Cathy4 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 2/16 3-5am awake, hungry so eat hard-boiled egg, obsessive thoughts 8am 20mcg levothyroxine, water 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, some anxiety b/c nephew still here and loud/annoying, morning exercises 10:30am .112mg klonopin, depart for walk in woods, feel good/strong during walk 12pm lunch, vacuum upstairs & litter box area, feel pretty good 1:30pm go to Target to get headphones & cat food, anxiety under control 3pm paint, listen to sports talk 4pm chest tension, breathe through it, gas 6pm take care of neighbors cats, eat dinner 7pm starts to hail outside, go with Mom to let sister’s dog out—the hail on the car is very very loud and start to be overcome by senses on freeway, try & breathe through. Seeing 5-car pile up on freeway increases anxiety. Near panic attack but try and lengthen exhale to help ease anxiety 8pm epsom salt bath, play with Henrietta 9pm really tired, get in bed, heating pad on lower back, meditation *forgot to mention I’ve been waking up having had sweated a lot at night. This is new. Not drenched in sweat, but definitely sweating much more than pre-withdrawal 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 2/17 4am awake, interrupted sleep for remainder of morning, woke up feeling I was living IN the dreams I had had. 8am levothyroxine, water, feed cats 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, exercises 10:30am .112mg klonopin, walk, sun very very bright, some anxiety & derealisation 12pm anxiety, tight shoulders and head just felt weird, like my brain wanted to throw up, ate a little bit of lunch 1:30pm put wood restore product on railings while Henrietta watched 2:30pm painted—kind of frenzied painting with palette knives 4pm felt better than in a.m. 5pm feed neighbor cats, take epsom salt bath 6:30pm ate some dinner but stomach didn’t like it much 7pm laid on bed & texted sister 8pm played ball with Henrietta 8:30pm in bed, meditation. Sooo tired 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 2/18 7am wake up from strange dreams, feel like I’m still in the dreams, lay in bed for a bit 7:30am 20mcg levothyroxine, water, a.m. exercises 8am feed neighbor cats & Henrietta, fix breakfast, still feel surreal 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, anxiety ramps up, speak with withdrawal friend on phone—conversation helps anxiety some 10:30am .112mg klonopin, walk 12pm lunch, unload & sort produce/farm box 1pm take bins to road, clean out refrigerator, feeling okay, still living in dream a bit 2pm paint 4pm spend time with neighbor cats, drink tea, talk w/therapist briefly 5pm paint a little more. Frustrated with lack of creativity today 6:30pm eat, heartburn & burping after healthy meal. 7pm epsom salt bath, heart palpitations, make ginger tea 8pm pet Henrietta, fold clothes, heart palpitations 8:30pm in bed, anxiety & heart palpitations plus ringing in right ear, ugh. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 2/19 7:30am another fairly decent sleep! 20mcg levothyroxine, water, a.m. exercises 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, walk w/neighbor’s dog in woods 10:30am .112mg klonopin 11:30am trip to hardware store, anxiety & heart palpitations in store (blood sugar a bit low, too, probably) 12:30pm eat tuna, feel a bit better 2pm heart palpitations, revarnish handrail 3pm go to gas station to get gas, some anxiety & strong gas odor from previous spill didn’t help 3:30pm call friend, paint, listen to sports radio 5pm eat salad, heart palpitations 8pm epsom salt bath, play with Henrietta 9pm in bed, heating pad on chest, some heart palpitations (due to changing hormones perhaps?) *functioning alright these days, gut seems to be a little better, meditation at night and affirmations throughout the day are helping, looking forward to tapering sertraline a little but also nervous about it. I know I made too many recent changes w/klonopin. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 2/20 7:30am not a great sleep, 20mcg levothyroxine, water, a.m. exercises, feel tired & out of it 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, clean up kitchen 10am begin repairing toilet, run into obstacles that are very frustrating. 10:30am .112mg klonopin 12pm take break from toilet repair to eat lunch, feel ungrounded, anxiety, ground swaying/moving 2pm toilet not leaking after creative problem-solving, hopefully it stays that way 3pm play with nephew outside 4pm paint, strange feelings in head, feels like brain wants to throw up again 6:30pm eat some dinner, ground moving/swaying, feel on verge of panic 8pm friend stops by, on verge of panic, head feels weird again, sounded like crickets in the shower 9pm strange day, WD symptoms definitely being intensified by hormonal changes b/c period trying to start. 