juneight: need help for road map with Remeron

[juneight]

Thank you for your kind answer @brassmonkeybut i dont agree with you partially. Because, when i was in wd of three drugs, i started rem and also tapering rem. The day i started rem was also the day i started to taper it. That means i didnt become addicted rem 15 mg. If i held my dose at 15 for a while then started tapering, it would be meaningful that the things i live now is because of fast taper. The movements in my face and nerves still say me i am in wd of hospital process. So this gave me hope. Anyway, the reality is only one which i live is a strong anx. wave. I am trying to distract. Thank you again

[juneight]

@Shep @Sassenach@brassmonkeyand others. While having a great wave from March 11 to from 28, i got a break and had a relief for 7-8 days. I have never had it in this process. It was amazing after a 10 month suffering, things werent perfect but pretty good so that i started to dream about future, job and other things. But then i got hit by much stronger wave in which my face nerves have been very bad and anx. also has been the worse than before. It is hellish and as if it wont end. Should i hope about the great improvements that will come in near future? I need hope in these times that will make me push it

[DaBro]

Juneight, we are in the same place. I am 17 months post zero after a FT off Sertraline and have had 3 strong, debilitating waves in November, February and April. Each was different- November was Nausea, February was more gastric and April was more dizziness and Anxiety. What I will say is that I am much sharper after each wave and I’m hoping I’ve just been through the 10,12 and 18 month waves in months 13, 15 and 17. The first 12 months at zero were pretty similar with me just about surviving a week in work before crashing at the weekend. I quit work in month 12 and wonder if this is giving time for proper healing. 

 

My strategy is to go with the rest when my body feels tired. I’m in bed 12-14 hours regularly but I figure healing is taking place. I also have charted my feelings each day since I stopped the Sertraline, so I can remind myself it’s just something that will pass and bigger windows are ahead. My wife says I’m getting better with each wave. 

 

Keep the faith. Today I’m on my first good day after 2 weeks of the 17 month wave. I am nearer the end each day. Like you I’m hoping no more big waves...

[DaBro]

I should have added. I get facial twitches (mouth), numb and tingling hands and my left eye closes involuntarily during each wave. 

[juneight]

Thank you for your kind support @DaBro. I hope you are off all drugs, but unfortunately i am still on a medication. This makes me sad about the process. I hope this condition is not obstacle in front of healing. I dont understand why you quit the job, because it is not important how hard it is but also it is only one way of distraction.

Two months ago i have been getting a bad wave and then i had a pleasant one week window, then again i am now getting a hard wave in which i suffer so much as if it will never pass. My face nerves are so dynamic and anx. drives me crazy. I hope this ll end soon, because this is too hard...

[DaBro]

Sorry, I misunderstood where you are on the journey. For me I realised that the meds were not helping so I decided to stop whatever the pain, though I was expecting a few weeks or months, not 1.5 years and counting. I found this site when I was looking for help/answers in my 10 month post 0 wave. 

 

I have also found it useful to read my diary records of how I felt in the windows to remind myself that waves will pass, but I know how hard that can be in the worst days especially when the wave lasts several weeks. I did lots of walking and my cat and kindle have been my companions when I cannot sleep. I tried most supplements without success and ended up just riding the waves. You will get there and it will be better than staying as you were. Remember the anx isn’t real and remember the good window just gone. There will be another. 

 

Thanks for the job comment. There were a lot of other factors involved in my decision than the WD, so while I wouldn’t recommend quitting generally, it was right for me. 

[Shep]

On 4/16/2020 at 4:07 PM, juneight said:

@Shep @Sassenach@brassmonkeyand others. While having a great wave from March 11 to from 28, i got a break and had a relief for 7-8 days. I have never had it in this process. It was amazing after a 10 month suffering, things werent perfect but pretty good so that i started to dream about future, job and other things. But then i got hit by much stronger wave in which my face nerves have been very bad and anx. also has been the worse than before. It is hellish and as if it wont end. Should i hope about the great improvements that will come in near future? I need hope in these times that will make me push it

 

June, from your signature, it looks like you made a reduction on March 25. Is that correct?

 

Perhaps hold for awhile and see if your nervous system can recover and stabilize. I'm sorry you're in a bad wave, but yes, it will get better. Never give up hope! 

