2011), administrateur du forum Surviving Antidpressant, un médicament sur lequel vous avez un traitement nerveux et qui est moins énervé que le passage par un autre antidépresseur [sevrage indirect]. This is a réagit in the new one in the molecule dans la plupart des cas, de sévères effets indésirables. Il est également possible que la substitution échoue: c'est ce qui s'est passé lorsque la nouvelle molécule est apparue.

 

Vega.

 

Hi I hope you're a little better today I am at a minimal dose of deroxat 1.48 mg and I was proposed to change to prozac but I do not want to introduce a new molecule because I do not risk the suporter kisses and good day courage

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Vegalia

Hi @rola,

 

The day is just bigining : wait and sée. ;)

 

It is sometimes proposed to change I think because a member of the forum has succèss and feel very better since she has changéd, 6 months ago.She has a successfull taper now.

 

To change is a risk, I knew that but I minimized it. The problèm was that the titration of sertraline was not possible for me, and the liquid sertraline is not aviable in France. Précision scale : impossible because the powder of caps was too fine. If it was, I didn't have changed. 

M'y doctor didn't want to prescrive me magistral préparation more little than mg... 

So what to do ? Taper mg to mg as longer it was possible or change directly? I thing I have the answer now, 30 days is not a limite.... :(

 

A question that I asked me : It is saying and writing in manual to reduce 10-3%, considering that 5% is better, bigining with 30 days and try to reduce the number of day if only all is ok gradually to 15. A taper must be with no symptoms ore very small : ok. But why no more that 30 days? It is saying that is a lot and useless, but in the same time it is saying that in tapering we must have no symptom or very small and that tolérance with DA if tolérance exist, Côme often after several years and not 1 month like the benzo. Is not logical...

 

Bonne chance dans ton sevrage. J'espère qu'il se déroulera au mieux. On sait qu'il faut prendre tout le temps dont notre corps a besoin maintenant.

 

Que ta journée soit la plus douce possible. :)

 

Bisous

 

Vega.

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22 hours ago, Vegalia said:

Thank you Shep. So : stand, wait and sée, hope and fingers crossed?

 

What about the compléments? 

I take : lithium citrate 1 mg, L-tryptophan 220 mg, and homéopathy (for digestive problèms).

I think that oméga-3 could be a good idea.

Before to take oméga-3, I thought maybe stop very slowly L-tryptophane and lithium citrate.

Do you have an advice?

 

Please do not taper any of the supplements and homeopathy remedies yet. Please hold everything steady. 

 

You just increased the escitalopram on September 28. Do you feel the increased dose has helped? 

 

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Vegalia
6 minutes ago, Shep said:

 

Please do not taper any of the supplements and homeopathy remedies yet. Please hold everything steady. 

 

You just increased the escitalopram on September 28. Do you feel the increased dose has helped? 

 

 Hello Shep,

 

Ok I dont change for compléments. And I suppose I must waiting to try fish oïl too?

 

I feel me a little, little bit less dépressive but it's still really hard.

I feel more and more anxiety : this is very very hard to stand.

 

Thank you for your advices Shep.

 

Vega.

 

 

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Vegalia

Hello,

 

When I answered to @Shep I was very very anxious and since no long time after, I'm very tired, my brain seem's have had an anesthésia, to be in fog. 

 

It will be complicated to explain my day this evening or tomorrow morning, but I will try.

 

Vega.

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Vegalia

Hi Sass,

 

Yes...

I had such problèms with important doses of prazepam, and it was really better since 3-4 month.

Now W/ D with DA ok.^^ Not eventually, it will go completly one day "mon cher Sass" 😁

'( you can say mon cher for a man and ma chère for a women and it's ok :) )

 

Thank you very much for your support and all you are doing  to help me.

 

Vega


PS And...sorry for my english.😇

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Vegalia

14 october

 

sleep for 11h pm to 4h30 am and drowsed to  6 am :woke with back pain and burning : 5 head pain : 3, brain zap,

8. 15 am : homéopathy, probiotics, lihium citrate, anxiety 2, dépression 4

8.40 am :  breakfast and  escitalopram1,5 mg 

pains in réduction

9 am : prazepam 4,75 mg, dépression : 5, anxiety 7

10. 30 am :  go to bed but no sleep.