9:30pm meditation & hopefully sleep 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted February 21, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 6:04 AM, Cathy4 said: *forgot to mention I’ve been waking up having had sweated a lot at night. This is new. Not drenched in sweat, but definitely sweating much more than pre-withdrawal It happened To me too, mostly during PMS. Really weird To wake up soaked Big hugs ❤ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 2/22 7:30am 20mcg levothyroxine, water, period starts, morning exercises 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, call withdrawal-friend and chat, feel that strange head/brain nausea 10:30am .112mg klonopin, feel very fatigued so no walk, sit & read 11:30am unload groceries, peel ginger, nephew arrives, play w/him despite anxiety 1:30pm lunch 2:30pm paint again, frustrated as not much seems to be turning out, continue to experiment 3:40pm allowed myself a little chocolate 5pm watched a tv show for the first time in months. 6:30pm ate dinner, brain-nausea returns and gets worse with chewing 8pm shower, make ginger lemon tea, clean up common areas, clean litter box, play with Henrietta 9pm in bed, meditation, another day of healing complete 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 9:21 AM, Erell said: It happened To me too, mostly during PMS. Really weird To wake up soaked I love when you stop by, @Erell!!! Big Hug back and hope you are well. ❤️ 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
will351 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Hi Cathy, Woke up last night having a panic attack. Let the waves wash over me. Hope you are well. Lynn 1993-2017 Sertraline 50 mgs 2017- 2018 Effexsor 75mgs 6 months 75 mgs Prozac. 5/18 3 months 20 mgs Pristiq. 8/18. 3 months 50 Paxil 9/18 - 4 months 20 mgs Klonopin .5 once a day 2019 Amitriptyline 2/19- 8/19 Klonopin .25 once a day Luvox 5/2019- 1/2020 withdrawal from 12.5 mgs on 1/9/2020, Sertraline 9/24/19-1/8/2020 50mgs, Rexalti .25 mg 1/2/20-1/17/20 PRESENT (Sertraline. 1/9/19 - present 62.5 mg) 7:00 am (Mirtazipine 9/18- present 7.5mgs). 7:30pm (Klonopin 12/24- 2/23/2020 (.125). 7:00am Klonopin 2/24/ 2020 (.112mg) (Luvox 12/2019- 6mgs). Luvox 2/1/2020 (3mgs) 1988- present. Lisinipril 40mgs blood pressure 9:00 Amlodipine besylate. 7:00am Lipitor cholesterol 40mgsam Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 6 hours ago, will351 said: Woke up last night having a panic attack. Let the waves wash over me. Hope you are well. Thanks, Lynn. Coincidentally, I did too, in the wee hours. I hope we both get some good relief soon. Today is rough, and I just witnessed a dog get hit by a truck. Sometimes I feel like I just can’t handle life. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 2/23 4:30am awoke in panic from nightmare, brain-nausea and a bit dizzy 8:30am restless light sleep after nightmare, take 20mcg levothyroxine, water 9am 67.5mgai sertraline, breakfast, still feel like living in the nightmare 10:30am .112mg klonopin 11:00am walk, anxiety throughout, fear, a bit of terror even (feel like I did last September when WD was in full swing, hopefully this is hormones) 12pm saw dog get hit by truck. Very disturbing and hard to see. Anxiety turns into panic 1:30-4:30pm stay in room while head feels weird (brain nausea), some derealization, terror, neuroemotions 4:30pm make salads, feed Henrietta, feel slightly better 6pm eat, stomach discomfort and gas afterwards 7pm paint 8:30pm play w/Henrietta, clean litter box 9:15pm in bed, hope for peaceful night, meditation 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 2/24 3am only awake for a little while 7:30am levothyroxine, water, exercises, cognitive fog 9am 60.3mgai sertraline, breakfast, shoulder & neck tension arose while eating, anxiety, then terror 10am waiting out bad anxiety/terror in room, not up for going for walk even, .112mg klonopin @ 10:30am 12:30pm bite of lunch, back to room, brain-nausea, tension 1:30pm short nap 4pm paint 6:30pm clean litter box, eat dinner, epsom salt bath 8:30pm make ginger tea, watch a little tv 9:30pm bed, meditation *started 60.3mg sertraline today, not sure if I’m stabilized enough to reduce, but time keeps passing and I feel like I’m not getting worse but not getting more stable... (shrug) idk. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 2/25 *spent the day in terror/panic, threw-up 4x, and diarrhea. It was a day from hell. I’m not sure if this is WD-related or...? 2/26 *currently recovering from yesterday, able to keep water down, now, and just took zoloft w/bite of banana. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 26, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 26, 2020 Cathy, did you ever get a pelvic checkup from a gynecologist? This is important to do periodically. Do you still have palpitations? Why did you decide to cut Klonopin on February 1 and Zoloft on February 24? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
will351 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 So sorry Cathy, it sounds like it might be a stomach bug. 1993-2017 Sertraline 50 mgs 2017- 2018 Effexsor 75mgs 6 months 75 mgs Prozac. 5/18 3 months 20 mgs Pristiq. 8/18. 3 months 50 Paxil 9/18 - 4 months 20 mgs Klonopin .5 once a day 2019 Amitriptyline 2/19- 8/19 Klonopin .25 once a day Luvox 5/2019- 1/2020 withdrawal from 12.5 mgs on 1/9/2020, Sertraline 9/24/19-1/8/2020 50mgs, Rexalti .25 mg 1/2/20-1/17/20 PRESENT (Sertraline. 1/9/19 - present 62.5 mg) 7:00 am (Mirtazipine 9/18- present 7.5mgs). 7:30pm (Klonopin 12/24- 2/23/2020 (.125). 7:00am Klonopin 2/24/ 2020 (.112mg) (Luvox 12/2019- 6mgs). Luvox 2/1/2020 (3mgs) 1988- present. Lisinipril 40mgs blood pressure 9:00 Amlodipine besylate. 7:00am Lipitor cholesterol 40mgsam Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Cathy, did you ever get a pelvic checkup from a gynecologist? This is important to do periodically. Hi @Altostrata, yes, I did, and nothing came back abnormal. 40 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Do you still have palpitations? Yes, I do. Typically right around when my period starts, but also some random ones here & there. 42 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Why did you decide to cut Klonopin on February 1 and Zoloft on February 24? Well, I suspected klonopin as a culprit for the gut issues, but reducing that hasn’t improved things. Then I thought “maybe my current state is withdrawal-normal and if I lower the zoloft I’ll feel better.” I know this doesn’t make a lot of sense. I can go back up to 67.5mg zoloft. I’m trying to figure out what I could do to feel better. Thanks, Alto 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, will351 said: So sorry Cathy, it sounds like it might be a stomach bug. Thanks, Lynn. Hoping it passes soon. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Giulietta Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Hello Cathy, I'm really sorry to hear about the tummy troubles. Have you tried using dramamine? Another member indicated that this helped her. Panic/tremors during sleep are awful and I found they passed (for the most part) over a few months. I still wake up perspiring/sweaty - and I am past menopause. I can say that the flushing is over. So sad about the poor dog. Hope you feel better soon. We all want to figure out to make ourselves feel better. This is a draining process but we will get there 'hook or by crook' per se. 😉 Big hug, G Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Guilietta said: Have you tried using dramamine Hi Guilietta, thanks for this idea, it is something I had not thought of. Yeah, the gut stuff has become a bit of a problem lately no matter how clean my diet is. 8 hours ago, Guilietta said: Panic/tremors during sleep are awful and I found they passed (for the most part) over a few months That’s really good news that they have subsided for you, Guilietta. I’m so glad. They are awful, aren’t they? This gives me hope mine will pass, too. 8 hours ago, Guilietta said: This is a draining process but we will get there 'hook or by crook' per se. 😉 I needed to hear this today, thank you. Lately I’ve been feeling very discouraged, I’m sure you can relate. Practicing gratitude and positive affirmations helps but sometimes the daily battle just gets to me. We are strong & courageous to be going through this. I hope your current symptoms dissolve with time, Guilietta. Thank you for being here. ❤️ 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Mentor RachelSusan Posted February 27, 2020 Mentor Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hi Cathy, I wanted to introduce myself to you. I'm Rachel and I am now following your posts. I've had all the symptoms you have, and I still occasionally get awakened by the rapid heart beat in the middle of the