[juneight]

I would like to continue giving good news about myself after a 7&8 seven days windows at the first days of this month. But, things are a bit hard for me, now. What can be done for panic attacks? I have not had it neither in previous life nor in wd. The lump in throat feeling sense has been intense recently and it makes me panicky. I am doing guided meditation and have been doing it already, it is useful, but then i couldnt distract. We are home mostly and couldnt go out, this also makes the things hard. As if the things would be permanent. I know i have made so many miles for healing to start a conscious taper again but i must get through this also and i need your support again. Need the advices for some relief and distraction...

[Erell]

Hello Juneight, 

 

Anxiety is a quite common symptom, can also be exacerbeted during lockdown. 

I know it too well as it is one of my main symptoms. 

 

With Anxiety, there is no much to do, except acceptance.

Sometimes, when anxiety is too intense, all we can do is distract, and it is perfectly ok.

 

I invite you to take a look to the "Symptoms and selfcare" section, some topics give tips to deal with anxiety.

 

14 hours ago, juneight said:

The lump in throat feeling sense has been intense recently and it makes me panicky.

 

Dr. Claire Weeks did pioneering work in dealing with anxiety.  What you describe is what she called "secondary fear" or "fear of the fear."  These links of Dr. Weekes might be helpful to you.

 

Audio:  How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes

Edited April 27, 2020 by Erell

[juneight]

Thank you for kind response. I havent made dramatic changes and i have been holding for a while prior to this. I have had anx. during this process, but i had a 7 day relief after a long suffering. After that this anx. is much stronger than previous times. As if it will never pass. I wonder now whether a linear wd is possible or not. Everbody suffer like that and continue to push it? Some people say healing isnt possible unless one is free from medication. It has been almost 1 year in which i have never planned a vacation, short trip etc. I know waves are tricky, but i just want to be anx. free or tolerable anx. to continue tapering again. I hope windows are more frequent as most people encourage me and then finally comes to a form windows are my life, then give a me couragement to go on a linear suffering for some days after cuts. I agree this type of suffering...

[juneight]

Hi everbody,

I had beden suffering anx. for 10 straight months after CT. Then i had a window in April for 7&8 days. Then i got hit by a severe wave for 3 weeks, it hasnt gone yet(some panick attack and tight throat), but i have been taking good moments for 3&4 days now. It is a sign of healing and i have started to take improvements.

 

Now, i am thinking to push it again. What can you say about that?

[Altostrata]

Hello, juneight. If you are feeling better, why not enjoy that for a few months?

 

You've had a hard time, your nervous system may finally be calming. I'd let it rest for a while before trying another reduction.

[juneight]

Alto, i hope you are right. But, looking at people who completed their tapers in spite of the waves and got success, one can want to push no matter how this get you in a weird process. I think "one cant heal unless he/she is off completely" motto underlies this thought.

 

When i was writing previous message, i meant intense nerve pressure has lifted a little in previous window and this semi-window now. But, anxiety hasnt dissolve yet. For example, i have slept with high discomfort yesterday and i have been disturbed by a severe anxiety(tight throat etc.) at 5 am. This is the first time i had been woken up by anxiety in almost one year. I had throat &chest pressure, but panicky feelings never accompanied them. Lookin at this condition, sometimes i live hardship to understand whether i am healing or not. Of course i am, but things can be hard to distract in these times like today's morning. Lastly, i had too many gluten products(cake&broad) before bedtime and now i am curious whether it added some to that problem or not.

 

One more thing. What did you do in your hard times? I mean really hard. I woke up this morning with suffering, tried to play some xbox from 7 am to 8 am, not worked but spent some time, then went to bed, but it didnt come well. Now i am searching in internet. At these times, i should find a way to make other day until evenings. It isn't possible to do meditation all day. One night shouldnt erase previous windows earnings.

 

Any message is appreciated...

[DaBro]

Juneight,

 

I’m a little different in that I completed my FT in October 2018, but have had 18 months of Windows and Waves. I feel like I am near the end after a long time asking the same questions as you about whether this will ever end and when. What I can say is that I started seeing a pattern in my waves. Firstly I would get nausea and fatigue for some days, then it would change to head clicking, tingling hands and involuntarily facial spasms, then the 3rd and final phase started with brain zaps and finished with insomnia, anxiety and 4-5am wake ups. The good news is that I would feel better each window so I trusted that healing was taking place. I told myself that the anxiety and insomnia was my mind becoming free from the numbing of the drug and a marker of improvement and to manage with CBT, distraction and meditation rather than meds. In the moments of anxiety I did a lot of distraction tactics, the brain never stops thinking but it can only think about 1 thing at once, so i’d do A to Z of countries, rivers, cities, fruit....anything to break the cycle. I’d also do lots of walking with music in the morning. XBox is a good distraction but physical activity will also produce ‘feelgood’ endorphins. 

