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Do you feel better or worse taking 1.65mg Prozac?

 

You can take it as long as you wish.

 

rola, you may have noticed every time you ask a question, I ask you "how do you feel?" I need to know this before taking any guesses. Please save me some work and tell me how you feel before you ask the question!

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sorry, I don't know if this is well translated but I told you that I felt better but I still have balance problems and that only anxiety increased the 4 week;

thank you

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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You have more anxiety now? What times of day is this better or worse? What symptoms got better?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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@Altostrata

yes I have more anxiety now I didn't have any.

since the 4 week summer intensifies in the evening .

before I started proxac, I had these balance problems and they're still here.

but otherwise I'm better than paxil.

and the anxious I manage to handle it .

my only problem right now is the balance losses .

I think I'll be staying on prozac for a few more weeks . to stabilize me .

because I thought 1.65 mg wasn't enough, but I'm no expert .

and I don't trust my doctor .he wants me to go back to 10 milligrams. he tells me 1.65 milligrams isn't enough .

thanks

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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rola, every time you have a question, post your daily notes, as I have requested many times:

 

 

I still need to know when you take your drugs, how you feel before and after you take them, and what times of day your symptoms are worse.

 

Please help me by doing this. It's very frustrating to have to ask for it over and over.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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ok thanks 

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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hello ,

Week 1 February to 6 February 4 switch week 1.65 mg prozac .

bedtime at 11: 30, wake up at 6: 00.

6: 00am, I don't feel good .

8: 30, am1.65 milligrams fluoxetine .

9: 00 to 5: 00 pm I'm fine .

18H pm I feel sick loss of balance headache 2

19H pm meal

19h30pm I lie down because I can't stand.the state of sickness continues .

I go to sleep around 11: 30pm .

I don't go into detail every day because the symptoms always start at the same time .

I don't feel very well from 6: 00 P. M. loss of équilibre, headache 2

.is it possible that the anxiety is causing this ?

good weekend

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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It looks to me like you're not taking enough fluoxetine, it's wearing off in the evening. If I were you, I'd increase to 1.75mg fluoxetine, see if this helps.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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@altostrata

Hello, can I go to 1.75 mg even if I was before on 1.65 mg paxil ? Thanks

 

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Hi rola, 

Iam with altostrata that the effect of fluoxetune ends at the evening so you start to suffer, I know altostrata advised to raise the dose but why don't u budge the time of having fluoxetine dose one or two hours that you have its effect in your blood at night, without raising the dose?

Am I right? @Altostrata, sorry if there is any mistake with my words.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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@Altostrata

Hello altostrata

I can't prelever 0.43 ml so 1.75 mg with my insulin syringe how can I get this dose?.

and as I was on 1.65 mg paxil and I read on prozac switch https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25911132 so if I follow this Prozac 40mg study equivaut to 34 mg paxil.

so I should have taken 0.48 ml of prozac if I was 1.65 mg of paxil .

I don't know if I should follow this study .

Thanks

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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19 hours ago, rola said:

@Altostrata

Hello altostrata

I can't prelever 0.43 ml so 1.75 mg with my insulin syringe how can I get this dose?.

and as I was on 1.65 mg paxil and I read on prozac switch https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25911132 so if I follow this Prozac 40mg study equivaut to 34 mg paxil.

so I should have taken 0.48 ml of prozac if I was 1.65 mg of paxil .

I don't know if I should follow this study .

Thanks

 

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Hi

from 5 to 10 February 1.65 mg prozac I enter in the 5 weeks stabilization prozac.

the symptoms are always the same 

sleeping at 11: 30pm and I get up at 6: 00am

. 8: 30am 1.65 mg prozac .

in the morning I'll always feel it's dizziness .

a little anxious around 11: 00am .

and around 6 pm it gets worse .

I start today 1.75 mg as you advised me altostrata 

good day 

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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@Altostrata

Hello

I went up today and all day I was not well .

anxious all day, headache, insinuation, balance, increased blood pressure . is that normal ? is it possible that I get the effects right away when I have increased only 0.1 mg .

what should I do ? shall I continue? 

thank you for your response .

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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What do you mean by "increased blood pressure"?

 

When did you get the headache?

 

On 2/3/2020 at 11:21 AM, Altostrata said:

I still need to know when you take your drugs, how you feel before and after you take them, and what times of day your symptoms are worse.

 

Please help me by doing this. It's very frustrating to have to ask for it over and over.