night. In fact in I know the 3 a.m.wake up call very well. It is dreadful but it will get better. You have come to right place for help. I've been doing this since 2016 but don't let that depress you, once you get stabilized the rest, while not perfect, is very doable. You will get your life back. You will be able to enjoy life once more. Hang in there. All my best, Rachel I am not a health professional in any way. I do not give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a professional medical practitioner. NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20, 575 to 500 (13%), Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER Feb. 2016 to June 2016 - Was on 150mg Zoloft. Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June 2016, reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016. From July 2016 to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper. STARTING SENSIBLE ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE Dec. 10 2016 - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg. Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mg. Feb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%). Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg. May 9, 2020 1.375 mg. June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%). July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%). August 15, 2020 1.0 mg. Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg. Nov. 28, 2020 .75mg. Jan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%). Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg. May 1, 2021 .375mg. May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg. October 2, 2021 .043mg. October 10, 2021 .038mg. October 23, 2021 .035mg. October 30, 2021 .032mg. Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg. Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg. Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY Link to comment
Giulietta Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Cathy4 said: eah, the gut stuff has become a bit of a problem lately no matter how clean my diet is. I think that eating a healthy diet makes a difference for this - as with everything - but different things work for different people. I honestly find solace in a chocolate covered biscuit (or 2) even though this is not recommended. Even though sugar is not good for anxiety (look at kids after Halloween for example!) - some people are exquisitely sensitive to it in WD or not. Caffeine is one of the worst things for a quesy stomach. Things that may quiet my stomach (and amongst the worst things in the world) is ginger ale without the bubbles. No artificial sweeteners in any kind. I wonder if antacids would help? Have you tried? 7 hours ago, Cathy4 said: They are awful, aren’t they? This gives me hope mine will pass, too. they are and they will pass - I think some symptoms take longer for some people than others. When they first happened it took me a while to figure out that they were anxiety and would pass and I had to cope with the discomfort. 😉 8 hours ago, Cathy4 said: Lately I’ve been feeling very discouraged, 8 hours ago, Cathy4 said: Practicing gratitude and positive affirmations helps but sometimes the daily battle just gets to me. We are strong & courageous to be going through this. I am grateful for better days and particularly when I can ambulate mostly normally. And not like a 10 month old toddler. LOL. At night I try to right down what I am grateful for - and what good things I managed to do that day. Hang in there, G/ Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, RachelSusan said: You have come to right place for help. I've been doing this since 2016 but don't let that depress you, once you get stabilized the rest, while not perfect, is very doable. You will get your life back. You will be able to enjoy life once more. Hang in there. Thank you so much, Rachel. I had read some of your thread awhile ago. Your zoloft taper gives me hope. I appreciate so much the kind words of encouragement from you and @Guilietta. Honestly, this forum has been a lifeline for me. Hug. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Guilietta said: Caffeine is one of the worst things for a quesy stomach. Things that may quiet my stomach (and amongst the worst things in the world) is ginger ale without the bubbles. No artificial sweeteners in any kind. I wonder if antacids would help? Have you tried? Guilietta, I have not tried antacids. I certainly could, I’ve just been afraid to take any sort of pill (however benign) since this started. You made me smile with the ginger ale & chocolate biscuits. I love chocolate! Yes, I’m definitely staying away from caffeine. I find I can tolerate a little sugar, but then sometimes I feel like it affects my gut negatively (strangely it doesn’t seem to affect anxiety too too much). Such a puzzle, isn’t this? What works, what doesn’t work, what changes from week to week... whew. Thanks, G 🤗 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Giulietta Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Cathy4 said: I have not tried antacids. I certainly could, I’ve just been afraid to take any sort of pill (however benign) since this started. I don't take them either - and would have to stagger them with gabapentin if I did - a 2 hour window since if affects the metabolism of the drug. I don't like taking meds and OTCs in general given all the meds I am required to take. I am going to put the crestor on hold in case that is causing some of my muscle pain and weakness - but honestly doubt it. Worth a shot. 3 hours ago, Cathy4 said: I feel like it affects my gut negatively (strangely it doesn’t seem to affect anxiety too too much). Tea - whether green, white or chamomile is off my list. I have cut back on the coffee. Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Guilietta said: am going to put the crestor on hold in case that is causing some of my muscle pain and weakness - but honestly doubt it. Worth a shot. Yeah, totally, Guilietta, I mean, it’s worth a try because who knows—maybe since you’ve tapered on the cymbalta, some side effects from the crestor or now more prominent (?). (I know this is unlikely, but who knows?). Crestor is a statin, yeah? I’m glad you’re still able to have a little coffee. I’m of the mind that any small pleasures we can derive during this time are important to maintaining sanity. Lol. Cathy 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted February 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 28, 2020 There is a good possibility that the crestor is contributing to your aches and pains. Body ache and muscle weakness are two very common side effects of statins. During my taper I was having a lot of trouble with muscle aches and general pain. After cutting my dose to a quarter of what was prescribed I started feeling a lot better. That was many years ago and my blood work has been fine ever since, so the higher dose was actually not needed. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 2/27 3am awake but not too anxious, able to return to sleep 7:30am 20mcg levothyroxine, water, drink probiotic & do a couple exercises, feel hungry (good sign) 9am 60.3mgai sertraline, small breakfast, massive anxiety, derealization 10:30am .112mg klonopin, paced around house a bit (wanted to stick close to bathroom) 12:30pm phone call w/withdrawal friend 1pm light yard work, no appetite for lunch 3pm paint, feel very disconnected 5pm epsom salt bath 6:30pm small dinner, not hungry 7pm watch tv show, awful headache w/shoulder, chest, throat tension 8:30pm try a little yogurt, headache remains (this is not a typical headache, it’s like someone is squeezing my head, like it’s in a vise) 9:15pm in bed, happy to be through another difficult day, prepare for meditation *I know I need to practice patience, but man, I’m so tired of feeling bad and being so limited. I never imagined trying to come off psych drugs could be this difficult, and some friends are starting to doubt. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Giulietta Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 22 hours ago, brassmonkey said: During my taper I was having a lot of trouble with muscle aches and general pain. Sorry to hear this - I wonder if it limited your functionality? 22 hours ago, Cathy4 said: maybe since you’ve tapered on the cymbalta, some side effects from the crestor or now more prominent (?). (I know this is unlikely, but who knows?). Crestor is a statin, yeah? This is a brilliant thought. Crestor is a statin - another huge money maker. They are also I learned consisdered one of the most dangerous drugs - #5 I think - 22 hours ago, Cathy4 said: I’m of the mind that any small pleasures we can derive during this time are important to maintaining sanity. Lol. Here, here. Andes mints are nice because they are small, 25 calories and not so much sugar - if you like chocolate andmint. 19 hours ago, Cathy4 said: awful headache w/shoulder, chest, throat tension I hate throat tension, too....and the feeling / difficulty swallowing... 