 

As for dose, I can’t advise. I reached a point where I decided each wave was healing and the faster they came the fewer there were left to come. That may or may not be true, but it helped me put a positive spin on some difficult times. And the 5am wake ups with an overactive mind were a sign a window was coming soon and there was 1 less wave to go. 

[juneight]

@DaBro thank you for your kind support. You are lucky than most of us because you arent still on medication. Anyway, we all heal butvi think medications prolong the process a little.

 

Coming on the waves, there are lots of things about to talk. First of all and fortunately, i have suffered anxiety as a major issue of suffering. The others werent important. So, if i name it as a wave, i have been already having it in all process. Everything is mesed up. Two months ago, i have started to take a brutal anxiety wave that breaks a little at the end of April. Then a windows opened and my face nerves got a relief, but anx. was still there. Then a severe and brutal anx. wave knocked the door and this uninvited visitor has hit me until now. Fortunately i have got a relief from nerve pressure on my face for the last few days, but the anxiety has been there again and it hit me yesterday. I know i wont die because of this sleep interruption and anxiety, i will sleep but this process is so hard. Like many problem i left in this process(palps, nausea etc.) it will complete its' course, but this acute similar disturbances breaks my patience a little. I hope i have involved in a process in which the things i name it as a wave will get shorter durations and windows will get longer.

My live example is like that 1.5 month wave, 10 day windows, 3 week wave then 5 day semi window, i dont know the rest. This formation make a progress like that?

 

Thank you

[juneight]

Could someone explain to me why my sxs are so persistent to last at least 1 month?

Palps come and stay there 1,1.5 months

Nerve problems come and stay there 3&4 months

Chest&throat tightness stay 1,1.5 months

Anxiety is always there:(

I want to see the wave window pattern and to be stable, i dont do anything wrong,but i cant see exact pattern. One 7&8 day window two months ago, 2&3 day reliefs, apart from those i have suffered and as i said they are so persistent..

[juneight]

I would like to give you good news, but i live the times when distraction is too hard. Yes, I really cant distract. I dont understand the fact that why i dont feel better the more i am far away from discontinue. Most people here at least feel better or see some improvements after 1 year, on the contrary i was better in last September than i am now. I think remeron impaired my healing process. I dont want to believe the idea that i am doomed, but things are too hard. Endless movements in my face are saying that this ll last a long time. I can hardly do my job sometimes, i dont want to take away my family outside in spite of good weather. After June 1, my suffering has come to a level in which i only think about the drug,tapering etc. I havent had a classical wave window pattern, i mostly suffered anxiety, so i dont know the thing that i live whether it is a wave or any other thing. Feels mostly as if i am going crazy. I am trying to do make other hour, other day, but other day is not better than previous one. The only thing i can do is holding the dose stable for sometime, but it is already frustrating.This is Fathers day, but i cant give attention to my children enough. What should i do?

 

[DaBro]

Juneight hang in there. I quit Zoloft FT in November 2018. I can say 2020 has been worse than 2019. I also have facial twitching and lots of clicking and zaps in my head. My theory is exactly the same as you that the AD prevented healing and now I am healing. My waves are long and hard but my windows are much better every time. Also my symptoms change each wave which makes me think my neural network is healing a bit at a time. My family are noticing my improvement even if I don’t feel it. As Winston Churchill said: If you find yourself in Hell, keep going. We will all get there even if we don’t deserve to be here. 

[juneight]

@DaBro so you are saying healin isnt possible while on meds? I am still on.

[Gridley]

7 minutes ago, juneight said:

@DaBro so you are saying healin isnt possible while on meds? I am still on.

 

Healing happens while you are still on the drugs.  As you taper and reduce your drug burden, your system is reclaiming control from the drugs and returning to its natural, undreugged state.