2. pm : homeopathy, eat. Anxiety ; 8, dépression 5

3 PM : prazepam 4,75 mg

3.30 PM : go to bed, my brain is in fog, I'm tiréd

7.40 pM : homéopathy, dîner,  dépression 5, anxiety 5, pains, burnings, brain zap up

8.10 PM : take paracétamol 1 g

9 PM prazepam 4,75 mg : dépression 4 : anxiety 3

11.PM : homeopathy and L-tryptophane 220 mg

 

*****

nausea : very little

Back muscles contracted, no spasmes : harder morning and evening

unplaisant spine sensations  :stable

Painfull legs : less

legs are like cotton : no

Equilibrium problems : on morning and evening not a lot

visual problems : not a lot

Bruxism : 5

Cold  : 2 times.  

sensibility to light and noises  : stable

small difficulties for speech ( petites difficultés d'élocution comme si ma langue était anesthésiée. J'ai déjà eu ce symptôme) in réduction

No sweat 

 

Today, the most difficult was anxiety.

Physical symptôms seems to be hardest early am morning and the evening.

Anxiety and dépression seems to be hardest since midell morning to begining of evening.

 

And tomorrow is another day. ;)

 

Vega

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Vegalia

Hi,

 

Burnings in back, arms and legs are sévère this morning.

 

I sée m'y doctor this morning. She wanted to prescrive me lamictal : I don't want.

I hope that she will prescrive me escitalopram So long as I need...

 

Wish me good luck. ;)

 

Thanks

 

Vega

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Good luck Vega

Be firm but polite with your doctor.

Sass

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Vegalia
20 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Good luck Vega

Be firm but polite with your doctor.

Sass

Hi Sass,

 

Thank you very much.

 

Yes, I will.

 

Have a good day.

 

Vega

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Vegalia

Hi,

 

Ok no lamictal for yet but my doctor told me to think about it.

She think to start lamictal with very little doses and adapt very slowly, and assure me is a light drug and no risk with my big sensibiliy with drugs and that I will feel me better. 

Very little doses is for her 25 mg !!! 

 

I have read was Altostrata say about Lamictal : 25 mg is not little !

 

I' m not a laboratory rat ! And I will not take lamictal. But I didn't say that to the doctor.^^

 

Have a good day 

 

Vega 

 

 

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Well done Vega

Doctors always think add another drug and all will be well.

You are doing the right thing by changing nothing and waiting until you stabilise

Sass

 

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4 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Bravo Vega

Les médecins pensent toujours ajouter un autre médicament et tout ira bien.

Vous faites le bon choix en ne changeant rien et en attendant de vous stabiliser

Toupet

 

Hi
sassenach is right do not add anything the doctors tend to add you
and after you go out more
vegala courage
we go through the same thing

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Vegalia

Hi Sass and Rola,

 

Thank you.

 

51 minutes ago, Sassenach said:

Well done Vega

Doctors always think add another drug and all will be well.

You are doing the right thing by changing nothing and waiting until you stabilise

Sass

 

 

Yes, is better with dépression : 5-6 but anxiety is terrible, more and more hard Every day.. 7-8,5 since 9 am. Fears a lot today. I feel me So bad.

Too hard to stand. :(

 

I dont know what to do. To change my DA was a terrible error...

 

Sorry to give bad news. 

 

Vega

 

 

 

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15 october

 

sleep for 11.45 pm to 5.15 am woke with back pain and burning : 6 head pain : 3, brain zap,

8. 15 am : homéopathy, probiotics, lihium citrate, anxiety 2, dépression 4

8.40 am :  breakfast and  escitalopram1,5 mg 

9 am : prazepam 4,75 mg, dépression : 5, anxiety 7

9.30 am : go to the psychiatr with taxi, it's far., Côme back at home at 12 ! Dépression 4, anxiety 7-8

1.30  pm : homeopathy, eat. Anxiety ; 8,,5, dépression 5

3 PM : prazepam 4,75 mg 

7.40 pM : homéopathy, dîner,  dépression 5, anxiety 5 :) pains, burnings and brain zap up more than yesterday Braun like in fog.