19 hours ago, Cathy4 said: in bed, happy to be through another difficult day, prepare for meditation it's the best time of the day isn't it! and the right attitude - another day through WD. success by i tself 19 hours ago, Cathy4 said: I know I need to practice patience, but man, I’m so tired of feeling bad and being so limited. I never imagined trying to come off psych drugs could be this difficult, and some friends are starting to doubt. All of us here feel the same exact way - and repeat it. It's exhausting. Frustrating. We are so tired of all this. It's impssible to imagine unless you've lived through it. Any drug that does this to people - prescribed by someone in a white coat with a license to practice medicine (aargh) is good not to take....so we have to cling with out path what do you mean by some friends are starting to doubt? Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, Giulietta said: it's the best time of the day isn't it! and the right attitude - another day through WD. success by i tself It is, isn’t it? I never appreciated the evening so much, Guilietta. I’m fairly fortunate with sleep compared to many in our community, so for this I can remain very grateful. 42 minutes ago, Giulietta said: Here, here. Andes mints are nice because they are small, 25 calories and not so much sugar - if you like chocolate andmint. LOL, we are in luck! I DO like mint in chocolate. Good idea, thank you. 43 minutes ago, Giulietta said: what do you mean by some friends are starting to doubt? I have a couple friends who don’t believe psych drugs can create the symptoms we are experiencing... one of them texted me yesterday after I explained my gut issues: “that’s pretty extreme for withdrawal, don’t you think?” I was livid. She claims the prozac she’s on has helped her ibs. (I shrugged and said “that’s great.”). There are people in my life who tend to believe that rather than withdrawal, this is my old anxiety and depression and I just need to power through. I’ve tried to explain that the symptoms I’m having are far different than anything I’ve had in the past, but to no avail. Of course I have anxiety right now, both withdrawal-anxiety and “my” anxiety, but the feelings, emotions, sensations since I’ve tapered are so distorted and outside the realm of normal human experience, it’s just difficult to convey this process. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 2/29 12:30am awoke disoriented in that weird brain panic where it’s like a night terror kind of but I’m awake. 8am 20mcg levothyroxine, water 9am 60.3mgai sertraline, small breakfast, stomach sour—burping, rumbling, etc. do a few exercises 10am work really hard to get courage up to drive to store. Focusing so much energy on this I forget my 10:30am klonopin 11:30am while on freeway, I remember I forgot to take klonopin! Anxiety escalates. Get to parking lot. Self-talk in car. 12:30pm .112mg evil klonopin, make guacamole and see how stomach receives it. 1:30pm while sitting at computer, huge wave of headache, fatigue, intense depression hit. Lay down for a few minutes. Friend calls. 2:30pm feel very hopeless, headache still present plus shoulder/chest/neck tension 3pm force-feed myself snack (just not much appetite plus sour acidic stomach), work to sand rust off radio flyer wagon in order to strip & restore 5pm stomach pain, but other symptoms better, inventory paintings for art showcase, sign new paintings, clean up garage 8pm try a little chicken & broccoli, make ginger tea w/fresh ginger, play with Henrietta 9pm shower, ground-moving a bit (this has not happened in quite awhile) 10pm bed, heating pad, prepare for meditation 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 3/1 7:30am 20mcg levothyroxine, water, slept fairly well. Surprised to wake up with no stomach pain and pretty clear-headed 9am 60.3mgai, breakfast, feel okay(!), chest tension & scratchy throat 10am walk in woods, take .112mg klonopin @ 10:30am 11:30am practice going out again—another store w/self-checkout. This went surprisingly smoothly 12:45pm ate a little lunch, still feel alright, go to garage to work on wagon & paintings 3pm speak w/brother on phone 4pm more painting 6:30pm epsom salt bath 7:15pm eat dinner 8pm watch tv show, make ginger tea, stomach pain returns. Feel discouraged that stomach hurts again. *It is still a puzzle to me: how to distinguish the difference between still being destabilized and being withdrawal-normal. If one has never experienced either before this process, how do you tell them apart? *biggest challenge right now are the eating issues. Stomach pain/irritation, trying to feed myself when I’m not hungry (total lack of appetite), not knowing what foods will irritate my gut or if basically everything/anything will. 