[juneight]

@Sassenachhi Sass. I have been complaining anxiety all the times since i quit 3 drugs after 15 days. I have always been asking myself that is it a wave after going into trouble. But, i know now i am living a hard wave. You can say how do you know it, but i can reply my anxiety is too much to think giving a break to my job. I can hardly handle it sometimes. Panicky conditions while doing my job or while watching TV have started yet, they havent been there. I am amazed and shocked about the affects of quit of 15 days. It has been 14 months since stopping drugs and it has been 12 months restarting one of them. As you know i had holded my dose for a straight 5 months until February and then i started to push it. Except for a one week window at the end of March and three days relief, i have suffered anxiety since February although i have pushed it in tiny amounts. Now, i know i cant push it in these conditions. I have been getting disturbing anx. since Jan 1 and intense anxiety for 3 weeks. I am now holding until this stops. I am also trying Vitamin C 1000 mg. It doesn't block the anxiety completely even, as if it reduces enough to go on social life, work etc. I dont wanna to rush it, but i feel crappy like that. I believe i dont have a permanent damage in spite of my ongoing medication. If the things were so, i wouldnt have this window(3 months ago and then one relief) and there would some other persistent sxs apart from anxiety. I want to be stable by the way of anxiety.

One more thing. I need some support because i am experiencing "a real wave" first time. Before that it was tolerable but now it blocks my life, so could you adress a thread or a place to write in this site?

Thanks for reading..

[Longroadhome]

@juneight

sassenach Is no longer On this site. 
contact the following 

Altostrata . Gridley or Shep 
they will be in touch 

take care you will recover 

[ChessieCat]

juneight posted this in another member's introduction topic.  I'm quoting it here for member's benefit:

 

  

3 minutes ago, juneight said:

hi Ripley. my main problem is by far still anxiety. it is hellish somedays in this term. so i cant even think starting tapering.i think it is a true behaviour, but i also feel despodent and how to tackle this process. thankfully, i dont tremble but sometimes i want to scream. do you think holding is conscious in spite of one but big sx(anx.)

 

@CheshireCat i should be functional due to worklife. so i cant push it, but i am very very frustrated. continuous questions on bad days upon worsening or tapering. if i can tackle this hard anxiety wave, i am sure i can tackle any. i dont understand one can suffer straight 14 months after some short term drugs. It has been 14 months and it has been 12 months since starting remeron.There is no persistent issues apart from anxiety.It should settle down now.I havent made dramatic changes for 9 months and holded 5 months at the start. Have you lived such kind of big anxiety term and have you pushed it in spite of only one sx?

 

x

 

[Frogie]

In your signature you have 6/6 9.3 mg. Are you tapering? As you stated you were holding?

 

Anxiety is the pits. I have anxiety and I do CBT. Have you tried that? Have you tried coping skills? 

 This might help.

 

Just know that you will heal and it will get better.

 

Hang in there😊

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

[juneight]

No Frogie, i cant taper, i am just holding. Because, this one is too much. I could somehow push this journey until today. It was full of suffering just anxiety, but not like that it has been last two, especially last one month. Because, a panic wave comes and i want to scream for example while eating in food court at work. I dont know what to do. I tried all relaxation techniques and it seems it worked until a level in which i feel safe. But, this one is so different. I am trying breathing guided voices or guided meditations from youtube. Yes, you are right CBT may be useful but the psychologists or docs dont have the information about tapering. I tried a CBT session with my ex-psychologist after getting involved in this journey and he said that you must be seen by a psychiatrist who is well eduacted in thhis/her area. Then, i went the one he suggested and she listened to me, then said that you must get some ECT sessions. The system works like that in my country, so i dont visit them anymore to prevent money,time and morale extravagancy.

The only thing i can do is visiting SA, BB and some face groups and taking some support. Thankfully, VIT C tablets cut my anixety a little and i can live some tolerable days, but today and some days i am visiting the pits of hell. I have suffered too much and said myself "you are on a wave", but i am now living a really terrible wave. Moreover, i am thinking obsessively how to finish this journey living such problems. Everybody is giving some support and saying "you are doing right things" but some times later i find myself at rush and my morale gets so low. I have made too many mistakes in the past, especially in the near past. So, i am trying to search my medication, trying to regulate my eating to my medication, not to do rush my taper, but the result is great suffering. I hope this one is the last struggle of my mistakes in the past and stabilization comes in the shortest.

[Frogie]

So, in your signature you have 2020,  6/6 9.3 mg, that was last year, as you have it listed 2020? I'm just asking so I can figure out what might be going on. Did this anxiety ramp up after you tapered or before?

 

I know Gridley finds putting your legs up a wall helpful to him for relieving anxiety. Maybe you could try that?