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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10 hours ago, rola said:

Hi

from 5 to 10 February 1.65 mg prozac I enter in the 5 weeks stabilization prozac.

the symptoms are always the same 

sleeping at 11: 30pm and I get up at 6: 00am

. 8: 30am 1.65 mg prozac .

in the morning I'll always feel it's dizziness .

a little anxious around 11: 00am .

and around 6 pm it gets worse .

I start today 1.75 mg as you advised me altostrata 

good day 

my blood pressure is 16/9, and I've been having a headache all day today .

 

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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1 hour ago, rola said:

my blood pressure is 16/9, and I've been having a headache all day today .

 

Headaches are a part of WD. I had them and tinnitus for a solid 8 months straight. I thought it would never end, now I get them on and off. It is improving! 

I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. 

 

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12 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

Headaches are a part of WD. I had them and tinnitus for a solid 8 months straight. I thought it would never end, now I get them on and off. It is improving! 

Hi thank you I hope you're okay ; thank you for stopping by.

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Hello,

I've come back to 1.65 mg I've had a horrible day with 1.75 mg . I'm in my fifth week .

good day

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Week 14 February to 21 February

Week 6 week at 1.65 mg prozac .

I go to bed at 11.30 pm and wake up at 7.00 am.

8.00 am 1.65 mg prozac .

I get up with a strong anxiety 10 .

11AM anxiety 10 . it lasts 10 minutes .

17pm anxiety 10-

19 PM anxiety 10 .

Week 7 to 1.65 mg prozac

8am 1.65 mg prozac .

I get up with great anxiety . it lasts all morning .

5 p.m. anxiety lasts 20 minutes .

Week 6 and 7 seem to be harder a lot of anxiety . maybe I'm underdosed .? @Altostrata

when I went up like you told me at 1,75mg , I felt even worse . so I just did it for a day . what do you think ?

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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Do you feel better or worse after you take Prozac in the morning? Do you feel better in the evening?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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@Altostrata

Do you feel better or worse after you take Prozac in the morning? 

the 6 week I started to feel bad about taking prozac before no .

Do you feel better in the evening?

I feel worse at night and the ones since Week 6 .

thanks 

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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rola, please note EVERY TIME you post here, I have to ask you the same questions about your symptom pattern throughout the day.

 

What time of day (o'clock) does the anxiety increase?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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On 2/24/2020 at 9:19 AM, rola said:

Week 14 February to 21 February

Week 6 week at 1.65 mg prozac .

I go to bed at 11.30 pm and wake up at 7.00 am.

8.00 am 1.65 mg prozac .

I get up with a strong anxiety 10 .

11AM anxiety 10 . it lasts 10 minutes .

17pm anxiety 10-

19 PM anxiety 10 .

Week 7 to 1.65 mg prozac

8am 1.65 mg prozac .

I get up with great anxiety . it lasts all morning .

5 p.m. anxiety lasts 20 minutes .

Week 6 and 7 seem to be harder a lot of anxiety . maybe I'm underdosed .? @Altostrata

when I went up like you told me at 1,75mg , I felt even worse . so I just did it for a day . what do you think ?

@Altostrata Hello I put you the hours at which I have anxiety I do it over a week because it is always the same time . I get up in the morning I have anxiety after I take my medication at 8: 30 1.65 mg fluoxetine and the since the 6th week and 7th week anxiety has increased and I have it in the morning at 12: 00 and 18: 00 .

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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rola, please post 24 hours of your current symptom pattern at a time. I cannot assume your symptom pattern is the same from day to day, and neither can you.

 

It seems the morning Prozac might be causing anxiety after you take it. It's unclear what's happening in the evening. To test this, can you take it an hour later each day until you're taking it at 10 a.m.? You will need to post drug and symptom notes each day.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hello, I come to give you my news after a long absence. So I made the switch paxil fluoxetine . I stayed with the fluo for about 4 months but unfortunately the switch didn’t work. the first two months were hard but bearable but the third month was terrible. and the symptoms got worse when I had my period knowing I didn’t have it for 2 months .'I found myself in the hospital and I had to take back paxil 20mg after a month everything was back in order I felt very good . In the third month I had to go to 30mg because the anxieties came back I am fine for the moment.
then my decision to return to paxil was very difficult because I arrived at 1.65mg .
but I do not regret anything because I live again . during my withdrawal ,I lost several jobs I did not see my family ,my spouse left me . and the fact of the covid crisis I told myself life is short I can’t stay like this to fight.
So thank you for your support; I think I’ll go back to withdrawal when I retire when I don’t have to work and support my family.