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 3/2 7am stir in bed... best sleep I’ve had in a long, long time. So relieved/surprised. 7:30am 20mcg levothyroxine, water, a.m. exercises, made plan for day to help me stay focused on the things that are under my control. 9am 60.3mgai sertraline, breakfast, feel okay(!), offer to take neighbor’s dog with me on trail even though the social interaction caused anxiety. Lots of self-talk. 10:30am take .112mg klonopin while on walk, cloudy & drizzly— nice for walking, shoulder & neck tension and brain-nausea but not unbearable 11:30am drive to Home Depot, get paint for refurbishing wagon, some anxiety 12:30pm make chicken salad & guacamole—great relief to eat and keep food down, therapist calls and we talk about Cadbury creme eggs & ice cream. 1:30pm make sweet potato purée, peel & chop load of ginger for tea & smoothies, soft rain is soothing 3pm work more on wagon, feel good. 5:30pm make bed with clean sheets, fold clothes 6:30pm eat dinner, listen to news about virus in background, fill out ballot 7:30pm shower, play with Henrietta 8pm watch show 9:30pm in bed, check up on people’s threads, so grateful for another better day. Meditation 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 3/3 7:30am 20mcg levothyroxine, water, shoulder & neck tension, feel a little disoriented and still in dreams 8:30am 60.3mgai sertraline, breakfast, do a.m. exercises, unload farm box & sort veggies 9:15am anxiety & brain nausea, call and speak with withdrawal friend, anxiety lessens as conversation goes on 10:30am .112mg klonopin, head out for walk, go at a brisk pace, feel alright 12:30pm eat tuna, acid reflux & slight stomachache, can’t say this is due to tuna b/c often eat tuna with no problem 1:30pm go to drugstore to look for card for friend & Cadbury creme eggs even though they have tons of sugar. Find neither. Develop some anxiety in drugstore, walk out and go to drive-through Starbucks to pick a coffee up for Mom. 2:30pm stomach better, start work on wagon 4pm write a couple cards to friends, make phone call, make liver cleanse tea 5pm more wagon work, then oil painting 7pm dinner, clean litter box, take bins to road, quick shower 8:30pm ice knee, return phone call, get in bed, read, prepare for meditation *really grateful to be having some days where gut issues are manageable and head feels clearer for the most part (except mornings) 1 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 3/4 *fairly stable today with anxiety at times and acid reflux, stomachache throughout afternoon and in to evening. Really grateful for a pretty solid day. 😊 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
Giulietta Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 HelloCathy How areyou? On 3/4/2020 at 12:01 AM, Cathy4 said: really grateful to be having some days where gut issues are manageable and head feels clearer for the most part (except mornings) I am happy for you. We savor every day when we feel decently. 🙂 I found some info on the Ashton Manual about muscle pain, imbalance, etc. I posted this on the thread - and also onmine in case you periodically see what I post. Intersting that these symptoms are not particularly noted for people getting off ADs...Since we spoke about this I thought I would note this here. Hugs G. Link to comment
Cathy4 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Giulietta said: I am happy for you. We savor every day when we feel decently. 🙂 Hi Giulietta! Thank you, yes, it is quite a relief to have some days where the fog has cleared some and the anxiety is somewhat manageable. It’s strange how things can all of a sudden shift. 2 hours ago, Giulietta said: I posted this on the thread - and also onmine in case you periodically see what I post. Excellent, I will take a look. How are you doing this week? Hug, Cathy 1999-2006 Luvox, xanax 2007-2009 Prozac, xanax, klonopin 2009-2018 Zoloft, xanax, klonopin 2019 January zoloft 150mg, February 100mg, April 75mg, mid-May 50mg, July 25mg, (xanax .5mg or .25mg as needed) August zoloft 25mg HOLD, CT xanax, reinstate 50mg zoloft, September reinstate 100mg zoloft w/.375 klonopin, mid-September lower to 75mg zoloft 2020 January: .125mg klonopin February 1st: .112mg klonopin February 24th: 60.3mgai zoloft 2020 December 1st: off klonopin completely currently on 15mgai zoloft Link to comment
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