 

You can google CBT online and find some sources that will help without paying for it. It does help to have a "toolbox" that you can use. It helps me.

 

I have a lot of anxiety because of my taper at the moment. And I do know how you feel, wanting to scream. I have that type of anxiety also. And I tend to cry. But I have learned that this is only temporary and it will go away. So I read a lot of stories on here, as you. That helps also. This is a great support system. I have been on BB a couple of times lurking around and I found it too stimulating for me and it caused a lot of anxiety. However, if it makes you comfortable, then read stories on there. There are a lot of facebook groups also. I know you said you are on groups. I hope those help.

 

I have found that magnesium and Omega (fish oil) does help. It doesn't get rid of it but does help. Could you try a little of that perhaps? But only do one at a time and in small amounts, then wait a few day to make sure you don't have a reaction to either. I found that Vitamin C was activating to me, but if it works for you that's great. Also, spray magnesium (you can get it on Amazon) helps. You spray it on your legs or arms and it does relieve the anxiety some.

 

As you mentioned, you could be in a wave. While they are no fun at all, just know they will go away. It is an very unpleasant journey sometimes, just tell yourself that this will end and I will heal. I always tell myself, look how far I've gotten, not how far I have to go. That helps me immensely.

 

I know it's rough, and this is no fun. But you have a wonderful support system.

 

Please keep me posted on how you are doing. 

 

Take a deep breath, you are going to be ok. 

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Edited July 22, 2020 by Frogie

[juneight]

2 hours ago, Frogie said:

So, in your signature you have 2020,  6/6 9.3 mg, that was last year, as you have it listed 2020? I'm just asking so I can figure out what might be going on. Did this anxiety ramp up after you tapered or before?

Yes, i started to push it this year. Because anxiety has never gone and i was so impatient. So buddies said that i should push in small steps, so i did. I can clearly say that tapering hasnt ramped up me.Where do i know? Because there was no nausea, no restless legs, no etc. Just anxiety. So to me, i am still not out of the woods from past medication. Last cut was at the 6th of this June.

2 hours ago, Frogie said:

I know Gridley finds putting your legs up a wall helpful to him for relieving anxiety. Maybe you could try that?

Yes i am doing at home, but not possible at work.

2 hours ago, Frogie said:

 

You can google CBT online and find some sources that will help without paying for it. It does help to have a "toolbox" that you can use. It helps me.

I ll search.

2 hours ago, Frogie said:

 

I have a lot of anxiety because of my taper at the moment. And I do know how you feel, wanting to scream. I have that type of anxiety also. And I tend to cry. But I have learned that this is only temporary and it will go away. So I read a lot of stories on here, as you. That helps also. This is a great support system. I have been on BB a couple of times lurking around and I found it too stimulating for me and it caused a lot of anxiety. However, if it makes you comfortable, then read stories on there. There are a lot of facebook groups also. I know you said you are on groups. I hope those help.

 

I have found that magnesium and Omega (fish oil) does help. It doesn't get rid of it but does help. Could you try a little of that perhaps? But only do one at a time and in small amounts, then wait a few day to make sure you don't have a reaction to either. I found that Vitamin C was activating to me, but if it works for you that's great. Also, spray magnesium (you can get it on Amazon) helps. You spray it on your legs or arms and it does relieve the anxiety some.

I tried mag glycinate form, it did nothing, useful or harmful. Tried Omega 3, but suspected from rashes due to Omega 3 terms, so i stopped. Remeron makes one brain so sensitive about histamin issues.

2 hours ago, Frogie said:

 

As you mentioned, you could be in a wave. While they are no fun at all, just know they will go away. It is an very unpleasant journey sometimes, just tell yourself that this will end and I will heal. I always tell myself, look how far I've gotten, not how far I have to go. That helps me immensely.

Yes i am absolutely in a wave. But the more i say this is a wave, the stronger it has come. I am tired to say this is a wave, be calm. But continue to say that.

 

2 hours ago, Frogie said:

I know it's rough, and this is no fun. But you have a wonderful support system.

 

Please keep me posted on how you are doing. 

 

Take a deep breath, you are going to be ok. 