@Altostrata @singe laiton

thanks a lot 

 

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Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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You're welcome, rola. Good to hear you're feeling all right now.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Je viens vous donner des nouvelles. Après avoir repris le paxil il y a deux ans suite à l'échec de la passerelle prozac.
Ma vie a changé, j'allais mieux et je vais bien maintenant, alors j'ai décidé ce lundi de recommencer sewaHello l de paxil avec la méthode brassmonkey.
J'ai trouvé une pharmacie qui en fait en gélules, j'ai un peu peur du sevrage mais j'essaie de rester positive.
J'ai donc réduit comme suit.
05/05/23 29.5mg
15/05/23 28.5mg
22/05/23 27.75mg
29/05/23 au 25/06/23 27mg 
26/06/23 26.32mg 
Je ne trouve pas le calculateur brassmonkey sur le placer.
En avez-vous mis des neufs ? 
J'ai utilisé l'ancien et le nouveau ne me donne pas les mêmes calculs.
Merci, j'espère que tu vas bien. 

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Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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hello

I'm here to give you some news. After starting paxil again two years ago following the failure of the prozac gateway.
My life has changed, I was better and I'm doing well now, so I decided this Monday to start sewaHello l of paxil again with the brassmonkey method.
I found a pharmacy that makes it in capsules, I'm a little afraid of withdrawal but I try to stay positive.
So I have reduced as follows.
05/05/23 29.5mg
15/05/23 28.5mg
22/05/23 27.75mg
05/29/23 to 06/25/23 27mg 
06/26/23 26.32mg 
I can't find the brassmonkey calculator on the placer.
Did you put in new ones? 
I used the old one and the new one doesn't give me the same calculations.
Thanks, hope you are doing well.

@brassmonkey

@Altostrata

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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7 hours ago, rola said:

hello

I'm here to give you some news. After starting paxil again two years ago following the failure of the prozac gateway.
My life has changed, I was better and I'm doing well now, so I decided this Monday to start sewaHello l of paxil again with the brassmonkey method.
I found a pharmacy that makes it in capsules, I'm a little afraid of withdrawal but I try to stay positive.
So I have reduced as follows.
05/05/23 29.5mg
15/05/23 28.5mg
22/05/23 27.75mg
05/29/23 to 06/25/23 27mg 
06/26/23 26.32mg 
I can't find the brassmonkey calculator on the placer.
Did you put in new ones? 
I used the old one and the new one doesn't give me the same calculations.
Thanks, hope you are doing well.

@brassmonkey

@Altostrata

hello rola, it is nice to see you again here. you remind me of some lovely moments i spent here on SA. glad to hear you want to give it another try and i hope the best for you with that. all my good wishes for you with your taper and i hope it goes smooth without any troubles. reach out once you need me dear.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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We've been having problems with the calculators, don't know when they will be fixed.

 

Your calculations look correct for doing a total of 5% a reduction cycle.

 

Best od luck with the taper and keep us informed on how it is going.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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@brassmonkeyGood morning
I hope you are well. thank you for your answer.
I wanted to ask you I read on your thread that you got to 10mg. You reduced 10% over 6 weeks leaving three weeks at the same dose. Is that right?
do you think it is necessary to do it for a dose of 30mg and wait to reach 10mg to do it over 6 weeks.
make a reduction of 4 weeks and then when I reach the dose of 10 mg the I do over 6 weeks?
I don't know if I make myself understood.
THANKS

Deroxat (paxil) 20 mg pour 10 ml

12/14 18 mg réduction de 5% tous les mois 13/01/15 14.4mg 15/08 9,6 mg 16.01 reduction3% 8 mg par mois 16/02 7,8 mg 18.02 3 mg

18.03 2,92 à 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg 3% 5 mai 2018 2,74 mg

 18/06 2,66 mg

26/06/18 2,58 mg en 26 jours

19/03 1,78 mg 15 jours

19/04 1, 64 mg 21 jours

19/05 1,58 mg

24/07/19 1,44 mg

14/08/19 1,4 mg

27/09/19 1,48 mg

10/09/19 retour à 1,58 mg  27/12/19 retour à 1,65mg direct transition to fluoxetine the 11/01/2020 1,65mg

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The extra two weeks is very important to let things stabilize. After just four weeks many people have unresolved symptoms that still need to be addresses. Especially if they are using the Brassmonkey Slide method and doing 2.5% a week. There has to be a break in there to let things settle out. There may be a bit of leeway at the higher doses, but it is not worth the risk. If symptoms build up in the background, they will eventually cause a crash that takes a lot longer to recover from than the original slow taper would have taken.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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