8.10 PM : take paracétamol 1 g

9 PM prazepam 4,75 mg : dépression 4 : anxiety 4

11.PM : homeopathy and L-tryptophane 220 mg

 

*****

nausea : very little

Back muscles contracted, burning arms, legs, brain zap : harder morning and evening, harder than yestetday.

unplaisant spine sensations  :stable

Painfull legs : more

legs are like cotton : no

Equilibrium problems : on morning and evening more than yesterday

visual problems : not a lot

Bruxism : 6

Cold  : 1 time  

sensibility to light and noises  : stable

small difficulties for speech ( petites difficultés d'élocution comme si ma langue était anesthésiée. J'ai déjà eu ce symptôme) in réduction

No sweat 

 

 

Today, the most difficult was anxiety.

Physical symptôms are harder  early am morning and the evening.

Less depression, more anxiety : very hard !

 

Since 3 days pain in pancrea again.

 

I didn't really have rest today : doctor this morning and help my father with téléphon this afternoon.

He is ill and in hospital. 

 

 

Vega

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6 minutes ago, Vegalia said:

15 octobre

 

sommeil  de 23h45 à 17h15 réveil avec maux de dos et brûlures :  6 douleurs à la tête: 3, zap, 

8. 15 heures: homéopathie,  probiotiques,  citrate de lithium , anxiété 2, dépression 4

8h40: petit-déjeuner et   escitalopram1,5  mg 

9h: prazépam 4,75 mg,  dépression  : 5, anxiété 7

9h30: rendez-vous chez le psychiatre en taxi, c'est loin., Côme rentre chez lui à 12h! Dépression 4, anxiété 7-8

13h30: homéopathie, manger. Anxiété  ; 8, 5, dépression 5

15 heures: prazépam 4,75 mg 

7h40: homéopathie, dîner, dépression 5, anxiété 5 :)douleurs, brûlures et cervelle zappée plus qu'hier Braun comme dans le brouillard.

20h10: prendre du paracétamol 1 g

9 heures du matin prazépam 4,75 mg: dépression 4: anxiété 4

11.PM: homéopathie et L-tryptophane 220  mg

 

*****

nausée: très peu

Les muscles du dos se contractent, brûlent les bras, les jambes et le cerveau: plus dur matin et soir, plus dur qu'hier.

sensations de colonne vertébrale déplaisantes  : stable 

Jambes douloureuses: plus

les jambes sont comme du coton: non

Problèmes d'équilibre: matin et soir plus qu'hier

problèmes visuels: pas beaucoup

Bruxisme : 6 

Froid: 1 fois  

sensibilité à la lumière et aux bruits: stable

petites difficultés d'élocution (petites difficultés  d'élocution  comme si ma langue était anesthésiée. J'ai déjà eu ce symptôme) en réduction

Pas de transpiration 

 

 

Aujourd'hui, le plus difficile était l'inquiétude.

Les symptômes physiques sont plus difficiles tôt le matin et le soir.

Moins de dépression, plus d'anxiété: très difficile!

 

Depuis 3 jours, douleur dans le pancréas à nouveau.

 

Je ne me suis pas vraiment reposée aujourd'hui: médecin ce matin et aidez mon père à téléphoner cet après-midi.

Il est malade et hospitalisé. 

 

 

Vega

salut vega 

courage j 'espere que ton papa va aller mieux 

ça ne doit pas arranger les choses 

bonne soirée 

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Vegalia

Coucou 

 

Merci Rola :)

 

Non ça fait longtemps qu'il est bien malade mais en plus il s'est pété le col du fémur. Il est dans une bonne clinique mais c'est trop loin pour moi. Je l'aide pour des démarches ou autre par téléphone pour décharger un peu mon frère.

Mon père ne sait rien de mon état. C'est mieux pour son moral et sa santé, il a des soins très lourds et pas besoin d'autres soucis.

Pour le col du fémur, il semble récupérer assez vite.

 

Merci à toi pour ton soutien, je pense bien à toi aussi tous les jours.

 

Courage à toi @rola

 

Bisous.

 

Vega.

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Hisame

Hi Vegalia,

I’m sorry you’re feeling so bad.

I read that you have burning sensations in back, arms and legs. Is it inside your body or at the surface of your skin ?

This is one of my worse symptoms, called neuropathic pains.

Quelle vie 😥

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rola

salut vegalia 

j'espere que tu as bien dormi et que cette journée va bien se passer 

bon rétablissement pour ta papa 

moi aussi personne de mon entourage n'est au courant 

le fait de parler à tes personnes inconnus nous soulagent car ils  comprennent ce que nous vivons 

je t 'embrasse et prends bien soin de toi 

 à plus 

@Vegalia

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