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

The most frustrating side of my condition is that most people feel healing after some months. I have read too many story even tragedic ones. They say they feel some relief and their general condition get well after 9 months, 1 year etc. I have just used 15 days 3 drugs and my general condition has deteriorated after 6 months. I am now 14 month out. I still dont feel relief. Although i made my brain unbalanced last year, this year has been a real challange. I must have felt some relief upon anxiety by now, but it has been more severe by time. Even most benzo users dont report steady anxiety after some time.I think remeron blocked my healing process and i am here with suffering. Only one good thing i can say i have 1 week window at the end of this March and some 2 or 3 day reliefs after that. Please keep me posted when i write and want some support. When i am out of this wave, i will be doing steady and slow process. Just so this wave finish...

[ChessieCat]

This is an excellent site.  Scroll down to see the self help resource links:

 

https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/selfhelp.htm

[Frogie]

If it was me, I would stop tapering for now.  But that’s just my opinion. 
 

I know it’s hard to hear that you’re going to get better and you’ll get through this over and over. But you have to tell yourself that this will pass and you will get better. I tell myself this time and time again.

 

Apace41 (a mod on here) suggested spray magnesium to me. I bought it from Amazon. It helps to spray on my legs and arms. You could try that.

 

Chessiecat gave you a really good website to reference, you might look at that.

 

Hope you’re doing a little better.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

Edited July 23, 2020 by Frogie

[juneight]

Hi all of you. I would like to say that i am better a little by the way of anxiety. It has been so debilitiating for last month. I am really experiencing a hard wave. I have tried to stop cortisol/anger rushes with a combo of Vit C and NF niacin 3x daily upon a suggestion from BB, but it hasnt worked. So i stopped it and am just taking Vit C occasionally.

 

My only steady and persistent sx since last year mess has been anxiety. Thankfully, only anxiety. I am curious about the fact that it is worthy to push taper in spite of only one but big sx? Of course there are some others, but not worthy to talk about those.

 

PS: I have never tapered bigger than 5 %...

[ChessieCat]

Q:  How is your sleep?

[juneight]

It has never been a problem for me thankfully.1 or 2 times. Sometimes my awful anx. makes it harder to sleep, but with self talks i overcome it and sleep for straight 7 or 8 hours. But of course wake up with cortisol rushes. I am thinking to push again as soon as this wave finishes. I need to decrease occupancy of mirt in my transmitters until i find 3 or 4 mgs. If i found a way to stop deb. anx., i would push it and i would probably be at 5 or 6 mgs. This is just my opinion. Have you pushed it when there is a one but big sx?

[ChessieCat]

That's good that your sleep is okay.

 

Q:  Do you take, or have you tried, Magnesium?

 

I find it helpful for anxiety.  There have been several times that I have run out of it and noticed an increase in anxiety and when I have started taking it again I have noticed a reduction.

[juneight]

Here in my country,(Turkey), the options are very limited. I tried mag glycinate form but it hasnt worked, then i tried Mag citrate and malate form and they havent either. So i dont think Mag is a valuable option to get benefit. In spite of this condition if you have a suggestion please do it.

 

When i started the Niacin and Vitc combo, i took two great days and then the story started again. lol. So stopped. But, if i take Vitc before bed or after bed, i think my cortisol levels are lower comparably. I think i still have a way to go last year's mess. Thankfully this mess only gave me anxiety. I tried Tulsi, but it didnt work.

 

So you are saying if i can tackle this anxiety somehow, i can push it in spite of anxiety. But, i cant tackle:(

[ChessieCat]

Q:  Were you getting anxiety before you started tapering (before July last year?)  If no, when did the anxiety start?

 

Q:  Are you taking, or have you taken, any other drugs, supplements, antibiotics, missed any doses, been sick this year?

 

[juneight]

Hi Chessie again.No, nothing near this chemical anxiety. I have never had this cortisol rushes in my life. It started with my Abilify discontinue, but i hadnt showed patince this anxiety, it was difficult, but manageable. It has been 1 year, but there has been no cortisol rushes for a long term like this last month. They were just for one or two day. I had adrenal rushes for 1 or more months, but even it was more manageable. Because there were no anger while living adrenal issues. I hope you think that this cortisol rush is a term and it will complete its course.

 

I had tried many supps. Mag, Tulsi, Chamomile etc. But they were all for short term. Because they didnt work. I recently tried Vit C and NF niacin combo. But they havent worked either. Now i am taking Vit C occasionally. Thankfully, i had no remarkable sx apart from anx., because my cuts were so tiny. I had not missed any dose, i am very disciplined with tapering mirt. Thanks.x